General Xiaomi 11 Ultra, holycrap, OnePlus why so much fail? - OnePlus 9 Pro

After seeing Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra, I'm floored by how much OnePlus has descended into disappointment with the 9 series. I'm thinking of returning my 9 for Ultra, seen what Xiaomi is offering for the same price of a Pro, is just incredible. Hell I'm questioning why I'm continuing to support OnePlus when I see how much Samsung is valuing the mid-tier and how much Oppo and Xiaomi are stepping up with their flagships. OnePlus seems to being completely lazy and disappointing in both price categories.
IRONICALLY THE Xiomi 11 Ultra photos look more natural color and definitely has more detail.
Wide, OP9 has slightest edge
Telefoto? 11 absolute OP9 destruction, annihilated.
Selfie? Best camera (11 has rear screen to use rear camera) vs the worst selfie camera? I mean really, I think OP9/Pro have the worst front camera among all their competitors.
Night photos? Xiaomi win again
Screen? Seems to be best right now with 1700 nit brightness Dolby VIsion support. The 9 Pro screen is gimmick.
Better materials. Gorilla Glass Victus, Ceramic etc.
So far Xiaomi 11 doesn't overheat taking photos.
OnePlus seems they think they are on easy street and don't have to try any more. Even though Samsung is constantly innovating, OnePlus isn't even doing the minimum right. Man I want the OnePlus from the 3T and 6T series back again.
They clearly can't play with the big boys in the flagship game. Just give it up and do better in the mid tier, cause it seems they are failing there too. Just unnecessarily gimping their mid tier to boost their flagship which really isn't flagship, it's really mid-tier with flagship price. 8 Pro seemed to me the same thing, mid-tier phone with overhyped flagship price.

Totally agree with you. Mi 11 ultra is better option than 9 pro

nickporwal said:
Totally agree with you. Mi 11 ultra is better option than 9 pro
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Definitely disagree here based on reading online, but since I can't hold the phone to confirm, I will never truly know. I think both are great phones though. Not a fan of the Mi 11 OS either.

Been using mi 10 ultra for 6 months (just switched to 9pro few days). I can confirm mi 10 ultra took better photos than onepus 9 pro, so I believed mi 11 ultra can also do a better job. The only reason I don't want to buy mi 11 ultra cause of shape, IT SO ****ING BIG. Hope oneplus may improve after some updates, if not, i'll return to xiaomi
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9 Pro will have better dev support which is a must for the hot chip (SD888). And according to reviews. 9 Pro takes better pictures. 11 Ultra gets hot fast especially in the huge camera bump area then drops brightness forcefully to 50%. China software is bloated, MIUI is catroon-ish and iOS copycat. Secondary display is a useless gimmick. 9 pro takes better pictures from main sensor and ultra wide (imx766) is better that the older imx5xx in the 11 ultra. 11 ultra is only better in telephoto but Samsung S21 Ultra is even better (10X vs 5X) 11 Ultra is just overrated, overhyped and overpriced phone and it's a downgrade from the Mi 10 Ultra (slower charging, worse telephoto and overheating). 9 Pro also has a better and more advanced LPTO panel. Picture quality from the overhyped and oversized Samsung GN2 sensor are disappointing (Samsung are known to oversize things like exynos chips for example). Samsung sensor isn't a match for Sony sensors and bigger sensor doesn't necessarily mean better picture quality. I might get an 11 Ultra if it gets AOSP or lineage os and a good custom kernel but that probably never going to happen.

How many topics will there be about O+ becoming bad Vs Samsung Vs Xiaomi etcetc.
We are on a dedicated subchannel that deals with O+ devices, and especially 9 Pro here.
Isn't it possible to concentrate every posts about this on a dedicated posts where guys can trash on it without creating so many new topic ?? How many of users here already created topic about that subject
I'm just attacking anyone here, but a new O+ user, I'm just fed up with those comparisons. I never would have the idea to go in another brand subtopics and creating a post just to criticize ...

Mi11 ultra is about the numbers. Sounds Good, but in real life... Not so much.
The price is Huge! The phone is heavy. The camera is not the best. 120x zoom is BS.
It does Not charge faster than OnePlus 9 Pro (kind of the best in charging. Wired & wireless).
Mi11 gets hot. The updates are alot slower than Op. You get open beta once a month in Xiaomi? And Stable rom once at two monts.
Other Horrible thing about Xiaomi. One price for China (Good price) and for Europa/America the price Grows Big. I mean Big!
And about how bad is the camera on OnePlus. You can find youtube videos with comparision. I watch one with Op 9pro - S21 Ultra - Iphone 12 max. Op got 8 points, s21 9 points, iphone 9 points. How is that Soo Bad ?!?
The Haselblad partnership just began & is just software for now.
Maybe Op 10 will have Haselblad lens.
Oxygen OS is known to be one of the clean-best Android os.

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Honor 8X near lauching, is it worth to wait?

I want to buy a phone to my mom as her birthday gift at the end of October and my budget is around $250. Today I found a news on Gsmarena that Honor 8X would launch on September 5 in China. The leaked key specs quite touched me, considering the price of Honor X series phone (6X, 7X) was around my budget, I am thinking it may be a choice.
The specs was leaked as follow
- display with an 18.7:9 aspect ratio
- Screen To Body Ratio may up to 90%
- Waterdrop notch
- Kirin 710
- 18W quick charging
- color options are three - Blue, Black, and Red
- 3.5 mm audio jack
My cousin has a Honor 7X and please with it, but I still want to hear some suggestion, It is worth to wait or purchase comparing it to the latest Oppo OnePlus?
It all comes down to the price, if it was me i would buy it for 50-70 buck more than the regular 7x. Well actually only if there is a way to unlock the bootloader otherwise i wouldn't since all those great "specs" could easily mean nothing if im stuck to EMUI configurations.
Edit: Well l guess your mom wouldn't care custom roms and stuff like that anyway haha. If so i would also look into motorolas, they might have slighly worse camera and specs but Ive heard they are very responsive, with a cleaner OS and supported for a longer time (updates wise).
It seems great for the price, but I'm straying far away from Huawei phones now, since they decided to be assholes to the development community.
Honor 8X promo images leaked
leahcoo said:
I want to buy a phone to my mom as her birthday gift at the end of October and my budget is around $250. Today I found a news on Gsmarena that Honor 8X would launch on September 5 in China. The leaked key specs quite touched me, considering the price of Honor X series phone (6X, 7X) was around my budget, I am thinking it may be a choice.
The specs was leaked as follow
- display with an 18.7:9 aspect ratio
- Screen To Body Ratio may up to 90%
- Waterdrop notch
- Kirin 710
- 18W quick charging
- color options are three - Blue, Black, and Red
- 3.5 mm audio jack
My cousin has a Honor 7X and please with it, but I still want to hear some suggestion, It is worth to wait or purchase comparing it to the latest Oppo OnePlus?
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I searched Honor 8X for more information and then saw these promo images leaked. It seems that Honor use all the advanced specs on it, although couldn't be confirmed now.
FRI
leahcoo said:
I want to buy a phone to my mom as her birthday gift at the end of October and my budget is around $250. Today I found a news on Gsmarena that Honor 8X would launch on September 5 in China. The leaked key specs quite touched me, considering the price of Honor X series phone (6X, 7X) was around my budget, I am thinking it may be a choice.
The specs was leaked as follow
- display with an 18.7:9 aspect ratio
- Screen To Body Ratio may up to 90%
- Waterdrop notch
- Kirin 710
- 18W quick charging
- color options are three - Blue, Black, and Red
- 3.5 mm audio jack
My cousin has a Honor 7X and please with it, but I still want to hear some suggestion, It is worth to wait or purchase comparing it to the latest Oppo OnePlus?
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I tried to upload some pictures for you, but failed.
http://https://www.gsmarena.com/honor_8x_max_key_specs_leak_in_promo_images-news-32982.php
You can follow some articles or reviews (there should be a lot of reviews after Sep 5th) and then make the decision
leahcoo said:
I want to buy a phone to my mom as her birthday gift at the end of October and my budget is around $250. Today I found a news on Gsmarena that Honor 8X would launch on September 5 in China. The leaked key specs quite touched me, considering the price of Honor X series phone (6X, 7X) was around my budget, I am thinking it may be a choice.
The specs was leaked as follow
- display with an 18.7:9 aspect ratio
- Screen To Body Ratio may up to 90%
- Waterdrop notch
- Kirin 710
- 18W quick charging
- color options are three - Blue, Black, and Red
- 3.5 mm audio jack
My cousin has a Honor 7X and please with it, but I still want to hear some suggestion, It is worth to wait or purchase comparing it to the latest Oppo OnePlus?
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Huawei has one of the best AI's. Got a chance to check someone p20 lite and the camera is really good with multiple options. I heard that Huawei and Honor shared same technology as Honor is Huawei's subsidiary. I guess Honor would use AI function on this new phone.
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BTW, comparing to Xiaomi A2, Redmi Note 5 and Honor 9 lite at the price around $250, their screen to body ratio are just more than 70% , I quite doubt 8X's will be up to 90%.

Honor 8X Vs. 7X

Honor 8X Vs. 7X
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I got the Honor 7X when it came out in 2017 and was lucky enough to get the 8X after its recent release. While the Honor 8X is a great phone, there has been a bit of price increase since the 7X. There's also the issue with the 8X not even being available in the U.S., and I'm not sure if there are plans to even release this phone here. But putting all that aside, I'll let you know how the phones compare to each other.
Honor 8X
6.5" 1080x2340p
Kirin 710
4/6GB RAM
64/128GB Storage
20+2MP Main Camera
16MP Selfie Camera
3750mAh Battery
Honor 7X
5.93" 1080x2160p
Kirin 659
3/4GB RAM
32/64GB Storage
16+2MP Main Camera
8MP Selfie Camera
3340mAh Battery
Display
The Honor 8X has a really impressive display. The 91% screen-to-body ratio means the phones stays about the same size, but the 8X has a significantly bigger display. As far as quality goes, the phones are on par with each other. But that extra screen space is definitely worth the upgrade. It's also worth mentioning that the 8X has a notched display and a much taller 19.5:9 ratio.
Performance
The 7X wasn't a beast when it came to 3D gaming. But then again, it was still one of the best phones in that price range. The Honor 8X has a Kirin 710, up to 6GB of RAM, and a Mali-G51 MP4. These improvements mean performance has had a big bump. Games like PUBG run flawlessly and performance overall is much better.
Camera
I have done camera reviews for both of these phones, and the Honor 8X is significantly better. The AI camera system is now implemented into the Honor X series, making its first appearance on the 8X. Some of the features that have been added in the 8X are Slow-mo, AI Mode, Night Mode, Portrait Mode and AR Lens.
Build Quality
Now I'm a big fan of metal unibody designs. So the 7X has a design that I really like. That being said, the 8X has the glass back aurora-style design from the Honor flagship phones. Both of these designs are solid and it will just come down to your personal preference. I really like the way that the Honor 8X looks, but like the solid and durable feel of the 7X a little better. Both phones look better in the brighter color variants.
Is there so little people using the Honor 8x?
I mean, there are phone releases by other manufacturers in the same month of October but I'm pretty sure that the price point of the Honor 8x is appealing.
With Honor also churning out more phones, its hard to make up my mind on which model to get.
SkeeterMY said:
Is there so little people using the Honor 8x?
I mean, there are phone releases by other manufacturers in the same month of October but I'm pretty sure that the price point of the Honor 8x is appealing.
With Honor also churning out more phones, its hard to make up my mind on which model to get.
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I don't think there are little people using it but a lot of people on XDA want phones that are open for development (which Honor is no longer).
If you don't care about custom ROMs, I think the 8X is a good deal.

From S8 to Mi 9 SE

Hi guys,
Is it logical to go from an Galaxy S8 to a Xiaomi Mi 9 SE? Is it worth it?
Please help
Thank you
yes, compare: https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/samsung-galaxy-s84gb-64gb-g950fd,xiaomi-mi-9-se
k_rhyme said:
Hi guys,
Is it logical to go from an Galaxy S8 to a Xiaomi Mi 9 SE? Is it worth it?
Please help
Thank you
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Why not skip all the way to Mi 9 ? seems downgrade, but hey, it's your choice ?
Thank you guys.
rzki03 said:
Why not skip all the way to Mi 9 ? seems downgrade, but hey, it's your choice
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prydox said:
yes, compare: https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/samsung-galaxy-s84gb-64gb-g950fd,xiaomi-mi-9-se
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Mi 9 is too big. I like the underscreen finger print and the design of the Mi 9 SE. The only problem is the battery life that is poor..
I go from s8 to mi9 then mi9se. Mi9 is good in performance but poor battery. Mi9se battery is much much better. And i like both of then got tele/wide angle camera
sonyt6102003 said:
I go from s8 to mi9 then mi9se. Mi9 is good in performance but poor battery. Mi9se battery is much much better. And i like both of then got tele/wide angle camera
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You do not miss the s8? Maybe the battery and screen of the S8 are better than that of the mi9se
Me too, I'm thinking to upgrade (or downgrade, if the word fits) my s8(exynos) to mi9se. All other new phones are too big, and quite too expensive.(Even the S10e)
My main problem with s8 is battery life and lack of developers. Will it be any better if I switch to mi9se?
baconbeacon said:
Me too, I'm thinking to upgrade (or downgrade, if the word fits) my s8(exynos) to mi9se. All other new phones are too big, and quite too expensive.(Even the S10e)
My main problem with s8 is battery life and lack of developers. Will it be any better if I switch to mi9se?
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I dont think it would be a downgrade tbh.
this is what I got running a xiaomi.eu 9.5.23 and okitaker custom kernel
-2 days and 4.35hrs SOT with a single charge (still having 9% so it can be a lil bit more)
Note: charging is pretty fast tho
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I never used custom kernel but I'm tempt
I came from S8 and I am very happy. No drawback since I changed to MI9Se. Battery is much better, although the capacity is almost the same as S8. I have no clue why, all Samsung phone have such a bad battery management
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I get around 6 to 7 hours SOT
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I came from S8 and I am very happy. No drawback since I changed to MI9Se. Battery is much better, although the capacity is almost the same as S8. I have no clue why, all Samsung phone have such a bad battery management
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I get around 6 to 7 hours SOT
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It's not about samsung being bad at battery management.
Newer phone = Newer battery,
Efficient cpu in comparison to s8.
There is no magic,pure logic
If gaming performance is not that important to you, trust me, you won't miss that much. Screen is basically the same, both phones are snappy but navigation is a bit different though especially the gestures (I love the One UI gestures, it's more convenient having the recent, home and back button in the same place down the screen rather than swiping the left and right on the edge of the screen). I bought the 9 SE as a secondary phone to my Galaxy S9+ because my S9+ rear camera and fingerprint module has already failed just right after the 1 year warranty period expired (just my pure luck). Having it fix here in my country cost way too much money so I just decided to get a phone with a decent camera instead until I can renew my contract from carrier next year.
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If gaming performance is not that important to you, trust me, you won't miss that much. Screen is basically the same, both phones are snappy but navigation is a bit different though especially the gestures (I love the One UI gestures, it's more convenient having the recent, home and back button in the same place down the screen rather than swiping the left and right on the edge of the screen). I bought the 9 SE as a secondary phone to my Galaxy S9+ because my S9+ rear camera and fingerprint module has already failed just right after the 1 year warranty period expired (just my pure luck). Having it fix here in my country cost way too much money so I just decided to get a phone with a decent camera instead until I can renew my contract from carrier next year.
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Just curious, why didn't you choose pixel 3a if camera was your need? Price?
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Just curious, why didn't you choose pixel 3a if camera was your need? Price?
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Well, Pixel phones are not officially supported or even sold in my country. I can get it in the grey market but I won't make such gamble especially if I'm spending $300 and above, warranty is important too if I will be investing that much.
Since I had my mi9se, I'll write some things that aren't noticeable without it:
1. the camera bump is really tall. 1.55mm isn't something like unnoticeable. also, its edges are sharp, so it's not a good design.
2. it's noticeably heaver than s8. my s8 without case&screen protection weighs 150g(using with really thin TPU case: 10g), and mi9se with glass screen protector but without case weighs 165g. BTW, stock TPU case is 16g, and it's not even fully covering the camera bump.
3. Fingerprint in display is cool, but not as fast as traditional ones. Though, it's not that slower compared with my unrooted S8.(using havoc ROM)
4. Proper GCam mod won't be avalable very soon, because of a bug made by xiaomi. It's snapdragon, so HDR+ process is way faster than S8, but because of that bug, pictures have a yellowish tone.
5. Custom ROM development isn't very popular for a Xiaomi device.
6. No waterproofing, and durability is unknown. If you are wondering what I'm saying, go search "jerryrigeverything" at youtube, and watch his video about xiaomi/redmi.
Now for the good part:
1. The display is very bright. Brighter than S8.
2. Having a wide angle lens is nice. Really, it's nice.
3. There definitively are developers, and we've got proper ROM(Havoc, came just in a few days ago)! yes, non-MiUI, non-GSI, proper custom ROM!
All in all, not a perfect device, but great bang for the buck.
BTW, mi cc9e is coming with a bigger battery, but I suspect it's gonna be really heavy.
In my Opinion the main reason to get a 9SE instead of a S8 is the price. So if you have to look at your money take the 9SE.
In a week the MI A3 should be purchaseable, this phone could be a choice as well. Not sure if a MI A3 Lite is gonna be released as well.

Question T-Mobile OnePlus 9 Pro deals

Black Friday is around the corner but T-Mobile is already putting out a deal on the 9 Pro.
Probably in response to the new Pixels. Which seem to be a downgrade vs the 9 Pro (except for the camera).
I was ready to buy the Pixel 6 Pro but I wanted a lighter phone, a brighter phone and a cooler phone.
So, I looked around and wound up with the OnePlus 9 Pro after T-Mobile put out their current deal.
For me, it was the way to go!
$98/month including taxes (in my area).
You get the phone and Magenta Max which comes with free everything and Netflix.
I spent the extra $10/month to get Netflix 4K UHD on four screens.
But then, I have a $10/month corporate discount, so it's a wash for me!
If you've got $800 (black Friday from OnePlus) then skip TMO and just buy direct from OnePlus, your life will be easier.
TMO requires some hoops to jump through before you can root'n'ROM.
But I managed to get a custom ROM & root going on my third day with the phone, for free. Just takes a little learning and a huge assist from a fellow XDA'er (not sure if he wants me to mention his name?).
All fee's are supposedlly included in the quote below. $98 out the door per month (24 months).
I thought about just buying a 256GB 8 Pro for $450 cash and sticking with Google Fi but I'm happy with my decision so far.
Plus, the 9 Pro is a little lighter than the 8 Pro and that's an important thing for me (jogging with gym shorts - heavy phones are not cool).
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Don't want to rain on your parade now that you've purchased the phone but I'm currently using 9Pro and will dump this phone as soon as my P6Pro arrives.
The OP9P is indeed lighter than P6P, but I'm not sure about the other two.
I went to Best Buy to check out the P6Pro, and the screens are about the same to my eyes, not surprising considering they're probably using the same LTPO OLED panel from Samsung.
And regarding cooler? There are numerous threads like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/oneplus-9-pro-overheating-very-often.4332695/. It's not a fault with OP9P specifically but rather SD888 itself.
I'm done with OnePlus in general, especially after testing out Android 12 Open Beta 1 (A12 OB1).
The OP9P is supposed to be OnePlus' current flagship, and we're still not getting security updates on a regular basis. The 2 previous updates came in June and September. It's even worse with the previous flagship (O8Pro) which didn't get any update for between May and October of 2021.
OnePlus users in general have already felt a sense of neglect from the company this past year, now that OnePlus is being absorbed by Oppo, I am even less confident in the new entity's long-term support. ColorOS 12 has been officially released for the Oppo Find X3 Pro (a phone with identical gut to the OP9P), yet OP9P is still stuck on a buggy OB1 with several features missing compared to ColorOS 12. That "neglected step-child" feeling is growing ever stronger every day -- not a good feeling for a $1000-flagship-class phone.
Moreover, the development scene for OP9P isn't very active. EvolutionX and crDroid are about the only ROMs still being actively maintained and kept up-to-date.
Software is very important to me, and I'll take Google's guaranteed 5 years of monthly update on the P6P over OnePlus' lackadaisical approach so far any day. T-Mobile gave me $900 off for the P6Pro when I traded in my OP8Pro so cost isn't even an issue.
My advice for you while you're still within the 30-day return period:
- Try using the phone for extended period and see if your phone gets hot. Maybe you'd be lucky.
- Try using OB1 and see if you like the new direction OxygenOS is going, because chances are you'd be stuck using that due to the lack of interest in A12 ROM development for OP9P.
Maybe the P6Pro isn't for you. The Samsung S21 Ultra which is a better phone than OP9Pro in most ways (can't believe there's a day I'm saying this), then the S22 series is right around the corner. Heck, I'd switch to iPhone before buying another OnePlus.
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Don't want to rain on your parade now that you've purchased the phone but I'm currently using 9Pro and will dump this phone as soon as my P6Pro arrives.
The OP9P is indeed lighter than P6P, but I'm not sure about the other two.
I went to Best Buy to check out the P6Pro, and the screens are about the same to my eyes, not surprising considering they're probably using the same LTPO OLED panel from Samsung.
And regarding cooler? There are numerous threads like this https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/oneplus-9-pro-overheating-very-often.4332695/. It's not a fault with OP9P specifically but rather SD888 itself.
I'm done with OnePlus in general, especially after testing out Android 12 Open Beta 1 (A12 OB1).
The OP9P is supposed to be OnePlus' current flagship, and we're still not getting security updates on a regular basis. The 2 previous updates came in June and September. It's even worse with the previous flagship (O8Pro) which didn't get any update for between May and October of 2021.
OnePlus users in general have already felt a sense of neglect from the company this past year, now that OnePlus is being absorbed by Oppo, I am even less confident in the new entity's long-term support. ColorOS 12 has been officially released for the Oppo Find X3 Pro (a phone with identical gut to the OP9P), yet OP9P is still stuck on a buggy OB1 with several features missing compared to ColorOS 12. That "neglected step-child" feeling is growing ever stronger every day -- not a good feeling for a $1000-flagship-class phone.
Moreover, the development scene for OP9P isn't very active. EvolutionX and crDroid are about the only ROMs still being actively maintained and kept up-to-date.
Software is very important to me, and I'll take Google's guaranteed 5 years of monthly update on the P6P over OnePlus' lackadaisical approach so far any day. T-Mobile gave me $900 off for the P6Pro when I traded in my OP8Pro so cost isn't even an issue.
My advice for you while you're still within the 30-day return period:
- Try using the phone for extended period and see if your phone gets hot. Maybe you'd be lucky.
- Try using OB1 and see if you like the new direction OxygenOS is going, because chances are you'd be stuck using that due to the lack of interest in A12 ROM development for OP9P.
Maybe the P6Pro isn't for you. The Samsung S21 Ultra which is a better phone than OP9Pro in most ways (can't believe there's a day I'm saying this), then the S22 series is right around the corner. Heck, I'd switch to iPhone before buying another OnePlus.
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Agreed, OxygenOS doesn't cut it. The only reason to aquire a OnePlus 9 is if you can't afford a true topshelf device.

Question So I've bought the ROG6 to replace the X80 Pro...

I was on my mind for a while, but i couldn't take the laggy interface of NOT FUNTOUCH OS anymore and the awful inconsistent battery life anymore, which is kinda of a big shame as the camera ROCKS and is better than any phone out there easily(except the Mate 40 Pro+).
So, yesterday i've bought the ROG6 after many thoughts and here is my conclusion so far:
-Let's start with the not so good that all the reviewers have been pointing out... The Camera!
It ain't that bad, it actually quite good and useful during daylight and less during nighttime, but it's still doing the job.
Yes it ain't touching the X80 Pro, not by miles and miles and miles... but it's more than serviceable specially selfies.
-Battery+Speakers+Performance+Battery Life are TOP NOTCH!
I've got 8.10hr before battery reached 5%, and while it seems to be "low" since it has 6000mah, keep in mind that it was the first boot in which i've transferred all the data from the vivo, restored whatapp backups, played some games, installed YouTube, updates and had it all under 165hz all the time, so first impression of the battery is excellent( probably can get easily 10-11hr with 144/120hz usage).
Performance ****s all over x80 pro besides it being SUPER FAST, it did one thing that no android that i ever owned has ever done... CLOSING BACKGROUND APPS, it did NONE of it, all my apps were in the background and never reloaded, i'm still shocked tbh( outside some oddities like Tinder and OKCUPID, which android really hates).
Speakers are punchy, bassy and have good balance of volume, and you can force an "outside mode" that will make them very loud at some expense of the sound quality.
The screen is FHD+ but it's gorgeous, not matching the vivo or high-end Samsung screens but it's very good.
Asus has just 3 preinstalled apps and clean android, it boots and loads everything so fast that i miss it sometimes.
In conclusion, for now, it is the Vivo X80 Pro we deserve but never got!!!
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I used Mate 40 Pro before and I have to say its camera is very good for both day and night situations. Just wonder how good is the Mate 40 Pro Plus's camera as you said here compared to X80 Pro? (you said x80 pro is better over most of the phones except the Mate 40 Pro Plus)
How about P50 Pro? have you have any chances to test it or use it?
Currently I'm still using S22U. Although the camera is not in the same level as Huawei in night mode, I found that its portrait mode is superior, especially 3x zoom portrait mode. The photos came out can be compared with my Nikon and Canon DSLR in terms of portrait (not kidding, I'm so surprised). So I guess I'll keep this S22U because I don't have any problem with lag, heating, or battery. I heard that the new update coming up in August can fix the shutter lag problem of the camera (my main issue currently). So if it's true then I would be really happy with my choice. Will look at x80 pro when the software is more stable in the future and the price dropped at least $100-200 more.
Mate 40 pro 50mp ai mode is unmatched, the vivo is much better during nighttime and slightly better zoom.
But overall the X80 pro phone as a whole is a disaster atm, not recommended.
I told you !!
Asus rocks ...
If they would spend a tad more on the camera and less on a backdisplay that's kinda useless and just have a faux leather back which would include Wireless charge then it would be a STRONG contender for any Android Flagship device.
Enjoy ....
Dutch-Vivo said:
I told you !!
Asus rocks ...
If they would spend a tad more on the camera and less on a backdisplay that's kinda useless and just have a faux leather back which would include Wireless charge then it would be a STRONG contender for any Android Flagship device.
Enjoy ....
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Haha you were so ****ing right!
ASUS should make a combo of rog with zenphone with minimum gaming features.
Just customization of the software and hardware.
Outside the camera and screen, the ROG6 feels so far ahead of the vivo x80 pro it's not funny
Second day of using the phone, 165hz 1d 1hr 9.15hr sot!
That's how you do battery and don't excessively close background apps all the time, even with 12gb ram.
I'll keep the x80 pro for the camera and to see if Vivo can fix there awful software.

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