General Initial impressions - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Got my Sunny Yellow one delivered this morning so been playing with it most of the day. Initial impressions are very good, some are listed below. Feel free to list your own.
The fingerprint scanner was a little off but after an update came in i deleted my fingerprints and re-did them and its been fine ever since. Couple of times it hasnt worked but i think thats because the screen is so smooth/slippery that my thumb slipped on the screen as it was trying to read it.
I dont have a 5g plan or even 5g signal where i am to test but so far 4g speeds are exactly the same as my pixel 2xl and oppo reno 2 ive come from.
I dont really like having the "internet" tile, id prefer having them seperate the wifi and mobile data tab. Just seems strange to add a further click to enable/disable wifi when i want to instead of just hitting the tab.
On the home screen if you make a folder then the apps slightly overhang the edge of the circle which just looks odd to me, i wish they were all within the folder.
I wish there was an option of disabling the big clock on the lock screen. I have a picture of my partner on my lock screen and when picking up the phone id rather see her than her face covered by a huge clock
The phone got very hot when setting up and transferring apps/data from my old phone but has been fine since.
I love the screen and how smooth everything flows. I dont see any issue with brightness personally. Ill see how battery life performs over the coming days

Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.

The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
The rounded edge screen is pretty terrible. There are optical distortions along the sides. The radius of the edge should be reduced to around 1 mm.
A little more width on the screen would be nice. This is 71.5mm. Nexus 6 was 74, which was a lot nicer. 80 would be a dream.
A little bit of border around the screen would also be nice so you have somewhere to actually hold the thing. Function should be paramount, not form, and especially not goofy/ugly form like these have. A bit of border above the screen would make space to get the camera out of the screen instead of the ugly hole. I also hate the rounded corners on the screen. Software rounded corners are ok, because you can disable them, there is no reason to force it with paint on the inside surface of the glass.

96carboard said:
The camera hump on the back really exposes the glass to potential damage. If I were designing the thing, I'd make the entire back stick out higher than the camera glass, and fill in the space with more battery.
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feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is

Love it so far, so fast and fluid. As mentioned above it gets real hot, and was still discharging while using old pixel charger.
Camera is amazing the details captured are stunning.
Phone is very slippery to hold and would be easy to drop with the top weight of the camera hump. Tried to buy a case for grip and protection, and was told that they can until tomorrow because that was the day the phone was supposed to be delivered, but because of our crap postal service they sent a day early so that people would or should get them by that date
Real time translation works very well, even with the new update still seems a little buggy
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
I could buy pixel charger which I might take back because it doesn't seem to charge an faster.
My wireless car charger for the pixel 4xl charges this phone at about the same speed as the old wall charger, need to see if it throttles for heat though..

dimm0k said:
feel the same way with filling up the space with more battery... but then you have ppl complaining about how fat the phone is
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I agree, but it also would be heavy

This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.

danw_oz said:
I agree, but it also would be heavy
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There as a day when heavy meant PREMIUM and light meant junk.
My laptop (lenovo), not even old, actually had some weights added into it to make it feel more substantial.
And so what if its a little heavier as long as it isn't burdensome. You can easily carry around several pounds without it being burdensome.

swieder711 said:
This is concerning "Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher." Hopefully there will be an update to Nova soon.
All the negative feedback on the rounded edges are making me consider the Pixel 6 versus the Pro. I think the base RAM on the 6 is fine. Giving up the Zoom is tougher to consider.
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If you were referring to the rounded CORNERS, there will be kind-of software solutions for the rounded corners. Right now you can run "wm size 1440x2890" to reduce the display area (persistently). This brings the display area past the camera hole and past the rounded corners. Now normally, there would be a system property available to adjust the corners, however this one has multi-radius corners which are set in a config for systemui, therefore will actually require a rebuild from source to fix, but once that is unset, it should have square corners.
However the side effect of course, will be a slightly smaller display area. Still wider than the non-Pro, but less than it is now. Not that you need all that height for any practical purpose.
And for that matter, you could use the same "wm size" command to reduce the display width to work around the rounded edges. "wm size 1300x3120" pulls the display area all the way into the flat part and eliminates the optical distortions. You could probably establish a better balance that lets it in just a little bit and probably gives the same width as the non-Pro.

ozzjim1 said:
Hollow screen sound is a bit strange
Nova launcher crashes which is a shame because I don't like the search bar forced at the bottom of the screen on the pixel launcher.
Camera is brilliant
Power button is in the wrong place and should be swapped with the volume buttons is.
Lack of screen protectors available to get delivered is frustrating but not Google's issue.
It's fast, smooth and had a great camera. The rest I am still get used to. Prefer it to my S21 ultra, maybe not loving it as much as my Mi 10 Pro.
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Nova Launcher was crashing for me but it seemed to be a clock widget I had previously and it wasn't displaying it.
I deleted the widget and rebooted the phone and it has been perfect since and all day today.
My screen now looks like my 3XL only longer, faster, smoother

I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?

Thanks for the tip on Nova, might rebuild my screen from scratch with it too ID the issue. The pixel launcher without some custom apps and grid sizes is a bit of a jarring experience. Search at the bottom is all wrong too.

magooo said:
I can't find a was to Turn off Always on Display. Ist ist me, or isn't there an option?
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settings, display, lock screen, turn off "always show time and info"

danw_oz said:
Screen for me is fine for brightness I have high brightness mode widget and it is much brighter than the 4xl
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Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.

Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Have you gotten the small 70 MB Android update yet? Mine was buggy with Nova Launcher Prime, in particular, but after the update, all good.
I like the fingerprint reader better than the ultrasonic in my Note 10+. It's working much better and faster for me so far. Here's hoping that stays true.

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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id suggest resetting then. Working fine for most people

Keith W said:
Not sure what is up with my unit but it as buggy as hell
Not impressed so far if I am honest
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Could you describe what you mean by "buggy as hell"?

wekebu said:
Whoa! There's such a thing? Please, the name of it.
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Search play for high brightness mode or HBM software by @flar2 an amazing kernal and software developer

According to Goggle I have a defective unit and they are going to swap it out

Related

[Q]How bright are your touch keys?

Are they bright or dim? I remember my first Note 3 had brighter touch keys than the one I'm currently using. This kind of bothers me but I don't want to make any decisions just yet because the Note 3's are very inconsistent and I don't want another with more problems and find out all Note 3 have dim buttons. :silly:
Edit: Pictures added. This 5mp camera on my LG-v909 does no justice haha but as you can see its very low. The touch keys are brighter in the photos but IRL they look very dark and washed out.
lm that guy said:
Are they bright or dim? I remember my first Note 3 had brighter touch keys than the one I'm currently using. This kind of bothers me but I don't want to make any decisions just yet because the Note 3's are very inconsistent and I don't want another with more problems and find out all Note 3 have dim buttons. :silly:
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Can you possibly post a pic so we can see what you are talking about? Never known keys to have lighting issues
dragonstalker said:
Can you possibly post a pic so we can see what you are talking about? Never known keys to have lighting issues
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Hey, sorry for the delay, pictures added
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Hey, sorry for the delay, pictures added
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Looks pretty much normal to me. I'm no lighting expert, but looks the same as mine giving it's pics and not side by side.
Not sure how you would be able to rate this without having two phones side by side to know for sure unless it was a drastic difference.
I can't see anything wrong with the images you posted, look normal to me.
It looks normal to me to. I sort of feel like other Galaxy devices were brighter. The note looks good either way though.
Also, if they were brighter they would probably be more annoying/noticeable. I think I remember looking down at them on the Note II a lot more.
The white is really bright, the black is dimmer. Its the same on all of them in my experience.
aooga said:
The white is really bright, the black is dimmer. Its the same on all of them in my experience.
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I tend to agree with this. My GSII was black, and they weren't that bright, but my Note 3 is white, and they are so bright it makes the screen look dim when they are on even with the screen brightness at 50%. Forget at night. They blind me! LOL
I disabled them on my white Note 3 as they shine bright and bleed quite a bit.
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I disabled them on my white Note 3 as they shine bright and bleed quite a bit.
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Ah yes. I forgot to mention that. Bad bleeding. The whole area around them light up.
bobbyphoenix said:
Ah yes. I forgot to mention that. Bad bleeding. The whole area around them light up.
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Yeah, they do bleed.
I just started a thread about the issue I'm having with mine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50144333
I might just turn the lights off, very bright. Should be an option to dim them.
My black Note3 is just fine. My old white SGS3, though, bled a bit in pitch black darkness, but it didn't really care because it was so subtle and not worth complaining about (SOME people actually returned their phones over it *hah*).
Anyway, I really wish the Note4 would ditch capacitive buttons, then how bright they are is a non-issue. I want my next phablet to have onscreen nav buttons, like the direction LG and Moto are going.
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Anyway, I really wish the Note4 would ditch capacitive buttons, then how bright they are is a non-issue. I want my next phablet to have onscreen nav buttons, like the direction LG and Moto are going.
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why not get the phone that has the features you want like above mentioned LG or Moto? I want hardware buttons so I have full use of the screen and that's part of the reason I picked Note 3 over other phablets and unless there is no bezel at all, I would be disappointed if part of the screen was wasted for things that could be off screen. If LG and Moto are trying to save few cents on hardware buttons, among other things, that's fine, but that's part of the reason I won't buy them.
Going back to the topic, as far as I can tell from the pictures it looks fine, similar in brightness to the screen icons, probably that's how I would want them, but honestly isn't it a little nit picking? I would never return the phone for such a minor thing since by now I don't even look at it no more, I know by heart where it is and yep there is a chance new phone could have some other problems, like crooked button for example. I'm sure there is a setting where it could be adjusted, especially if it's true that black Note 3 has lower setting than white, but not in user accessible menu.
Maybe developers could figure it out?
pete4k said:
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but why not get the phone that has the features you want like above mentioned LG or Moto? I want hardware buttons so I have full use of the screen and that's part of the reason I picked Note 3....
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Because Samsung still features a removable battery and microSDXC slot. That's really the main reason I've stuck with 'em.
(And software nav buttons really take up almost no space (and even less when configurable in the ROM); zero in immersive mode. I'd rather have the phone physically shrink w/o h/w buttons.)
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Because Samsung still features a removable battery and microSDXC slot. That's really the main reason I've stuck with 'em.
(And software nav buttons really take up almost no space (and even less when configurable in the ROM); zero in immersive mode. I'd rather have the phone physically shrink w/o h/w buttons.)
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You say almost no space but in reality it takes up .2" of screen. So a Moto X goes from 4.7" to 4.5". A Note 3 would go from 5.7" to 5.5" which is the same as the Note 2, effectively erasing the size difference between the 2 phones.
I personally don't want on screen nav buttons. If I'm buying a 5.7" screen I want to use 5.7". I understand some people may have other preferences, but the screen is the #1 feature of a phone, you look at and touch it 100% of the time.
I don't even know how on screen system buttons work, since I never had one, but if they permanently cut off 0.2 inch off screen , NO WAY. This would mess up everything: all the 16:9 1080p movies are then 1020p with border all around or are they no longer proper 16:9 ratio? Is the edge of the movie just cut off, or is every single frame rescaled to fit smaller area? And why would I ever want to have this, to admire huge empty bezel? Or to have more fingerprints and smudges on my screen
And yes exactly, all those companies cut out SD card slot, removable battery and hardware buttons most likely to save few pennies. So Samsung has my money.
I turn soft key lights OFF!
I cannot possibly forget that menu is one side and back is on the other. The fact that I'm reading about this "bleeding" being an issue is manna from Heaven. I don't understand why anybody would keep them on! Not to mention night use.
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I don't even know how on screen system buttons work, since I never had one, but if they permanently cut off 0.2 inch off screen , NO WAY. This would mess up everything: all the 16:9 1080p movies are then 1020p with border all around or are they no longer proper 16:9 ratio? Is the edge of the movie just cut off, or is every single frame rescaled to fit smaller area? And why would I ever want to have this, to admire huge empty bezel? Or to have more fingerprints and smudges on my screen
And yes exactly, all those companies cut out SD card slot, removable battery and hardware buttons most likely to save few pennies. So Samsung has my money.
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No the Nav Buttons disappear when playing a movie. But when using the phone they are there so they become intrusive in my opinion.

played with a Pixel XL today

Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
Thanks for the info! - Man.... that's whetted my appetite
adamsweeting said:
Thanks for the info! - Man.... that's whetted my appetite
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Obviously I need to see some reviews, and the price is something each individual will have to decide on for themselves, but I was impressed. I didn't order one yet, since I haven't decided if 32gb is enough (probably not), but barring some seriously bag reviews, this will be my next phone
Nice! I'm on the Google wait list :good:
If you guys have a Best buy near you, the guy specifically told me that this was not his phone, and it was given to him for express of letting geek's like me check it out if they asked. I don't know if all locations are the same, but the one here has a Google display with all their chromebooks, and an actual Google employee there that you can talk to.
I might check Best Buy out...thanks
this makes me so hyped that I preorded the 128GB quite black. Hurry up and ship!!!! lmao
Thanks for the info OP!
Thanks for the info!
Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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Can you tell us anything about screen quality, brightness compared to your Note 5 and S7 edge?
droidguy22 said:
Can you tell us anything about screen quality, brightness compared to your Note 5 and S7 edge?
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Looks better than my note5 which is getting something that looks like light bleed after a year. This is subjective, but it looked comparable to the S7 edge. I'm sure detailed reviews will tell us technically which one is better, but in Best Buys lighting, to my untrained eye, the Pixel looked at least as good as the S7. The colors looked good, it was bright, and the color saturation looked good to me, but Amoled screens are all I've been staring at for the last year. This may be because I'm not a fan of the edge screen, or it could have been because of the glare or distortion that it causes, but the Pixel screen looked "crisper" to me if that makes any sense. I can't point exactly to the reason why, everything just looked a little clearer to me.
Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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#2. This was not mentioned in the videos because it is an android 6.0.1 feature, it's not new to the Pixel devices.
Khilbron said:
#2. This was not mentioned in the videos because it is an android 6.0.1 feature, it's not new to the Pixel devices.
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I was just going to post that. I use that on my 6P all the time.
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Notice how bright or how noticeable the notification led under the ear piece is?
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Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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I am from Indiana my self, Noblesville just north of Indianapolis. Can you tell me what best buy? You can PM me the location if you like.
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I am from Indiana my self, Noblesville just north of Indianapolis. Can you tell me what best buy? You can PM me the location if you like.
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Mishawaka, the same guy also spends a couple days a week in Merriville
How does it fit in the hand and how is the one-handed usability compared to the nexus 6p?
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How does it fit in the hand and how is the one-handed usability compared to the nexus 6p?
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Sorry, I can't compare it to the 6p, since I've never held one. Fits in the hand more comfortably than my note5 though. With the swipe function in the fingerprint sensor, one handed usability seemed great. I am a small guy, and the fingerprint sensor was easy to reach, and I was VERY impressed with how the phone felt
The main question is. How was battery life? Lol. Jk. But were you satisfied overall in your short time with it? Did it feel like a whole new android experience. Or just another phone? Thanks
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Ryano89 said:
Went to local Best Buy today and the guy at the Google booth had black XL that he let me pay with for a good 15 minutes.
Quick thoughts: 1.The black looks really nice, like really nice!
2. A feature I haven't seen in videos, double tap the power button opens camera app imcredibly qyickly even with a locked phone. Makes my Note5 camera look slow.
3. He had the 32gb version with 21gb available, but he had quite a few photos and store demo software on it, I'd expect 23gb available out of the box.
4. It had pre-production software and Assistant was not fully functional on it.
5. Swiping down on the fingerprint sensor to bring down notification bar worked perfectly and I'm already in love with this feature.
6. It is very light, and much more comfortable in hand than my note5
7. Sweet lord it is fast and smooth in comparison to my phone AND more importantly my wife's S7 edge (snapdragon 820)
8. Snapped a couple of pics, under the fluorescent lighting and compared then to same pics with Note5.......PIXEL LOOKS BETTER!.
9. Size wise, it is just a pinch smaller than Note5, screen looks definitely better.
10. He was also carrying a 5x, there is obviously not comparison,in terms if screen and performance
That's what I can think of off the top of my head, typing this in Best Buy parking lot. Lol
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double tapping the power button to open the camera is already a feature on the 6p. i use it all the time.
Double tapping the power button to open the camera is a standard feature on most AOSP ROM's on most phones.
I use it on my current Moto X Pure.
Works locked or unlocked. Been doing it this way for over a year now.

Buying Google Pixel 2 XL in 03\2018

So it's time to change my old phone to the new one. I want to buy Pixel 2 XL but I'm so frightened because this phone has launched with a poor screen quality. Did someone buy this phone in february or in march and could tell me something about Pixel 2's blue-shift, burn-in or grain?
I think the screen it's good I don't have a lot of blue shift, but I think you must pay attention to the 4gb of ram , I have 4 mobiles and 3 of them are 4 and 3 GB of ram and they suffer a lot on multitasking.
And now I have a one plus 5t with 6gb of ram and that's much better.
By the phones are , Google pixel 2 xl, s8+ , ipx .
But the rest you're be good with pixel 2 XL , speed , fast updates, by the way the android P its right on the corner
I purchased the pixel 2 xl 15 days ago and yes, it has blue shift, but no more defects or burn in. My aunt has a S8 and I'd recommend the pixel 2 over the S8.
In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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In my opinion, blue shift is overrated. Burn in issues seemed to be solved. Only the first batch at launch seem to be affected. Plus Google gives you a 2 year warranty so that should give you some peace of mind.
My girlfriend has the iPhone X and my roommate has the Note8. I highly recommend the Pixel 2 XL over both the phones.
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Agreed about the blue shift. Way over criticized. I only notice it when... I read someone post something about it then I go look, say to myself, yep, its there, then continue on like nothing at all.
However, if I was buying a phone right now, I would hold off until I can hold the S9+ in my hands. With most sites saying its just a refreshed S8+ I would prolly pass and stay with Pixel.
This phone is top notch. Switched from the S8+. No looking back.
I'll weigh in:
I just got mine last week (third week of Feb '18) via a Best Buy deal. The phone was built in Oct of '17. I was coming from a Note5 which I really loved.
Lots of things to like, a few things to niggle naggle about and a few things to really hate.
Likes:
Oreo 8.1+
Squeeze Assistant
Fingerprint reader gestures
Google Lens - It's amazing.
Camera. Just wow.
Lots of things you can customize without root (via ADB)... You can move the nav buttons around, etc...
Battery life is simply great. I get 4+ hours of screen time and can go 8+ hours while sleeping and only loose a percentage or two. It's quite amazing actually.
Dislikes:
Not a fan of the fingerprint reader on the back... to use it, you always have to pick up the phone... on other models where the reader is on the front, you can unlock the phone while it's flat on the table or work desk or whatever. Having it on the back does have some upsides though... so this one isn't a big deal.
Not a fan of the power button and volume keys all being on the same side and so close together... I find myself pressing one when I mean the other.
Rounded corners on the screens... seems like a good idea aesthetically but you actually loose a fair amount of real estate... for example, the status bar icons are moved in a fair amount to compensate for the rounded corners so you get a lot of black space to the left and right of the ends in the status bar... I would never sacrifice function for form like that. Dumb.
Blue shift. It's there... not a big deal but it's there.
Hate:
Extremely long charging times. Just to go from 90 to 100% is like an hour++. This is in NO way a quick charging phone.
No charging LED indicator. Boo. I did load an app for that but Boo.
No wireless charging. Boo and boo.
Double Hate:
Screen protectors are a nightmare with this device. I've never had such issues finding decent, inexpensive protector that doesn't curl, bubble, etc... and I can't find any quality tempered glass protectors. There are a couple liquid adhesive protectors out there but they cost 1 arm and 1 leg. Really?
I'm really hoping the charging time issue can be fixed in a future OS update. It seems that this started happening after the Feb '18 update. We'll see.
I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
Jinthegodstyle said:
I was going to give mine to try an iPhone X and then to come back to pixel but i have felt in love with this device.. Blue shift exists a little bit but I had forget that issue.. I agree with the charging time that sucks from 90-100% but overall it's an fantastic device.. On mine i have deleted nav bar, i use only gestures and its a pleasure all this huge screen with these nice rounded corners..
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
simpsonr said:
Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
UPDATE: Oh, I guess in Nova you can just turn the nav bar off. Will it allow for all the proper gestures for recents, back, home?
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Yes I am rooted. I am using nova launcher but it doesn't matter. I used all in one gestures app from play store. The nav bar hide automatically if you don't use it. You can set it on premesive mode threw app. But now i have deleted at all nav bar with an command on build editor and i use only gestures.
Here I made a video month ago how I had it and how will work. (now it's totally different )
https://youtu.be/BA7jey09SXw
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Thx!
I purchased mine 3 weeks ago, it was produced in November 2017, and the screen doesn't have any of all the issues reported right and left.
It has a very slight blue tint maybe when you look at it at an angle... but you know what? My Galaxy S7 edge has it too. AMOLED displays HAVE blue shift, no technology is perfect.
I'm pretty happy with mine. I'm far from being your typical Google/Nexus/Pixel apologist, but after having Samsung flagship phones for years, I can honestly say the Pixel 2 XL is the best phone I've ever owned :good:
It doesn't have all the bells and whistles a Galaxy or Note has, but it works so great, without any issue. Everything with this phone feels silky smooth, without a single dropped frame. Everything you try to run looks "effortless" and easy for the Pixel. I'm amazed by that phone
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Can you give some details on your nav bar deletion decision? Do you have to root for that? What launcher, Nova? How to you get your recents, back, home functionality and map them to gestures?
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You don't have to root to get rid of the nav bar. There is a Substratum theme that changes the nav bar to any size you want including 0. I found it here on XDA. I'll see if I can find it and link to it when I get home.
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Here is a link for the nav bar height
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...-height-changer-android-nougat-t3447956/page1
and here is one I use to fix the lock screen swipe issue
https://www.xda-developers.com/fix-lock-screen-swipe-gesture-issues-android-81-oreo/
I just sold my 7 plus and received my pixel 2 xl yesterday. The blue shift isn't bad, it's only noticable to the person on the side of you looking at your screen. Screen quality doesn't seem bad but colors may be dull to some. There is a Oreo colorizer app that will force the display in wide color gamut mode which richens up the color. Google does offer a new vivid saturated display mode but that app works way better. Only thing I don't like is how Snapchat looks like poo.. which it does on every Android but yeah.. this is probably the best camera quality you will get on Snapchat Android due to visual core enhancing the photos which does a pretty damn good job!
On a cold rainy cloudy dark Washington day, camera doesn't look as nice as what my iPhone 7 plus would've took with it's camera..

:confused: ONE thing you HATE about the Fold?

if you HAD to pick one Negative about the phone, what would it be?
amongst the list of things i don't like, i must choose the one thing i use every single day, multiple times a day.
the POWER Button.
my previous device (huawei mate 20x), had a taught power button which didn't wiggle around, satisfying click when pressed, and for a bonus, textured and colored.
the Fold: aside from failing to combine the Power button and the Fingerprint Scanner, the power button on the Fold is just like any other Galaxy device: cheap, thin, loose, and mushy to press.
anyone else have something that erks them using the phone daily?
I have problems with the fingerprint reader. I misplace my finger a lot. I miss FaceID it was so much smoother.
I don't use the button. I double tap the screen instead.
The front screen sucks. I can't text, email on it. It's so small. I love My fold, but the front screen kills me!
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It's a tablet on the inside but all my apps act like phone apps and not built for the tablet.
gman901 said:
It's a tablet on the inside but all my apps act like phone apps and not built for the tablet.
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Change your dpi / minimal width, then you'll get tablet ui
Thanks, it worked for a lot of my apps except Flipboard. For some reason it keeps acting like a phone app even when I set it to 952 dpi.
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The front screen sucks. I can't text, email on it. It's so small. I love My fold, but the front screen kills me!
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here is something almost everyone doesn't think about when wishing for an edge to edge, top to bottom, front display:
how much imbalance it would create on the phone. one handed use would be completely be gone.
- for someone not using a launcher: reaching up top to swipe down notification shade
- whether using standard navigation buttons, or using edge swiping: imagine reaching all the way down just to hit he navigation area
- people who use swipe one handed for text, it actually is perfect ergonomically the way it is now.
- not everyone has big hands
during and even before the Fold presentation almost a year ago, everyone was criticizing the front screen size without thinking about it in depth, and people STILL criticize it in newer videos, made 2 or 3 months ago.
all they see is bezel and think "its 2019/2020, wtf are we doing with huge bezels?!?!?"
i hope samsung doesn't listen to all these brainless people moaning and groaning about screen to body ratio % in their next folding tablet device.
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What DPI did you set it too?
Jeshter2000 said:
What DPI did you set it too?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-fold/help/tablet-mode-t4040217
see this thread.
good luck!
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What DPI did you set it too?
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850
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_sC said:
here is something almost everyone doesn't think about when wishing for an edge to edge, top to bottom, front display:
how much imbalance it would create on the phone. one handed use would be completely be gone.
- for someone not using a launcher: reaching up top to swipe down notification shade
- whether using standard navigation buttons, or using edge swiping: imagine reaching all the way down just to hit he navigation area
- people who use swipe one handed for text, it actually is perfect ergonomically the way it is now.
- not everyone has big hands
during and even before the Fold presentation almost a year ago, everyone was criticizing the front screen size without thinking about it in depth, and people STILL criticize it in newer videos, made 2 or 3 months ago.
all they see is bezel and think "its 2019/2020, wtf are we doing with huge bezels?!?!?"
i hope samsung doesn't listen to all these brainless people moaning and groaning about screen to body ratio % in their next folding tablet device.
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Actually the front screen doesn't have to be all the front, but it definitely needs to be wider. It's just to narrow to write fast and without issues. It works, but it's cumbersome. I mostly swipe or dictate because typing is too annoying ?
To your main question, one thing I hate about the Fold:
There are some things which could be better, like the fingerprint reader integrated into the power button, no notch, S-Pen support, wider front screen, glass screen, IP ratings, faster charging (like Note10+) and much much more... but there's just 1 thing which really annoys me: the selfie cameras. They're all ****ty. Even compared to S7 until Note10+ it's just ****. The can't focus on something you tap. All Samsung flagships can do it. It's so ****ty I don't take any selfies anymore. Even using GCam doesn't change anything because it's a hardware thing. To be honest, they could have added the Note10 selfie cam on the small front and no other cameras. They could also remove the notch since the cameras are very bad ?

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the OnePlus 8, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the OnePlus 8 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My review of an OP8.
OK - here's my 4 day review of my OnePlus 8. Just FYI, I had (and still have) a OnePlus 5, whic I will probably give to my Father.
Day 1. The box arrives. I ordered one of the PopUp boxes which has in it two extra backs (green and black) as well as a transparent one. It also comes with the OpenPLus Z headphones. It's a large box and came in an even larger cardboard box with padding.
I unboxed it and checked - it had 51% charge, so I deemed it OK to start installing. It connected to my network and immediately did an O/S upgrade. All the normal Android stuff then proceeded and I was up and running.
I used InePlus switch to get all my apps and data across from the old OP5. The only thing it missed was all my WhasApp history - but that may be because I installed it first.
Day 2. I'd fully charged it during the day and I left it unplugged overnight. It lost 5%. Considering it's a new device, I thought that was OK. So, out for a walk to check the GPS (my OP5 would not work properly) and see how the camera was. GPS still suffered and I was considering sending it back. See Day 3. Camera is lovely. Just having OIS is a vast improvement and the quality is well acceptable for a phone (I'm a camera nut and have some quite good ones). I'll play more later. I ordered a 5G sim.
Played with the OP Z headphones. They are nice but a bit bassy. So, as I use VLC and that has an equaliser, I turned the bass down a bit - and that made all the difference.
Day 3. Decided that OnePlus can't have screwed up GPS that badly. So investigated. I found that GPS was set to 'advanced' which meant it pulled in location information from phone masts and wifi. Not sure how that makes it advanced, so I disabled it. Went out for another walk with my tracking app - no issues. Humm. I wonder if my OP5 would have done that?
Played with panorama mode. It's interesting, but I'm not sure I'll use it much as it curves everything around the horizon which is not what I expected. Tried out the slo-mo mode. Yes, I can see some uses for that.
Played around with the screen. Decided I don't like curved screens that much as the edges (where it tails away) are hard to press and that's where odd things are that you need to press. But I guess I'll get used to it. Tried my Kindle app. It went over the camera. OK - set it so the screen doesn't include the camera, but it would be nice if that could be done pn an app by app basis rather than all or nothing. OnePlus decided I needed yet another O/S upgrade, so I let it do that.
Day 4 - Out for another walk, this time with a couple of Garmin devices. GPS is still OK - a bit optimistic (it gave me 2.6 miles where Garmin gave me 2.5) but that may be the app. Had my OP Z headphones on - very comfy. Played more with the camera. The macro is really good. 2x is OK, more than that, I won't bother.
Tried my Readly app (magazine reading) whic doesn't really suit the phones aspect ratio. Oh yes, tried making phone calls. Call quality is superb.
I've ordered a flip case. Should be here by the end of May (has to come from China).
Overall? If I'd know what I know now, I'd probably have ordered a 7T but only because it has a flat screen, and I'd lose out on the 5G (which we have in my area). The PopUP version gave me £100 worth of freebies which was nice.
Comments and questions welcomed.
Alan
alan sh said:
OK - here's my 4 day review of my OnePlus 8. Just FYI, I had (and still have) a OnePlus 5, whic I will probably give to my Father.
Day 1. The box arrives. I ordered one of the PopUp boxes which has in it two extra backs (green and black) as well as a transparent one. It also comes with the OpenPLus Z headphones. It's a large box and came in an even larger cardboard box with padding.
I unboxed it and checked - it had 51% charge, so I deemed it OK to start installing. It connected to my network and immediately did an O/S upgrade. All the normal Android stuff then proceeded and I was up and running.
I used InePlus switch to get all my apps and data across from the old OP5. The only thing it missed was all my WhasApp history - but that may be because I installed it first.
Day 2. I'd fully charged it during the day and I left it unplugged overnight. It lost 5%. Considering it's a new device, I thought that was OK. So, out for a walk to check the GPS (my OP5 would not work properly) and see how the camera was. GPS still suffered and I was considering sending it back. See Day 3. Camera is lovely. Just having OIS is a vast improvement and the quality is well acceptable for a phone (I'm a camera nut and have some quite good ones). I'll play more later. I ordered a 5G sim.
Played with the OP Z headphones. They are nice but a bit bassy. So, as I use VLC and that has an equaliser, I turned the bass down a bit - and that made all the difference.
Day 3. Decided that OnePlus can't have screwed up GPS that badly. So investigated. I found that GPS was set to 'advanced' which meant it pulled in location information from phone masts and wifi. Not sure how that makes it advanced, so I disabled it. Went out for another walk with my tracking app - no issues. Humm. I wonder if my OP5 would have done that?
Played with panorama mode. It's interesting, but I'm not sure I'll use it much as it curves everything around the horizon which is not what I expected. Tried out the slo-mo mode. Yes, I can see some uses for that.
Played around with the screen. Decided I don't like curved screens that much as the edges (where it tails away) are hard to press and that's where odd things are that you need to press. But I guess I'll get used to it. Tried my Kindle app. It went over the camera. OK - set it so the screen doesn't include the camera, but it would be nice if that could be done pn an app by app basis rather than all or nothing. OnePlus decided I needed yet another O/S upgrade, so I let it do that.
Day 4 - Out for another walk, this time with a couple of Garmin devices. GPS is still OK - a bit optimistic (it gave me 2.6 miles where Garmin gave me 2.5) but that may be the app. Had my OP Z headphones on - very comfy. Played more with the camera. The macro is really good. 2x is OK, more than that, I won't bother.
Tried my Readly app (magazine reading) whic doesn't really suit the phones aspect ratio. Oh yes, tried making phone calls. Call quality is superb.
I've ordered a flip case. Should be here by the end of May (has to come from China).
Overall? If I'd know what I know now, I'd probably have ordered a 7T but only because it has a flat screen, and I'd lose out on the 5G (which we have in my area). The PopUP version gave me £100 worth of freebies which was nice.
Comments and questions welcomed.
Alan
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How is the overall size and weight of the device compared to the OnePlus 5?
KingUsman said:
How is the overall size and weight of the device compared to the OnePlus 5?
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It's the same width and a bit taller.
Alan
alan sh said:
OK - here's my 4 day review of my OnePlus 8. Just FYI, I had (and still have) a OnePlus 5, whic I will probably give to my Father.
Day 1. The box arrives. I ordered one of the PopUp boxes which has in it two extra backs (green and black) as well as a transparent one. It also comes with the OpenPLus Z headphones. It's a large box and came in an even larger cardboard box with padding.
I unboxed it and checked - it had 51% charge, so I deemed it OK to start installing. It connected to my network and immediately did an O/S upgrade. All the normal Android stuff then proceeded and I was up and running.
I used InePlus switch to get all my apps and data across from the old OP5. The only thing it missed was all my WhasApp history - but that may be because I installed it first.
Day 2. I'd fully charged it during the day and I left it unplugged overnight. It lost 5%. Considering it's a new device, I thought that was OK. So, out for a walk to check the GPS (my OP5 would not work properly) and see how the camera was. GPS still suffered and I was considering sending it back. See Day 3. Camera is lovely. Just having OIS is a vast improvement and the quality is well acceptable for a phone (I'm a camera nut and have some quite good ones). I'll play more later. I ordered a 5G sim.
Played with the OP Z headphones. They are nice but a bit bassy. So, as I use VLC and that has an equaliser, I turned the bass down a bit - and that made all the difference.
Day 3. Decided that OnePlus can't have screwed up GPS that badly. So investigated. I found that GPS was set to 'advanced' which meant it pulled in location information from phone masts and wifi. Not sure how that makes it advanced, so I disabled it. Went out for another walk with my tracking app - no issues. Humm. I wonder if my OP5 would have done that?
Played with panorama mode. It's interesting, but I'm not sure I'll use it much as it curves everything around the horizon which is not what I expected. Tried out the slo-mo mode. Yes, I can see some uses for that.
Played around with the screen. Decided I don't like curved screens that much as the edges (where it tails away) are hard to press and that's where odd things are that you need to press. But I guess I'll get used to it. Tried my Kindle app. It went over the camera. OK - set it so the screen doesn't include the camera, but it would be nice if that could be done pn an app by app basis rather than all or nothing. OnePlus decided I needed yet another O/S upgrade, so I let it do that.
Day 4 - Out for another walk, this time with a couple of Garmin devices. GPS is still OK - a bit optimistic (it gave me 2.6 miles where Garmin gave me 2.5) but that may be the app. Had my OP Z headphones on - very comfy. Played more with the camera. The macro is really good. 2x is OK, more than that, I won't bother.
Tried my Readly app (magazine reading) whic doesn't really suit the phones aspect ratio. Oh yes, tried making phone calls. Call quality is superb.
I've ordered a flip case. Should be here by the end of May (has to come from China).
Overall? If I'd know what I know now, I'd probably have ordered a 7T but only because it has a flat screen, and I'd lose out on the 5G (which we have in my area). The PopUP version gave me £100 worth of freebies which was nice.
Comments and questions welcomed.
Alan
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The curved edges is the only thing putting me off from buying this phone. Would have already ordered one otherwise. Almost bit the bullet and ordered one anyways, thinking maybe I wont hate the curved edges that much, but since you've already done that for us I'd rather just get your impression first. I'm considering getting the OP7T, Realme X2 Pro, Oppo Ace2 or Poco F2 Pro at this point, do you think you would have liked one of these flat display phones more?
I've got used to the curved edge and don't really notice it any more. Is it better than at 7T? I can't really say, but considering I use my headphones when out and they are really comfy, I'm glad I got the boxed set on day 1.
At the moment, the only irritating thing is the display - the adaptive stuff doesn't really work (too granular) but I have to use it in bright sunlight as it seems to be brighter with it on. But even that is very minor. Battery life is very good. With all my apps loaded and just display off, it loses less that 0.4% each hour. (in 12 hours of not using it, it lost 4%). That's with Wifi and bluetooth turned on and a poor 4G signal.
It's had 3 or 4 O/S upgrades since I bought it. Which is good as it means OnePlus are on the ball. I'm just waiting for Wifi Calling to be enabled in the UK (OnePlus - are you listening here?).
Alan
Coming from an OP6, I'm slightly finding it hard to love. Or love as much.
I had the OP5, went to OP6 and I loved the changes.
Now going from the 6 to the 8, not sure I made the right choice!!
Let me explain..
1. The 6 was far easier to hold, the 8 just feels a bit cumbersome compared.
2. The fingerprint sensor on the 6 was amazingly good. On the 8, it's not as accurate, on the wrong side, and at night it's like the flash light coming on. Should have kept it at the back. But I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to pretend it got rid of it too.
3. The curved screen is just annoying, as selecting anything on the curved part is bound to fail on the first try.
4. No head phone socket? Just why? Again I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to copy.
5. The new sandstone cover isn't as thin, looks a bit budget and rather chunky like the old bumper covers. Without the cover is very slippery and hard to hold.
6. No more notification LED on the 8, Oneplus phones don't have an always on display, so the LED light was a nice feature. Now you get neither.
I'll keep using it, hopefully will get used to it more..
shock-UK said:
Coming from an OP6, I'm slightly finding it hard to love. Or love as much.
I had the OP5, went to OP6 and I loved the changes.
Now going from the 6 to the 8, not sure I made the right choice!!
Let me explain..
1. The 6 was far easier to hold, the 8 just feels a bit cumbersome compared.
2. The fingerprint sensor on the 6 was amazingly good. On the 8, it's not as accurate, on the wrong side, and at night it's like the flash light coming on. Should have kept it at the back. But I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to pretend it got rid of it too.
3. The curved screen is just annoying, as selecting anything on the curved part is bound to fail on the first try.
4. No head phone socket? Just why? Again I suppose Apple got rid of it so OnePlus had to copy.
5. The new sandstone cover isn't as thin, looks a bit budget and rather chunky like the old bumper covers. Without the cover is very slippery and hard to hold.
6. No more notification LED on the 8, Oneplus phones don't have an always on display, so the LED light was a nice feature. Now you get neither.
I'll keep using it, hopefully will get used to it more..
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That's something I've always wondered.. why use a screen side fingerprint scanner. Backside ones are easier to use, faster and more accurate.
I don't have any issues with the fingerprint reader where it is. I came from a OP5 so I guess I'm just used to it being there.
Alan
shock-UK said:
6. No more notification LED on the 8, Oneplus phones don't have an always on display, so the LED light was a nice feature. Now you get neither.
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There are some really good Apps available to use the pixels around the camera for notifications. Give that a try.
What apps can do that?
mrozu615 said:
What apps can do that?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xander.android.notifybuddy
I am using this app. Purchased the Pro version. Really useful.
firoz3321 said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xander.android.notifybuddy
I am using this app. Purchased the Pro version. Really useful.
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Does it work with the screen off?
BeardKing said:
Does it work with the screen off?
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Yes.
Can add LED simulation by default, in pro more flexibility to choose icons of apps as notification and size can be changed. I ended up using LED option though i purchased premium.
It definitely serves the purpose as a notification LED. no issues so far. Battery usage is also less.
firoz3321 said:
Yes.
Can add LED simulation by default, in pro more flexibility to choose icons of apps as notification and size can be changed. I ended up using LED option though i purchased premium.
It definitely serves the purpose as a notification LED. no issues so far. Battery usage is also less.
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Awesome! Thank you.
alan sh said:
I've got used to the curved edge and don't really notice it any more. Is it better than at 7T? I can't really say, but considering I use my headphones when out and they are really comfy, I'm glad I got the boxed set on day 1.
Alan
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Hey,
I have a 7T and I'm considering the 8 for the 5G, the 12 GB of RAM, the great battery life, and the slightly lighter weight, but the curved edge can be turn-off, and of course the 8 Pro is heavier and more expensive.
What are your thoughts on the 8 after almost a year? Are you rocking a case? Would you make that switch from a 7T if you had it?
No, I wouldn't switch. I don't think it's enough of a leap. To be honest, my OP5 was nice enough apart from the camera and the GPS, both of which were substandard. I think the 7T is plenty good enough. I have only ever had a 5G signal once since I got it and 4G seems to be fine.
Alan

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