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Titanium vs My Backup Pro

Hello all
I think this thread would be highly relevant since we are all in the business of continuous wipes and ROM installs.
I have been using two programs for my backup needs: Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. I know the two apps are quite different, but ultimately their purpose is the same. I list brief observations about the two:
TItanium BAckup
1) Backs up all right, but stalls on some programs while restoring, restarting Sense. In order to resume, one has to uncheck that program from the restore list
2) Creates a single, unified backup, thus saving disk space. But also, I haven't found a way to restore exactly the apps that I had last - it only restores ALL the apps in its backup history, meaning it is a cumulative history of apps rather than latest snapshot. The options are either 'restore missing apps' or 'restore all apps'. Am I missing something?
3) Closes down everything while backing up - something of a minor irritation
4) Does not restore my Sense desktop fully
5) Some restored programs are prone to errors or missing data
My BAckup Pro:
1) Generally quite slower than TB
2) Backs up everything, allows to restore only the apps I had last installed
3) Restores Sense desktop quite well
4) Sometimes stalls in the process of zipping the backup or unzipping it again. But always picks up from where it left.
It turns out MBP is slightly better. But I'd love others' feedback on this.

I've found TB to be highly advanced in Apps backup area compared to MBP. TB allows app freezing, which virtually allows you to uninstall a nagging system app with an undo option. And with the latest version it even allows uninstalling system apps!!
Bye Bye Teeter, Peep and the like.

Yes, you are right it is more 'advanced'. But for me more important than saving a few MB by removing system apps is getting my whole apps and desktop back undamaged and without errors etc, and in this case I found MBP to be better.
As I mentioned above, Titanium does not offer an easy way to restore the EXACT apps I had before wipe - it either offers 'ALL apps ever backed up' or nothing. Again, that might be my misconception. But as I said, it does stall on too many apps.

talhamid said:
Yes, you are right it is more 'advanced'. But for me more important than saving a few MB by removing system apps is getting my whole apps and desktop back undamaged and without errors etc, and in this case I found MBP to be better.
As I mentioned above, Titanium does not offer an easy way to restore the EXACT apps I had before wipe - it either offers 'ALL apps ever backed up' or nothing. Again, that might be my misconception. But as I said, it does stall on too many apps.
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will have to agree with u TB is quite annoying stopped using a while ago
the only problem i have with MBP is the contacts and calender restore so i stopped using them
i just log on to my gmail and sync my contacts and calender
and as for app restore, its works great never had any errors and i usually restore with data.

TB does allow single apps to backup or restore.
I have backup and restored single apps many times. U can set it to backup only user apps an optionally add the system ones. You simple press menu->batch->backup user apps then you can go through the list and tick/untick those apps you wish to backup or not.
I have found TB so easy to use for whatever combination of backup restore i feel like doing. Also the scheduled backup is a life saver!
for these reasons i have donated to this app!

Been using the paid version of Titanium since I got my Desire and love it. Have never had a single issue or experienced any of the problems listed...

i always used titanium earlier but since i tried MBP.... i generally uninstall titanium from the custom roms of flash. for me MBP is the best love it

I have paid versions of both TB and MBP, and only have one installed on my phone now.
Which one?
Titanium.
I've not experienced a single one of the issues that the OP mentioned. As has been said previously, even in batch operation you can select/deselect the apps you want to backup or restore.
To the OP: Are you using the paid version of Titanium?
Regards,
Dave

Yes, I am using paid version. I am aware of the option to restore single apps as well. I have been using both for months.
Actually, my problem is this: I have about 167 apps that I am currently using (or pretend to be using anyway!). TBP has a backup of these 167, PLUS many other apps that I backed up earlier but uninstalled. Now when I wipe, and then restore, I have to uncheck the apps I had uninstalled from the restore list. Second problem is, TBU stalls on some apps and reboots Sense, and will continue only if I keep looking at the progress bar, notice which app causes the crash, and uncheck it from restore list.
MBP provides multiple backups, allows me to back up JUST the apps I have installed RIGHT now, and restores them without a problem. it also restores my desktops quite nicely.

when you do a full backup of all the apps and system apps of course sense will crash , because TB shuts sense down to back up the files !
Thats the case with all the running apps, because you can choose
Kill active apps OR Exclude active apps !
You can choose a batch to backup the NEW programs in TB.
its in the list.
Backup All new apps & newer versions
I use the paid version and im very happy with it, it works great.

talhamid said:
Now when I wipe, and then restore, I have to uncheck the apps I had uninstalled from the restore list.
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If you don't want the backups for the uninstalled apps, why not just use the batch operation to delete them?
Second problem is, TBU stalls on some apps and reboots Sense, and will continue only if I keep looking at the progress bar, notice which app causes the crash, and uncheck it from restore list.
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I've never experienced this issue, so I can't comment.
MBP provides multiple backups, allows me to back up JUST the apps I have installed RIGHT now, and restores them without a problem. it also restores my desktops quite nicely.
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TB backs up your desktop too, if you select the right options.
Does MBP now have something similar to Market Doctor from TB?
Regards,
Dave

The Sense stall comes during RESTORATION not BACKUP, and on certain specific apps.
Secondly, yes I have seen the option, but what about restore. I have 'restore missing apps', 'restore all apps', and 'restore newer apps', none of which exactly matches my requirement.
Also, I know with the 'right options' I can restore the desktop with TB too, but it is restored in a broken way with many widgets missing.

Does MBP now have something similar to Market Doctor from TB?
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Actually yes but I have currently the problem, when restoring all apps with their data, they won't show up in the market until I reinstall one app (does not matter which one) and then you will see all your installed apps in the market. Can anyone confirm this ?
Besides that it won't restore 3rd party widgets at your homescreen but I'm almost using all launcherpro plus widgets and the lpp config will be anyway saved through MBP app backup.
I'm using MBP quite often to restore everything and it's quite impressive imho and definitely well worth its money. Never had a big issue with it except the small ones mentioned above.
Best Regards

How about, "Delete backups of Uninstalled Apps"
I used that after every full backup to make sure when I restore it doesn't restore uninstalled apps.

OK, I didn't notice the 'delete backups of uninstalled apps' - so my bad.
That said, I think MBP does what I need with far fewer clicks. Perhaps this is because it has less features.
One thing I can't get around is the error messages I keep getting with TBU.
Guess will have to keep both

talhamid said:
Also, I know with the 'right options' I can restore the desktop with TB too, but it is restored in a broken way with many widgets missing.
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I suspect that this may be due to the order in which the backups are restored. It's possible that TB restores the Sense homescreen data before some of the apps and widgets that are on the homescreens have been restored, causing the problems you mentioned.
I've no particular interest in testing it because I don't generally feel the need to backup and restore my homescreens, but if you are, I'd suggest trying to restore your apps and then try to restore your homescreen data.
One other great feature of TB is its integration with App Organizer. Using this, you can label your apps and then backup/restore by label. For example, I do play some games on my phone, but due to space restrictions I don't keep them on the phone at all times. Using App Organizer, I label all my games as "Games", and I then in TB I can backup/restore by that label.
Personally, I think TB is a much more flexible tool than MBP, but with that flexibility comes complexity, which means that MBP is probably superior for less technical users.
Regards,
Dave

To be honest i am a Lover of
My Backup Pro,
When i first flashed my phone, i was told by a number of people to use
Titanium
So i got it installed it,
and it come to flashing my rom, i loaded it up,
And was blown away by the number of options,
For me and my honest opinion and what i need it for,
Its far to over complex and does not always perform correctly,
After fafing around for a while i finialy managed to Backup my apps and Data,
And restoring them was a faf, And when i did some Apps didnt load / crash
At this point i never give it the time of day,
I got My Backup on the go and Wow was it easy and fast.
In the Time messing around with options in Titanium i would have backeup all my Apps and Data, and every settings and contacts SMS and MMS Alarms, well pretty much the whole phone using My Backup,
It was Super easy, no fuss, no messing, it backs up and restores,
Restoring is just as easy, select all, or Deselect ones you dont want to restore, if its Settings or A Couple of Apps,
So after loving it i paid for the Pro Version,
Never looked back

the_rebel said:
I've found TB to be highly advanced in Apps backup area compared to MBP. TB allows app freezing, which virtually allows you to uninstall a nagging system app with an undo option. And with the latest version it even allows uninstalling system apps!!
Bye Bye Teeter, Peep and the like.
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I am trying right now to uninstall Facebook widget and devices is rebooting...
Any suggestion
P.S.: Leedroid 2.0c ROM

I have been using My Backup Pro since day 1 of having an Android phone. But I am so sick of this POS app. Every single time I restore my apps to a newly rommed phone a number of them force close. If I uninstall those and reinstall fresh from market, they then work fine, so I completely blame this app.
I am not referring to widgets, btw
My question is, before I dump this POS and buy Titanium, has anyone experienced similar problems with it?
Thanks

Hi Barsky,
According to your question, I didn't encounter any issues with user apps + data restore.
However, in order to succesfully use all the features of Titanium Backup (reffered as TB) you have to be an aware user.
This means that you either backup everything and make custom restore, or you backup with a proper selection of things and restore everything. What do I mean?
1. You probably don't need to hesitate backuping user apps+user data, that comes pretty straight-forward.
2. You also probably don't need to worry when you upgrade your ROM.
3. The problem arises with rom/system applications and settings when changing (not upgrading) ROM (Froyo/GB, Sense/AOSP etc). What I found quite safe is:
BACKUP:
- backup everything in TB
- use Calls Logs & Backup from the market to backup calls log
- synchronize contacts and calendar with google​
RESTORE:
[don't allow google synchronization before restoring calls log if you don't want to have call log with unbound telephone numbers]
- use Titanium Backup to restore Call Logs & Backup application
- use Calls Logs & Backup to restore calls log
- restore selective tasks in TB:
[be aware that restoring Widgets/HTC Sense may cause conflicts]
# Accounts
# Bluetooth Pairings
# HTC Sense (If you use Sense - and I have suspicion this can cause conflicts, but not sure yet)*
# Bookmarks
# SMS/MMS/Apn
# E-mail account settings
# Wi-Fi Access Points
# SMS/MMS Prefs
# ALARMS​
- reboot
- enable google synchronization for contacts and calendar (I don't restore contacts with Titanium Backup since: 1. It's not necessary, 2. It causes FC on some migrations)
- restore all user apps+data from TB​
Always make nandroid backup along with TB backup. I also advise making nandroid backup after restoring everything mentioned above except HTC Sense and Widgets, and then try to restore those two (if needed).
Obviuos tip - selective restoring can be done by executing 'batch restore' and then selecting from the generated list.
When I got all that, I am happy with TB. I don't expect perfect Backup&Restore tool, since there are too much defragmentation in Android platform.

[Q] Xfer all needed stuff to new phone??

Hi all - I freaking love these forums, you guys are awesome. What a great community here.
I searched the forums for a walkthru of setting up a new phone from the old one; if it's here somewhere and I missed it, feel free to just point me to it and I'll manage it from there.
So I'm just getting my new AT&T GS III probably today, replacing my stone-age Captivate. I've done a BIT of hack work on the Captivate, it's rooted etc with firmware v2.2, build Froyo.UCJI6. I've got Titanium Backup Pro v5.7.3 running currently. My question is regarding backing up and restoring my settings, market purchases, contacts, saved games (important!!), etc onto my new S III.
For backing up, is it simply a matter of running the batch "backup of all user apps + system data" on the Captivate (which I do weekly), then copying over all the backup files to my removable SD? As long as I run a backup of all apps/data so I just take the files with today's mod date? If I need them all, is there any easy way to batch copy ALL of the files to my SD rather than taking a half-hour to select/deselect the files I need on my tiny Captivate screen?
My bigger concern is that the restoration goes OK on the S III, as they have different versions of the OS. In the Titanium prefs, there are a TON of settings so I'm don't know what I need to focus on or if it's all set to 'auto-pilot' restore on a new phone. I assume I have to first root and then install Titanium on my new phone, just not sure what to do from there? (BTW, can I do a fully-functional restore on the free version of Titanium with my paid version backups? Or do I need to purchase it again on my new phone?)
Thanks in advance, I LOVE this place!!
Tom

teebob2000 said:
Hi all - I freaking love these forums, you guys are awesome. What a great community here.
I searched the forums for a walkthru of setting up a new phone from the old one; if it's here somewhere and I missed it, feel free to just point me to it and I'll manage it from there.
So I'm just getting my new AT&T GS III probably today, replacing my stone-age Captivate. I've done a BIT of hack work on the Captivate, it's rooted etc with firmware v2.2, build Froyo.UCJI6. I've got Titanium Backup Pro v5.7.3 running currently. My question is regarding backing up and restoring my settings, market purchases, contacts, saved games (important!!), etc onto my new S III.
For backing up, is it simply a matter of running the batch "backup of all user apps + system data" on the Captivate (which I do weekly), then copying over all the backup files to my removable SD? As long as I run a backup of all apps/data so I just take the files with today's mod date? If I need them all, is there any easy way to batch copy ALL of the files to my SD rather than taking a half-hour to select/deselect the files I need on my tiny Captivate screen?
My bigger concern is that the restoration goes OK on the S III, as they have different versions of the OS. In the Titanium prefs, there are a TON of settings so I'm don't know what I need to focus on or if it's all set to 'auto-pilot' restore on a new phone. I assume I have to first root and then install Titanium on my new phone, just not sure what to do from there? (BTW, can I do a fully-functional restore on the free version of Titanium with my paid version backups? Or do I need to purchase it again on my new phone?)
Thanks in advance, I LOVE this place!!
Tom
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I did the whole transfer-of-backups process when I got my current device, migrating over from an even more ancient device than your Captivate.
For the backup process, you could fairly easily tell TiBu to use the SD card for its backup storage - that would probably be the easiest way to get the backups in the right place for the move. Other than that, you could, for example, use ADB to pull the backups off of your phone, use one of the cloud storage services that TiBu Pro supports, or find a file manager app that lets you select everything readily (or even just the TiBu folder - one folder isn't that much of a stretch to move) and move it over to the card.
For the restore process, you want to be careful with exactly which system data settings you choose to restore, as - especially across major Android versions and across devices - restoring many of them will just confuse your device as opposed to doing anything useful. Most of the important things - such as your contacts (assuming you have it set to do that, which is the case by default) and market account purchases - aren't stored on the device, but associated with your Google account, so just logging back in with your account on the new phone will restore a lot of that information easily; in particular, this makes it extremely easy for TiBu to find its licence again (once it's on your device).
Hope that's of help

Don't backup system data with titanium, just the apps. I've had some luck backing up sms and WiFi passwords with titanium and restoring them on different roms, though you should use the xml backups (colored in yellow). Your contacts and market purchases should already be synced with your Google account, so if you use the same account on the new phone all of that data will follow.
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For the restore process, you want to be careful with exactly which system data settings you choose to restore, as - especially across major Android versions and across devices - restoring many of them will just confuse your device as opposed to doing anything useful. Most of the important things - such as your contacts (assuming you have it set to do that, which is the case by default) and market account purchases - aren't stored on the device, but associated with your Google account, so just logging back in with your account on the new phone will restore a lot of that information easily; in particular, this makes it extremely easy for TiBu to find its licence again (once it's on your device).
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Thanks for the reply! Do I at some point in the backup or restore process have the option for which system settings are restored?
Also, I'm not sure my contacts are backed up online, is that with my gmail account? I don't think I ever explicitly set that up but I do check gmail on my phone. How can I tell whether it's linked up and already backed up online?
Thanks!

You can check your saved contacts here:
https://www.google.com/contacts/#contacts
When you select to restore in tb you will be given a list of apps/settings to restore. Un check any items that you don't want to restore before confirming the operation.
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Before I restore my Titanium backup to the new phone, do I have to have all the apps that have backed up data already installed on the new phone?

How do I get Titanium Pro to backup Torque user screens?

I'm trying to backup all of the Torque Realtime screens because of the time it takes to make them but it's not working! Does Titanium Pro really backup "User Data" which I would assume that these screens would be??
Someone here has to have done this if they have these 2 apks and backed Torque up using Titanium Pro! Any help much appreciated. It must be in one of the Backup or Restore settings but I can't figure out which one!

In the Preferences of Titanium, tap on Backup settings, and put a tick in the Backup app cache box. Make sure the folder you're saving the backup files to is empty, and then do a backup, but just the Torque app. only.
You then copy that entire folder with what Titanium has saved for Torque to your new device, install Titanium Pro on it, go into Preferences, Restoration settings, and ensure a Tick in the box next to Migrate system data. Then, restore the app. and it should come back the way you had it on your donor device.

@djshotty , very much appreciate your response. Am trying your method now but need to know which 'batch actions' to 'restore' listing to use. I've been using "Backup all user apps" to backup and I've been using "Restore all apps with data" and then 'Deselecting all' and only selecting Torque and then do the Restore. Where, except what you mentioned, have I been doing wrong???
Just finished testing and still the same problem. I did a backup, ticking places you mentioned using a new empty folder, and then did a restore(of Torque only). It looked the same....BUT I next erased one of the PIDs on one of the screens. Then without doing another backup, I restored that same backup and what I erased is now gone. In other words, the backup should have restored the screen the way it was backed up!...must be another 'tick box' that I have ticked or don't have ticked that needs to be. One other thing, I don't have any scheduled backups set so they don't change my testing while trying to find what the problem is. Thanks for helping!

On the Batch actions - ALL screen, Run the Backup all user apps + system data, then Deselect All, scroll down to find Torque, put a tick in the box, tap the green tick at the top right of screen and back it up.

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On the Batch actions - ALL screen, Run the Backup all user apps + system data, then Deselect All, scroll down to find Torque, put a tick in the box, tap the green tick at the top right of screen and back it up.
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@djshotty apparently you aren't reading my post correctly. I have backed up Torque and stated in my post. I am not trying to migrate my settings to another unit as you mentioned. Titanium Pro should never change a backup once its been backed up. That's why one can do multiple backups. If I make a mistake and delete an app that's been backed up, Titanium can restore it. Why you are getting defensive? I have said nothing but that I have followed your instructions and they did not work. Titanium is not restoring my backup as it was when I backed it(Torque) up. Proof: I backup Torque and then make a change to Torque. I then restore Torque and the changes that I made are in the backup that gets restored!!! And that's without doing another BackUP...just Restore.
I'm just asking for help from anyone that uses Titanium Pro that can guide me to where in the settings that must be wrong to cause my problem. Thanks again for attempting to help!

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I almost peed my pants after reading this...lol
If the steps outlined are not working something must be wrong with the application installed, or a pebkac error... I too have used TB for years since since the HTC Incredible came out and have never had a problem when following these same steps. I have never known TB to change a previously created backup.

matt1981m said:
I almost peed my pants after reading this...lol
If the steps outlined are not working something must be wrong with the application installed, or a pebkac error... I too have used TB for years since since the HTC Incredible came out and have never had a problem when following these same steps. I have never known TB to change a previously created backup.
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@matt1981m, instead of peeing in your pants, why don't you attempt what I have posted and then post that it works for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its obviously changing my backup. If you use Torque, make a backup, go back into Torque and just change one easy PID on one of the screens by deleting the PID, and then restore your backup just for Torque and see if that PID is really still there where it was. Then post your reply! I'm not saying that Titanium Pro has the problem, I'm trying to find out why and how to fix my problem with Titanium's backup! I thought this site was for members to get help and to offer help to those that need it instead of making derogatory remarks about someone's problems with any app. If you check most of my post, you will find that I attempt to help others instead of criticizing them...

I apologize if you felt I was criticizing you. That was not my intention. I have torque pro installed and configured on my HU. I haven't had any issues, and I haven't specifically tried modifying the PID as you have mentioned, but I have used TB to restore settings for Torque Pro. I will be installing a SoM upgrade to a RK3188 in a couple days, depending on USPS, and I will update this thread at that time to share what results I have with the current versions of both apps.

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I apologize if you felt I was criticizing you. That was not my intention. I have torque pro installed and configured on my HU. I haven't had any issues, and I haven't specifically tried modifying the PID as you have mentioned, but I have used TB to restore settings for Torque Pro. I will be installing a SoM upgrade to a RK3188 in a couple days, depending on USPS, and I will update this thread at that time to share what results I have with the current versions of both apps.
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Thanks Matt, for your reply. I have been using Titanium for months without problems. But when changing one of the screens in Torque, NOT Modifying the PID, but deleting one PID or adding a PID, and then change my mind and want it back like when I backed it up, it restores the screen as I last modified it after the backup! Since I changed it, it's different than the backup. The backup should return the screen to when I backed it up. It does not! I will add that I never tried this before.......and I just used Malaysk's Lollipop ROM to upgrade from KItKat 4.4.4 to LP 5.1.1.....Thanks @Malaysk ,don't know that has anything to do with the problem. It appears, from the way that mine is doing, that Titanium is monitoring in the background and keeping my changes overriding the backup when they are different. I'm very new to the Android devices and have a very lot to learn about root and different apps. Please try when you get the SOM upgrade and duplicate what I tried and post results here. I use paypal and will pay for the solution to the problem if one exist! Thanks again

I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.

matt1981m said:
I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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will do, and thanks.....having no problems with 5.1.1.....but I don't have access to anything but wifi on the road, so no phone, no internet,,,,,just music, GPS, and off-line maps...bjut well worth it.

matt1981m said:
I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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will do to Malaysk, and I'm having no problems with 5.1.1

DWilks said:
I backup Torque and then make a change to Torque. I then restore Torque and the changes that I made are in the backup that gets restored!!! And that's without doing another BackUP...just Restore.
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That's because Titanium replaces the files in the data folder with what it's stored away. If there are new files with different names containing the changes you've made to the app., they won't get overwritten.
I'm just asking for help from anyone that uses Titanium Pro that can guide me to where in the settings that must be wrong to cause my problem. Thanks again for attempting to help!
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Because of how Titanium does it's thing, there's no 'Setting' that will force it to overwrite the install folder's files when it hasn't actually got them stored away. When you make changes to the app.'s system files, they get changed from what Titanium backed up. You're asking to restore your old settings for Torque over the top of what you changed? Then go into your device's Settings menu, Applications, Application manager then delete all data for Torque and then uninstall it. Next, restore the app. from Titanium directly, and you'll be back where you were at the time you backed the app. up.

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Save/restore /sdcard/.torque

I have the same issue. I've reset my phone and restored all apps using Titanium Backup yet the custom screens I had created for Torque, including my vehicle profile, weren't restored. My backups for all other apps and data restored fine, except Torque.

ShieldOfSalvation said:
I have the same issue. I've reset my phone and restored all apps using Titanium Backup yet the custom screens I had created for Torque, including my vehicle profile, weren't restored. My backups for all other apps and data restored fine, except Torque.
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Glad to help you on this problem ShieldOfSalvation. That was one of the most frustrating problems that I had and couldn't get an answer that worked. Those screens are a pain in the ass to have to keep making.
Here's a solution that worked for me: All of your screens & vehicle settings are located in a folder called ".torque" (without those quote marks) .torque . It's located in the "internal storage sdcard" as in this location "internal storage sdcard\.torque . That 'slash mark' might be flipped the other way...as in / instead of \...I don't remember which.
You need to copy the folder .torque WHILE YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SCREENS THAT YOU SET UP to an External device like the EXTERNAL SDCARD (GPS CARD if you have one). And then, after you have completed whatever upgrade or process that you have done that erases your "screens and vehicle settings" and goes to default, JUST COPY YOUR SAVED .torque FOLDER BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL LOCATION AND OVER WRITE THE ONE THAT'S NOW THERE. You can also rename the .torque folder that's in the internal storage sdcard and paste the SAVED .torque folder there. If you don't make any changes to your screens very often, keep that .torque folder with your screens in a safe place and just copy and paste it over the default one. If and when you do make changes, make sure to recopy .torque folder and store it in a safe place .....that's it....Hope it works for you!

DWilks, if you're right, then when I get home tonight I should be able to restore that .torque folder because in addition to Titanium Backup Pro I also use SyncMe Wireless by bvaisoft to backup the entire internal SD card and external SD card (including my Titanium Backup archives) to a network hard drive on my LAN. In this case where TB Pro appears to have missed that folder, SyncMe should have saved my hide. It snapshots the entire SD card's files and folders. I will come back with results later.

SyncMe did backup my .torque folder in the internal SD card because I had it set to copy hidden files and folders nightly. After copying it back to my SD card from my network share backup location, I was finally able to see my vehicle profile again in Torque and my custom dashboard is back. Thanks, DWilks!

Non Root FULL backup and restore solution ?

Hi
Does any one has any suggestion for a FULL backup solution and that can backup ALL my apps and settings and restore on the same phone?
I plan to change my CSC AND didn't really want to reconfigure accounts and app settings again. I had to go through that after smart switch and still took me couple of hours.
Thanks
Don't know why Google can't fix this most pain in the a** problem of Android compared to iOS. Segmentation is not an excuse.

No such thing.
Use APK Export* to back up your apps minus settings unless individual apps like Poweramp, PD MDM, etc support it; back these files up to your SD card along with -all- internal memory files you wish to save.
Back up your contacts.
Then back these up to a computer.
I use my SD card like a data drive, makes reloads much easier.
*Doing this means no waiting for downloads or navigating Playstore trying to remember what to load.
If also allows you to use apks Playstore dropped or were "upgraded" to trashware versions.
You can backup system apks and their updates as well.
A very useful apk, no ads, no bs.

Question Want to root and unlock - what's the quickest way to get back installed all the apps I currently have?

Question as per title. All my photos, music, videos are cloud based anyway. The only thing I'm concerned about is apps. What's the quickest way to reinstall my apps? Last time I chose to restore from a Google account, it started to install ALL my apps, even ones that weren't installed when I performed the reset (meaning ones I had downloaded but since uninstalled, going back years)

Swift backup

bugac said:
Swift backup
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Is that similar to Titanium backup? I used to use that long ago but the interface was horrendous and I never took the time to fully understand it. Is it even still actively developed, and worth learning about? Or has Swift superseded it?

If you value your data always back it up redundantly to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Cloud apps can fail you miserably. At least use a second backup method is cloud is the primary.
That includes apps. If you don't keep installable copies they may be lost forever or you will be forced to sideload from questionable sources.
Playstore is not a reliable repository.
Use ApkExport to make installable copies of apps and updates, load directly from the drive.
You want cross platform installable app copies that you can load on most Android devices not just your current one. Apps are critical data, back them up.
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com

They will be automatically reinstalled if your device is synced to google.
Data and configs are lost though...
If it reinstalled old apps then check if it's properly synced.

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They will be automatically reinstalled if your device is synced to google.
Data and configs are lost though...
If it reinstalled old apps then maybe if it's properly synced.
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They might be, but as my OP stated, I've had the situation where it installs more than what was on the device

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They might be, but as my OP stated, I've had the situation where it installs more than what was on the device
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Take direct control. Nothing like a bunch of unwanted app installs/uninstalls to mess up a reload.
With Google you're not the customer, you're the product.

Swift backup worked a charm, thanks everyone

A suggestion I've read in the past, but have not tried myself, is to use OnePlus's app, now Clone Phone, to perform a backup. The file gets placed in internal memory under "opbackup". Copy the file off the phone prior to wiping it. Put the file back afterwards and perform a restore from within Clone Phone.
I cannot speak to if all app settings are restored.