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Hello my fellow geeks! I wanted to get some opinions on this subject that I'm sure has been covered 1000 times in the last few weeks but I'm curious nonetheless. Firstly, let me say that I'm a tech mark and I switch tech at least yearly if not more often including phones, tablets, wearables, etc. Currently, I own an OP5T (8/128), Galaxy Note 9 (8/512) and an iPhone XS Max 256 that I use for work. I'm definitely waiting on the new Note 10 when it drops later this summer but since the new OP7P dropped, I'm starting to get antsy after seeing the specs, features, and performance reviews of the phone online. With that said, I absolutely love my OP5T and that's the reason I've kept it so long. The speed, performance, and overall quality of the phone is almost unmatched by more current and higher priced phones on the market today. The phone is truly a flagship killer. However, I purposely missed the last several iterations of the phone because I didn't see any features that stood out enough for me to upgrade and in that time, I grabbed the Note 9 and iPhone XS Max which was even more reason to stay put. I've been enamored with the Note 9 in particular which completey took my attention away from the OP5T but with the release of the latest OP7P, my mouth began watering all over again. I for one don't mind the curved screen and the bezeless design is a thing of complete beauty. I love big screen phones so the 6.7 inch AMOLED screen is almost enough for me to upgrade on its own. Honestly I've been spoiled by the Note 9 but I paid twice over the price of the OP5T so that should be expected. The OP7P seems to be a step closer to that true flagship but with some tradeoffs of course like IP rating and wireless charging. Has anyone upgraded to the OP7P from the 5T specifically. I'd like to know your thoughts. Also, I never really entertained trade ups because usually it's a rip off but OP is offering 200 credit for the OP5T. Seems low ball but that's a nice discount off the new tech. Any opinions out there? I'd love to hear them. Happy Saturday everyone!!!
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Honestly, I've been asking myself the same question.
The only answer that's come up to me is that I'd rather wait for the next iteration - the OP7P is amazing, sure , but I think Note 10 and the next OP devices will be even better.
tl;dr - wait for the next one.
dandrake47 said:
Honestly, I've been asking myself the same question.
The only answer that's come up to me is that I'd rather wait for the next iteration - the OP7P is amazing, sure , but I think Note 10 and the next OP devices will be even better.
tl;dr - wait for the next one.
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I was thinking that same thing. Part of my reasoning is the trade in program as well although I may be able to sell it privately for at least 300-350 but it's such a pain having to deal with that process. I've always gotten the T version of the OnePlus so I think you may be right to hold out. T version may have wireless charging and if so I'm sold!!
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go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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What do you like most about the OP7P? The screen is my biggest attraction. I'm not too concerned about the pop up camera that a lot of people are fussing about. Wireless charging is the only thing it's missing as well as an IP68 rating at least but then again that would make the phone $1000.
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What do you like most about the OP7P? The screen is my biggest attraction. I'm not too concerned about the pop up camera that a lot of people are fussing about. Wireless charging is the only thing it's missing as well as an IP68 rating at least but then again that would make the phone $1000.
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I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
I was an op fan for the price to spec ratio but unfortunately they are going down the drain with the pricing and with software bugs+issues as mentioned in the last post.
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go for op7p it is the phone of the year if you ask me
the only thing that is stopping me from picking it up that it is almost 850 dollars where I live,and the fact that I can get s10+ for less than that.
if the price drops a little bit and be 750 or 700 I wouldn't hesitate getting it
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Same here, been thinking about upgrading my 5T to the 7 but for the same price I can get a S10+
And whilst OP has a better stock android experience, for the pricetag you are paying I personally think the S10+ is worth it more then the OP7 at that point.
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I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
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Very good advice my friend. Than you very much for the links and info. This is the type of objective opinion I was looking for. I think I will wait at least until they update the firmware and alleviate the issues. Thanks again!
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I'm not sure if you've kept up with the recent coverage that the OP7P is getting. That screen you adore is plagued with ghost touch issues, see here https://www.phonearena.com/news/Phantom-taps-are-annoying-OnePlus-7-Pro-users_id116304
And real-world camera performance is mediocre at best, trademark OP.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-to-receive-camera-improving-update-next-week_id116245
They've also dug themselves a grave with some false marketing of its zoom capabilities.
https://www.phonearena.com/news/OnePlus-7-Pro-does-not-offer-3x-optical-zoom_id116292
Stay away from this one. This is their first attempt at a proper flagship and it is pathetic.
Wait for the next iteration if you really want another OnePlus device. The Note 10, on the other hand, is a definite winner.
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Okay, so the screen doesn't have an issue... it's a bug with NFC and the digitizer. And it's also easily fixable with a patch to the kernel.
The camera is actually pretty great with GCam mod. No root required like the 5T.
And I wouldn't go saying the Note 10 is a definite winner since it's not even announced yet and no specs have really been confirmed.
I just ended up returning mine. The curved screen kind of bothered me with the glare. I updated my old 5T and it is running really smooth on the latest beta.
Will wait for the next one.
After holding the 7 pro in my hand it made me love the superthin design of the 5T even more, mine is in a sandstone protective case from OnePlus and the 7 pro feels way too thick, in a case it's going to be a brick. It's a shame they made it so big.
As the title says, who's getting one? I'm a definite yes. My wife really wants one too. She's def not a geek or anything, but, she loves the camera and the real-time translation using a pixel and the buds.
I'm in it for a design without the notch, the camera, solis, and the 90hz screen. I'm fairly excited about this phone. Can't wait for tomorrow!
You?
Definitely looking forward to it, just depends on the official prices. If the XL 128gb starts at 1000 I might just wait. I'm hoping Google has some nice trade in offers
I am in.
Unfortunately I dropped my 3 XL a couple of weeks ago and cracked the screen, so I cant't wait for a new phone.
I have had all the XL's since the start and have not seen another phone that I would enjoy as much as the google.
I'm thinking about it. But Only because Oneplus can't get their **** together and add wireless charging. One of the reasons I left them and the only reason why I'm haven't gone back
I think I have never been less excited about a Google event than this year. Just nothing on the 4XL wows me including Android 10.
- I want to see the battery life with 90Hz always on. Apparently it's by default set to dynamic 90Hz.
- Anandtech says speakers are lousy
- Overall design is dated
- Trade-in value of Pixel 3s is lousy
- No wide angle lens and no 60 fps videos
- Google put a lot of attention into things I don't use that often: Google Assistant, Night sky photography, motion sense.
No thanks. No premium price for a mediocre phone anymore.
I paid $1,000 for my 3XL on the basis of it getting guaranteed three years of OS and security updates, so I'll be keeping it until Android 13 comes out, and decide what to do with what's out then.
On the fence. Just wondering if TWRP will be made considering it is almost 2 months after Android 10 and it doesn't seem possible yet on the Pixel 3XL. My 3XL runs fabulously well for now. I guess it depends on perks.
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I'll probably end up buying it. Just waiting on official price here in Canada. I bought the pixel xl, pixel 2xl, pixel 3xl. Why stop now.
If it had dual front facing speaker and a fingerprint sensor, I would think so, but I guess not.
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I'm pre-ordering today as soon as it goes live, just like I do every year.
Google upped my credit limit unexpectedly, next purchase is Def a pixel 4 xl from Google.
Pixel 3 xl was the first phone I bought from Verizon since the Nexus 6. Loved the Nexus, but gaht dang Verizon screwed the goose with this BL stuff
I have purchased all the XLs and usually get the shakes this time of year for a new one.
I was not impressed by the roll out.
Less impressed by the trade in price.
I can wait a while
*and I am reading they are doing away with the unlimited photo/video storage perk
I will hold onto my 3 for a while now
No wifi 6 or 5G. I am not buying it. Samsung always comes out with awesome specs. Will just keep the pixel 3 xl
I'll be getting the 4XL but after a month or 2, when there should be some bug fixes and sales hopefully
I waited for the sale last year to buy. I just can't bring myself to pay full price knowing it'll drop a few hundred on a few months.
I do love it though.
Just got the 3xl recently and it will do me fine for the next year or two
I always buy a new phone every year. This year is a little different. Android has gotten to point where I only need to root for ad blocking. Almost everything I used to ROM phones for is pretty much included in stock Android. I think I'll sit this year out and wait for the 5XL.
I had it ordered and cancelled after thinking about it. Just not enough of an upgrade for me. I think I just like the look of it more than anything else. Might change my mind when holiday sales start but I'm proud of myself for cancelling. I've pre-ordered the past two years.
Got the 3 XL when it first came out and had a handful of hardware problems with it (even after multiple RMAs).
Returned it and got a 7 Pro but VoLTE doesn't work with it here in Canada.
Most likely going to get the 4XL for getting VoLTE back and the upgraded camera.
Not too sold on the Soli/radar hand waving gesture stuff though...
I have been purchasing the Google phone on it's release day since the 6P.. I thought about getting the 4XL.. but there are lots of things I've realized I am not fond of with this release.
- While I do like the refresh rate, I don't see many other things I'm too excited about.
- They did away with the fingerprint scanner - for FACE ID... not a fan.
- Then I believe the 4XL doesn't have dual front facing speakers, that's one of my favorite features
- Also it doesn't support the new 5G network that is starting to get released throughout the US. If I am going to pay this much money for a phone, i need to know that is has the hardware/specs to survive technology upgrades.
- Oh, and everyone is hating on the notch on the 3XL --> i have no issue with it. my phone is always darked/blacked out anyways, so it's irrelevant to me
- Then on top of it all, trade in value through google for my perfect condition 3XL only got me $260 for a phone I paid $1,000 for a year ago.
No thanks Google. I'm good. I'll wait.
Side note: DU for Android 10 will probably release sometime in the next month or so, and I'll completely forget about the 4XL anyways
So, I made it from 2014 until today with my Nexus 6.
Was going to just do a battery swap and see how many more years I could ride this thing. Couldn't have done it without LineageOS.
My 3a XL should be here Friday.
I'll probably tear open my N6 to swap the battery just to see if I can keep it alive a little longer. But it would be interesting to see the longest someone has kept the same phone.
I also just came from Shamu. Unfortunately I broke the screen on my first (still have it) so I didn't technically make it that long on a single phone. I keep all my phones though. Still have my Nexus One, though it's been years since I've even powered it up.
You're going to love the 3a. It feels so much better in the hand than Shamu and everything is so much faster. And don't even get me started on the battery life. I consistently got 5-6 sot on my builds on Shamu (4 ish on stock) and now I get double that.
Consistent
Here is my normal at about 50%
I locked my bootloader out of boredom last week running latest complete stock with these results.
Good device for sure. I have 3a xl from T-Mobile fyi
Yea, I came form a Nexus 5x (had it for 2 and a half years) and the improvements over that are insane. I no longer have to keep it charging constantly and it's so much smoother.
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I had a Nexus 6 myself but technically came from a Moto g6. You'll love the pixel 3a xl, it's by far the best phone I have used and performance wise it's a well deserved upgrade from Shamu.
The only downer right now is the lack of twrp but everything else about the phone is amazing.
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I had a Nexus 6 myself but technically came from a Moto g6. You'll love the pixel 3a xl, it's by far the best phone I have used and performance wise it's a well deserved upgrade from Shamu.
The only downer right now is the lack of twrp but everything else about the phone is amazing.
It came today. Playing with it now. I really like how it feels in my hand. The Nexus 6 was horribly uncomfortable.
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It came today. Playing with it now. I really like how it feels in my hand. The Nexus 6 was horribly uncomfortable.
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Exactly. This solved the slightly too wide issue Shamu had. I will say the smaller screen will take a little getting used to. I still find myself wishing for a slightly larger one fairly often.
I am switching to 3a from original MotoX running JellyBean mostly due to the battery not lasting long enough. I had a spare Moto X that I bough used for $100, this one runs KitKat and battery life is better (I rarely used/charged it) but it has problems running Google Maps, so considering current promotions on Amazon I finally made a move.
How do you know your phone is too old? When Chrome Browser has a menu item that says there will be no further browser updates due to OS not being supported. This is what I have on JellyBean, the one on KitKat is still being updated but inability to use Google Maps and a lot of new apps no longer being compatible finally pushed me to upgrade.
Og pixel xl about to be unsupported no more security updates after december so here you go moved on to a pixel 3a xl. I found a Great deal on amazon 150 off for a used 6 month old phone pretty satisfied.:good:
Got my P3aXL Friday. Great device.
But, I could see getting by with my Nexus 6 another year or so on LineageOS and a new battery.
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Exactly. This solved the slightly too wide issue Shamu had. I will say the smaller screen will take a little getting used to. I still find myself wishing for a slightly larger one fairly often.
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Long time no see... Just ordered my 3a xl... are you still doing roms or kernels these days on that german site?
I have a kernel thread here. As soon as all the Rom issues get worked out Velocity will be alive and well again here as well.
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I have a kernel thread here. As soon as all the Rom issues get worked out Velocity will be alive and well again here as well.
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Great... and your on xda which just makes it all easier for us end users. I think I am the only one of your original 3 n6 testers thats still messing with roms. Once I get mine and settle in maybe I will test for you again as those private velocity builds we tested made the n6 screaming fast
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So, I made it from 2014 until today with my Nexus 6.
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Dang dude, that's impressive.
I got a LG G3 in 2014, but moved to a Honor 8 after a couple of years before moving to the 3a XL a couple of months ago. Both those phones where rooted, but the manufactures were slow with updates and eventually stopped updating them. I ran custom ROMs on both, but eventually even those dry up, especially when a new major Android version comes out and the manufactures doesn't update the drivers to the new OS. Perhaps I'll have better luck with the 3a.
The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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Will be by me as long as I own this. The main reason I moved in from Shamu was Pie was never functional to my standards on it. Many things never worked right and the battery was much worse than Oreo.
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The Nexus 6 got lots of support from the custom ROM community. I'm hoping this 3a will be supported close to the same.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of development on the 3a series. There is certainly more development on the flagship 3/4 level than the 3a, but even that level is less than the Nexus 6 - at least in the heyday. I don't think that will ever change. The good news is that raw Pixel OS isn't bad and obviously we can root our phones and have access to some development and modifcations, but it will never be at Nexus 6 levels.
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Unfortunately, there isn't much in the way of development on the 3a series. There is certainly more development on the flagship 3/4 level than the 3a, but even that level is less than the Nexus 6 - at least in the heyday. I don't think that will ever change. The good news is that raw Pixel OS isn't bad and obviously we can root our phones and have access to some development and modifcations, but it will never be at Nexus 6 levels.
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Shamu was no cake walk to get fully functional builds on for the first 3-4 months after it came out and that was a basic 32 bit device with none of the recent security, partition, and other fun Google has thrown at us with Android 10. Shamu was also one of (if not the best) devices you could buy in 2014. Development will get sorted out at some point (soon hopefully) and when it does there will be at least 1 Rom for these which is all I need.
LineageOS is still kicking out updates for the Nexus 6.
I know a battery swap is doable, but a little more than what I want to dig into. Otherwise, I had no real reason to move on.
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LineageOS is still kicking out updates for the Nexus 6.
I know a battery swap is doable, but a little more than what I want to dig into. Otherwise, I had no real reason to move on.
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That may be, but Pie Roms on Shamu were never fully bug free and the battery was never as good. I spent months trying to get all the issues resolved and never did. The reduced battery youre seeing is almost certainly from running a Pie Rom and not because the battery is too old. Just prior to getting the 3a I was running my Oreo build and still getting 5-6 hrs SOT on it vs roughly 2.5-3 on any/every Pie build I made (or tried).
I've used the Pixel 6 Pro on and off since November. For the most part, it has been a very good phone, but after using the S22 Ultra for over 2 months now, I realize how much better the P6P could be. The 5G reception, the charging speeds, and overall stability of the Snapdragon S22 Ultra are vastly superior to the Pixel 6 Pro. To be fair, the P6P has a cleaner software experience, better camera in some respects, and better speakers, but the essentials are done better by the S22U. Like many of us, I had hoped that the P6P would have been the Samsung flagship with stock Android, but it's turning out to have similar problems as the Exynos chips, even down to running warm. There are promises for big things in the June or July update, but each update has brought new bugs. I'm considering just selling the P6P and seeing if the Pixel 7 Pro fixes anything.
The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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The Pixel 6 Pro is more S21 ultra though innit?
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My girlfriend has the S21 Ultra, I have the P6P, andddd everyime I grab her phone I am surprised at how smooth it is. Every. Time.
I am getting pretty tired of having to borrow my wife's 22 when I need to make a phone call.
I had the s22ultra SD variant, sold it because if the crappy UI and micro stutters I experienced constantly. Regardless of the hardware, what good is it if the software is still in beta production.
A lot of gimmicky features like bixby, knox, etc.
Samsung has potential but they suck.
there is a 300$ difference between these two phones. the s22 ultra BETTER have the better experience.
I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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I have to say otherwise, my girlfriend has the s22 ultra and I got the P6P, I wouldn't exchange it in a thousand years. Performance wise it stutters, quite a lot, to the point of semi freezing. Charging and battery wise we both get home more or less at same time with same battery, I've disabled adaptive charging tho. The stylus is not that impressive, not good enough for note taking. Everything else is meh, I love the purity of android and came a long way, no need for duplicate apps and super updates! Câmera also so so the same quality on both, but she has clearer night pictures (more realistic), pixel pictures at night seems to overwhelm the colours a bit.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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I own both and spend time in a fallout bunker. My S22 Ultra and iPhone 13 Pro Max can make calls and text. The P6P has no service. The radio hardware is most definitely the P6P's Achilles heel.
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Most reliable radio hardware I've had. Never had service dropped.
I used to have to have Tasker automatically cycle airplane mode whenever service was lost on all my prior phones, which were all Qualcomm flagships.
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Don't forget the shutter speed, Samsung constantly blurs moving things in pictures whereas pixel has no issue tracking pictures of moving objects and is virtually instant from pressing the button and taking the picture
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That's something else too. While picture quality is pretty good, the picture taking experience falls behind.
Hopefully most of the issues addressed can be resolved or mitigated through software updates, I hope, also for my own sake.
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There is no doubt, in my mind, that the Pixel blows Sammy away in every category, especially camera. But not in signal reception. Unfortunately I need my phone to make and receive phone calls.
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I agree with the signal reception. I have been working from home past 2 years, so I haven't had as much time to get frustrated, meaning using it while out and about. But this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned and finding out just how horrible it is as I start traveling more. I am just outside metro DC area and have a lot of experience with other phones plus friends and family. Why, just why couldn't they have stuck with a trusted chip? Verizon, fwiw. I will eventually switch to something non Google. Other parts work great, but they call it a smartphone, not a camera connection device.
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I agree with the signal reception...this phone has the absolute worst reception of any phone I have ever owned...
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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I agree with ya here, however, I'm on T-Mo. So, it's definitely a problem with the modem needing some very specific code changes. But thankfully enough, these changes have finally appeared to happen about a month back on a beta version of the OS. Now, the latest beta for Android 12.1 and the latest beta for Android 13 both contain modem updates that finally make my service more functional and reliable.
The only downside here is that they won't be pushing this update OTA for another month and a half (and it also took them a while to get to this, haha).
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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That would be fantastic if it really helps. I am in my house right now. My old Pixel 2 XL, Wife's Pixel 4a, my last Pixel 4a5g all had excellent service here. If I turn my wifi off I can't make a damn call. Today I was fishing at a pond that is in the middle of 3 major roads, had zero service. I will wait and see what comes from this. In your opinion, what are you thinking the change is, but I don't know how to ask you to quantify it.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Not sure. But I think that it has something to do with the general code requirements for this modem, as it was notoriously known for having reception problems in the past (as the Samsung S20 international variant used the same modem). It seems that Google was still recovering from the big lawsuit hit that dug into their phone development department's spending power before the Pixel 6 series had gone into production (was around $270M). I'm hoping that they are able to dig their way out of that hole by the time the Pixel 8 series is in production - as that will be around the time I upgrade my phone again, haha =P.
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Did a software update solve the S20 problems? I did a quick search but not seeing that exact resolution. If that update in beta right now helps a lot they may save a customer here, but I am not upgrading to a future Pixel if they put a documented problem in this phone and the solution is to upgrade out of the problem.
I have owned both and they are both flawed.
I still have the S22U and ultimately it is IMO the better option. Yes the shutter lag is annoying and OneUI has it’s frustrations too but the flaws on the Pixel are bigger, FPS was a daily frustration (and the ultrasonic FPS on samsung is just better than all optical ones IMO) auto brightness was just dumb and as other have said the radio is weaker.
I am hopeful that lessons will have been learned with the Pixel 7
I have the vanilla S22, same with everyone says, it has micro stutter on the UI frequently, and the usual Samsung not able to capture moving objects. For those reasons, I am moving to Pixel 7 Pro this year.
To be fair, the P6 Pro is in another price league. You compare an Audi A5 to a BMW 7 (significant price difference). That still doesn't excuse, however, the especially weak reception quality and temperature problems (quick overheating under stress) on a P6 Pro. Basic features need to work, full stop. And Pixels struggle with that at times.
Finally decided to take TMO up on their $800 Trade-In Offer on my P6_Pro & Upgraded to the S22 Ultra 512 gb
(SM-S908U1).
No more seeing me 'round Pixel Town...Safe Journeys, es
Best of luck
Yeah, enjoy your new phone! Also, come back if you can ever get that thing rooted and stuff =). That (and the interface design) is primarily what is holding me back from Samsung phones - but I'm not sure if that has recently changed.
I actually traded my s22 ultra for this p6pro and it was the best decision I ever made, hands down!
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I actually traded my s22 ultra for this p6pro and it was the best decision I ever made, hands down!
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Did the difference relate to what I had mentioned in my comment above?
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Did the difference relate to what I had mentioned in my comment above?
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So, I was just thinking to myself last night that after they the introduction of the new aggressive security API that detects root and renders my Gpay useless (which is just the beginning) I am finding it less and less worthwhile to have an Android device, which I've had now for 15 years. I use a Mac for computing and I'm beginning to wonder whether I do the same for my phone. I'm so sick of Google's crappy products and customer service. I just might join you before the value of this phone nose dives.
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So, I was just thinking to myself last night that after they the introduction of the new aggressive security API that detects root and renders my Gpay useless
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*Cough* *cough* not true *cough* =)
Actually, wait, I missed the beginning sentence that you wrote and noticed it after I quoted it and posted my reply. So, it might be true. My apologies. When does that security API roll out?
It's out. I posted earlier a link to the discussion on GitHub. Oddly enough, not all users have been affected yet. Then again, that makes sense given the range of variables. I can't even use my craigslist app because I can't pass the newly imposed tests.
I decided to dump the stock rom in favor of Pixel Experience, unrooted. I now have nearly all of the features I want including face unlock and zero problems.
Good call on the switch to T-Mo. I just did the same last month and very happy I did
That's tight, I like that one!
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I decided to dump the stock rom in favor of Pixel Experience, unrooted. I now have nearly all of the features I want including face unlock and zero problems.
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Comments like this amaze me. The implementation of Face Unlock on these ROMs is the same as on cheap Chinese phones. It is not secure and it's a gimmick.
Also, I want a phone that works out of the box. Swapping ROMs gets old fast nowadays and unless one is a developer experimenting, it's not worth the hassle and the bugs for most.
If the camera on the S23 is as good as it promises to be, I'd be done with the P6P. Or go to the iPhone 14 and get the best battery life with everything turned on.
Can't pinpoint when but over the last couple iterations of stock Android it's felt more like changes have been made for the sake of change rather than the benefit of the end user.
This is most apparent on the stock ROM. Everything was designed to be in your face constantly and I hate it so I'm running something else as of late.
I'm still not a fan of the new QS. My Pixel hasn't changed that. It's ugly, it's inconsistent (even on the 13 beta).
The fact of the matter is custom ROMs have always been better than nearly any carrier/OEM variation of Android and it just so happened that as I went back from OnePlus to a Pixel that development for Pixels would totally go down the drain relative to prior models.
That's partially because Google trashed the UI at its core and reversing that would take extensive work that just isn't worth the time.
This is the quickest I have ever gotten kind of annoyed with a device and it's completely unrelated to the hardware. The hardware of the 6, in spite of numerous criticisms, has always been great to me but Android as software is just... Dying in my eyes.
They get away with it as it's still more flexible as a platform than iOS but honestly they can only go so far.
If things don't improve either with 14 next year or with OnePlus doing a complete turn around in software, I'm out. I'll look more into the buggy affairs of Linux smartphones.
I have the luxury of having the 6 pro and the note 20 ultra, so when I am fed up with the six pro being goofy or glitchy I can switch back to that and generally enjoy it but have always been a fan of the nexus, pixel line so no matter how which it is I find myself wanting to come back. Lately considering ditching the 6 pro myself and considering the OP9 pro on special... Flashing 13 beta kind of help. The new visuals seem really cool but definitely made Android auto even quirkier. Maybe I should just consider the rooting and romming stuff again, but haven't really messed up it since maybe my OnePlus 7 pro
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Comments like this amaze me. The implementation of Face Unlock on these ROMs is the same as on cheap Chinese phones. It is not secure and it's a gimmick.
Also, I want a phone that works out of the box. Swapping ROMs gets old fast nowadays and unless one is a developer experimenting, it's not worth the hassle and the bugs for most.
If the camera on the S23 is as good as it promises to be, I'd be done with the P6P. Or go to the iPhone 14 and get the best battery life with everything turned on.
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I wouldn't go to an iPhone if they gave me a case of them for free.
The only issue I have with my P6P is how hot it gets when charging, the loss of audio for notifications when I connect to the BT in my work van, the poor radio for both 5G and LTE in weaker signal areas and the wretched battery life
I'm curious to see how P7P is with Android 13, which is how I'll probably go in October when it's released
As an owner of both the S22U and the P6P, I prefer the P6P.
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I wouldn't go to an iPhone if they gave me a case of them for free.
The only issue I have with my P6P is how hot it gets when charging, the loss of audio for notifications when I connect to the BT in my work van, the poor radio for both 5G and LTE in weaker signal areas and the wretched battery life
I'm curious to see how P7P is with Android 13, which is how I'll probably go in October when it's released
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I'm having the same issues plus I can never get a full signal even in a strong signal area where both my tablet and my other phone which is an S22 get a full signal, my previous phone on my other line was a OnePlus 10 Pro. Lost 40% battery in just a couple hours yesterday while getting our daughter moved into her dorm room and I didn't use the phone at all and it got really warm. I also have an issue with really slow data on this phone. I am not a fan of any of that. I like the but hate all the issues.
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I'm having the same issues plus I can never get a full signal even in a strong signal area where both my tablet and my other phone which is an S22 get a full signal, my previous phone on my other line was a OnePlus 10 Pro. Lost 40% battery in just a couple hours yesterday while getting our daughter moved into her dorm room and I didn't use the phone at all and it got really warm. I also have an issue with really slow data on this phone. I am not a fan of any of that. I like the but hate all the issues.
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I don’t really have issues with data speeds. But I’m usually in 5G so I’m pretty solitaire but the problem is if I’m in like one bar 5G, forget about it I can’t load a website. Same thing with one bar of LTE. And the problems I listed are you know, pretty profound. They’re not all bad but the battery life is absolutely horrifying. I’m a tech for Dish Network and if I get you a job with 100% strength and it takes 2 1/2 hours to do the job when I’m done I’m at like 70%.
At the end of the day though, I just can’t buy into Samsung and all that bloat wear. My daughter has an S 22 ultra. It’s a hell of a nice phone call man there’s just so much extra junk on there.