Does anyone know if the charger poco f3 comes with supports quick charge 3+ that the phone also supports?
Not sure I follow your question.
The stock charger support quick charge 3.0+, the chipset support quick charge 5, but the phone charging is limited to 33w.
Nemix77 said:
Not sure I follow your question.
The stock charger support quick charge 3.0+, the chipset support quick charge 5, but the phone charging is limited to 33w.
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The phone comes as 33w quick charge 3+. My question was whether the 33w charger in the phone box charges with the quick charge 3+ protocol. I cant say it more simply than that.
When checked via CIT hardware test, it shows PD protocol.
Nemix77 said:
When checked via CIT hardware test, it shows PD protocol.
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Whats PD?
Pd is power delivery
I think the charger attached is using everything poco f3 is capable. Very fast charging speed.
From what I heard from another thread the Poco F3 has a usb 2 port with extra pinout for 33W PD communication with the charger
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just found it through a search. From what I read, the QC system pays a royalty to Qualcomm because it is their proprietary technology, while PD is royalty free. The F3 has QC instead of PD. QC is much more efficient and produces less heat when charging a battery from what I read.
In the long run, try to use the QC charger that comes with the F3 to prolong the battery life (i.e. less heat generation while charging - heat's the real battery killer)
Hope this helps someone . . .
qu4k3r said:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I just found it through a search. From what I read, the QC system pays a royalty to Qualcomm because it is their proprietary technology, while PD is royalty free. The F3 has QC instead of PD. QC is much more efficient and produces less heat when charging a battery from what I read.
In the long run, try to use the QC charger that comes with the F3 to prolong the battery life (i.e. less heat generation while charging - heat's the real battery killer)
Hope this helps someone . . .
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I only QC charge my Poco F3 and confirm that is cooler than PD.
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hey there.. as the question goes.. if i have charger branded for QC 3.0/2.0 from qualcomm, will it charge fast the Oneplus 3?
cause SD820 should be embedded with that tech.
If someone can test it, and tell how long it charges.. would be great
xsoft7 said:
hey there.. as the question goes.. if i have charger branded for QC 3.0/2.0 from qualcomm, will it charge fast the Oneplus 3?
cause SD820 should be embedded with that tech.
If someone can test it, and tell how long it charges.. would be great
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You will not get fast charging with a QC charger, only up to ~2A.
OP3 does not support QC.
i currently own OPO, it doesnt have QC enabled, but i do charge at 5V/1A with QC charger.
OP3’s quick charge is VOOC, which belong to OPPO, not support QC
can anyone test to confirm, that at least we'll have 5V/2A?
from gsmarena:
We initially thought that the Rapid charging tech used by Lenovo must be Quick Charge 3.0 since the P2 uses a Qualcomm chipset. However, our third-party QC3.0 charger didn't charge the P2 particularly fast, so the jury is still out on whether Lenovo is using a proprietary charging technology.
so... my car charger and my power bank, BOTH qc 3.0 are useless with this phone??
Our charger is a basic 12V 2A charger, giving a total of 24W Power. I don't see anything special in the charger. It's probably not the usual QC we had heard of. I have seen in some reviews though about this charging technology being different and very interesting.
A problem would be: what charger for the car???
i have the phone and i can confirm it only uses the QC feature with the included CHARGER
no way to use any qc 2/3.0 charger....mmhhh bad decision lenovo!
realista87 said:
i have the phone and i can confirm it only uses the QC feature with the included CHARGER
no way to use any qc 2/3.0 charger....mmhhh bad decision lenovo!
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I don't see your point. This charger outperforms any other chargers in the market even turbo and dash chargers.
Why do you ppl always end up blaming others.
because i am against the proprietary charging algorithms..... dash charge is great? NOPE.... it forces you to use a special cable, a special charger, no 3rd part suppliers... high price of chargers, is it a good move for the customer?
same thing for this lenovo charging solution, ok the fastest one, but if i lose che official charger i am stucked with the NORMAL 5v 2a solution....
this is not a great thing imho, and all power banks i have qith 7/9/12v qc features are USELESS with the lenovo p2......
You're thinking only voltage my friend, check if your power bank can supply 2A at 12V. Probably no. Mostly all power banks bottlenecks at 1.5A.
So, there isn't a way to use another charger for fast charging?
Siva Mk said:
You're thinking only voltage my friend, check if your power bank can supply 2A at 12V. Probably no. Mostly all power banks bottlenecks at 1.5A.
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my xiaomi power bank 2 20000mah does have qc3.0 and it's tested to arrive higher than 2A at 12v ... but even if other chargers are "only" capable to reach 12v at 1,5A ... it is still a missed quick charge because p2 uses proprietary charge coding
ok this is not THEp roblem, but just a con. like for dash charge people repeat at eveyone that oneplus is the fastes... but hey without an available dach charge power bank... that phone is s "joke"
I have another QC3.0 wall charger, when i plug to P2 it's out put at 2A only not fast charge.
But when i plug original charger from P2 to another phone fsst charge status is become.
???
How many times will you open new topic for the same problem ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/accessories/replacement-charger-party-charger-t3662211
Hello Everyone,
I am looking for a dash charger for z2plus , I just used my friends OP5 dash charger for z2 plus it works like a champ. But OP5 dash charger is expensive like 2k, any other suggestions on chargers ??
Thanks in Advacne !
I would say.. don't go for anything except original charger.. it can fry some important diodes on your board and I am not kidding happened to me twice...
First time, battery was empty, and phone never woke up, I had just installed custom rom maybe because of that...
Second, exchanged phone, new phone, stock everything.. and it happened again..
Then I realized it was because of the 3t charger...
Read few posts, and found out if used some qc 3 chargers it can fry the diodes cx68 something..
Better read those post before investing money...
Nonsense! QC tech and Dash Charge tech are totally different. If used, any oneplus dash charger will charge your Z2+ like a normal charger and not any faster. Dash Charge Tech is Oneplus's Proprietary and won't work on any other company phones. And Regard to Best QC3 Chargers, Only and Only buy & use Qualcomm approved QC chargers. They are tested by Qualcomm and will almost never cause any issues. The List of approved chargers can be found on Qualcomm's website.
After buying the Qualcomm Fast charger can this device charge quickly ???
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developer01 said:
After buying the Qualcomm Fast charger can this device charge quickly ???
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The Zuk Z2 plus cannot quick charge (No QC2/QC3), atleast yet. Some say the hardware isn't present in the device but i believe with the other group that say it's locked in kernel. In the Fans page, a dev has posted a mod to enable QC 9V charging on kernel level. If you or anyone has QC charger feel free to try it (UNDER YOUR OWN RISKS). At Stock Charging Capabilities, the device can charge with 5.25V 2.5A max. You don't need QC chargers for this, the lenovo charger that comes in box is more than enough.
zukfans.eu/ community/ threads/ request-quick-charge-support-qc-3-0.2526/
1.5A on screen en 2.5A off screen all by 5V are the best charge number the z2 plus can do, so it does charge good but it's doesn't benefit from a dash or quickcharger like one plus phones do.
Quickcharging is charging at higher voltages for the same or sometimes even more amps. and since A*V= Watts you put more and faster the power in your battery
Is this one Tenker, 60W Adapter with PD/QC4.0 truly quick charge 4.0 certified or just QC 4.0 compatible?
What QC 4.0 chrager would you advice?
I'd prefer one with 3-4 USB ports, capable of charging 3 phones/tablets at once
I suggest you check out the Razer charger. They are a very trusted, high end company.
Razer Wall Charger for Phone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B077968S1F/
This phone supports QC 4.0? I looked on official LG site and it only says 3.0.
id3alistic said:
This phone supports QC 4.0? I looked on official LG site and it only says 3.0.
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https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
id3alistic said:
This phone supports QC 4.0? I looked on official LG site and it only says 3.0.
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Correct, but it supports QC4.0 (as confirmed by others). May be two possible reasons 1) Bad marketing 2) The included charger is only QC3.0 (Why LG, why...its you flagship phone, show some respect and love)
It says
"These devices contain the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 4/4+. It is at the device manufacturer’s
discretion to fully enable this feature."
I do hope it's enabled by default.
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Correct, but it supports QC4.0 (as confirmed by others). May be two possible reasons 1) Bad marketing 2) The included charger is only QC3.0 (Why LG, why...its you flagship phone, show some respect and love)
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Well QC4.0 chargers are almost none existant, that's why
A better QC 3.0 charger than the original (with more amps / 12 volt) can decrease charging time?
Hi
Has anyone tried this charger ?
I did not find any Videos on Youtube or orther sites selling it
What got me Interested in this charger was it has 2 Usb ports
1 of QC 3.0 & orther of QC 4.0
do not know if it works
See it here -
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB...e946-4a73-b356-c931053a86c8&priceBeautifyAB=0
Cheaper at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BS8LXW9/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w?th=1
Found One more -
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...fkmr1&keywords=Huawei+QC+4.0+Charger+60w+dual
Seems by Next year we will have QC 4.0
Usb Quick Charge 4 ports
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BNG29CG/ref=pd_luc_rh_sspa_dk_huc_pt_sub_1?psc=1
Please Share if you get any Info on this or any Similar DUAL Quick Charger like this
Thanks
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It says
"These devices contain the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 4/4+. It is at the device manufacturer’s
discretion to fully enable this feature."
I do hope it's enabled by default.
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Yeah the 845 supports it but i dont think LG has enabled it in firmware.
Im just excited we have fast wireless charging thats useable.
Kind of like bands, the radio will do them all but most are firmware specific.
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before buy qc 4.0 charger i think the first step is create a mod that enable quickcharge when screen is on and possibility of increase max charging current to 3 amp
notice that when screen is on max current is around 1A and when is off is around 2.2A
so i think is useless buy an expensive charger when the firmware is limited to these values
darix96 said:
before buy qc 4.0 charger i think the first step is create a mod that enable quickcharge when screen is on and possibility of increase max charging current to 3 amp
notice that when screen is on max current is around 1A and when is off is around 2.2A
so i think is useless buy an expensive charger when the firmware is limited to these values
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Exactly, we need a custom kernel to have the charging amperes to be changed manually which is really cool. If we have a really cool custom kernel, the CPU governors should preset customisable governors (for smooth performance) and for the charge values, just look for a 3A charger, with the Kernel Adiutor change the values. Meaning the benefits of rooting gives us the complete freedom of our Android! If a 4A charger is detected by the kernel manager app, the charge values should show as "upto 4A even with the screen on! Then no need to be jealous of Dash Charging of One Plus!
so... if u bought a quick charge 4.0 brick... will it charge the g7 faster than QC 3.0?
akshaythakor said:
so... if u bought a quick charge 4.0 brick... will it charge the g7 faster than QC 3.0?
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BTT....I'd like to know this too.
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before buy qc 4.0 charger i think the first step is create a mod that enable quickcharge when screen is on and possibility of increase max charging current to 3 amp
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Why? So G7 could pave the ways of Galaxy Note 7 and if not burn in flames then at least loose 50% of battery capacity in half a year? Sorry I'm not enlisting to shoot myself in the foot and throw expensive $700 phone in half a year to garbage can just because
Quick Charge 4.0 doesn't bump currents to 3A, it's not working that way. It bumps voltages to 20V instead
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Why? So G7 could pave the ways of Galaxy Note 7 and if not burn in flames then at least loose 50% of battery capacity in half a year? Sorry I'm not enlisting to shoot myself in the foot and throw expensive $700 phone in half a year to garbage can just because
Quick Charge 4.0 doesn't bump currents to 3A, it's not working that way. It bumps voltages to 20V instead
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Yes, and no, i think the only one "problem" (or protection?) is the limit at 1 amp when the screen is unlocked, 20 volt i think isn't so useful if we use a good usb cable
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Yes, and no, i think the only one "problem" (or protection?) is the limit at 1 amp when the screen is unlocked, 20 volt i think isn't so useful if we use a good usb cable
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But, even Samsung said and officially stated that after Note 7 fiasco they made same limit of 1A when screen is unlocked to prevent fast battery degrading. Samsung knows better then XDA uses, I think
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Why? So G7 could pave the ways of Galaxy Note 7 and if not burn in flames then at least loose 50% of battery capacity in half a year? Sorry I'm not enlisting to shoot myself in the foot and throw expensive $700 phone in half a year to garbage can just because
Quick Charge 4.0 doesn't bump currents to 3A, it's not working that way. It bumps voltages to 20V instead
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It's not 20 volts. That's way too much for a battery. It's actually 9v + 2 amps. 20v it's mostly for Tables i think.
LameMonster82 said:
It's not 20 volts. That's way too much for a battery. It's actually 9v + 2 amps. 20v it's mostly for Tables i think.
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9 Volts isn't even Quick Charge 3.0, it's legacy QC 2.0.
QC 3.0 & 4.0 compatible phones can get charged from 20V, 12V, 9V and 5V
This is the one I use:
https://www.aukey.com/products/quick-charge-3-0-wall-charger-pa-t9
But if I plan ahead, I try not to use it very often. It works well, it's just that the long-term health of my battery benefits from slower charging.
Guys, I bought this Wireless Charger Pad Slim EP-P1100T, to use on my Note 10 Plus, the information says it has a fast charge, but when I put my device on it, fast charge information does not appear even though it is enabled on the cell phone, is it really so? Android 10 does not show the message?
I think you should use Quick charge 3.0 charging head not the samsung 25w head with it , anyway even if you use the suitable charger with it Note 10 plus automatically shut off fast wireless charging when using slim pad for more that 20% of fast charging because of heat issues since slim charging pads don't have cooling fans and they heat up very quickly
I have one of these also, the only fast charger that enables fast charge with that wireless charger is my old Note 9 charger, it provides the 18w QC2.0 the wireless charger needs.
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I have one of these also, the only fast charger that enables fast charge with that wireless charger is my old Note 9 charger, it provides the 18w QC2.0 the wireless charger needs.
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I'm using the charger that came with Note 10 + ...
Is that why the phone doesn't charge fast charge with the pad?
Hades said:
I'm using the charger that came with Note 10 + ...
Is that why the phone doesn't charge fast charge with the pad?
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Yes, this charger was designed for the previous generation of phones (S9, Note9 ect) which included a compatible charger. Samsung confirms this here: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...nes/wireless-charger-pad-slim-ep-p1100bbegww/
Samsung doesn't use Quick Charge technology since it's a Qualcomm only feature and Samsung uses its own chipset which isn't Snapdragon.
Instead, it uses Power Delivery which is a standard and better in all aspects.
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Samsung doesn't use Quick Charge technology since it's a Qualcomm only feature and Samsung uses its own chipset which isn't Snapdragon.
Instead, it uses Power Delivery which is a standard and better in all aspects.
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That's not entirely true, Samsung definitely do sell phones with the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC and the 15W charging on most of their previous phones (S6, S7, S8 and S9 generations) was QC2.0 or QC2.0 compatible. This is why I am able to fast charge my Exynos Note 9 at full 15W with a QC3.0 charger.
USB Power Delivery is good but it's just another charging protocol, later versions of Qualcomm Quick Charge are also USB-PD compatible.
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That's not entirely true, Samsung definitely do sell phones with the Qualcomm Snapdragon SOC and the 15W charging on most of their previous phones (S6, S7, S8 and S9 generations) was QC2.0 or QC2.0 compatible. This is why I am able to fast charge my Exynos Note 9 at full 15W with a QC3.0 charger.
USB Power Delivery is good but it's just another charging protocol, later versions of Qualcomm Quick Charge are also USB-PD compatible.
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That's right it is, but there's more.
It's not just an other charging protocol, it's an USB standard, that's means all USB ports will have it by default.
Quick charge is proprietary licensed and will be dead soon because there's no use of paying licence for nothing.
And it's not the same at all. Power Delivery is made for dynamically adjusting current intensity and tension depending of the device you plug in and battery level, for them to take only what it needs.
Quick charge isn't, that's why you need dedicated QC ports on chargers.
It's easy for QC to be "compliant" if it shares one similar spec, but it's useless since all next USB ports will use USB-PD.
And that how it worked before, with fast charging, you only had to take in consideration that the output specs and the chargers is equal or higher to the input specs of the battery to get fast charge, but it's risky for the battery.
It may appear silly, but for efficiency and durability, lithium ion battery should not be charged at the same current and intensity at all levels and that's at least one reason why it's important.
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That's right it is, but there's more.
It's not just an other charging protocol, it's an USB standard, that's means all USB ports will have it by default.
Quick charge is proprietary licensed and will be dead soon because there's no use of paying licence for nothing.
And it's not the same at all. Power Delivery is made for dynamically adjusting current intensity and tension depending of the device you plug in and battery level, for them to take only what it needs.
Quick charge isn't, that's why you need dedicated QC ports on chargers.
It's easy for QC to be "compliant" if it shares one similar spec, but it's useless since all next USB ports will use USB-PD.
And that how it worked before, with fast charging, you only had to take in consideration that the output specs and the chargers is equal or higher to the input specs of the battery to get fast charge, but it's risky for the battery.
It may appear silly, but for efficiency and durability, lithium ion battery should not be charged at the same current and intensity at all levels and that's at least one reason why it's important.
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I disagree but there doesn't seem to be any point in telling you that you're wrong.