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No CM13 for LG G3 d850???

Isnt ATT usually the first to get it? Why are we last all sudden?

No maintainer so it won't get approved for nightlies. CM requires someone with development knowledge and who owns the device to keep it properly updated before it will accept them into nightlies
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That said there are builds out there. I've been running the following build for a week or so and it's absolutely wonderful. Better than any LP ROM I've even tried.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/cm13-lg-g3-test-builds-t3245744

Here are 2 location to get CM13 unofficially for the D850:
https://ci.galliumos.org/job/cm13/device=d850,jdk=OpenJDK7,label=android/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44671
It's been running well on mine. The biggest issue has been no functioning GPS.

kimocal said:
Here are 2 location to get CM13 unofficially for the D850:
https://ci.galliumos.org/job/cm13/device=d850,jdk=OpenJDK7,label=android/
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=44671
It's been running well on mine. The biggest issue has been no functioning GPS.
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I'm running the second build and it is good so far, except for the odd random reboot or I'll have to pull the battery.

Wow no GPS = no ingress or maps. Pulling the battery might as well be cm12.1

Cuzz1369 said:
No maintainer so it won't get approved for nightlies. CM requires someone with development knowledge and who owns the device to keep it properly updated before it will accept them into nightlies
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OK so why are there 12.1 nightlies? Where did those devs go? Why do att users always get screwed over?

lolwatpear said:
OK so why are there 12.1 nightlies? Where did those devs go? Why do att users always get screwed over?
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You know some people get new phones, some people get a life. Some people get sick of hearing crap like this.

Cuzz1369 said:
You know some people get new phones, some people get a life. Some people get sick of hearing crap like this.
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AMEN! "Users getting screwed over by devs not doing stuff for free any more". Sigh.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
AMEN! "Users getting screwed over by devs not doing stuff for free any more". Sigh.
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I didn't say it, so I can't comment on the intention of the comment, but I would have taken it as meaning that we constantly get screwed over by AT&T and device manufacturers like LG, both of which are true. We (I anyway) are very thankful for the devs who give us awesome things like CM and other assorted roms and kernels and whatnot - we love you guys. I've had other LG flagships for which AT&T and LG dropped support way earlier than expected, and earlier than other carriers' variants. In some cases they have even promised a certain level of future support then decided later to end development early without comment.
It gets old - we like our LG phones for a lot of reasons, but AT&T and T-Mobile users often get screwed so we have to depend on independent devs. Either we move on to another phone, stick with an old OS or base, or someone creates something awesome. We love the dev community and hope they stay interested, but if they lose interest what are we supposed to do, pay them full-time salaries to port CM 13? That just isn't possible without a lot of organization and large scale funding. If you don't want to develop, don't. You certainly have a right to get frustrated, as do we. So again, I don't know the intent of the original comment, but try not to take it personally, and please don't assume that most users and consumers have any animosity for devs, because we don't - we are amazed by what you all do. If it is glory and being showered with money and praise you seek, you're probably in the wrong field, but thanks for your contributions anyway.

emepher said:
I didn't say it, so I can't comment on the intention of the comment, but I would have taken it as meaning that we constantly get screwed over by AT&T and device manufacturers like LG, both of which are true. We (I anyway) are very thankful for the devs who give us awesome things like CM and other assorted roms and kernels and whatnot - we love you guys. I've had other LG flagships for which AT&T and LG dropped support way earlier than expected, and earlier than other carriers' variants. In some cases they have even promised a certain level of future support then decided later to end development early without comment.
It gets old - we like our LG phones for a lot of reasons, but AT&T and T-Mobile users often get screwed so we have to depend on independent devs. Either we move on to another phone, stick with an old OS or base, or someone creates something awesome. We love the dev community and hope they stay interested, but if they lose interest what are we supposed to do, pay them full-time salaries to port CM 13? That just isn't possible without a lot of organization and large scale funding. If you don't want to develop, don't. You certainly have a right to get frustrated, as do we. So again, I don't know the intent of the original comment, but try not to take it personally, and please don't assume that most users and consumers have any animosity for devs, because we don't - we are amazed by what you all do. If it is glory and being showered with money and praise you seek, you're probably in the wrong field, but thanks for your contributions anyway.
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Thanks. Yes, that's what I meant. ATT is the reason why devs don't have ATT phones, even ones that are very open to development. They must not see a point in developing for a device with less already-established devs and less users.
As for my previous questions, I legitimately wanted to know where the devs who had just worked on 12.1 cm went. I just didn't know how the nightlies worked.

Updates for CM13.0 d850 here
Some UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod CM 13.0 (AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1) ROM images for d850 are here. I've been building them for about a month and posting an update every couple of days. I hope to continue posting semi-daily updates until somebody at CyanogenMod starts maintaining a d850 nightly.

wseverin said:
Some UNOFFICIAL CyanogenMod CM 13.0 (AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1) ROM images for d850 are here. I've been building them for about a month and posting an update every couple of days. I hope to continue posting semi-daily updates until somebody at CyanogenMod starts maintaining a d850 nightly.
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I've been running your 20160305 for the past couple days and it's been very stable. Thanks for sharing your nightlies.

does GPS works with the latest cm13 nightly?

Has anyone tried running the official cm13 build from T-mobile G3? The only difference I'm aware of is WiFi calling.

appsmarsterx said:
does GPS works with the latest cm13 nightly?
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everything should be working.
I used gps google maps to nav on a car drive recently, just fine, no issue

there is already CM13 for D850
http://subefotos.com/ver/?034b03d64343e75988549fff7cd5a5f2o.jpg

undivide said:
everything should be working.
I used gps google maps to nav on a car drive recently, just fine, no issue
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What made you go back to stock? (I'm assuming your signature is up-to-date)

deathbytalkshow said:
What made you go back to stock? (I'm assuming your signature is up-to-date)
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yeah, I went back to stock because it was getting harder to find a good working build of cm and I was getting tired of flashing daily so I went to weekly flash and I got tired of that so I did a revert and took all the updates OTA thru at&t to get up to 6.0
I wanted to be able to use android pay whenever I need to.
For a stock base, LG really has everything I need but I still overlay nova prime launcher to clean things up a bit. Its little things like not having to worry about whether or not an app is going to load or crash the entire system. Also not having to worry if a reboot or shut down is going to lock my phone and require a battery pull, which I have not had to do once since going to stock.
In the event that I do go to sell the phone off it generally is more desirable to have stock OS.
Oh also, my wife got a new galaxy s7 so we can do VoLTE calling now =-)
This might be my imagination but the cell tower service seems more consistent with at&t stock os.
Have no need for root and no need for kernels or any of cm's little oddities.
Sometimes I think the maintainers change things in the rom just for the sake of changing something, whether its necessary or not and without regard for whether it might wreck havoc on the entire system stability

undivide said:
yeah, I went back to stock because it was getting harder to find a good working build of cm and I was getting tired of flashing daily so I went to weekly flash and I got tired of that so I did a revert and took all the updates OTA thru at&t to get up to 6.0
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I'm on Cricket so it won't let me OTA to 6.0 unless I have an active AT&T SIM. I'm hoping someone at a Cricket store has one lying around that I can borrow. But I get what you mean. Whenever there was a nightly I liked that gave me no problems, I stuck to it like glue I actually gave CM13 a try for a while, today, and it was like butter. But the one thing that don't like losing from LG stock is the "content lock" in the gallery. I haven't seen a 3rd party app that encrypts and locks them down like LG; others just hide it with .nomedia or their app is bulky or they convert it but can't recover images anymore.
Thanks for replying

Where are all the cool ROMs?

Hello all, I decided to pick up a Pixel C and upgrade from my Nexus 10 since there was a developer sale today! I'm pretty excited and I came over to this section to see all the cool roms being made for the Pixel C and I must say I'm disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the ROM developers (running Pure Nexus on my 6P) and I just thought I would see the same ROM support for the Pixel C.
Anyway, where is all the custom ROM support? Where is the official TWRP release? I went through and read the threads and I feel like I'm missing something and there is a reason there aren't any custom ROMs or official TWRP support.

vanydotk said:
Hello all, I decided to pick up a Pixel C and upgrade from my Nexus 10 since there was a developer sale today! I'm pretty excited and I came over to this section to see all the cool roms being made for the Pixel C and I must say I'm disappointed. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the ROM developers (running Pure Nexus on my 6P) and I just thought I would see the same ROM support for the Pixel C.
Anyway, where is all the custom ROM support? Where is the official TWRP release? I went through and read the threads and I feel like I'm missing something and there is a reason there aren't any custom ROMs or official TWRP support.
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I think there are a few reasons for this. One being (at least I believe) that this tablet doesn't appear to have been well received. The hefty price tag, along with the seemingly rushed (read: buggy) attempt at slapping Android OS onto a device meant to run ChromeOS from it's inception, may have affected sales. The other reason I believe relates to the previous sentence. The software on the Pixel C is some sort of amalgamation of Android and ChromeOS. From what I've gathered from the generous devs such as cheep5k8, this device is pretty much all ChromeOS up until it boots the actual OS, which is then Android. I would imagine that makes it a pain for devs to develop for it. Even chainfire said something to the effect of it wasn't worth his time because he would have to spend a lot of time adapting everything to be compatible with ChromeOS.
Now that being said, I picked one up today as well during the "developer sale" to replace my Nexus 10 just like you. However, I am perfectly content with the stock/rooted OS, as that's what I'm running on my 6P. I put "developer sale" in quotes because I'm not entirely sure the release of the Android N preview is the reason. Going back to my first speculation on why there aren't many devs, I don't believe they've moved as many units as they would've liked. So I kind of see this as an act of (for lack of a better term) desperation to move some units. But I'm okay with that. I've been waiting for Google to release another 10" tablet to replace my N10 for a good while now. With no other 10" tablet in sight from them (there is rumored to be another 7" unveiled at I/O) anytime soon, I figured now would be a great time to jump on this. I'm totally stoked that I was able to snag a 64GB version for $450 instead of $600. Can't wait for it to be delivered.

I as well was wondering this not because I want to use roms from other developers perse, but I like slimmed down roms over stock android.
I gave my son my ipad 2 and i needed a replacement for taking notes in class, work and then reading comics, books and watching movies in bed. Ordered the 32GB + Folio keyboard.
Im sure it is just a matter of time before the roms and official TWRP show up, like nearly all other devices. Especially now with the "dev sale". Might have a few more steps vs installing on a regular nexus though. We shall see. Til then im happy with stock android root.

Tablets never really have (m)any ROMs available, this one is specifically difficult since it's Android in a Chromebook's body.
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I took the plunge last night after seeing the sale. I was surprised to actually get a code since I'm not a 'developer' by most standards. Anyways, I'm surprisingly leaning towards not using a ROM on this device and just running the kernel that's available, and doing the aesthetic and user-friendliness mods that I usually rely on ROMS for by way of Xposed. Seriously, the only reason I use a custom ROM on my Nexus 10 is to get the softkeys in a place where my thumbs can reach them, and since that's been handled natively in the Pixel C, I don't really see a need for a ROM.
Not that I wouldn't flash one if someone made something really impressive.

BaristaBot said:
I took the plunge last night after seeing the sale. I was surprised to actually get a code since I'm not a 'developer' by most standards. Anyways, I'm surprisingly leaning towards not using a ROM on this device and just running the kernel that's available, and doing the aesthetic and user-friendliness mods that I usually rely on ROMS for by way of Xposed. Seriously, the only reason I use a custom ROM on my Nexus 10 is to get the softkeys in a place where my thumbs can reach them, and since that's been handled natively in the Pixel C, I don't really see a need for a ROM.
Not that I wouldn't flash one if someone made something really impressive.
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+1 Root access is the key element for me. While I like the customizations, I can find other ways to get them. For example, it would be nice to have the advanced boot features add to the power button, but I can easily get this with an app.

I think we just need good kernels

HTC lagging behind with Security Patches?

I have recently noticed that my HTC 10 is still stuck on the January 2017 security patch, despite the earlier eagerness of HTC to keep the 10 updated. And from what I was able to find on the internet, the US Unlocked version has at least reached the April patch. But five patches missed is pretty ridiculous.
How are the security patches coming along for the rest of you guys?

May 5th.
I'm on Lineage OS though. You give up Android Pay, but it's worth it for me.
I get the full Google experience. [Ik, should've buy the Pixel..don't worry...plan on doing it this year]

Scutariu said:
May 5th.
I'm on Lineage OS though. You give up Android Pay, but it's worth it for me.
I get the full Google experience. [Ik, should've buy the Pixel..don't worry...plan on doing it this year]
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I hate lineage/cm since ever. their code is far from the AOSP smoothness

throcker said:
I hate lineage/cm since ever. their code is far from the AOSP smoothness
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Mine is pretty snappy so far; DOESN'T compare with a Nexus/Pixel... But giving that is WIP, I have no doubt that in time the device tree will be optimised.

HTC says if there's no security patches means we don't need... (in a conversation with HTC France support)
I was like.... "WTF"???
Kinda disappointed. HTC 10 would be my last HTC phone, going for Pixel2.

I own both the HTC 10 and the Pixel. I regret buying the 10 for both my wife and I. Although I would prefer to have the Pixel XL and 128GB instead of 32GB, it was just too good a deal to pass up, and the up to date Android software runs the best stock experience I've ever had on any phone. There are still reasons I run custom ROMs and rooted, but there'll always be reasons.
I'm more disappointed that the HTC 10 doesn't have 7.1.2 yet, but you're right, it is ridiculous that it's not getting the monthly security patches. I do like the shape and feel of the 10 over the Pixel, but that's it. Mixed feelings about the fingerprint reader on the front versus the back - ideally there would be both.
I'm going to switch back to the 10 on a custom ROM soon only so that I can play around more freely with making my own ROM for the Pixel based on Google's factory image.

TheMadKing said:
I have recently noticed that my HTC 10 is still stuck on the January 2017 security patch, despite the earlier eagerness of HTC to keep the 10 updated. And from what I was able to find on the internet, the US Unlocked version has at least reached the April patch. But five patches missed is pretty ridiculous.
How are the security patches coming along for the rest of you guys?
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That would have to be your carrier then. Who's your carrier?

tkoreaper said:
That would have to be your carrier then. Who's your carrier?
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The international unlocked should be been in the what security patch, then?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
The international unlocked should be been in the what security patch, then?
Cheers
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Hmmm, I didn't realize you guys were that far behind. I think the latest security patch for WWE is January.

tkoreaper said:
Hmmm, I didn't realize you guys were that far behind. I think the latest security patch for WWE is January.
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I confirm !

tkoreaper said:
That would have to be your carrier then. Who's your carrier?
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I'm on Orange Romania, but my phone is WWE. I bought it off contract. I'm not sure how this works, I'm pretty much a noob, but does my carrier still have a say on what updates I receive if my phone is a WWE version that wasn't bought from them?
And I'm pretty sure that it's a general problem. Only the US Unlocked version are up to date or close to it, the rest of the world is lagging behind.

Scutariu said:
May 5th.
I'm on Lineage OS though. You give up Android Pay, but it's worth it for me.
I get the full Google experience. [Ik, should've buy the Pixel..don't worry...plan on doing it this year]
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Well, Android Pay doesn't work in Romania anyway.
And I don't know.. there are small problems like this that make me regret buying the HTC 10 a little, and I am a long time HTC fan.
But my choices were restricted from the start. I hugely dislike Samsung, so I never considered the S7, the Pixel was slightly too expensive, and the OnePlus 3 meant throwing my 128 GB sd card away. I actually wanted to buy the OnePlus 3T, but once again, the price in Romania was too much.
So I caught the 10 while it was on sale, and I bought it. But it will probably be my last HTC phone unless HTC starts doing stuff.
And I was thinking about installing a custom ROM, Lineage OS or Resurrection Remix. But I'm hesitating.

TheMadKing said:
Well, Android Pay doesn't work in Romania anyway.
And I don't know.. there are small problems like this that make me regret buying the HTC 10 a little, and I am a long time HTC fan.
But my choices were restricted from the start. I hugely dislike Samsung, so I never considered the S7, the Pixel was slightly too expensive, and the OnePlus 3 meant throwing my 128 GB sd card away. I actually wanted to buy the OnePlus 3T, but once again, the price in Romania was too much.
So I caught the 10 while it was on sale, and I bought it. But it will probably be my last HTC phone unless HTC starts doing stuff.
And I was thinking about installing a custom ROM, Lineage OS or Resurrection Remix. But I'm hesitating.
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I totally agree, besides the build quality, and the hardware selection. HTC really blows on software...
Try the PureNexus MOD from Eliminator74, I'm running this for 3 days now :-?, And can't be happier.
You will have to flash a zip after flashing the rom, to change the sepolicy in order to work with your 128 SD Card.
Aand, the Video recording is not working.
But: The devs are amazing, and they put a whole lot of effort into this is project.
I have no doubt that these issues will be fixed soon
PS: Salut xD

Scutariu said:
I totally agree, besides the build quality, and the hardware selection. HTC really blows on software...
Try the PureNexus MOD from Eliminator74, I'm running this for 3 days now :-?, And can't be happier.
You will have to flash a zip after flashing the rom, to change the sepolicy in order to work with your 128 SD Card.
Aand, the Video recording is not working.
But: The devs are amazing, and they put a whole lot of effort into this is project.
I have no doubt that these issues will be fixed soon
PS: Salut xD
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It looks interesting. I can flash that to get the sd card working, and I don't use video recording anyway. I only took a quick look at it, but it doesn't have root by default, does it?
I'm mainly hesitating because of a thing I read online, it said that flashing ROM's on your phone could eventually damage it, like its battery. Did you ever have any problems because of flashing ROM's?
I still have a year of warranty left, so I the risk is bugging me a little.
Ah, acum am observat. Salut xD

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It looks interesting. I can flash that to get the sd card working, and I don't use video recording anyway. I only took a quick look at it, but it doesn't have root by default, does it?
I'm mainly hesitating because of a thing I read online, it said that flashing ROM's on your phone could eventually damage it, like its battery. Did you ever have any problems because of flashing ROM's?
I still have a year of warranty left, so I the risk is bugging me a little.
Ah, acum am observat. Salut xD
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I think it's nice due to the fact that is the "Vanilla" Android, which is what I prefer, but it has options to customise it as per your liking.
Ahmm, regarding the battery questions: I've always flashed or built roms for my devices. And yes; Some roms are poorly optimised and your battery may take a toll.
But when a rom's device tree and kernel are optimised; You shouldn't face any issues. Eliminator and tabp0le are working on this rom, and so far the battery is not WOW, but I'm sure with time, they'll nail down the correct parameters.
Use sunshine (it's$25) to S-OFF (Use LOCKED), and if ever: something happens to your device, you just run a RUU, a fastboot command, and your phone will be like new.
NOTE: I, nor the ROM developers I've mentioned above cannot be to blame if something does happen, and your phone cannot be recovered.
Hope it helps

Hello guys,
if you are on Unlocked HTC 10 you should normaly see the May Update: ( 2.48.617.11 )
"http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-10/news/"
Downloadlink:
"http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_PERFUME_WL_N70_SENSE80GP_MR_NA_Gen_Unlock_2.48.617.11.exe?_ga=2.265404938.420368289.1497347079-248868702.1497347079"
Hope this helps you, if it is not integrated in your modded ROM ask politly the ROM-Team for integrating it.
Greetings from Germany ....

Zabouh said:
Hello guys,
if you are on Unlocked HTC 10 you should normaly see the May Update: ( 2.48.617.11 )
"http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-10/news/"
Downloadlink:
"http://dl3.htc.com/application/RUU_PERFUME_WL_N70_SENSE80GP_MR_NA_Gen_Unlock_2.48.617.11.exe?_ga=2.265404938.420368289.1497347079-248868702.1497347079"
Hope this helps you, if it is not integrated in your modded ROM ask politly the ROM-Team for integrating it.
Greetings from Germany ....
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Thanks. But that's the firmware for the USA unlocked version only. I have the European unlocked version, which is still on the January security patch, and that file doesn't work at all, right?
Cheers

Yeah, I don't think that the software for the US Unlocked version works on European unlocked.
I tried to change my 10's software to the US Unlocked back when they had the Nougat update, but no matter what you do, if you switch it and change the CID and stuff, you're left with the red warning text during boot. And the procedure to get rid of it is dangerous, complicated, and repetitive.
So unfortunately, we can't exactly do much about it but wait.

It's still on January Patch. That's just ridiculous. I'm not even talking about the Android version, that can be understandable. But lacking behind in monthly security patches is just unacceptable!

Apparently, we might finally get an update sometime these days.

When should we expect to see Oreo Roms?

Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?

hostilebynature said:
Sorry if this has been asked already, but like I asked, when should we start to see Oreo ROMs?
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Don't ask for ETAs.
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What's wrong with stock?
Aftermarket ROMs seem to introduce more problems than they fix, for the past 4 phones
I finally learned my lesson with the Nexus 6 and stuck with stock and a custom kernel. Xposed will be along and there is no reason for a ROM.
Substratum, ✓
Root, ✓
Android Pay/Netflix, ✓
Boot Animation change, ✓
Custom Kernel, ✓
Xposed, soon[emoji769]
What are the other reasons you possibly want to taint a great phone?
T.
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Some people enjoy the the mods that come with custom ROMs. Since the Nexus 5 I've been a huge fan of the contents by the team over at Dirty Unicorns puts out. Wouldn't mind trying out a DU Oreo rom if it ever happened.

XDA members usually like to flash...

galaxys said:
XDA members usually like to flash...
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Yep. If I recall from many years ago when creating an account on xda there was a check box you were required to check acknowledging that expected behavior.

Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?

dcillusions77 said:
Are any developers currently working on Oreo, or is this phone development dead?
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DU, Pure Nexus are working on Oreo if you know of any other roms that support this device check their source you'll see branches for 8.0

I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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localceleb said:
Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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My guess price this phone was super over priced compared to some of the other offerings in Android. Mid range is catching some great devices out there for little money

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.

AsuraDas said:
I am just curious what is putting a wrench in Pixel XL I just got this phone so am not up to date with nuances of this phone
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I'm using a moto-x pure now so I hadn't payed any attention to the Pixel/PixelXL development scene at all. I pre ordered a Pixel 2 XL last night which made me go check out development on the Pixel XL out of curiosity. From what I gathered after some research last night it seems the 2016 pixels have a "non standard" way of handling updates. Apparently there are 2 partitions/slots for system/vendor (slot A and B). I'm not going into details what this means, but the short version is that it made things more difficult for custom recoveries to deal with. Even with all the right parts in place flashing a ROM/GAPPS/Root means taking extra steps that every other devices I've ever dealt with didn't need. Nothing major... just extra steps.
Like I said, that's a VERY basic explanation of the situation. Maybe somebody else is willing to go into more detail, but that's the gist of it. It does look to me though that the most popular ROMs have either an official or unofficial build available.
There's also something to be said about the state of "official android" now, which these phones run. At least to me there is significantly less reason to need/want a custom ROM now compared to just 2 years ago. Now that "official android" has themes capability via OMS and a lot of customization options there is not a whole lot I personally want anymore. My biggest thing is "long back press to kill" which can be had with an app if necessary, "advanced restart" menu and of course root.
I think if the only thing I can't have while sticking with the official builds is the "advanced restart" menu then I can deal with it, I can run terminal commands to achieve the same thing. I can imagine the Pixel 2 XL being my first android phone that I finally stick with the "official builds" + root for the life of the phone. I'm sure I'll end up playing with ROMs once they become available but I don't know if it will be much more than playing around... I've always used ROMs mostly to get the "stock android experience" because I like it.. but since this phone comes with it and will get VERY TIMELY android updates I can definitely see myself sticking with what's official and no ROMS. I ALMOST did it with my Moto X Pure.. moto's official builds were damn near AOSP and I used them until it became apparent that I could't rely of them for OS updates post Lenovo buying Motorola.

localceleb said:
Nobody can seem to answer this... [emoji87]
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I can. The problem is with the dual slots. Pixel Dust was able to finally make a Oreo Rom for both Pixel and Pixel XL, however root is not possible yet. My suggestion if you want to be flash happy is to stay away from Google phones because from here on out they will all have dual slots.
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dcillusions77 said:
I'm staying on Nougat. Working TWRP recovery, running DU, and Franco Kernel. Seems like for me at least when I was on Oreo couldn't get the recovery to stick which was annoying. Went back to Nougat and all is well. Just have to wait for the Oreo's to start dropping.
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There was actually a updated twrp recovery this month and it sticks with Oreo now. Problem is that there is only one custom Rom for Oreo and currently root is not possible. That's with Pixel Dust Rom.

Updates

Since it is an Android One phone (with the promise of timely updates and security patches), I am curious that I'm still on an October update and not November's, which is now almost over. Anyone else?

Same here, hopefully delayed this once because of Pie update, but first Nokia so not sure about their track record

I am pondering to get this new device, but I see there is no XDA support yet for mods or roms
How do you feel about it?

I got the phone from work, but as a flashaholic I wouldn't go Nokia, search a bit Bootloader unlock I think only one of their device has it. If custom ROM and root is your thing check another brand

phaleg said:
I am pondering to get this new device, but I see there is no XDA support yet for mods or roms
How do you feel about it?
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Yeah.. I wouldn't expect any action here for custom ROMs. I've been a frequent flasher in the past, but as I looked for a new device, I found myself asking why. Frankly, security updates are more important to me at this point, and there really isn't anything I do that requires root.
This is also my only device, so I use it for work all the time, and custom ROMS always seem to have lingering issues with the basics.

I used to flash ROM on my Nexus devices, now on Nexus 5x I am on stock.
For my future device, if there is also XDA support is better, but it not a so important condition.
Maybe slightly offtopic, but how do you feel with this device at all?
Do you like the way it is stock?
I am mostly interested to battery duration, network and if photos are great

I would imagine that given Thanksgiving it's delayed until the end of the month.

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I would imagine that given Thanksgiving it's delayed until the end of the month.
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I don't really see why thanksgiving would affect the Devs/release, most of their R&D is in China, some in Finland, where it's not a big thing