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It's too late ... Microsoft has quite some advantage here with their Xbox platform.
Anyway, do you play games on your phone?
I do !
- Puzzle Quest
- Allmost all kind of card games
- Billiard
- Scrabble
- Shooter (but rarely because HTC Kaiser sucks on graphics).
Microsoft may have the advantage with XBox, but Apple definitely has the advantage with the iPhone. Indie games can be ported from XBox to WP7 in no time maybe, but AC2, Halo and NFS weren't coded in C#, so I'm not quite sure about real titles.
Does the typical XBox game translate well to a mobile device? Just because a game is awesome on a game console doesn't mean it will be awesome on a smartphone form-factor.
Whichever platform has the best mobile-friendly games will dominate. Hopefully MS has something smart in the works.
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Does the typical XBox game translate well to a mobile device? Just because a game is awesome on a game console doesn't mean it will be awesome on a smartphone form-factor.
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Certainly games don't come to phones from consoles/PC unmodified - if nothing else, they're too huge. Phone gaming is also much more casual. However, my understanding is that Need For Speed or Assassin's Creed are hits on consoles, PSP and the iPhone. I don't see why Halo couldn't.
To be successful nowadays, you dont only rely to shiny graphics or super fluid 3D.
But more on game play and current mantra, social gaming.
Sometimes, it is just a simple game, casual game, which we can find some good example on Facebook.
People are just addicted to it.
The only thing about this new WP7 gaming platform that let me down: It does not support synchronous/real-time online multiplayer, nor wi-fi/bluetooh adhoc. Don't even think about MMORPG like World of Warcraft, simplicistic graphics like Ragnarok online won't be possible because of that limitation.
Probably within 1 or 2 years, when the hardware will be improved, Microsoft have more time, they will be available on XNA GameStudio 4.1 or 5.0
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http://www.ithinkdiff.com/how-apple-should-combat-windows-phone-7-series-gaming-124123
It's too late ... Microsoft has quite some advantage here with their Xbox platform.
Anyway, do you play games on your phone?
I do !
- Puzzle Quest
- Allmost all kind of card games
- Billiard
- Scrabble
- Shooter (but rarely because HTC Kaiser sucks on graphics).
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IMO best game ever on any smartphone/ipod/zune: BEJEWELED 2 \/
I do play games on my mobile device, but usually not very complicated games. So things like bejeweled 2, solitair, 'tower-defence games' and stuff like that.
And I do agree that 7 Series could become a better platform than the iPhone regarding gaming, because of a few reasons.
The only game they need on wp7 is geometry wars and it's all over for apple gaming .
It's too early to tell, but I think Windows Phone 7 is going to be the new standard in mobile gaming come this fall. Apple had never really cared about gaming nor do I think their user base cares much for it either(they're all about music).
Microsoft also has a pretty huge incentive to get a successful mobile gaming platform comparable to the likes of the PSP and Nintendo DS.
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It's too early to tell, but I think Windows Phone 7 is going to be the new standard in mobile gaming come this fall. Apple had never really cared about gaming nor do I think their user base cares much for it either(they're all about music).
Microsoft also has a pretty huge incentive to get a successful mobile gaming platform comparable to the likes of the PSP and Nintendo DS.
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Most popular iPhone app categories...
Somebody over there likes games
Hopefully they will let you use external controller or keyboard on games.
I hardly think Apple's worried about the gaming aspect of WP7S. Games are tremendously popular on the iPhone, mainly because a lot of the games are simple and puzzle-like (like Bejeweled, Peggle, Flight Control, etc.). Achievements are nice, but hardly something alone that will pull away iPhone owners or potential iPhone owners to WP7S.
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Still I'd never consider the iPhone a mobile gaming platform as most of those "games" are more like flash titles you play in your browser to pass the time.
From what's revealed at the moment, I think Apple will be having quite a hard time confronting WP7S on the battleground of gaming. No, I'm not talking about folly such as porting Gears of War or Mass Effect to a petty phone. What I'm talking about is the might of Xbox Live Arcade. I can instantly name some XBLA titles that will do fantastic on a phone, such as:
- Puzzle Quest
- Exit
- Braid
On XBLA currently there are already tons of stuff to attract light or serious gamers alike. And I can't see the reason why this is not happening. Firstly both WP7S phones and XBLA relies on the same XNA suite for game dev. Secondly the bottomline WP7S hardware specs leads to bunch of performance monsters.
Apple may have thousands of third-party developers. But when it comes to the dog fight with *polished*, *sophitiscated*, *professional* games, XBLA wins big big.
I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't already launched an Apple-branded games console to rival the Xbox. Maybe this will inspire them.
Apple just can't do many things at once, they are a very focused company. They don't do like several dozen ventures to see what works. They brew their stuff until they're sure it's polished enough and then push it. Plus, with consoles, where's the opportunity? They like to go after categories where you have SEA companies making cool hardware but being just unable to make software right to create good user experience. This allows Apple to make hit products which allow the company to squeeze those huge margins by bundling bulk (and thus cheap) hardware with their software. You need all these factors to work at once to create a good opportunity for Apple. Consoles are a different beast, I think.
They may, of course, see a way of redefining the market, but I doubt it. I'd rather expect Google to do one of their crazy silly things like a free opensource console with Google Maps or something ridiculous like that.
Anyway, do you play games on your phone?
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X1 HW Keyboard + Morphgear
There is nothing like old school gameboy on mobile phone
Maybe there will be Xbox mobile. Mix between phone and portable game system with real D-Pad, analog sticks and buttons
This is the big boon for me. The Live platform on a phone? Yes please! There's various different gaming platforms on the iPhone, handling anything from scoreboards to fully-fledged vs multiplayer. To have the whole thing integrated in to a single, native service is fantastic!
XNA Game Studios and Silverlight also seem a lot more capable than the iPhone's dev tools. Hopefully WinPho7 won't get plagued by the same utter crap that fills the App Store (wishful thinking?). The only games I actually like on my iPhone are Plants vs Zombies, Peggle, Bejewelled, Flight Control, Canabalt and the geoDefence games. That's out of the 50 titles I've purchased for the platform. Poor going indeed.
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Still I'd never consider the iPhone a mobile gaming platform as most of those "games" are more like flash titles you play in your browser to pass the time.
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Those are called video games in my era.
What you play probably is reality video game ie. hardcore gamer!!!!!
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I'm actually surprised Apple hasn't already launched an Apple-branded games console to rival the Xbox. Maybe this will inspire them.
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Nintendo beat them to the the Wii. It is very Apple-esque.
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Those are called video games in my era.
What you play probably is reality video game ie. hardcore gamer!!!!!
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Gaming has evolved since then - what we want is 3D shooters and RPGs or games that last longer than half-an hour.
Take the PSP as an example of what I'd wish microsoft would bring to WP7.
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Gang, now having all three popular major smartphone systems has allowed me to sample the gaming offerings they provide. It looks like WP7 provides the most fun and best games of all of them....simplistic and casual and high quality type games. There's a larger amount of more enjoyable games on WP7 than on iOS or Android.
I'm not a biased person and love all smartphone systems equally so please keep the rants and misunderstandings out . And am merely reporting what I'm experiencing. I'm driven to WP7 for the gaming enjoyment and spend more time playing games on it.
The current games I like and find very enjoyable for passing time are...not in ranked order:
ilomilo
Tiki Towers (I know, it's also on other systems)
iBlast Moki
Need for Speed: Undercover
Fruit Ninja (I know, it's also on other systems)
Bubble Town 2
Tower Bloxx New York
I Dig It
Parachute Panic
Jigsaw Guru
Rise of Glory
Chicks'n'Vixens
Sketch Defence
Word Hunt
Word Tangle
Peg Jump
Frog Log
Solitaire (Offscreen Technologies version)
One game that seems interesting, but I don't understand, is Pocket God. If anyone knows how to play it; what the objective is, let me know.
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Gang, now having all three popular major smartphone systems has allowed me to sample the gaming offerings they provide. It looks like WP7 provides the most fun and best games of all of them....simplistic and casual and high quality type games. There's a larger amount of more enjoyable games on WP7 than on iOS or Android.
I'm not a biased person and love all smartphone systems equally so please keep the rants and misunderstandings out . And am merely reporting what I'm experiencing. I'm driven to WP7 for the gaming enjoyment and spend more time playing games on it.
The current games I like and find very enjoyable for passing time are...not in ranked order:
ilomilo
Tiki Towers (I know, it's also on other systems)
iBlast Moki
Need for Speed: Undercover
Fruit Ninja (I know, it's also on other systems)
Bubble Town 2
Tower Bloxx New York
I Dig It
Parachute Panic
Jigsaw Guru
Rise of Glory
Chicks'n'Vixens
Sketch Defence
Word Hunt
Word Tangle
Peg Jump
Frog Log
Solitaire (Offscreen Technologies version)
One game that seems interesting, but I don't understand, is Pocket God. If anyone knows how to play it; what the objective is, let me know.
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Agreed... Pocket God is a strange one though... I mean it really plays out like just a bunch of ways to kill your little minions with a ton of mini--games involved. Really just a game for those who love achievements.
Casual maybe, but personally i disagree. some devices/platforms have the same game with more features. Take fruit ninja for example, it has multiplayer on another platform.
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Casual maybe, but personally i disagree. some devices/platforms have the same game with more features. Take fruit ninja for example, it has multiplayer on another platform.
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FruitNinja is one of the worst port games... Glitches and missing function.
The List of Great games should not miss The Harvest
ios has games like Dead Space 2 and Infinity Blade, android has multiplayer and FPS games, WP7 is full of iphone ports or games that are more expensive than other platforms, no real time MP - I dont see how its the superior gaming platform.
efjay said:
ios has games like Dead Space 2 and Infinity Blade, android has multiplayer and FPS games, WP7 is full of iphone ports or games that are more expensive than other platforms, no real time MP - I dont see how its the superior gaming platform.
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Nicely said.
Agree. Aside from the ilomilo (great game btw) and The Harvest (which i couldn't finish due to savegame crashes) most games really are more expensive ports of iOS and Android games. Dunno why xbox cheevos make 0.99c games like pocket god, fruit ninja, etc more expensive. Still, M$ needs to step it up. Currently i'm playing Real Racing 2, Pocket Legends and Dundef (cross platform online multiplayer iOS and android) which imho M$ should get for their platform
There are a lot of games I didn't include, which are no doubt excellent. But I didn't include them because I don't play them or find them casually and simplistically fun. There are similar or exact games on other systems, but I included them because they make up the entirety of the offerings that can be had on this system. When Angry Birds comes out for WP7, it also will be included in the "fun" factor of WP7 gaming.
WP7's own unique games are much better than anything comparative found on any other system.
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Agree. Aside from the ilomilo (great game btw) and The Harvest (which i couldn't finish due to savegame crashes) most games really are more expensive ports of iOS and Android games. Dunno why xbox cheevos make 0.99c games like pocket god, fruit ninja, etc more expensive. Still, M$ needs to step it up. Currently i'm playing Real Racing 2, Pocket Legends and Dundef (cross platform online multiplayer iOS and android) which imho M$ should get for their platform
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Right, MS should put some great gameloft games like gangstar, modern combat, nova, etc.. even my old nexus one has it but i cant play it since the multitouch sucks. Dead space is another example (xperia play will be having it).. im just glad i can play dead space on ipad.. i really love that game! pocket legends is boring IMO.
Ilomilo alone is the definition of what a cellphone game should be. It's something you can play in short or long intervals, it's perfect for a handheld device, the graphics are great, the controls are flawless, I could go on and on but what it comes down to is no other mobile game compares.
I'd say wp7 has the potential to be the best of the 3, but has a ways to go before that is the case. There are some excellent games, however.
Maybe when the nextgen devices become available, better games (or ports lol) will alsp come out. But until then, my wp7 stays in the box while i play on my iP
Even a Microsoft fanboy like me can't agree the the OP. WP7 is a joke compared to iOS. Sure it may be a matter of time but as of today calling it the best smartphone gaming platform is being delusional.
Also, by the time great games like Dead Space come out on WP7 (which is also more wishful thinking, and will most likely be another port of the iOS version IF it ever does come) even better games would have already rolled out on iOS and android. Fiinal Fantasy 3, the DS version has already been announced for the iOS, Dungeon Defenders 2nd Wave already demoed for Android. Also, check out Desert Winds for the Android. These alone would make people think twice about gaming on WP7
What is tying down phones is the lack of hardware controls. When the Playstation phone comes on Android it will raise the bar out of sight. Even if there were no new games, just the PS1 emulator, it would dominate any smartphone.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/27/sony-announces-playstation-suite/
And other Android phones will get some of the benefits.
Microsoft can't compete with this, but they can at least reduce the damage if they:
-Launch an XBox phone.
-Produce a standard bluetooth controller that be added to any Windows Phone.
Then they will have to rely on new content, but can they get the necessary market share among gamers?
They are in a tough spot because they are competing against players (Nintendo, Sony) that have experience with portable gaming and existing content that can be used immediately.
Better position than Apple though.
I found another one called Krashlander. This is the pure, simplistic type, fun that really makes WP7 the best there is for smartphone gaming. Of course, the WP7-only games like ilomilo and others help it be the best, too. Of the 3 major smartphone systems, WP7 happens to be produced by the world's leading gaming company and it already, at this early age, shows.
Hi, could any gaming veteran advice some good positions for playing of various gender? I mean some good 4x strategy like Master of Orion, racing, shooter, survival horror, adventure and at the and some platform.
I am also interested in games like Roguelike RPG (ADOM), Heroes of Might and Magic and any other adjusted from PC to our pocket station .
Thanks
Sebalos said:
Hi, could any gaming veteran advice some good positions for playing of various gender? I mean some good 4x strategy like Master of Orion, racing, shooter, survival horror, adventure and at the and some platform.
I am also interested in games like Roguelike RPG (ADOM), Heroes of Might and Magic and any other adjusted from PC to our pocket station .
Thanks
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I'm guessing English isn't your first language. The line about "good positions for playing of various gender." Makes absolutely no sense, so it's hard to understand what you are asking. Do you want some good game recommendations?
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Yes it is not my first language very good perception, however you guessed very well what I meant (and very good imagination), anyway I've a little complicated the grammar and sorry for that.
Exactly, the question is: what games can you recommend to me. I am interested in all the types.
Thanks a lot once again and forgive me next puzzles if any...
Sebalos said:
Yes it is not my first language very good perception, however you guessed very well what I meant (and very good imagination), anyway I've a little complicated the grammar and sorry for that.
Exactly, the question is: what games can you recommend to me. I am interested in all the types.
Thanks a lot once again and forgive me next puzzles if any...
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N64oid!! - I know you know what a N64 is And I know you love Super Mario 64
Something newer ?
OK, the games I have installed right now are asphalt 2, cubes free(kinda old school graphics, but lots of fun), gun bros (one of my favorites), heavy gunner, nfs shift, spectral souls (very expensive, but well put together turn based RPG), squible (it was the first game on the market that captured my attention), zenonia 1 and 2 (Zelda style RPG) and also live holdem pro(free live poker game, very addicting)
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Sebalos said:
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I think the word you are looking for is "genre", not gender. Genre is a group or category of something, and gender is sex (like male or female).
In any case, Pocket Legends is pretty cool, but the games I limit myself to these days are Angry Birds, Slice It and Wordfeud...all puzzle type games.
-- B
I'm a gamer myself and have literally tried every game available on android. Pocket legends is pretty fun to have for a portable mmorpg. It has some obvious tones similar to world of warcraft. Another fun rpg is crusade of destiny. Its got great graphics and fun gameplay and kept me busy for a couple of weeks. Spectral souls is a well made game for sure but its more one of those strategy rpgs that lacks the ability to fully control the player. It reminds me more of an amped up chess game so it wasn't my taste.
Also if you're running a high end device, which I can assume you are because you're in this forum, I can reccommend any of the gameloft games. They aren't available on the market so you'll need to visit their site. Just google gameloft. They are a little pricey and some of the games can be a little buggy at times but as far as graphis go and playability there is little comparison out there. Games like splinter cell, hawx, modern combat 2, and avatar come in high definition formats and stick pretty close to the full size counterparts.
Other than that you should bury your gaming urges in one of the several well made emulators on the market. A lot of good games from the days past and some fun memories too!
Happy gaming!
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N64oid, Gameboid, Psxoid or whatever.
You have a choice of ANY N64, GBA, PSX game.
Air attack lite
Angry birrds
mini squadron
robo defence
asphalt 5
gangstar
hawx
nfs shift
nova
worms
Ok guys thanks, so I am starting to test them
Ok guys thanks, so I am starting to test them all
Another game I would highly recommend is Project INF. It's a top down multiplayer shooter. Somewhat addictive once you get into it.
I think someone already mentioned it but GunBros is also a good shooter game.
EA also has a bunch of mainstream titles on Android like Sims 3 and FIFA 10.
I hate to support companies that refuse to support Android by refusing to put their apps on the market but Gameloft really has some of the best Android games. I currently have Modern Combat 2 and for an FPS with 3D graphics running on a phone, it's absolutely stellar! It even has multiplayer. Not sure about the price but I think I got it for $3.99 or $4.99. Just Google "gameloft".
chancy319 said:
Another game I would highly recommend is Project INF. It's a top down multiplayer shooter. Somewhat addictive once you get into it.
I think someone already mentioned it but GunBros is also a good shooter game.
EA also has a bunch of mainstream titles on Android like Sims 3 and FIFA 10.
I hate to support companies that refuse to support Android by refusing to put their apps on the market but Gameloft really has some of the best Android games. I currently have Modern Combat 2 and for an FPS with 3D graphics running on a phone, it's absolutely stellar! It even has multiplayer. Not sure about the price but I think I got it for $3.99 or $4.99. Just Google "gameloft".
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Have you even looked into the reason WHY gameloft games are not on the market? It has nothing to do with them not supporting android.
It has to do with the fact that they have different .apk's for different gpus in different phones, the games are optimized for specific gpu's, that's why they look so good. The market doesn't allow multiple apk's or detect phone gpus so they can't put it up there properly.
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Ok i will look at the Project INF and Modern Combat 2 thanks
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Have you even looked into the reason WHY gameloft games are not on the market? It has nothing to do with them not supporting android.
It has to do with the fact that they have different .apk's for different gpus in different phones, the games are optimized for specific gpu's, that's why they look so good. The market doesn't allow multiple apk's or detect phone gpus so they can't put it up there properly.
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Source of this information?
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Source of this information?
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When you buy a game from them they require your phone model to give you the right one.
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One game that I can heartily recommend is Majesty. Plays pretty much like the PC version. I'm in the same boat as you otherwise, just got a g2, only had a g1 beforehand, in which I ran nesoid and gensoid, nes and genesis emulators.
I did run across some apps about emulating Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and the Baulders Gates/Planscape Torment games...but you need the data files from the games, so either have to own em or....
Search Pelya (the maker) for those. I havn't been able to test them out fully yet, looking for my old discs now >.<
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One game that I can heartily recommend is Majesty. Plays pretty much like the PC version. I'm in the same boat as you otherwise, just got a g2, only had a g1 beforehand, in which I ran nesoid and gensoid, nes and genesis emulators.
I did run across some apps about emulating Heroes of Might and Magic 2 and the Baulders Gates/Planscape Torment games...but you need the data files from the games, so either have to own em or....
Search Pelya (the maker) for those. I havn't been able to test them out fully yet, looking for my old discs now >.<
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Wow i have both of them original versions ,please tell me how they can be launched on the our little machines and if they are not too slow?
By the way i am still looking forward ADOM and Fallout distribution if it is possible.
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Yeah I would kill for Fallout, never really got into the BG series. As such I don't own the first one, and after reading more gemRB is only allows bg2 demo, so didn't bother.
Free Heroes 2 on the other hand, works pretty well. Was just playing some Heroes of Might and Magic 2.
Quick run down on what you have to do.
Download Free Heroes 2 on your g2/desire z
Install HoMM2 on your computer, go into the game files, copy the data folder, go into your sd card and put the data folder in "app-data/net.sourceforge.fheroes2"
You will most likely have to make the sourceforge folder.
Now start the game, make sure the "where to download application data" tab is pointed to your sd card, and then go to "downloads" tab, click game data I guess? Then dl midi music and essential map pack, get the additional and mega map pack if you wish, and any of the translations.
Now you should be able to run the game, but will run into the issue i had, crashing after the first turn I imagine
SO, remount your phone to the pc, open up your sourceforge.fheroes2 folder, and look for "fheroes2.cfg"
Open it with notepad, then look for "videomode = 640x480"
Change it to "videomode = 800x480" and save. Now should run with no issues...hopefully. I tested a few turns then attacked a graveyard....suffice to say I died
Took me a little bit of scouring to figure out exactly how to get it to run, and still havn't messed with any of the more indepth tweaks, so if you figure out some that work real well, be sure to pass them along
Hi i will have my SGS2 soon and i have brought the mrs a Galaxy ace as its her first smart phone and very cheap indeed.
I was woundering if there any 2 player games that we both can play against eachother from eachothers phones,
I no apples phones have games like this but i really havnt a clue with android as im slightly rusty with it tbh and never really had any freinds with an android device.
I've come across a few and they tend to be turn based games rather than real-time. There's a whole bunch of Scrabble derivatives (Words with friends, wordfeud, wordsmith), a few for chess (chess-presso is the only one I've tried but I know there are others) and one that I particularly like is Pool Break which lets you play pool, snooker, and a couple of other games.
For real-time gaming the only one I know of is Homerun Battle 3D which is quite good fun. I'm sure there are others but that should get you started.
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I've come across a few and they tend to be turn based games rather than real-time. There's a whole bunch of Scrabble derivatives (Words with friends, wordfeud, wordsmith), a few for chess (chess-presso is the only one I've tried but I know there are others) and one that I particularly like is Pool Break which lets you play pool, snooker, and a couple of other games.
For real-time gaming the only one I know of is Homerun Battle 3D which is quite good fun. I'm sure there are others but that should get you started.
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Isn't mini squadron multiplayer? That's a fun little game.
so there is a few then, id concider playing any game against the mrs!
if you like starcraft, try starfront from gameloft, very nice detailed game, and very nice to play against friends (and your mrs if she likes that kind of games.)
Edit: they have multiplayer on most games, so check out their website. I believe they also have some nice racing games etc.
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if you like starcraft, try starfront from gameloft, very nice detailed game, and very nice to play against friends (and your mrs if she likes that kind of games.)
Edit: they have multiplayer on most games, so check out their website. I believe they also have some nice racing games etc.
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ill give it ago , My phone comes 2mrw and she wont have hers till thursday on her birthday. but nice to no we can play a few games togther
check out flight control, i use to play it on my iphone4 with a friend over bluetooth, very fun game.
the android version should be the same, check if its got two player on trial time .
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.namcowireless.flightcontrol
Shipcombat and Curaca are fun too, the later one is as far as I know only available in German as of now.
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