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Live Tile Debacle

So, I finally hit my first problem, and I think I have T-Mobile to blame. A couple of days ago, TMo had massive issues here in Miami. The phones were reading you had full 3G signal, but the moment you even tapped on the phones, the signal dropped and died for about an hour at a time. Ever since then, none of my livetiles which use background agents as opposed to push have updated (with the exception of WeatherLive, but the backside won't update). I can tell when this began happening because of the last timestamp stuck on the tile. I've tried everything from uninstalling, to killing the tasks in the settings or app, everything. Won't update over WiFi either. I really don't want to experiment here and hard reset, so have any of you had your non-push tiles
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Stop working? Sorry, board express sucks tremendously.
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Might sound obvious but you have tried a restart?

brummiesteven said:
Might sound obvious but you have tried a restart?
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Multiple restarts, battery pulls, I've turned every connection on and off, uninstalled and reinstalled every app, forced off the agents in settings and turned them back on, turned them off/on from within the app, etc...
I'm 99.9% positive that the issue T-Mobile had caused this, I mean, it was bad. It caused my girlfriend's myTouch4G to run out of battery in an hour and 45 minutes.... I'm assuming because it was probably hammering to get a signal. I'm pretty sure we have other Miami users here who can tell you how bad it was. But, now NONE will update, unless the app updates when I open it, and it's really, really starting to piss me off.

FiyaFleye said:
Multiple restarts, battery pulls, I've turned every connection on and off, uninstalled and reinstalled every app, forced off the agents in settings and turned them back on, turned them off/on from within the app, etc...
I'm 99.9% positive that the issue T-Mobile had caused this, I mean, it was bad. It caused my girlfriend's myTouch4G to run out of battery in an hour and 45 minutes.... I'm assuming because it was probably hammering to get a signal. I'm pretty sure we have other Miami users here who can tell you how bad it was. But, now NONE will update, unless the app updates when I open it, and it's really, really starting to piss me off.
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Could mean there's still an outage in your are? I recently had a tower problem for two months and who knows how much longer had I not noticed the drop in data speeds. Anyways, during that time when it was dropping in between EVDO and 1X, certain apps of mine wouldn't update because it'd take forever to pull the data or it'd time out.
So while call wise you're okay, data wise you might be outta luck? I'd call T-Mo and ask.

Something went wrong because everyone calling me went straight to voicemail....

It sounds like something during the network outage may have caused your registry to become corrupted (although I'm at a loss to say how that could happen). I'm afraid you may have to do a hard reset.

ScottSUmmers said:
Could mean there's still an outage in your are? I recently had a tower problem for two months and who knows how much longer had I not noticed the drop in data speeds. Anyways, during that time when it was dropping in between EVDO and 1X, certain apps of mine wouldn't update because it'd take forever to pull the data or it'd time out.
So while call wise you're okay, data wise you might be outta luck? I'd call T-Mo and ask.
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I thought about that, but I left the phone connected to WiFi for a total of ten hours, and none of them updated. And the tiles (like 4th & Mayor) which update through push are working, which is driving me INSANE lol.
RoboDad said:
It sounds like something during the network outage may have caused your registry to become corrupted (although I'm at a loss to say how that could happen). I'm afraid you may have to do a hard reset.
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Yeah, that's really the main thing I'm trying to figure out, too. If I could somehow figure out what caused it, maybe we can prevent this in the future. My only guess is they somehow got jammed up due to the confusion. The phone literally acted as though it had full signal, until I physically did something that required signal (make a call, send a text, get online) and then it would drop out immediately. It wasn't only me. My office has a Vibrant, iPhone 4, and my HD7 on the T-Mobile network, and all three acted the same that day. It was horrible, I almost walked to AT&T and switched over, it was THAT bad, lol. A part of me is hoping they magically start working, because a hard reset at this point would be a *****. On the plus side, it would probably fix my Visual Voicemail issue -.-

It looks like it's definitely screwed, front of tiles are updating, backs aren't
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FiyaFleye said:
It looks like it's definitely screwed, front of tiles are updating, backs aren't
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That sucks man. Any chance your phone is unlocked and you can edit the registry?

ScottSUmmers said:
That sucks man. Any chance your phone is unlocked and you can edit the registry?
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It is, and yes

I restored to my Dec 8th backup, and now everything is perfect. The phone was even behaving funny, no idea what the hell happened
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Cool! I didn't even think to ask if you had a recent backup, but that works just as well as a reset or regedit at fixing a corrupt registry. You end up losing a few things, but not nearly as much as a reset would cause.

I tried the reset before the restore to see if it fixed my VVM always on speaker lol, it didn't, so restored, thanks for the help though
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[Q] Just got an SIII used to be an iPhone user.

Hello all!
So a couple of days ago I traded my iPhone 4S 32GB for an SIII. So far I am quite delighted. It is a bit overwhelming at first and it's still taking time to adjust. I have heard from Reddit that this community is awesome.
Anyways the trade went fine and made sure the name, ID, and the IMEI checked out. I called AT&T and all I needed to do was get a new SIM card due to data plans. I love the new refreshing look and the sharp colors and resolution. The Super AMOLED display is definitely on par with the retina display.
It's still within return policy so I might be able to exchange it with AT&T. Even though I didn't purchase it, but can I exchange it? I have the white color and would like the blue if possible. I have the receipt.
It runs quite hot when I use it for a while but my 4S was hotter.
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
Thanks

Without rooting is will be hard to backup your apps. However the play store will show you all previously downloaded apps that's you can 're-download.
What I've known to kill my battery is if I have several apps syncing to the phone, from those apps that you downloaded are they free games that might be getting advertisement.
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main reasons for battery drain:
sync
screen on
4g data
so if you have apps that runs in the background a lot and constantly pushes notifications that will kill it.
being on wifi should save it a bit more than 4g

Welcome =)
Hey, Welcome. I trade my 4S for SIII about a month ago, As you said it is a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get used to it, its just great.
As far as app, goes, just install all the apps you had on iPhone. that's where I started it. Evernote, Pandora, iheartradio, flipboard, facebook, twitter...etc. I got most of the app I used everyday on it, so I felt right at home.
Battery also as you said, take a bit of a hit, i used to charge my phone every other day, now i need to do it every night, thats not really a big deal.
I then rooted my phone, installed CM10 Jell bean and it super great, got rid of all the bloatware that came with stock and Google now + porject butter just make thing so much much easier =).
I always had my iPhone jailbroken so rooting and installing custom rom is not a estrange thing to me, if you are not technical and rather stay in stock, just don't mess with it.

Bronos said:
Hello alooking forward l!
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
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A bad signal quality can decrease batter life, have a good reception. Close unopen apps, dim down the screen brightness.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
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You can root it anyway, i cant think of any "system checks" per se. if you think its acting up, do a factory reset
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
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None i can think of besides discharging your battery to around 20% than fully charge your battery, do this about 3 times. Called battery conditioning.
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
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All your apps are tied to your google account. When you sign in again to google on your phone after a factory reset apps will start downloading. Make sure you are syncing to google.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
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Colors are not interchangeable, thats why samsung specifically sells two different colors. If you are feeling like a brave one, you can buy the shell online and rip the phone apart and change it yourself - this is the unofficial route though.

m82a1 said:
A bad sireply. I uality can decrease batter life, have a good reception. Close unopen apps, dim down the screen brightness.
You can root it anyway, i cant think of any "system checks" per se. if you think its acting up, do a factory reset
None i can think of besides discharging your battery to around 20% than fully charge your battery, do this about 3 times. Called battery conditioning.
All your apps are tied to your google account. When you sign in again to google on your phone after a factory reset apps will start downloading. Make sure you are syncing to google.
Colors are not interchangeable, thats why samsung specifically sells two different colors. If you are feeling like a brave one, you can buy the shell online and rip the phone apart and change it yourself - this is the unofficial route though.
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Hey guys thanks for the fast reply I will do factory reset later as I setup a lot already. What bloatware can I delete that AT&T gave me?

Bronos said:
Hey guys thanks for the fast reply I will do factory reset later as I setup a lot already. What bloatware can I delete that AT&T gave me?
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Just curious, what but why are you planning to factory reset??

werked said:
Just curious, what but why are you planning to factory reset??
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Sorry typo... I am not doing factory reset.

Bronos said:
Hello all!
So a couple of days ago I traded my iPhone 4S 32GB for an SIII. So far I am quite delighted. It is a bit overwhelming at first and it's still taking time to adjust. I have heard from Reddit that this community is awesome.
Anyways the trade went fine and made sure the name, ID, and the IMEI checked out. I called AT&T and all I needed to do was get a new SIM card due to data plans. I love the new refreshing look and the sharp colors and resolution. The Super AMOLED display is definitely on par with the retina display.
It's still within return policy so I might be able to exchange it with AT&T. Even though I didn't purchase it, but can I exchange it? I have the white color and would like the blue if possible. I have the receipt.
It runs quite hot when I use it for a while but my 4S was hotter.
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
Thanks
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running the bell version of jb I get 4 hours screen time, 2 hours talk time and 16 hours up time. Nothing special done, just debloated. I never use WiFi either, always on mobile data. Haven't had the same luck with the t mobile version though.
On stock,I would get about 2.5 hr screen, 1.5 talk and about 16hr screen.
These numbers of course are not always the case, but I check everyday at the end of the day and they are almost always pretty close, obviously if your usage varies, than do still your battery life. They have been days where I get 24 hr+ up time and then others where I have gotten 10. Either way, far better than any iPhone I have had (had then all but the 4s)
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try the LCDTest to check if things are working properly
go into dialer and enter *#0*#. there's various tests you can do to make sure everything is working as it should. to go back from a test, either tap the screen or press back button twice in some cases.

Bronos said:
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
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Turn off auto brightness and keep it dimmer. In doors I usually have my brightness at around 25% or 35% and this is more than enough for me. Obviously turn it up if going outside.
Turn off syncs you don't want. I saw that you mentioned that you are on at&t and by default it has pictures to sync with picasa. Turn this off as it'll KILL your data, it'll be uploading your pictures all the time and with cameras getting higher and higher resolutions they make larger and larger files.
Some people say that juice defender is a good app to use to save battery. Personally I never liked apps like it that turn off data/wifi when my phone screen is off because for me it usually takes too long to turn those back on.
Stay away from auto task killers.
Bronos said:
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
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No real tests that you need to run.
Bronos said:
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
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Can't think of any major settings that are a must to run. I would advise not to use the power saver mode that comes with stock as that thing made my phone a piece of ****.
Bronos said:
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
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Can't think of any major streaming music services that are exclusive to android. There is google play that gives you the option to upload your music from your computer to their cloud and then it'll stream your music to any device you want. I'd say download whatever apps you enjoyed on your iphone as many are on android as well. If you can't find an app do a google search for an equivalent on android.
Bronos said:
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
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After a factory reset when setting the phone up, it should give the option to have the phone backed up with google. If this is checked whenever you finish the setup it'll start to download the apps you had. I can't remember off the top of my head but I did see a method on XDA front page several weeks ago that gave information on how to back up your apps without rooting, might want to look into that if you don't want to root.
Bronos said:
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
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There is no easy way to go from white to blue as they are part of the case of the phone. The only way to change without going to the store for an exchange is to rip your phone apart which I would advise doing. There are plenty of protective cases to choose from though.
Bronos said:
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
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Don't know if it is still around but there was a tips and tricks thread for the S3
Things I can think off of the top of my head:
Swiping the side of your hand(think ninja chop) across your screen will take a screen shot.
Disabling s-voice from using the home button double press will make your home button return you to your home screen faster.
Bronos said:
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
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Buy a screen protector is the only bit of advise I can give you.
With all that being said, if you really want to increase battery life I'd advise rooting. This'll give you access to cpu control apps. The s3 is the first phone I've seen which has a cpu governor set to default at performance. The cpu governor is what determines how your cpu will scale it's speeds, ie going from 300 mhz to 500 to 1500 etc. The performance governor will only allow two speeds, the lowest speed and the max speed. This makes your phone very snappy but isn't battery efficient. A cpu app like set spu or voltage control will allow you to change your governor to something that is more kind to your battery.
Feel free to look through the forums for other apps you might want or info. If you're feeling really confident I'd advise trying a custom kernel or custom rom as they'll open up a whole new world to you, just make sure you research on how to recover your phone from a softbrick/return it to stock. I'd also like to suggest you make a nandroid backup of your phone before flashing anything in a custom recovery.
One more thing I would give as advice is to try a different launcher like apex/go launcher ex/nova/adw. These give you themes to modify your phone easily and without root.
I forgot one last thing to add. REDDIT!!!!

Tons of issues, am I the only one?

Okay, here's the list of issues I'm having with no fix found yet. Hopefully I can get help because this is just NOT okay at all...
Precursor info, I'm using the Leather-backed T-Mobile phone. No I will not take it back, screw the $50 restocking BS, I am willing to RMA it though if this is just a lemon phone. I do have the density changed to 540 via adb and NO that's not causing any issues that I'm aware of at all other than stock launcher app drawer looks FUNKY, haha (I use nova so whatever). I had greenery but that's gone now because that's maybe at fault? I don't even know. I did not have these issues on the Note 4 and I used probably 10-15 different ROMs with no problems. Go to G4 and boom a mess of ****. (Pardon my wordage)
-Keyboard, it's got some MASSIVE lag for the hold space to seek, and for the secondary key functions. I mean MASSIVE HUGE lag.
-Volume throttling, this almost never happens, but occasionally it will get REALLY quiet and the only way to fix that is to restart that app (seems to be if I accidentally hit play during a notification it won't leave the ducking level <-- ducking, not the other word, ducking, haha)
-Equalizer, I was using the CM MaxxAudio (AudioFX) with NO issues then randomly today it's not working over bluetooth (when it was yesterday) so I said "oh well, I'll figure it out" only to now have no EQ whatsoever outside of 1. Poweramp (not device-wide so I don't care about it) and 2. the stock app with stock eq (again, not device-wide so don't want that). Every app I add, nothing, no eq changes, absolutely NOTHING. Uninstalled it all, restarted, blah blah, nothing.
-Headphones plugged in are sometimes seen as a headset and they don't have a mic...starts google and then bye bye voice, don't even try, it's looking for a mic that ain't there.
-Missed touches, just seems to me to be user error, I'm used to Samsung and this is LG, a little bit less Glove friendly so any touches have to be a tad heavier, nothing as bad as some people I've seen.
-Device gets HOT for no reason, it's not doing anything special, music is NOT intensive, this also wrecks my battery life...
-Overmodulation for no reason, by this I mean if you max out the audio guess what, it sounds like crap, now why would that be I wonder? Considering it's not amplifying much (My headphone amp solves that problem, but since audio wants to be a whole world of stupid I'm just really at a loss here)
-Just music in general, like why does nothing work right? I'm at my wits end, I've had it for less than a week and EQ is bad, headphones aren't seen right, volume is a mess, heat is a mess (screen off guys, inside, in air-conditioning, it's not right) apps that eq a phone are just poop, is this the T-Mobile update? Did that kill everything? Is this my device? Is it a lemon? Is this DPI? I've never ever seen that do any of these things, and it hasn't been an issue to anything. Issues started mostly today. (Headphones being seen wrong is periodic and not specific to today). someone help me please, I need an EQ, I need my battery back, and I need my phone to stop freaking out.
Should I factory reset and see if that clears things up? Did greenify kill stuff?

I'm tempted to call LG and get some answers from them. This is just NOT okay with me. LOVE the phone, LOVE LOVE LOVE the camera, but man screw this crap. Not good QC at ALLLL....

My G4 is working fine apart from the odd missed touch. Thats all I can say.

Alcor10 said:
Okay, here's the list of issues I'm having with no fix found yet. Hopefully I can get help because this is just NOT okay at all...
Precursor info, I'm using the Leather-backed T-Mobile phone. No I will not take it back, screw the $50 restocking BS, I am willing to RMA it though if this is just a lemon phone. I do have the density changed to 540 via adb and NO that's not causing any issues that I'm aware of at all other than stock launcher app drawer looks FUNKY, haha (I use nova so whatever). I had greenery but that's gone now because that's maybe at fault? I don't even know. I did not have these issues on the Note 4 and I used probably 10-15 different ROMs with no problems. Go to G4 and boom a mess of ****. (Pardon my wordage)
-Keyboard, it's got some MASSIVE lag for the hold space to seek, and for the secondary key functions. I mean MASSIVE HUGE lag.
-Volume throttling, this almost never happens, but occasionally it will get REALLY quiet and the only way to fix that is to restart that app (seems to be if I accidentally hit play during a notification it won't leave the ducking level <-- ducking, not the other word, ducking, haha)
-Equalizer, I was using the CM MaxxAudio (AudioFX) with NO issues then randomly today it's not working over bluetooth (when it was yesterday) so I said "oh well, I'll figure it out" only to now have no EQ whatsoever outside of 1. Poweramp (not device-wide so I don't care about it) and 2. the stock app with stock eq (again, not device-wide so don't want that). Every app I add, nothing, no eq changes, absolutely NOTHING. Uninstalled it all, restarted, blah blah, nothing.
-Headphones plugged in are sometimes seen as a headset and they don't have a mic...starts google and then bye bye voice, don't even try, it's looking for a mic that ain't there.
-Missed touches, just seems to me to be user error, I'm used to Samsung and this is LG, a little bit less Glove friendly so any touches have to be a tad heavier, nothing as bad as some people I've seen.
-Device gets HOT for no reason, it's not doing anything special, music is NOT intensive, this also wrecks my battery life...
-Overmodulation for no reason, by this I mean if you max out the audio guess what, it sounds like crap, now why would that be I wonder? Considering it's not amplifying much (My headphone amp solves that problem, but since audio wants to be a whole world of stupid I'm just really at a loss here)
-Just music in general, like why does nothing work right? I'm at my wits end, I've had it for less than a week and EQ is bad, headphones aren't seen right, volume is a mess, heat is a mess (screen off guys, inside, in air-conditioning, it's not right) apps that eq a phone are just poop, is this the T-Mobile update? Did that kill everything? Is this my device? Is it a lemon? Is this DPI? I've never ever seen that do any of these things, and it hasn't been an issue to anything. Issues started mostly today. (Headphones being seen wrong is periodic and not specific to today). someone help me please, I need an EQ, I need my battery back, and I need my phone to stop freaking out.
Should I factory reset and see if that clears things up? Did greenify kill stuff?
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Probably a lemon, don't have any of those issues especially all at once
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Dennisg34 said:
Probably a lemon, don't have any of those issues especially all at once
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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Well that's just beautiful, will try a reset and see if that helps, otherwise it's time to call T-Mobile/LG

Also got the TMO version with brown leather yesterday. I hear you on the heat issues and it slaughtering the battery, and some missed touches... but not experiencing any of the other issues listed yet...
I'd try a reset. Also, is this an upgrade ( jump or regular upgrade on EIP ) or a new line or did you just buy it outright ? Asking because, other than buying it outright, there shouldn't be a restock fee to exchange within the first 14 days.

T-mobile always charges a restocking fee unless it is an exchange because of a build issue. Coming from Sprint (left them a year ago), that was always disturbing about T-mobile. Sprint had a 30 day return w/o restocking fee, then went to 14 days, and then back up to 30 days.
The only issue I've had was overheating. My phone got really hot doing mundane things and that caused the battery to suffer. I got a replacement from TMO and so far (only been a day), no issues with overheating. But I will have to put it through it's paces over the next few days.

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T-mobile always charges a restocking fee unless it is an exchange because of a build issue. Coming from Sprint (left them a year ago), that was always disturbing about T-mobile. Sprint had a 30 day return w/o restocking fee, then went to 14 days, and then back up to 30 days.
The only issue I've had was overheating. My phone got really hot doing mundane things and that caused the battery to suffer. I got a replacement from TMO and so far (only been a day), no issues with overheating. But I will have to put it through it's paces over the next few days.
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So, did they charge you a re-stock fee ? And did you get another G4 as replacement or a completely different device ?

NO restock fee and yes, I got another G4.

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NO restock fee and yes, I got another G4.
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If I may, what was wrong with the first G4 ? And, is the replacement any better/worse/same ?

Equalizer Im pretty bummed about not able to have a system-wide Equalizer...tried many ..but to no avail.:crying: God I cant wait for root to install a good DSP manager...let me know if you find a working solution to this issue without root.
Keyboard..i find it pretty responsive except for the damn spacebar lag...got to constantly watch what Im writing to ensure proper spacing...hope its resolved by LG
Volume throttling...totally agree..I can see the volume throttle itself back in the status notification...too many times for my liking.
Battery...phone is actually running good and battery is good. Im using a quick charging adapter and the phone gets pretty hot while charging ..im not sure if its gonna wreck/fry my battery as there is no quick charge confirmation from the system..even though LG says its officially supported...
Touch response. I find it ok, like you, except for a few missed touches...notably at double tap to turn on device..sometimes i feel like the upper half of the screen is more responsive to DT2W than the lower half. A bit annoying when I need to access the phone quickly.
Build quality. Not too bad. Device is easy to hold and light. But I have notices that there is creaking of my back cover around the USB port. It almost feels like the back cover isn't secured properly there (not sure if its just my back cover as I don't have any other to try)
Apart from these issues.....loving it.

This phone (downgrade) is going back today. LG screw up this phone.

Alcor10 said:
Okay, here's the list of issues I'm having with no fix found yet. Hopefully I can get help because this is just NOT okay at all...
Precursor info, I'm using the Leather-backed T-Mobile phone. No I will not take it back, screw the $50 restocking BS, I am willing to RMA it though if this is just a lemon phone. I do have the density changed to 540 via adb and NO that's not causing any issues that I'm aware of at all other than stock launcher app drawer looks FUNKY, haha (I use nova so whatever). I had greenery but that's gone now because that's maybe at fault? I don't even know. I did not have these issues on the Note 4 and I used probably 10-15 different ROMs with no problems. Go to G4 and boom a mess of ****. (Pardon my wordage)
-Keyboard, it's got some MASSIVE lag for the hold space to seek, and for the secondary key functions. I mean MASSIVE HUGE lag.
-Volume throttling, this almost never happens, but occasionally it will get REALLY quiet and the only way to fix that is to restart that app (seems to be if I accidentally hit play during a notification it won't leave the ducking level <-- ducking, not the other word, ducking, haha)
-Equalizer, I was using the CM MaxxAudio (AudioFX) with NO issues then randomly today it's not working over bluetooth (when it was yesterday) so I said "oh well, I'll figure it out" only to now have no EQ whatsoever outside of 1. Poweramp (not device-wide so I don't care about it) and 2. the stock app with stock eq (again, not device-wide so don't want that). Every app I add, nothing, no eq changes, absolutely NOTHING. Uninstalled it all, restarted, blah blah, nothing.
-Headphones plugged in are sometimes seen as a headset and they don't have a mic...starts google and then bye bye voice, don't even try, it's looking for a mic that ain't there.
-Missed touches, just seems to me to be user error, I'm used to Samsung and this is LG, a little bit less Glove friendly so any touches have to be a tad heavier, nothing as bad as some people I've seen.
-Device gets HOT for no reason, it's not doing anything special, music is NOT intensive, this also wrecks my battery life...
-Overmodulation for no reason, by this I mean if you max out the audio guess what, it sounds like crap, now why would that be I wonder? Considering it's not amplifying much (My headphone amp solves that problem, but since audio wants to be a whole world of stupid I'm just really at a loss here)
-Just music in general, like why does nothing work right? I'm at my wits end, I've had it for less than a week and EQ is bad, headphones aren't seen right, volume is a mess, heat is a mess (screen off guys, inside, in air-conditioning, it's not right) apps that eq a phone are just poop, is this the T-Mobile update? Did that kill everything? Is this my device? Is it a lemon? Is this DPI? I've never ever seen that do any of these things, and it hasn't been an issue to anything. Issues started mostly today. (Headphones being seen wrong is periodic and not specific to today). someone help me please, I need an EQ, I need my battery back, and I need my phone to stop freaking out.
Should I factory reset and see if that clears things up? Did greenify kill stuff?
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Return it to T-Mobile for another - what are you waiting for? You gotta have a bad one. The system wide EQ is a different issue, and for better or worse it's supposed to be handled by the app. You try another pair of headphones. Some headphones don't play nice, both 3 and 4 pole.

I'm very strongly considering returning mine for a Galaxy S6. The wifi issue alone is infuriating. The touchscreen issue isn't as frustrating as the wifi, but that is definitely a problem too. I have six more days under AT&T's return policy. If a fix isn't found by then, it's gone.
This was my first LG phone, having been a Samsung fan for years. Sadly, they have me questioning that decision to switch. Very disappointing, LG.

M5Rahul said:
If I may, what was wrong with the first G4 ? And, is the replacement any better/worse/same ?
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The phone got incredibly hot >107F doing mundane things like listening to tune-in radio or making a phone call. So far the replacement is much better, but it also updated when I turned it on, so not sure if the update fixed it or the new phone. I'm definitely getting better battery life on the new phone/new update as a cooler battery operates better.

As far as the audio getting quite when you start music or skip tracks during a notification that's not new. It's dependent on the app. Ie Pandora has always done this to me even in nexus 4/5.

the more I use it the more bugs I discover. setting do not stick, that is for sure. wifi goes to sleep, although I selected the option to keep it on when screen off. screen sleeps although I selected the option to never let it go to sleep. camera keeps asking for location although I keep clicking no. Brightness goes to maximum when I reboot the phone, although it was in auto before rebooting it. many annoying things lile that.
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Eric618 said:
I'm very strongly considering returning mine for a Galaxy S6. The wifi issue alone is infuriating. The touchscreen issue isn't as frustrating as the wifi, but that is definitely a problem too. I have six more days under AT&T's return policy. If a fix isn't found by then, it's gone.
This was my first LG phone, having been a Samsung fan for years. Sadly, they have me questioning that decision to switch. Very disappointing, LG.
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if you are ATT or you guys can switch get the samsung GS6 Active 3500 battery*, beautiful beautiful... me too LG first let me DOWN. I have the SG6 Active Wow.:good:

finanandroid said:
if you are ATT or you guys can switch get the samsung GS6 Active 3500 battery*, beautiful beautiful... me too LG first let me DOWN. I have the SG6 Active Wow.:good:
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Wow. I didn't even realize the Active was released yet. I'll have to go check it out in person. Thanks!

finanandroid said:
if you are ATT or you guys can switch get the samsung GS6 Active 3500 battery*, beautiful beautiful... me too LG first let me DOWN. I have the SG6 Active Wow.:good:
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You forgot that the s6 active is ugly as sin. I have no issues with my g4. Sorry you guys are.

Do I keep it or switch it? Need advice

Just bought the G4 on 8/6. I'm going in to return it tomorrow. It gets terribly hot and the finding location icon is constantly flashing. I don't know if I should just swap it for a new G4 or get something else. I know there is a root method but I've heard of it working and causing issues for others. I saw a thread where the My Verizon app was asking for root access. I know you can just freeze it. It stinks that the phone is locked. I'm torn between this phone and the Nexus 6. What would you do?

I'd try finding out what's causing it to get hot; Probably some apps running in the background that don't need to.
Getting root isn't an issue as long as there is a compatible image. What you do with root access could cause issues.
You can disable some of the built-in apps with root (you can do it within FX Explorer + root addon). That should improve performance/increase battery life/reduce heat.

Try using the Cooler app from playstore.

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I'd try finding out what's causing it to get hot; Probably some apps running in the background that don't need to.
Getting root isn't an issue as long as there is a compatible image. What you do with root access could cause issues.
You can disable some of the built-in apps with root (you can do it within FX Explorer + root addon)
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Well honestly, I don't mind that there is no recovery yet. I use root to backup with Titanium, use adblock, and freeze all the Verizon nonsense.
FreedomUser said:
Try using the Cooler app from playstore.
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Is this the app you're talking about? There's a few of them.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster
On a side note, I keep leaning towards the G4. I loved the G2. I'm on Verizon and would pick up the VS986. It comes with 10B I think and then it updates to 11A. If I decide to stay with the G4, should I try rooting before upgrading? I'm almost certain that out of the box, it needs a software update.

Fridge.
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sefirosu0522 said:
Is this the app you're talking about? There's a few of them.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.easyx.coolermaster
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Yes that's the app i'm talking about, but you can use others too, they are same.

sefirosu0522 said:
On a side note, I keep leaning towards the G4. I loved the G2. I'm on Verizon and would pick up the VS986. It comes with 10B I think and then it updates to 11A. If I decide to stay with the G4, should I try rooting before upgrading? I'm almost certain that out of the box, it needs a software update.
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It will likely come with 610B, so there is definitely an update available.
The first root image released for Verizon was 611A. But I'm pretty sure someone has since released a rooted image for 610B, so you might not need to update.
But I could not get some features (Advanced Calling) working on 610B, until I updated to 611A. So it's possible you would want to update to 611A anyhow.

Honestly, id wait for the nexus and the note 5 coming out. The touch issues along with lg not wanting to unlock bootloader has made everyone frustrated.

I've bought the european version H81510C and the video are plagued with all major side-effects of the rolling shutter. Wobble, skew and warping effects, all around, literally a jello cam very similar to the after effect warp stabilizator, just lot's more unpolished. The top of the phone reach very high temperature by random or just by calling someone and if you launch an app in GL ES 2.0|3.0 ( OPEN GL ES 3.1 + AEP doesn't seems to correctly "work" on this device (missing support of most texture extension:lightmap and such) will try Arm64 build later and/or texture compression), you'll burn your palm. The G4 seems also to discharge or doing something unattended trough the Qi wireless charging antenna tho, cause I feel mine arms becoming insensitive ( physical harm ) after holding it for a while under normal usage (insulating the 2 pin on the backcover does help a little, but, still unpleasant to keep in hand). If I were are able to find the XT1250|XT1225 for less then 350 I would swap it immediatly, nonetheless I'm also debated to return it and wait till september for a replacement, anyhow the NEXUS is a better choice, except for the camera, even a new ZenFone2 updated to the last avaiable version along it's propretary APP is better of this 600 EURO data collector.
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By updating to lastest version (or by NOT keeping it in the hands), the overheating issue seems somewhat under control.
About the unpleasant feeling | electric field > magnetic constriction = discharge , I found out mine shell ( backcover + wireless charging antenna ) the white one ( simil-ceramic ) is made by acrylonitrile butadiene styrene (ABS) "reinforced" with 10% of glass fiber.
About the LG G4 OPENGL ES 3.1 - it's very slow, it doesn't even make a third of a frame in one second ( other device reach 25-44 FPS ), will try in ASTC..and its better by not much.
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That's mine experience with LG and I call it night- refund under way, will check the PRO version if one avaiable this year.

The G4 is fine. If it is overheating then there is a rogue app or process killing it. My coworkers Samsung G 5 was chewing through batteries and Exchange services was taking up most of the resources. We default the Email app and setup it up and all is right now.
When I first got my G4 and set it up, initially it got hot as hell downloading apps and settings. I did a factory reset and it has been fine since. It never gets hot anymore. I use GPS and QC 2.0 fast charge while on the phone (I travel for work) and it is fine. The only time I had an issue with heat was when I left it out in the sun while streaming pandora.
I think the issue is something to do with setup. I noticed I had bought mine at a brick and mortar store and the sales guy quickly ran through the setup and skipped a bunch of stuff. I think something was stuck in the background trying to do something. Once I factory reset it and set it up properly, I never had a problem. My friend also ordered a G4 online and had it shipped and she never had a problem.
Just my thoughts.

player911 said:
The G4 is fine. If it is overheating then there is a rogue app or process killing it. My coworkers Samsung G 5 was chewing through batteries and Exchange services was taking up most of the resources. We default the Email app and setup it up and all is right now.
When I first got my G4 and set it up, initially it got hot as hell downloading apps and settings. I did a factory reset and it has been fine since. It never gets hot anymore. I use GPS and QC 2.0 fast charge while on the phone (I travel for work) and it is fine. The only time I had an issue with heat was when I left it out in the sun while streaming pandora.
I think the issue is something to do with setup. I noticed I had bought mine at a brick and mortar store and the sales guy quickly ran through the setup and skipped a bunch of stuff. I think something was stuck in the background trying to do something. Once I factory reset it and set it up properly, I never had a problem. My friend also ordered a G4 online and had it shipped and she never had a problem.
Just my thoughts.
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had same problem with mine ,first day it ran hot as hell but after first day, it has not got hotter than any other fone i have owned.

player911 said:
The G4 is fine. If it is overheating then there is a rogue app or process killing it. My coworkers Samsung G 5 was chewing through batteries and Exchange services was taking up most of the resources. We default the Email app and setup it up and all is right now.
When I first got my G4 and set it up, initially it got hot as hell downloading apps and settings. I did a factory reset and it has been fine since. It never gets hot anymore. I use GPS and QC 2.0 fast charge while on the phone (I travel for work) and it is fine. The only time I had an issue with heat was when I left it out in the sun while streaming pandora.
I think the issue is something to do with setup. I noticed I had bought mine at a brick and mortar store and the sales guy quickly ran through the setup and skipped a bunch of stuff. I think something was stuck in the background trying to do something. Once I factory reset it and set it up properly, I never had a problem. My friend also ordered a G4 online and had it shipped and she never had a problem.
Just my thoughts.
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Thanks for the input. I ended up getting a new phone becasue I was within the 14 days and it has been running fine.
Thanks for the replies everyone.

sefirosu0522 said:
Thanks for the input. I ended up getting a new phone becasue I was within the 14 days and it has been running fine.
Thanks for the replies everyone.
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Glad it worked out.

My razr 5g become hot after 5 to 10 mins used.

Anyone has same problem? It like that from open box. I just wonder is it normal or I should bring it to warranty.

Could be hardware, firmware or more likely settings and/or apps.
I return it but you can play with it and try to track it down in the meantime.
Carrier, even factory phones can behave like this so there's no guarantee the next one doesn't do the same thing.
Does this happen in safe mode too?
If not it's likely a 3rd party app maybe bloatware that's responsible.

It is still hot in safe mode. Both wifi only or 5g mode. Seem like hardware problem as no one else face this issue.

phantranphuc said:
It is still hot in safe mode. Both wifi only or 5g mode. Seem like hardware problem as no one else face this issue.
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Clear system cache.
Try a hard reboot.
Do a network reset.
Try turning off wifi... try to narrow down which apk(s) are responsible.
Clear caches and data as needed.
Many times it's a settings or app issue... if the new one does the same thing you'll be irritated.
However something must be done as it's toasting the battery.
It can be quite frustrating.

It definitely heats up to above 43 degrees Celsius by any intense CPU actions, I'm not sure if it is the battery or the CPU, but the lower half heats up even by updating a few apps, in normal use such as browsing I don't really face any heating issues.

It's the device using excessive current not the battery. The high current drain causes the battery to become warmer which is normal but far from desirable.

blackhawk said:
Clear system cache.
Try a hard reboot.
Do a network reset.
Try turning off wifi... try to narrow down which apk(s) are responsible.
Clear caches and data as needed.
Many times it's a settings or app issue... if the new one does the same thing you'll be irritated.
However something must be done as it's toasting the battery.
It can be quite frustrating.
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I did them all but still hot even only at google log in step after reset. Any other think I should try?

phantranphuc said:
I did them all but still hot even only at google log in step after reset. Any other think I should try?
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See if it has its recent updates.
Try turning off all app power management if present.
With Q you have less available tools to track it down, even Pie is bad in this respect.
Thanks Google...
It took me months to straighten out my Note 10+
What a joke; all the 10+'s were like this.
So do what it takes... I feel your pain.
I just throw it back at them at this point.
Maybe you'll get lucky on the 2nd one.

blackhawk said:
See if it has its recent updates.
Try turning off all app power management if present.
With Q you have less available tools to track it down, even Pie is bad in this respect.
Thanks Google...
It took me months to straighten out my Note 10+
What a joke; all the 10+'s were like this.
So do what it takes... I feel your pain.
I just throw it back at them at this point.
Maybe you'll get lucky on the 2nd one.
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Thank you for your help. It us 2 year warranty and haven't use as main phone yet. So I will try around or wait for update. Don't want to go to wait a week for replacement.
And if it is software issue, maybe will be more people have it. It should be a big issue because hot device may damage fold screen.

phantranphuc said:
Thank you for your help. It us 2 year warranty and haven't use as main phone yet. So I will try around or wait for update. Don't want to go to wait a week for replacement.
And if it is software issue, maybe will be more people have it. It should be a big issue because hot device may damage fold screen.
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I mean current updates. If not working right, right now, it may not ever.
You bought a phone not a bloody hand warmer...

Have sometime to play with it today. Seem like problem with Chrome. Watching youtube about 30 mins but still cool. Become hot while browsing web by Chrome. Try to use another browser then fine. Will see if it happens again.

Here's how it looks with a thermal camera