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Greetings all,
I have a TMO Note 10+ and got it when they came out. My question is does my phone support 5G? I would hope so since I bought it when it was released. The model number is SM-N975U. I just got the upgrade (last night) to UI2 and Android 10, however I have no idea if this upgraded my phone to 5G. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
BH
Not entirely sure how it works over there but the Note10+ with 5G over here in the UK is SM-N976B and is specifically called "Galaxy Note10+ 5G" in About phone.
Edit: SM-N975U is not a 5G device but again not sure exactly how it works in the US with differing standards of 5G.
No unfortunately, 5G requires newer modern and thus there's a newest version of Note 10+ that's called Note 10+ 5G that you need to buy directly from T-mobile
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chargedbird said:
Greetings all,
I have a TMO Note 10+ and got it when they came out. My question is does my phone support 5G? I would hope so since I bought it when it was released. The model number is SM-N975U. I just got the upgrade (last night) to UI2 and Android 10, however I have no idea if this upgraded my phone to 5G. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
BH
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Wish it did (bought mine soon after it came out), but the Note 10+ (the SM-N975U) we have doesn't have the 5G hardware in it.
unless you specifically bought the 5G variant there is no way to get it as it is different hardware. it's the same reason in the UK the 4G model is dual SIM while the 5G is a single SIM as the 5G model includes a single 5G modem while the 4G model caries 2 of the much cheaper 4G modems.
it's why I made sure when I purchased to phone at launch to get the 5G variant as there is no software way to upgrade from 4G to 5G, the 5G variant could get on 5G from the day of launch the problem was finding a supplier and a mast that actually supported 5G, but the last couple of months at least in the UK coverage has improved and seems to be accelerating with more firms and towers expected to make announcements January.
The 5G Variant of the Note Plus is N976U - and from what I can see, the specs are the same as on the Note 10 Plus with the exception of the 5G capability.
Something interesting - I ran antutu benchmarks on a N975U (highest score was 475,000) and a N976U (highest score was 496,000) and I am curious why there was such a big score difference between the two phones - they are nearly identical in specs. Shouldn't their scores be closer?
The only other difference I can see is that the N975U was built in Vietnam and the N976U was built in Korea.
N976b my model 5g version from ee uk have android 10 also phone was built in korea
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Sorry Vietnam phone was made 17.9.2019 was made
If you wanted the 5g version of the phone you should have purchased the 5g version. They have been pretty clearly marked when you purchase them. Perhaps you can exchange your 4g for 5g if you are still within your return window.
855+
Geekser said:
The 5G Variant of the Note Plus is N976U - and from what I can see, the specs are the same as on the Note 10 Plus with the exception of the 5G capability.
Something interesting - I ran antutu benchmarks on a N975U (highest score was 475,000) and a N976U (highest score was 496,000) and I am curious why there was such a big score difference between the two phones - they are nearly identical in specs. Shouldn't their scores be closer?
The only other difference I can see is that the N975U was built in Vietnam and the N976U was built in Korea.
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The N976U for AT&T and T-mobile has the SD855+ that’s why the scores are higher than the non 5g note..
Actually no, Note 10 5G T-mobile has a regular 855 and not 855+
One plus McLaren has 855+
EDIT: It does have 855+ as pointed out below by @billyblonco2
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
billyblonco2 said:
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
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I stand corrected, thanks. On the spec page on T-mobile's site, it lists the processor as SM8150(SKU for regular 855) and not SM8150-AC which is the SKU for 855+ which made me think it has 855. MKBHD guy also thought One plus came with faster processor. https://youtu.be/nmnTAOU44SI?t=94
billyblonco2 said:
Actually it does have the SD855+. It’s as simple as downloading CPU-z or a similar app and compare the CPU and GPU speeds to the non 5g version and u will have your answer right in front of you.
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While it is hard to disprove when you apparently have evidence in your hand, I cannot see a single other place on the internet that references the Note 10+ 5G getting the 855+.
It would be interesting to see what's on the hardware tab in the Samsung phone info app.
Edit: Nice man, that's quite the device. Best SOC in the best handset.
Qualcomm didn't waste time differentiating overclocked hardware names on the chips. Even other 855+ phones don't say 855+ in cpu and hardware apps.
Samsung and the carriers don't want to upset people who bought the non 5g and advertise the 5g versions have overclocked chipsets .
I'm sure there's a good reason they didn't call it the 855+ but I'm doubtful it's so other customers aren't upset.
I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
enOrebmuN said:
I have an Exynos S20U that is LTE (or 4G) and i would like to enable it to 5G. Samsung for some reason decided to keep the 5G module on all phones but disable it on some and i find that unacceptable on a phone I paid 1400$ for.
I would like to see if this is possible (and also to change the text on the boot screen).
All input is appreciated. Thanks.
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buy a 5g model
elliwigy said:
buy a 5g model
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There isn't a 5G model in my country. Don't you think I would've done it if i could?
mikey_sk said:
sorry all s20 Ultra's should be 5G enabled?. Please ensure your phone is the correct one for your country/region and running the correct CSC code for yr network. make sure your network supports 5G and your tarriff is active with 5G etc
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Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
enOrebmuN said:
Some countries in Europe get the LTE version which still has the 5G modem inside the device, hence the identical model designation but it's not enabled. Even on the boot screen it says ''LTE'' instead of 5G, and on the box it doesn't even tell you that it has 5G capability. An idiotic move on Samsung's part tbh.
That's why i was asking if i could somehow bypass that and enable it manually.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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I've actually seen a teardown of the Ultra i'm using, and it has the exact same 5G modem as the advertised Exynos 5G G988B Ultra.
Thanks for the input.
CappyT said:
The only way to know that for sure is to tear the device apart and check if the 5G antennas are present, there is supposedly no other way to know.
For the bypass part, you need someone to actually understand how that modem works, create a custom firmware for that modem (which I guess is different for Exynos and Snapdragon models) and then enable 5G.
All of this will require significant reverse-engineering effort to work at all. You won't see a 5G enabler soon. Also, it will 99.9% require unlocked bootloader AND root, so say goodbye to knox.
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Forgot to add the source. https://www.techinsights.com/blog/samsung-galaxy-s20-teardown-analysis
Edit: Do you think that perhaps changing the CSC might do the trick?
Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
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Wow didnt realise there was an lte/4g only model of the s20 ultra. It doesn't make any sense is it much cheaper than the 5g version? What market is it sold in?
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As far as i know, Indonesia and some parts of SEA, and parts of Europe (Central and Eastern). Could be more widespread but in essence it's an exactly the same phone, same model number, identical internals as the 5G version, just with the 5G modem disabled for some reason. It doesn't cost a penny less.
try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
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try *#2263# and see if u can enable the 5g bands
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It doesn't let me
https://imgur.com/a/izcQ5sS
it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
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it is possible Samsung locked the 5G in S20 Ultra sold in Indonesia because Indonesia is still far away from the implementation of 5G.
Quoted from The Jakarta Post, "We'll be able to implement 5G services no later than 2022," said Association of Indonesian Cellular Operators (ATSI) chairman Ririek Adriansyah.
I guess Samsung is trying to save your phone battery from trying to search for 5G bands when it doesnt exist in Indonesia.
Try installing this app from google play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ray.samsungbandselection
If your phone has the antenna, it should show up here.
UNLESS...... samsung added the antenna but didnt load the antenna drivers into the firmware.. but that would be a stupid thing to do.
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That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
enOrebmuN said:
That's a good point but it seems strange as i live in Europe, in a country which promises 5G coverage by the end of the year (not country wide, but in major cities). Do you think Samsung could eventually release a patch to enable it?
Also yes, Samsung indeed added the antenna but there's 0 drivers.
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A CSC based switch is definitely possible, if you switch to a CSC from a country where the 5G model is officially sold, you might be able to use it, but no way of knowing for sure without visiting that country, switching the CSC and inserting a 5G-ready SIM card.
Has anybody tried and tested this?
What if you install a S20 5G firmware instead of the default one?
Please tell anyone how to enable 5g in S20 ultra Indian version.
Hello to all,
i recently bought the Galaxy S20+ G986N, mine is a korean version!
Now I accidentally read that the 3G/4G and 5G networks are limited! --> I did not know before!
Is it possible to unlock the networks?
Thanks in advance and regards
Daniel
PS:
Is it possible to unlock the Dual Sim version here? Since this is a SingleSim!
Allegedly yes if you bought the phone sans mobile network, pop you sim inside and talk to someone for 10 minutes, on your local network that is, it should reset to a "domestic" flavor of networks... it can be checked via the secret menu *#60# or something like that (google is your friend if not), dough snapdragon has no issue whatsoever with working on any network, the network locked ones and usa specific ones are a different thing, - even those can be made to work.
I was not aware any of the s10 and s20 series come with just a single sim as one slot can be used for sdcard and a sim... Give it a shot, you already bought the phone anyways...
I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?
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I also just mean the 5g net. I guess only the Sub6 n78 is activated here. The mmwave not at all!
The question is, does it have a software or hardware limitation? If software, which one can I install via odin?
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In fact 5G limited not only by software, but by hardware too, every band protocol of 5G requires appropriate specific antenna to be installed in your device. Moreover, you can't flash anything except the firmware designed for N version (no U/U1 whatsoever options) because of boot-loader.
Thanks for your reply.
For mmwave you need hardware, but I guess for Sub6 it's only limited by sw?!?
5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps
nguyenlucky said:
5g supported bands are limited by hardware.
Korean models only support 5G n78.
Hope this helps
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Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?
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Many thanks. Of course it helps...is there's a possibility to unlock the other frequencies which aren't limited by hardware?
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It's possible (4G bands) on some old phones (pre-835 era), but not so much these days though
Thanks for your reply. Not so much means, currently no possibility?
Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?
The only thing I could find from Google was this article https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/10082009?hl=en
Have you gotten the December update for your P6P yet? I believe it has some 5G fixes, although I don't use 5G so I can't speak about it first hand.
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?
5g not yet, but volte and vowifi yes
so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?
Blitzz.666 said:
Is there any way that I could enable it via custom rom/recovery/kernel, or magisk mods ?
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you can flash the radio
clipdawg05 said:
google blocks 5g in countries it is not sold in.
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Where did you read this?
Vio281 said:
so is tmobile Ultra Capacity the same as MMwave?
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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.
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It's just marketing. 2.5 GHz is the suburban mid-band 5G. mmwave is the very distance limited high-band 5G meant only for stadiums, parks, and dense downtown areas.
Both are marketed as ultra capacity.
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I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.
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I dont know about marketing...UC is consistently 10x quicker than regular 5g for me.
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I've been reading about T-Mobile 5G. Apparently there are three tiers. The first low wave isn't that much faster than 4G. Then included with UC there's medium 2.4 ghz wave which for me is a lot faster. I live in a medium sized city and I pick up UC most of the time. I was able to get 390 Mbps with medium wave. I haven't picked up the ultra high band yet, which is of course UC also.
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Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with the 5G mmWave & Sub-6 ? I'm asking because I'm in Romania, on Orange carrier, and have 5G plan. I had a Xiaomi Mi 11 which had 5G signal, but now with my P6P only LTE. Also no voLTE and no voWIFI.
I checked with them(Orange), they reset my network, tried eSIM, tried another SIM, still only LTE.
I get about 200 mb\sec, but I pay for 1.2 gb\sec(I know it won't be that fast, but with the Mi 11 I had about 450-500 mb\sec, and lower pings in everything). Does anyone know how to enable voLTE at least?
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The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
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The chances are your phone only has Sub6 and doesnt even have the necessary mmWave hardware anyway (unless you bought it in the states) so i wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.
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So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.
If it can't connect to the very short-range mmwave. You still get mid-band and nationwide 5G if your carrier has built it out.
But yes, it is a **** move that Google removes the antenna from Pro models that don't include mmwave. They just shove a piece of plastic to fill out the space.
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So my 5g phone can't connect to 5g ? Wow...nice move, google.
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What do you mean it cannot connect to 5G? Sub-6 will still get you more speed than you'll ever need and of course the main benefit which is capacity, also you're not going to have to stand next to the cell site to even get it, you can be miles away to benefit. mmWave isnt even deployed in most countries because in everyday use it is pointless.
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Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.
5G wont work in unsupported countries. At the ss you can see what country is supported in the Europe. You can just google it if you dont belive it (example: "5g blocked in unsupported countries google pixel")
Google blocks it, and is lying that is that countries operators fault. But it is obviously a lie. The theme is discussed from Pixel 4a 5G. Until now on the other pixels with 5G, you could install the magisk module, which unlocked everything, so how come it's the operators fault, if the lock was discovered in the software. Pixels 6/pro have a 5G modem from Samsung, so maybe that's the fault why you haven't yet been able to unlock via the magisk module
In summary, it's not about any frequencies, the Pixel 6/pro supports all 5G frequencies used in Europe. This is Google's fault alone, they are tardy and don't want to solve this problem, and probably just don't give a **** about the other countries. Best to spam on their Pixel forum and in the feedback, maybe they will finally wake up
I don't know if this helps anyone: Check carriers, their 5G networks & their 5G roaming support for Pixel phones. Make sure and choose your country from the drop-down to see the list of carriers beneath.
There's also the section above that Learn which Pixel phones can work with which kinds of 5G.
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Absolute nonsense ..
Here in Austria the pixel is not officially sold, 5G and VOLTE still work perfectly.
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you mix between unsupported countries, and official sales countries. there are so many countries which not official sales of Pixel but google just official supported carrier, and there are so many countries that they dont at all.
Hi folks,
I am not able to get 5G on my Samsung S22 Ultra here in India, which was imported from UK, so has the Exynos 2200 chipset. Although it supports all the 5G network bands required here, for some reason it does not switch to 5G.
Could you guys help me out. Is there any way to unlock the device or something.
Thanks
Me too
Any way to connect 5G.