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Xiaomi (MIUI) vs Oneplus (Oxygen OS)

Noob here. Please bear with me.
I have used MIUI on my Mi 4 and liked it. Now I am willing to buy the OnePlus 3, but am concerned by the "official" support. I mean currently OP 3 has quite a few software bugs like Doze problem, Pocket problem, DND issue, Microphone issue etc. Will these be solved or just left as it is ? I want my phone to be stable and secure and that is why I do not want to root my phone. In MIUI, issues used to be solved, at least, in the MIUI forums the moderators used to provide updates on bugs, on which update it was going to be solved. It was reassuring to hear bugs being removed in the beta versions of the ROM etc. I find zero official presence in the OnePlus forum. Like we are users just screaming off and no one is paying any heed. So, my question to previous OnePlus users. Do you feel these issues are going to be solved by official updates ? What are your experience regarding this. I like that phone quite a bit, much more than Mi 5. If the support is really bad I may wait for Mi Note 2 then.
Another question. Do you feel that custom ROMs are stable and secure enough to use as daily drivers without reflashing another one every 3 months. I am considering Paranoid Android and Cyanogenmod, but I do not have past experience. Do these ROMs get the latest security updates, do they get OTA or flashable zip or do I have to reflash the full ROM on every update ans lose data ?
P.S. I dont really hate MIUI nor do I hate stock Android. Please do not make it a hate thread. I just want a hassle free experience in the long run. I do all the tinkering at the beginning and then it just works.
Thanks for your help.

Miui is much better than oxygen
MIUI is better that Oxygen for sure.
With security app it is the best when on 4g Volte or 3G, restricting internet access to limited access to internet.

m.abhirup said:
Noob here. Please bear with me.
I have used MIUI on my Mi 4 and liked it. Now I am willing to buy the OnePlus 3, but am concerned by the "official" support. I mean currently OP 3 has quite a few software bugs like Doze problem, Pocket problem, DND issue, Microphone issue etc. Will these be solved or just left as it is ? I want my phone to be stable and secure and that is why I do not want to root my phone. In MIUI, issues used to be solved, at least, in the MIUI forums the moderators used to provide updates on bugs, on which update it was going to be solved. It was reassuring to hear bugs being removed in the beta versions of the ROM etc. I find zero official presence in the OnePlus forum. Like we are users just screaming off and no one is paying any heed. So, my question to previous OnePlus users. Do you feel these issues are going to be solved by official updates ? What are your experience regarding this. I like that phone quite a bit, much more than Mi 5. If the support is really bad I may wait for Mi Note 2 then.
Another question. Do you feel that custom ROMs are stable and secure enough to use as daily drivers without reflashing another one every 3 months. I am considering Paranoid Android and Cyanogenmod, but I do not have past experience. Do these ROMs get the latest security updates, do they get OTA or flashable zip or do I have to reflash the full ROM on every update ans lose data ?
P.S. I dont really hate MIUI nor do I hate stock Android. Please do not make it a hate thread. I just want a hassle free experience in the long run. I do all the tinkering at the beginning and then it just works.
Thanks for your help.
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customer service of both of companies is not great. xiaomi doest upgrade android on most of its phone and just updates their own skin.
dev support on oneplus is way better than xiaomi. and yes custom roms are pretty stable to be used as daily driver. if you want a phone to just use normally without rooting and custom roms, xiaomi is a decent option but if you want to try various roms go for onplus 3.

MIUI Pro Custom ROM

I was wondering if anyone has experience using the above custom ROM? The homepage is in Russian and I haven't been able to find out much more about it other than the fact that some people really seem to like it.
If anybody is running the ROM I would be interested in opinions. Is it worth flashing instead of using stock MIUI? Any problems using it in English or compatibility issues with US phone service?
I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet but have permission. I'm trying to figure out if there is a custom ROM worth flashing that offers some advantages over stock. My original plan was to flash LOS but some people seem to be experiencing bugs.
Any info on MIUI PRO (or even a different recommendation) would be appreciated.
I can't complain about performance on stock which is blazing fast but I do miss Google Smart Lock.

jhs39 said:
I was wondering if anyone has experience using the above custom ROM? The homepage is in Russian and I haven't been able to find out much more about it other than the fact that some people really seem to like it.
If anybody is running the ROM I would be interested in opinions. Is it worth flashing instead of using stock MIUI? Any problems using it in English or compatibility issues with US phone service?
I haven't unlocked my bootloader yet but have permission. I'm trying to figure out if there is a custom ROM worth flashing that offers some advantages over stock. My original plan was to flash LOS but some people seem to be experiencing bugs.
Any info on MIUI PRO (or even a different recommendation) would be appreciated.
I can't complain about performance on stock which is blazing fast but I do miss Google Smart Lock.
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Would actually also appreciate any information on this ROM. I have used LineageOS, MIUI Stable, Developer, Nightly Beta, EpicRom, RR but not this one solely because the site is Russian as you stated. Would love a bit more info...Figured I'd reply to this in hope to revive it.
As for LineageOS, you might as well try it out now. The third release (most recent one) has had a LOT of fixes and optimizations done to it.

I've been using it for more than one Xiaomi phone and I think it's a great rom. Very fast, smooth, without lag and with an excellent battery life. It also has a face unlock and other settings that you can't find in other roms...I try Epic Rom,Xiaomi Eu,Lineage...
I don't know about US phone service because I'm from Europe...not from Russia but I use Miui Pro without problems or fear also if they are from Russia
Try it:good:

3o3ulka76 said:
I've been using it for more than one Xiaomi phone and I think it's a great rom. Very fast, smooth, without lag and with an excellent battery life. It also has a face unlock and other settings that you can't find in other roms...I try Epic Rom,Xiaomi Eu,Lineage...
I don't know about US phone service because I'm from Europe...not from Russia but I use Miui Pro without problems or fear also if they are from Russia
Try it:good:
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Thanks! I shall look into it. What kind of modifications/differences are there compared to the stock MIUI?

For example you can encrease at 6 number of toggles... double tap where do you want to wake up or turn off the screen...choose the colour the battery when is 100% or 80%...etc

MIUI Pro has had very bad battery backup for me
I switched to Mi-Globe ROM

Kaji said:
Would actually also appreciate any information on this ROM. I have used LineageOS, MIUI Stable, Developer, Nightly Beta, EpicRom, RR but not this one solely because the site is Russian as you stated. Would love a bit more info...Figured I'd reply to this in hope to revive it.
As for LineageOS, you might as well try it out now. The third release (most recent one) has had a LOT of fixes and optimizations done to it.
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I tried LOS. I was excited at first to have stock Android back but then I experienced issues with poor call quality and my mobile data reception became erratic so I ended up going back to MIUI Global with the MI Flash tool and not paying close enough attention allowed it to lock my bootloader again.
My skepticism about MIUI PRO goes beyond the Russian website. There is no information about the ROM in English anywhere I could find. The only review on YouTube is in Hindi. None of the Xiaomi threads on XDA, Google+ or Reddit has information about the ROM. I know Xiaomi phones are primarily sold in China and India but that doesn't really explain why there seems to be no information anywhere about the ROM.
But the fact that the ROM is based in Russia does seriously concern me. I had an issue with Kaspersky Anti-virus (which used to be first rate) not flagging Russian malware on my computer. And that happened a full year before Russian hackers helped Trump become president. Using a Russian operating system on a phone just doesn't seem like the smartest idea.
If you try MIUI Pro post what you think of it.

jhs39 said:
I tried LOS. I was excited at first to have stock Android back but then I experienced issues with poor call quality and my mobile data reception became erratic so I ended up going back to MIUI Global with the MI Flash tool and not paying close enough attention allowed it to lock my bootloader again.
My skepticism about MIUI PRO goes beyond the Russian website. There is no information about the ROM in English anywhere I could find. The only review on YouTube is in Hindi. None of the Xiaomi threads on XDA, Google+ or Reddit has information about the ROM. I know Xiaomi phones are primarily sold in China and India but that doesn't really explain why there seems to be no information anywhere about the ROM.
But the fact that the ROM is based in Russia does seriously concern me. I had an issue with Kaspersky Anti-virus (which used to be first rate) not flagging Russian malware on my computer. And that happened a full year before Russian hackers helped Trump become president. Using a Russian operating system on a phone just doesn't seem like the smartest idea.
If you try MIUI Pro post what you think of it.
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Well said my friend, and kudos for using the flash tool....just feels so much more..genuine. Can't say I haven't accidentally locked my bootloader too but that's how we learn.
I found the LOS to be, well, an absolute stock experience. But like you and I'm sure many others, it just isn't at the point where it should be used as a daily driver. I'm currently running the 11th of May beta but honestly has more bugs than LOS at this stage so will be reverting back to the latest official developer ROM from the MIUI site (fastboot ver of course).
Gave this MIUIPro some extra thought and seeing as though it sounds very limited in extras (you can mod the number of toggles in the quick settings with packages already available on XDA if you wished to do so) I'll stick with builds straight from Xiaomi.
Sorry for the let down

Kaji said:
Well said my friend, and kudos for using the flash tool....just feels so much more..genuine. Can't say I haven't accidentally locked my bootloader too but that's how we learn.
I found the LOS to be, well, an absolute stock experience. But like you and I'm sure many others, it just isn't at the point where it should be used as a daily driver. I'm currently running the 11th of May beta but honestly has more bugs than LOS at this stage so will be reverting back to the latest official developer ROM from the MIUI site (fastboot ver of course).
Gave this MIUIPro some extra thought and seeing as though it sounds very limited in extras (you can mod the number of toggles in the quick settings with packages already available on XDA if you wished to do so) I'll stick with builds straight from Xiaomi.
Sorry for the let down
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I was thinking about trying the MIUI Developer ROM. Is it stable enough to use as a daily driver? I looked at posts about the beta but that seemed to be to buggy for me. I value stability since I'm using the Mi Mix 2 as my main phone. That wasn't my original plan but the signal reception is so superior to my Essential PH-1 I couldn't justify using it daily instead even though there are many things that I prefer about that phone.
Maybe LOS for this phone will get better eventually but that was what I kept telling myself when I had an OP5. I hated the stock OS but after trying every custom ROM that existed I found only 1 Nougat ROM (Viper) and 1 Oreo ROM (Phoenix) that I considered good enough to use as a daily driver. I'm not a programmer but I think the quality of custom ROMs has gone down the toilet because they are almost always being made now by people who don't use the phone as their daily driver. The only non-OOS ROM made by a developer who actually used the OP5 daily was Phoenix and you could tell the difference the developer actually using the phone made.
Cyanogenmod was the first custom ROM I ever used that always had bugs, probably because they were trying to be compatible with as many phones as possible. My experience with LOS on 2 previous phones has been exactly the same. I love that they are trying to bring stock Android to phones that don't have it but I wish they were doing a better job.

jhs39 said:
I was thinking about trying the MIUI Developer ROM. Is it stable enough to use as a daily driver? I looked at posts about the beta but that seemed to be to buggy for me. I value stability since I'm using the Mi Mix 2 as my main phone. That wasn't my original plan but the signal reception is so superior to my Essential PH-1 I couldn't justify using it daily instead even though there are many things that I prefer about that phone.
Maybe LOS for this phone will get better eventually but that was what I kept telling myself when I had an OP5. I hated the stock OS but after trying every custom ROM that existed I found only 1 Nougat ROM (Viper) and 1 Oreo ROM (Phoenix) that I considered good enough to use as a daily driver. I'm not a programmer but I think the quality of custom ROMs has gone down the toilet because they are almost always being made now by people who don't use the phone as their daily driver. The only non-OOS ROM made by a developer who actually used the OP5 daily was Phoenix and you could tell the difference the developer actually using the phone made.
Cyanogenmod was the first custom ROM I ever used that always had bugs, probably because they were trying to be compatible with as many phones as possible. My experience with LOS on 2 previous phones has been exactly the same. I love that they are trying to bring stock Android to phones that don't have it but I wish they were doing a better job.
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Hey man. I had been using Developer builds up until now and I can tell you they are easily stable enough for daily use. I cannot confirm this is 100% correct but I'm fairly sure Developer ROMs are just the in-between ROMs where all the minor adjustments happen. The change logs have all included things like "Improved system stability", "removed unnecessary files for [insert app here]" etc. So you never know, they could actually be more stable than any of the "Stable" releases you've used so far, you'll have to be the judge of that. I don't travel much, nor do I require any very advanced function of Android at this stage so for sure there could be something I've missed but I have never had a force shut-down, lack of signal, graphical bug or force-close of app with any of the developer builds.
I never owned a OP5 but I did have a OP3 and OP3t which I used FreedomOS on both but eventually came around to LineageOS only because they all seemed about as optimized as eachother. I'm all for custom MIUI ROMs if they are going to actually improve on something but at this stage all they do is debloat which can be done by anyone and add a few features which actually make the system less stable and battery hungry. My plan is to try the occasional Beta to see what new features Xiaomi is bringing to the table, stick with the latest developer the rest of the time, and when they finally make a stable I'm happy with then stick with that until the next wave of software upgrades is due.
How is the Essential by the way? Apart from the signal. Never met anyone who owned one.

Kaji said:
Hey man. I had been using Developer builds up until now and I can tell you they are easily stable enough for daily use. I cannot confirm this is 100% correct but I'm fairly sure Developer ROMs are just the in-between ROMs where all the minor adjustments happen. The change logs have all included things like "Improved system stability", "removed unnecessary files for [insert app here]" etc. So you never know, they could actually be more stable than any of the "Stable" releases you've used so far, you'll have to be the judge of that. I don't travel much, nor do I require any very advanced function of Android at this stage so for sure there could be something I've missed but I have never had a force shut-down, lack of signal, graphical bug or force-close of app with any of the developer builds.
I never owned a OP5 but I did have a OP3 and OP3t which I used FreedomOS on both but eventually came around to LineageOS only because they all seemed about as optimized as eachother. I'm all for custom MIUI ROMs if they are going to actually improve on something but at this stage all they do is debloat which can be done by anyone and add a few features which actually make the system less stable and battery hungry. My plan is to try the occasional Beta to see what new features Xiaomi is bringing to the table, stick with the latest developer the rest of the time, and when they finally make a stable I'm happy with then stick with that until the next wave of software upgrades is due.
How is the Essential by the way? Apart from the signal. Never met anyone who owned one.
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It's a nice looking phone. Great build quality and excellent QHD screen. It's smaller than other phones I've owned over the past 5 years bit doesn't feel like a small screen phone because of the high screen to body ratio. It's much more comfortable to handle than the Mi Mix 2 although I'm getting used to this one. It's not as smooth or snappy as the Mix 2. But the weak signal reception is a big problem. I used it on T-Mobile (erratic signal), AT&T (poor signal), Sprint (poor signal) and Verizon (very good signal). Unfortunately Verizon's MVNO (Straight Talk) is way more expensive than the ones available for T-Mobile so it made more sense to use a different phone than pay a higher cell service bill every month just so I could keep using the Essential. I should have returned it for a refund but fell in love with it which was why I tried every network. I'm just using it as a backup with very cheap T-Mobile. The signal at home is crap but since WiFi calling works it doesn't matter.
Maybe I'll try the dev ROM then. Thanks for the info.

Kaji said:
Hey man. I had been using Developer builds up until now and I can tell you they are easily stable enough for daily use. I cannot confirm this is 100% correct but I'm fairly sure Developer ROMs are just the in-between ROMs where all the minor adjustments happen. The change logs have all included things like "Improved system stability", "removed unnecessary files for [insert app here]" etc. So you never know, they could actually be more stable than any of the "Stable" releases you've used so far, you'll have to be the judge of that. I don't travel much, nor do I require any very advanced function of Android at this stage so for sure there could be something I've missed but I have never had a force shut-down, lack of signal, graphical bug or force-close of app with any of the developer builds.
I never owned a OP5 but I did have a OP3 and OP3t which I used FreedomOS on both but eventually came around to LineageOS only because they all seemed about as optimized as eachother. I'm all for custom MIUI ROMs if they are going to actually improve on something but at this stage all they do is debloat which can be done by anyone and add a few features which actually make the system less stable and battery hungry. My plan is to try the occasional Beta to see what new features Xiaomi is bringing to the table, stick with the latest developer the rest of the time, and when they finally make a stable I'm happy with then stick with that until the next wave of software upgrades is due.
How is the Essential by the way? Apart from the signal. Never met anyone who owned one.
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Programming on OnePlus phones has gotten way worse since the OP3/3T days. Oxygen was programmed by a team in Europe back then. But to save money OnePlus fired the European programmers and transferred the ROM to the Hydrogen team in China. That's when the coding started to go completely to hell.
Software engineers in China and India analyzed the OnePlus version of Oreo and reported that a lot of the code was actually Nougat. They also said the coding overall was very sloppy and unprofessional.
If you follow software devs on their Telegram channels (outside of XDA) it doesn't take long to discover that the poor programming on OnePlus phones is a running joke with many of them.
Running a custom ROM doesn't completely fix the problem either because the custom ROMs still need to use OnePlus firmware which is a mess.
OnePlus phones are so poorly programmed there is no way to use TWRP safely unless you decrypt the data on your phone and keep it permanently decrypted.

jhs39 said:
Programming on OnePlus phones has gotten way worse since the OP3/3T days. Oxygen was programmed by a team in Europe back then. But to save money OnePlus fired the European programmers and transferred the ROM to the Hydrogen team in China. That's when the coding started to go completely to hell.
Software engineers in China and India analyzed the OnePlus version of Oreo and reported that a lot of the code was actually Nougat. They also said the coding overall was very sloppy and unprofessional.
If you follow software devs on their Telegram channels (outside of XDA) it doesn't take long to discover that the poor programming on OnePlus phones is a running joke with many of them.
Running a custom ROM doesn't completely fix the problem either because the custom ROMs still need to use OnePlus firmware which is a mess.
OnePlus phones are so poorly programmed there is no way to use TWRP safely unless you decrypt the data on your phone and keep it permanently decrypted.
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You make me really appreciate the fact I chose my Mi Mix 2 over the OnePlus 5t. Coming from the OnePlus 3T it was a difficult decision but I'm glad I made the switch.
Honestly this is the first I've heard of this but that's so bad, they are becoming one of the most popular high end smartphone manufacturers and they struggle to make solid, secure advancements in their software which can potentially lead to massive breaches of privacy via exploits.
Actually I remember not too long ago, wasn't there a big issue where users could access root from within the hidden developer settings of the OS? Without even an unlocked bootloader.
Gotta love that this is an entirely different topic from what this thread was made for.

Kaji said:
You make me really appreciate the fact I chose my Mi Mix 2 over the OnePlus 5t. Coming from the OnePlus 3T it was a difficult decision but I'm glad I made the switch.
Honestly this is the first I've heard of this but that's so bad, they are becoming one of the most popular high end smartphone manufacturers and they struggle to make solid, secure advancements in their software which can potentially lead to massive breaches of privacy via exploits.
Actually I remember not too long ago, wasn't there a big issue where users could access root from within the hidden developer settings of the OS? Without even an unlocked bootloader.
Gotta love that this is an entirely different topic from what this thread was made for.
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For whatever reason tech sites in the United States allow themselves to be shills for OnePlus. Reviews for the latest OnePlus device frequently sound more like shameless promotion than honest analysis because they often are. OnePlus solicits reviews in exchange for free phones and places the reviews on accommodating tech sites. I received an invitation to apply for a free OnePlus 6 phone and help to influence tech buyers. To apply OnePlus wanted a full length sample review of a tech product I already owned. The people who submit the most professional sounding reviews get the free phones and send their reviews to OnePlus. OnePlus then cherry picks those submissions and publishes the reviews it likes on various tech sites.
Pretty much the only two places you can get accurate information about OnePlus phones is on Telegram and Reddit.
Here's what happened with spyware in the 8 months I had an OP5. Someone discovered that a system process in Oxygen was secretly transmitting a lot of detailed user information to servers in China. This was separate from the User Experience Program that owners could opt out of.
An explanation of how to disable the spyware process was published and when asked to comment OnePlus promised to remove the spyware.
Nothing was done at all until the next scheduled monthly update. It appeared that OnePlus removed the spyware but it was discovered that OnePlus instead changed the name of the spyware process and that it was still transmitting the same user information to servers in China.
OnePlus apologized again but still left the spyware functioning until the next scheduled monthly update.
Shortly after it was discovered that an app in Oxygen allowed anyone with physical access to a OnePlus phone to unlock and root it by connecting it to a computer. OnePlus claimed that it was a Qualcomm test app that had been accidentally left on the phone. There actually was such an app but when Qualcomm examined the app found on OnePlus phones they said it definitely wasn't theirs.
It took OnePlus two months to remove the app from Oxygen.
Then in December a new type of spyware was discovered in an Oxygen beta build for the OP3/3T--a clipboard app that was transmitting contents to a server in China. OnePlus insisted that the clipboard app wasn't spyware but was actually a feature intended for its Chinese customers even though OnePlus sells virtually no phones in China.
Also in mid November OnePlus started to receive reports that customers who used their credit cards to make purchases on the official OnePlus site were seeing unidentified charges on their accounts. OnePlus didn't shut down credit card processing on its website until January. By that time over 40,000 OnePlus customers had their credit card information stolen.
OnePlus is not a good company so the fact that American tech sites continue to shill for them is nauseating.
I'm definitely much happier with my Mix 2 than I was with the OP5. This isn't a perfect phone but it's very good for the cost. The OP5 had crummy build quality and felt like cheap junk.

I tried MIUI Pro for a couple days. I wasn't all that impressed with it. MIUI Pro is less smooth and fluid than the latest official Global Dev Build despite having almost all of the Xiaomi MIUI apps removed.
The default keyboard is from Sony Experia for some reason. The only added feature than I personally found worthwhile was the expanded boot menu.
These are the other differences I noticed:
1) There is a smart network function that allows you to choose a specific type of network connectivity when making or receiving phone calls. You can have the phone switch to a specific network type and also automatically shut off WiFi, data or Bluetooth when on a call.
2) Menu options to change the system font and animations and their speed.
3) Built in charging alarm that would have been way more useful if you could customize the low charge/full charge values.
4) Option to use LTE instead of 4G in status bar as well as more options to disable/enable icons that appear there.
5) Three status bar settings (stock, aosp & IOS) that sound promising but all they did was change the arrangement of the status bar icons.
I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. The Google Play Store comes pre-installed but nothing else--not even the Google app. That makes setting up Google Assistant with voice commands much more of a hassle but it's doable--the menus to make that happen in MIUI Pro aren't intuitive but that's probably because it's based on the China ROM.
It's also more of a hassle to get Google apps working properly in MIUI Pro compared with Official Global because you need to download everything from the Play Store and also manually grant the permissions for each app.
Since there are very few pre-installed apps you do have more free storage but I expected the ROM to be way faster and smoother since it's so stripped down. Performance of the ROM definitely isn't bad but for some reason it's inferior to stock.
Even though I chose English as the install language a couple of notifications came up in Russian. What they said I don't know.
I also don't know if any spyware or malware was written into the OS.
I missed stock after using MIUI Pro for just a few hours but ran it for 2 days anyway to give the ROM a fair chance.
I could see someone running MIUI Pro on a device where there was no official global ROM but it didn't do much for me.

Question Poco F3 one star reviews?

Hi, I am planning to upgrade to Poco F3(Mi 11X) however, while ordering on Amazon(in) I found too many 1 star reviews mostly for heating and touch related issues. Do this model still has serious heating and touch/ other problems. I root all my devices and move to custom rom and will do the same if I get this phone. After reading the reviews, I am confused and need some honest opinions from users owning the device. I am a moderate user ( YouTube, whatsapp, genshin impact , pubg etc.).

The update to fix such issues will soon hit the Indian variant of the Poco F3 (Mi 11x).
However, I don't think they will be able to fully fix any heating issues, this is because the heat of the device is fully defendant on the ambient temperature.
In the case of India, it's hot there. Almost all devices are bound to overheat unless you are in a air conditioned environment at all times when using the device especially for gaming.
If you're just using it for daily apps, you'll should be fine once they push the global fixes to the Indian variant.

Nemix77 said:
The update to fix such issues will soon hit the Indian variant of the Poco F3 (Mi 11x).
However, I don't think they will be able to fully fix any heating issues, this is because the heat of the device is fully defendant on the ambient temperature.
In the case of India, it's hot there. Almost all devices are bound to overheat unless you are in a air conditioned environment at all times when using the device especially for gaming.
If you're just using it for daily apps, you'll should be fine once they push the global fixes to the Indian variant.
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so the Heating , Touch and Dimming will all be eventually fixed with future updates. Do I go ahead and order the phone?

I can't say what you are looking for in a phone, but so far all the issues you mentioned that were given one star reviews on Amazon India have been pretty much fixed globally.
Since the Indian variant was the last one to be released, I fully expect the same fixes to be pushed to the Indian variant in future updates.
As an alterntive since you metioned custom roms, you can just unlock the phone and install Xiaomi.EU rom and not have deal with any of the problems you mentioned above...

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I can't say what you are looking for in a phone, but so far all the issues you mentioned that were given one star reviews on Amazon India have been pretty much fixed globally.
Since the Indian variant was the last one to be released, I fully expect the same fixes to be pushed to the Indian variant in future updates.
As an alterntive since you metioned custom roms, you can just unlock the phone and install Xiaomi.EU rom and not have deal with any of the problems you mentioned above...
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Thanks Nemix, I was really wary of getting this phone after looking at all those reviews, however as most of the issues are software related I am ordering the phone.

hellnoob said:
Thanks Nemix, I was really wary of getting this phone after looking at all those reviews, however as most of the issues are software related I am ordering the phone.
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I have an unboxed piece with brand new nilkin case and nilkin tempered glass. Let me know if interested. Phone has not been used.

After using it for a few weeks I haven't had any screen dimming (global software). In pubg it got warm, but not uncomfortable after some use. I haven't played genshin. The only real issue mine has is the green tint/uneven screen at low brightness. But that's not really bad. it's only visible in a dark room with grey backgrounds.

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After using it for a few weeks I haven't had any screen dimming (global software). In pubg it got warm, but not uncomfortable after some use. I haven't played genshin. The only real issue mine has is the green tint/uneven screen at low brightness. But that's not really bad. it's only visible in a dark room with grey backgrounds.
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Yes, I have seen posts about green tint. Hopefully this too will get fixed with future updates.

MIUI 12.5 Stable Beta released for Mi 11x:
Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com
You probably need to signed up for MIUI beta testing account (I don't know how to do so) or you can just unlock the bootloader and install using Mi Flash? (I don't know much about rom installation on the Indian variant).

the is fine, iuse as my daily driver, not kindo of the "gamer" one, but it work really good on all apps i used
the camera ...well it's good (still under RN10P) but since not photo lover so (for me) i say it's fine.
as for the heat, it will be warm (outdoor) when playing high res gaming, & i encounter some lag on extreme graphic set on some game...
the only problem for me is that gesture navigation doesn't work on 3rd party launcher & i think xiaomy will never fix that problem...

Nemix77 said:
MIUI 12.5 Stable Beta released for Mi 11x:
Xiaomi Firmware Updater
The ultimate script that provides firmware packages for Xiaomi devices.
xiaomifirmwareupdater.com
You probably need to signed up for MIUI beta testing account (I don't know how to do so) or you can just unlock the bootloader and install using Mi Flash? (I don't know much about rom installation on the Indian variant).
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I got this phone and also received 12.5.1 stable update. Didn't get a chance to use it extensively. Unlocked bootloader and waiting for 168 hours.

hellnoob said:
I got this phone and also received 12.5.1 stable update. Didn't get a chance to use it extensively. Unlocked bootloader and waiting for 168 hours.
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This phone is a bomb!
Lets talk frustrated people who spend their bucks for a top High end.

I am a low to moderate user and have upgraded all the way from Redmi 8 to Mi 11X. Din't use the handset for 20 days as I had planned to sell it after finding that it doesn't have Mi dialler and messaging apps. But 15 days later found out that Miui EU ROM has those. Applied for bootloader unlock and installed Miui EU 12.5.2.0 and now updated to 12.5.3.0. Since my basic usage is calls, WhatsApp, Facebook & Twitter via chrome browser and nothing else, I haven't faced any issues as such. I have already 40 third party apps installed like for travelling, banking, food ordering, etc. Haven't faced any issues so far. Don't know about heating as I never user it to the extent.

arcaddiction said:
I have an unboxed piece with brand new nilkin case and nilkin tempered glass. Let me know if interested. Phone has not been used.
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Where do you live and what case is it exactly?

theoalex50 said:
Where do you live and what case is it exactly?
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From India. It's a nilkin frosted shield ultra..

I have already bought the phone. Please close the thread. Thanks.

Question Color OS12

What is everyone's opinion on the new OS we'll be getting on our OP9P?
I bought the OP9P strictly because of OOS and how stock it is. If OOS didn't exist, I wouldve bought a Galaxy s21 Ultra for less than I got the 9 Pro. Is Color OS good?

Is not bad
But will miss oos for sure

FizzyAps said:
Is not bad
But will miss oos for sure
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What do you like better about oos?

Seem faster for one
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They came so far with it for when is was just a them offered on the OnePlus one
I feel it a a over all better ui
Well same could be said about color os

Oxygen Was Very Good ! Now is less & less because of google BS.
I hope Color OS will be free of Google Creap.

Is the current beta usable, or does it have major issues you all would say not to try it? A bit off topic, but just curious... Thanks!

OOS is a knockdown of Color OS. COS 12 looks like OOS 12 since is an open beta and their initial test to merge both OS. COS is bloatware edged though.

benhidalgo said:
OOS is a knockdown of Color OS. COS 12 looks like OOS 12 since is an open beta and their initial test to merge both OS. COS is bloatware edged though.
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This is upsetting. Literally the only reason why I bought one plus.

Hm, I was just submitting order - finally after several Samsung devices now Oneplus 9 Pro.. but I just cancel it, the decision factor I would consider OnePlus was actually OOS.

You can view Color Os 12, Android 12 on youtube.
Is not bad at alll.

null0seven said:
You can view Color Os 12, Android 12 on youtube.
Is not bad at alll.
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It's probably horrible. When are we going to be forced to use color?

shaarky said:
Hm, I was just submitting order - finally after several Samsung devices now Oneplus 9 Pro.. but I just cancel it, the decision factor I would consider OnePlus was actually OOS.
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Why would you bother to do this? They're going to make it look completely like OOS in the next couple of releases completely. Public of colorless is excellent it's just the UI appearance/ menu system that's crap.

After they tunned OOS it will take significant ammount of time to tune also COS.... this is also one of the major reason, I'm not going to be beta tester. And based on the Beta I have seen, it's just terrible. (my point of view, not need to argue with it)

Tried COS12 beta on my OP9Pro last week. Actually as good as advertised on their launching event on YouTube. But flashed back to OOS latest stable, only bcs no global version of COS12 yet (still very Chinese). Once they release global COS12 stable, I'll surely convert my religion to COS & never coming back again to OOS.
I've been quite loyal to OOS since I got my OP5T, tried lots of custom ROMS only to come back again to OOS. But now, not complaining at all that it's coming to an end because COS is really THAT good. I'd say, don't be scared to switch to COS. OP9Pro still got lots to give with COS imo.
Cheers everyone

winnertt said:
Tried COS12 beta on my OP9Pro last week. Actually as good as advertised on their launching event on YouTube. But flashed back to OOS latest stable, only bcs no global version of COS12 yet (still very Chinese). Once they release global COS12 stable, I'll surely convert my religion to COS & never coming back again to OOS.
I've been quite loyal to OOS since I got my OP5T, tried lots of custom ROMS only to come back again to OOS. But now, not complaining at all that it's coming to an end because COS is really THAT good. I'd say, don't be scared to switch to COS. OP9Pro still got lots to give with COS imo.
Cheers everyone
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Sounds like a solid plan! Cheers

Question OnePlus 9 Pro worth buying in August 2022?

Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.

Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
Old users planning to keep few more years leave your feedbacks.
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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.

Hey guys,
Just received a used 9 Pro LE2123 and I got it without any battery juice.
I am using the warp charger that is from this model and I noticed that the charging is super slow.
It came with Android C61 and I let it update to C62, if this plays any role.
Any ideas about what is happening?

Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.

abhijithpyd said:
Download OOS 11 Firmware from Oneplus Website and Flash it using Local Update App and format the device. Then upgrade into newest Version via OTA.
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Why to do this?
The device was factory resetted when I got it.

Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.

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I think it is, especially if you're into custom ROMs and rooting and so forth, as the 10 Pro scene hasn't gotten to that point as of this writing; there's lots of fretting and hand-wringing in the 10 Pro forum about it. I picked up a refurbished one last month from Amazon and am tickled pink with it (I'm keeping my trusty 7 Pro as a backup). In fact, the first thing I did was load my custom-built LineageOS fork (which I had already built in anticipation) onto it, as there was no way I was going to stay on OxygenOS beyond using it to OEM unlock the phone.
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Making Custom ROMs isn't my issue. The problem with 10 pro for me is not be able recover if got hardbricked (which I will do eventually) . We don't have any official stores in our country. And online services isn't really my thing. 10 Pro is 10$+ then 9 pro here. Still want to buy 9 pro over 10 pro cz of MSM mostly.

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Because you've literally no idea what the last user had flashed to it, or had messed around with.
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I guess after unlocking the bootloader and the full erase of data it should be fine.

op9pro could be a good phone for people living on social-media (nowadays the street-price is half of official price)
if you are flashotic or privacy-caring it's better thinking a bifferent device

Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.

AndyC76 said:
Had mine for around 15 months, LE2123 it took a major hit when it went from a11 to a12. I'm completely stock and not modified in anyway. Overall I have been happy with the phone, I know it was expensive near launch but it's managed well so far. I've blocked all advertising by putting all my traffic through pihole and it's been good. Played a few games on boost mode and it's incredibly slick. I've seen in the latest version c62 you can use storage as ram also. Really love the camera, it has t's fault but most settings can be disabled ( like AI etc) and I am tempted to move to gcam.
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what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?

Fahmid Islam Soumya said:
what's your current device & did you sold your 9 pro ?
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Current device is still OnePlus 9Pro 8gb. LE2123 c62. (UK)

Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.

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Finally rooted and cloned all my 146 apps from my previous OP6 phone and everything runs flawlessly.
Battery is great, the phone is super fast and it has a very good and fast camera.
My only concern is that some notifications are not coming up on time, so some apps need further check to fix this issue.
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Don't use Gmail app. I personally use Sugar mail and never missed any emails.

The 9 Pro continues to hold its own! Actually it's still pretty popular!

Personally in the US its one of the few options left available for those who like to really customize their devices. With spectacular battery life on customs (I've had mine about a month and get 8h SOT with some light gaming casually). I mean it doesn't get much better than this! Sure during heavy tasks it can get a little hot but that is slightly improving with OOS12 firmware. It will still reach those peak temps but seemingly not as fast. I got mine from Amazon as well for about $750 USD quite the deal! Using this device has be quite the pleasure. I'm definitely happy on Crdroid with BluSpark kernel. And since OOS has dropped the ball it means that OOS12 based custom roms will get nice custom kernel support which isn't normally there for a long time. Looking forward to the future of this phone!

No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)

davidfarah2003 said:
No, stick with a phone that has good stock firmware. Oos is buggy af and is getting more and more like chinese bloat.
I would suggest a pixel over it (maybe 7?)
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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).

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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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Pixels have lacking support compared to what it used to be with the Nexus line up. There is some interest but it's mostly unofficial support that doesn't last for long and its nothing that you can rely on like with the OnePlus phones

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Except that Pixel phones have a lot of problems of their own, including the firmware, and there's no reason to believe that the 7 series will be any different given Google's recent track record. Pixel vs 9 Pro is just one set of issues versus another at this point. But, if one wants to delve into custom ROMs, both are good in that department (disclaimer: I don't follow the custom ROM scene for Pixel phones so I'm not as familiar with it as I am the OnePlus line).
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The biggest problem that puts people off the Pixels right now is the Samsung SoC and modem. Stupid decision on Google's part.