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Hi,
I've had my M9 for a couple of weeks now, and slowly getting it to work how I want it to. One thing nagging me is this weird issue I have with waking the device from sleep.
I have tried to disable all the gesture/smart wake features (double tap the screen, etc). The issue I'm having seems to relate to the light and/or proximity sensor. It seems (and I haven't been able to find any info on this, online or on the phone) that there is a feature which will enable the device to wake up when being picked up or taken out of my pocket. This doesn't always work, but sometimes it does. When I pull my phone from my pocket, it will sometimes wake up. When I glide my finger over the front camera & light sensor, it will sometimes wake up. This is a minor annoyance, as I would like to only be able to wake my device by hitting the power button.
It gets really annoying when these 'gesture' wakes start to interfere with the power button wake. For example (and this is happening more often than not), when I pull my phone out of my pocket, the phone is off, then I hit the power button once, and the phone still doesn't wake. Hitting the power button a second time will wake the device. It seems to me that the smart waking is some how interfering with the manual waking.
Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
Any suggestions for a solution?
Thanks a lot for any help.
This is really odd considering the M9 doesn't support air gestures. Sorry, I have no solution, but is it possible you may have installed an app that may be causing this?
I would think two button push would be the normal, otherwise you could accidentally hit it once and turn the screen on. Do you have Ambient display and pocket detection all turned off ?
Gravity Screen in the play store gives you total control of all that stuff
That for the replies guys.
Clsa, there is no way to disable ambient display & pocket detect because those features do not exist on the M9 (at least... Not that I have found). That's what is bugging me.
I don't think the 2 button press is normal. I've never had to do it on previous phones.
Fernand - not sure if it is another app causing it. I think I have no extra apps installed compared to my last phone.
I just tried Gravity Screen, and it seems to just give me the ability to enable all the features I want to disable.
Any other suggestions?
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That for the replies guys.
Clsa, there is no way to disable ambient display & pocket detect because those features do not exist on the M9 (at least... Not that I have found). That's what is bugging me.
I don't think the 2 button press is normal. I've never had to do it on previous phones.
Fernand - not sure if it is another app causing it. I think I have no extra apps installed compared to my last phone.
I just tried Gravity Screen, and it seems to just give me the ability to enable all the features I want to disable.
Any other suggestions?
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Settings / Display & Gestures / Ambient display (Wake screen when device is picked up or notifications arrive)
Pocket Detection is part of some Rom Tweaks (insertcoin & viperOne if i remember right)
Hi again, that option is not available on my phone. Do you see it on your M9?
I don't have a custom ROM. Not rooted either.
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Hi again, that option is not available on my phone. Do you see it on your M9?
I don't have a custom ROM. Not rooted either.
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Yes I have it, but I'm on LeeDroid right now. He adds so much stuff i forget whats "custom" and whats stock
Got the same issue
The power button will ignore the first push while standing by for a long time. Thought it might be caused by apps like greentify?
Hi Ducati, is that a fact or is that just how you understand it? Seems strange that that would be intentional. But it definitely seems to be the case.
I do not have greenify installed either.
Do you get similar behaviour on your One?
After a bit more testing. I can confirm that there are some sort of air gestures on this device. I can wave my finger in front of the front light sensor/camera, and the device will wake.
This doesn't happen all the time, I am not always able to reproduce this. But right now, it is happening. Can anyone else reproduce this?
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I have the same issue on my M9. Glad I found this thread. Thought my power button was defective.
I can't activate any gestures by waving my hand.
I think it's happening mostly when waking from deep sleep.
I know it's an old thread, but I just installed CyanogenMod 12.1 and I guess my google-fu is rusty. I find that if I hit the power button in quick succession (double click) it turns off the phone. Anyone know how I can stop this?
By quick succession I mean multiple times within 20 seconds
The phone itself is really nice. There are few functions that I would like a dial-up, and a couple of critiques.
These are all connected in some way to Google assistant I believe.
1: the phone will not activate using the voice phrase, unless I unlock the phone first. This defeats me using the phone hands-free while I drive. Also, when the screen goes into sleep mode, the phone will not respond okay Google or hey Google at all.
2: when I tell Google voice assistant "take a picture" it opens the camera app, but does not snap a picture I Once again I have to do it manually. I'd like to just say it and have it take the picture.
3: I have heard that there will be a change that will allow people to create a custom wake up phrase? That would be great
4: Since I have the fingerprint scanner, I do not want to use the pin or any other screen lock. Is there a way to turn these features off and simply used the fingerprint scanner?
Thanks again, thanks for your patience while I Noob out on this new product.
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papamalo said:
The phone itself is really nice. There are few functions that I would like a dial-up, and a couple of critiques.
These are all connected in some way to Google assistant I believe.
1: the phone will not activate using the voice phrase, unless I unlock the phone first. This defeats me using the phone hands-free while I drive. Also, when the screen goes into sleep mode, the phone will not respond okay Google or hey Google at all.
2: when I tell Google voice assistant "take a picture" it opens the camera app, but does not snap a picture I Once again I have to do it manually. I'd like to just say it and have it take the picture.
3: I have heard that there will be a change that will allow people to create a custom wake up phrase? That would be great
4: Since I have the fingerprint scanner, I do not want to use the pin or any other screen lock. Is there a way to turn these features off and simply used the fingerprint scanner?
Thanks again, thanks for your patience while I Noob out on this new product.
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I guess you are on miui? miui is not really google-smart-lock friendly, and i think not all smart-lock features are supported by miui. you could install some miui-xposed modules or you should try out a custom rom like omni or rr then all your problems are gone.
You can voice unlock your phone, but your screen must be on. You cant unlock your phone while locked + screen off with your voice.
Taking a picture by voice is working for me without any problems, but i guess this is because i am on a custom rom.
You could remove your pin/pattern by deleting some files in twrp, but this is not recommended at all. Its always better to have a backup for your fingerprint and you dont need to use your pin at all anyway, since you just put your finger on the sensor and it will unlock your phone without a pin/pattern.
If you dont want to unlock/root your phone then you have to live with some missing features i guess, but you should give Android Auto a try, if you use your phone alot while driving.
Hi there
I just switched from a Asus Zenfone 5z which has a dedicated fingerprint sensor. So one touch and you ard on home screen.
Now the fingerprint sensor on Note 10 + is slow, also the fact that one has to first click the side key and then put the finger on the screen and seemingly wait for 2 sec.
It is nowhere near as fast as the zenfone 5z.
Have you guys got any better solution or idea to unlock it fast.
Thank you for your time.
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Hi there
I just switched from a Asus Zenfone 5z which has a dedicated fingerprint sensor. So one touch and you ard on home screen.
Now the fingerprint sensor on Note 10 + is slow, also the fact that one has to first click the side key and then put the finger on the screen and seemingly wait for 2 sec.
It is nowhere near as fast as the zenfone 5z.
Have you guys got any better solution or idea to unlock it fast.
Thank you for your time.
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You don't exactly have to turn on phone to use fingerprint reader.
If you know the position of fingerprint reader then putting your finger there would turn on and unlock phone. But that would be if you can get it on right position. If not it would tell you and then you can readjust as it will then show you.
Other option would be to have always on display and would show position of fingerprint reader.
You can also double tap to wake up phone as well. Then go through same process.
Hope some others could add more but these has been what I've found out with my usage.
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Enable the gesture "lift to wake"
Enable "always on display" so that you always see the finger print location.
What ever finger you use most for the finger print, scan it for 2 spots out of the 4 available. So I have my left thumb for 1, right pointer for 2, and right Thumb for 3 and 4. My right thumb is now always solidly fast.
DaPoets said:
Enable the gesture "lift to wake"
Enable "always on display" so that you always see the finger print location.
What ever finger you use most for the finger print, scan it for 2 spots out of the 4 available. So I have my left thumb for 1, right pointer for 2, and right Thumb for 3 and 4. My right thumb is now always solidly fast.
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1. Please clarify : Do you mean to register the same right thumb twice to increase accuracy of the right thumb, as that is what I mostly use.
2. Currently always on display is set as tap to show.
Does making it always show have any significant reduction in battery.
And that you for your time, you are very helpfull.
lmanlo said:
You don't exactly have to turn on phone to use fingerprint reader.
If you know the position of fingerprint reader then putting your finger there would turn on and unlock phone. But that would be if you can get it on right position. If not it would tell you and then you can readjust as it will then show you.
Other option would be to have always on display and would show position of fingerprint reader.
You can also double tap to wake up phone as well. Then go through same process.
Hope some others could add more but these has been what I've found out with my usage.
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Didn't even know that I had to just press the locked screen.
Also thank you for recommending the lift to wake up gesture, has increased the speed a lot.
Still wondering if I can use NFC to keep it unlocked as it is always kept on a phone stand.
Many thanks for your time.
NEERO said:
Didn't even know that I had to just press the locked screen.
Also thank you for recommending the lift to wake up gesture, has increased the speed a lot.
Still wondering if I can use NFC to keep it unlocked as it is always kept on a phone stand.
Many thanks for your time.
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You can use Smart lock Trusted places under settings-lock screen to keep phone unlocked. You just have to turn on phone then just swipe to go into phone without password but it will lock after a certain timeframe if not used.
lmanlo said:
You can use Smart lock Trusted places under settings-lock screen to keep phone unlocked. You just have to turn on phone then just swipe to go into phone without password but it will lock after a certain timeframe if not used.
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I do know about Smart Lock but prefer not to use it as keeping the GPS on does feed the location data to other apps as well, not something I prefer to give away.
Thank you for the recommendation though.
You can register your face as well. It works really fast with lift to wake up gesture.
Smart lock can be used without GPS on, it uses a trusted wifi network to keep the phone unlocked or, if you have one a bluetooth speaker...
Don't need GPS at all...
Another vote for smart lock but with a wearable like a wear os watch. I pretty much never have to unlock my phone.
In case helpful to someone else, I enabled the increase touch sensitivity setting under Display settings and the fingerprint seems to work much quicker as I don't have to press down harder.
NEERO said:
1. Please clarify : Do you mean to register the same right thumb twice to increase accuracy of the right thumb, as that is what I mostly use.
2. Currently always on display is set as tap to show.
Does making it always show have any significant reduction in battery.
And that you for your time, you are very helpfull.
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#1 YES
#2 It's a 4300mah battery, the AOD doesn't even dent it.
Happy to help!
I have AOD set to always on, and it is super easy to unlock.
I pick up the phone, hold my thumb on the sensor and it is unlocked instantly. I don't see how it could get any better than that!
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Smart lock can be used without GPS on, it uses a trusted wifi network to keep the phone unlocked or, if you have one a bluetooth speaker...
Don't need GPS at all...
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Hi, I did turn it on after reading your post, enabled my location with GPS off and wifi connected but it doesn't work.
Is there anything special I need to do in this regard.
Thanks
sansnil said:
In case helpful to someone else, I enabled the increase touch sensitivity setting under Display settings and the fingerprint seems to work much quicker as I don't have to press down harder.
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Yes I turned ut on as well as the phone comes with a factory applied screen protector and that is what that setting seems to be for. Should have been on by default.
Good day.
I am wondering, if anyone knows where to enable pocket mode or, if there is some alternative on Poco F3? I do not want to have 'press and unlock' with fingerprint, but everytime, when I have it in pocket and put my hand into the pocket - the phone unlocks and I open every app, call everyone ... Even though all sensors are covered.
Any one have any solution to that?
Thank you in advance.
i think the only way to prevent this is by not using "tap to unlock" on the fingerprint sensor. This way you have to willingly press the lock button to unlock the phone
proximity sensor of Poco F3 is very pathetic
I owned Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro before, which also has an on-screen fingerprint reader. One very neat feature of it was that you could just press your finger on where the reader is when the screen is off -- the phone springs up already unlocked.
On P6P I need to either press a button or tap first to turn the screen on. Only then can I press the finger to scan.
Is this configurable somewhere or maybe moddable?
The phone should awake automatically, once you grab the phone - as long as you have AoD enabled.
My use case is often to unlock the phone just lying on the table without grabbing or moving it. It indeed reacts to me when grabbing, but it would be nice to just press on the sensor and have it unlocked.
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My use case is often to unlock the phone just lying on the table without grabbing or moving it. It indeed reacts to me when grabbing, but it would be nice to just press on the sensor and have it unlocked.
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Again, as long as you have AoD enabled, the phone will wake the FP the moment you touch the sensor. I just tried it out a couple of times myself. The phone is lying flat on it's back, AoD is on (FP symbol is active above the battery % at the bottom) and I just lay my finger on the scanner and it unlocks, without having to move the phone, take it in my hand or anything like that.
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Again, as long as you have AoD enabled, the phone will wake the FP the moment you touch the sensor. I just tried it out a couple of times myself. The phone is lying flat on it's back, AoD is on (FP symbol is active above the battery % at the bottom) and I just lay my finger on the scanner and it unlocks, without having to move the phone, take it in my hand or anything like that.
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Even with AOD off you can select tap to check under gestures and a slight tap will wake the phone for the FPR.
Sorry, you are right -- I didn't have AoD enabled before (I messed up what AoD means ). Still, this is not quite the same feature I used to have:
* AoD drains battery and I don't like the screen being always on;
* Tap to Check works, but you need to do this additional tap (then up the finger and press on the reader). Just placing your finger on top of fingerprint reader and having the phone unlocked was more convenient. It's also kinda slow -- if you just quickly tap and then place your finger on the reader, it often won't work (the screen won't light up or the reader won't start).
Guess there's no such functionality at the moment, so I'll continue using Tap to Check.
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Sorry, you are right -- I didn't have AoD enabled before (I messed up what AoD means ). Still, this is not quite the same feature I used to have:
* AoD drains battery and I don't like the screen being always on;
* Tap to Check works, but you need to do this additional tap (then up the finger and press on the reader). Just placing your finger on top of fingerprint reader and having the phone unlocked was more convenient. It's also kinda slow -- if you just quickly tap and then place your finger on the reader, it often won't work (the screen won't light up or the reader won't start).
Guess there's no such functionality at the moment, so I'll continue using Tap to Check.
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You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
AOD uses 6% battery for me over the course of 24 hrs. To me the convenience of the notifications and FPS make this more than reasonable.
Unless you have an unreliable electricity supply and you have to meticulously control your battery I can't see it having any meaningful impact.
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AOD uses 6% battery for me over the course of 24 hrs. To me the convenience of the notifications and FPS make this more than reasonable.
Unless you have an unreliable electricity supply and you have to meticulously control your battery I can't see it having any meaningful impact.
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Interesting! I do have such times (during travels and/or long hikes), but that's still less than I expected. Perhaps I'll give it a try.
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You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
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AODNotify implements exactly what I was looking for! Thanks I'll monitor its effect on the battery.
abbradar said:
AODNotify implements exactly what I was looking for! Thanks I'll monitor its effect on the battery.
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Awesome! You're welcome!
roirraW edor ehT said:
You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
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Is there a thread or group for AODNotify to ask questions so I don't go OT here? I just installed it and I like it so far. Obviously I'll have to pay for it once I decide to keep it but the adb commands you speak of, is there a way to turn them off if you decide to? And when you say AOD minimal on screen, what do you mean? Ok so I went OT for a bit.
bobby janow said:
Is there a thread or group for AODNotify to ask questions so I don't go OT here? I just installed it and I like it so far. Obviously I'll have to pay for it once I decide to keep it but the adb commands you speak of, is there a way to turn them off if you decide to? And when you say AOD minimal on screen, what do you mean? Ok so I went OT for a bit.
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Right here in this section. https://forum.xda-developers.com/se...c[nodes][0]=12313&c[title_only]=1&o=relevance
I'll reply with the rest of the answers in that thread.
abbradar said:
Sorry, you are right -- I didn't have AoD enabled before (I messed up what AoD means ). Still, this is not quite the same feature I used to have:
* AoD drains battery and I don't like the screen being always on;
* Tap to Check works, but you need to do this additional tap (then up the finger and press on the reader). Just placing your finger on top of fingerprint reader and having the phone unlocked was more convenient. It's also kinda slow -- if you just quickly tap and then place your finger on the reader, it often won't work (the screen won't light up or the reader won't start).
Guess there's no such functionality at the moment, so I'll continue using Tap to Check.
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Bro, I was wondering why it would only work after I tapped the screen. Once the screen is on it works on the 1st try Everytime! I don't like AoD either... Guess I'll keep tapping the screen...
iLLdWes said:
Bro, I was wondering why it would only work after I tapped the screen. Once the screen is on it works on the 1st try Everytime! I don't like AoD either... Guess I'll keep tapping the screen...
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Or use AODNotify, like I linked to (in this section) in the post above yours. Enable two options and still technically have AOD on but you won't ever see it unless you get a notification, and even that is minimized.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Or use AODNotify, like I linked to (in this section) in the post above yours. Enable two options and still technically have AOD on but you won't ever see it unless you get a notification, and even that is minimized.
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Yes, I was looking at that and it actually looks pretty cool... Thanks man ..
abbradar said:
I owned Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro before, which also has an on-screen fingerprint reader. One very neat feature of it was that you could just press your finger on where the reader is when the screen is off -- the phone springs up already unlocked.
On P6P I need to either press a button or tap first to turn the screen on. Only then can I press the finger to scan.
Is this configurable somewhere or maybe moddable?
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I too had the same phone but it was named as Redmi K20 pro that has this fingerprint scanner that works even when the display is off. But not on this new Pixel 6 pro, I think google should make use of that feature!!
roirraW edor ehT said:
Or use AODNotify, like I linked to (in this section) in the post above yours. Enable two options and still technically have AOD on but you won't ever see it unless you get a notification, and even that is minimized.
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Which two options do I have to enable in AODNotify? I'm not sure what you mean.
Many thanks in advance!
AR155 said:
Which two options do I have to enable in AODNotify? I'm not sure what you mean.
Many thanks in advance!
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AODNotify Settings / General / at the top choose "Don't show", and at the bottom, after you do the necessary ADB command, choose "Power saving mode".
OP originally asked if there's a way to have the fingerprint scanner function while the screen is off, and that's till what I want. Is that possible? I don't like AOD or pick up to wake or tap to wake, I like my screen to be off and then I like it to be unlocked and I don't like anything in between, or any delay in unlocking that can be avoided.
roirraW edor ehT said:
You could use AODNotify, which, besides giving useful notification features since we don't have a notification light on this P6P, also has two options, and I use both: 1) To completely minimize AOD, so it at minimum doesn't show as much on the screen, and 2) there's an option in AODNotify you can enable with ADB for an experimental low power mode, which effectively turns off AOD unless there's a notification that activates AODNotify.
I use it this way and I use the fingerprint reader with the screen completely off all the time.
There are other but potentially more complex solutions others have used here regarding automation apps like Tasker. If you search the P6P section for mentions of Tasker, then you'd probably find details reasonably fast if you were interested in going down that road.
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Where can one find AODNotify?
DanHakimi said:
OP originally asked if there's a way to have the fingerprint scanner function while the screen is off, and that's till what I want. Is that possible? I don't like AOD or pick up to wake or tap to wake, I like my screen to be off and then I like it to be unlocked and I don't like anything in between, or any delay in unlocking that can be avoided.
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With AODNotify's options enabled, the screen is fully off and then when I use the fingerprint reader - obviously the reader area of the screen lights up because it needs to, but then it goes directly to unlocked.
DanHakimi said:
Where can one find AODNotify?
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Play Store. For me, the second search result from the left is the one for the Pixel (the first one on the left is for Samsung). Good luck!
There is also a thread for AODNotify for Pixel by the devleoper in this section.