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Typical Cell Standby Usage Percentage

What is everyone's cell standby battery usage, percentage wise?
Mine is 41%, which seems a bit much.
My battery is down to about 30% in about 6 hours (most of which was in standby).
I'm trying new roms and kernels, so I'm trying to determine whether or not that's the problem.

Today mine is around 34% and I have seen it as high as 41%..After almost 13hrs still at around 65% battery but I've been light on my phone today.

I've been incredibly light on my phone today.
When in some of my classes, I have horrible/no service. I'm thinking that has a lot to do with it.
Are some ROMs or kernels more heavy on the battery when not in service than others?
With my stock rom and kernel, my battery didn't last long, but it was much better than this.

Im usually about 41% also seen as high as 43% but only once....as long as your time without signal is low I don't think its that big of deal..but, if they is a way to lower it without goin into airplane mode would that help battery life?

Well if you guys' cell standby usage is as high as mine, then I guess that it isn't the problem.
I was just asking because it seems like I remember hearing that some phones increase Tx power when they don't have service in an attempt to get a signal.
Mine cycled through 1 bar, roaming and no service for about 50 minutes while in class today.
Maybe I'll just try different ROMs and kernels and find a combination that works for me.
~7 hours of use isn't cutting it since I was getting significantly more time with the stock ROM.
Thanks, guys.

tamas413 said:
Well if you guys' cell standby usage is as high as mine, then I guess that it isn't the problem.
I was just asking because it seems like I remember hearing that some phones increase Tx power when they don't have service in an attempt to get a signal.
Mine cycled through 1 bar, roaming and no service for about 50 minutes while in class today.
Maybe I'll just try different ROMs and kernels and find a combination that works for me.
~7 hours of use isn't cutting it since I was getting significantly more time with the stock ROM.
Thanks, guys.
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A typical battery usage in standby with only 3G on (mobile data always on = off, gtalk = signed off) should be between 1-2%. In 6 hours of standby, you should not have lost more than 6-12% of battery charge. A full charge should be sufficient for about 3-4 days of standby.

nabbed said:
A typical battery usage in standby with only 3G on (mobile data always on = off, gtalk = signed off) should be between 1-2%. In 6 hours of standby, you should not have lost more than 6-12% of battery charge. A full charge should be sufficient for about 3-4 days of standby.
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That's more like what I'm looking for. What am I missing?

tamas413 said:
That's more like what I'm looking for. What am I missing?
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He is not talking about the same thing we are.......he is talking about actual battery usage via battery icon, not the settings, about phone, battery, battery use screen.
I get approx the same battery use few % an hour with phone standby @ 43% of total battery use as long as I have a good signal and not using the phone
Two different things dont get confused.....

JuiceDefender has done the trick. I'm at about 45% battery remaining 8 hours and 2 minutes after being unplugged with 35% of the damage attributed to cell standby.
The only caveat is that Gmail and Google Voice don't push instantly. Of course 15 minute intervals are enough for my email, and a simple text upon receipt by Google Voice lets me know exactly when I get a voicemail.
Thanks all for your responses.

Battery Life

I've had the phone since Sept 6th and this is 4th day I have my phone.
My battery life has been draining like crazy. I don't have a data plan, but I do go on wifi sometimes (not very often, and I don't keep it on for long). Maybe in total an hour to two a day.
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user, I don't play any games or watch any videos nor listen to music at all. I only sms and download apps.
It's been 5h 42m 35s since unplugged and my battery life is down to 57. I hardly use it, my settings are pretty much the lowest.
It says
Android System 40%
Cell standby 21%
Phone idle 13%
Display 12% (weird, since I have animations are turned off and I used lowest brightness)
Camera 6% (I took 3 photos)
Wifi 4%
Maps 2%
Dialer 2%
about 2 hours ago, I rooted my desire since I've read reviews that it makes it faster, prolongs battery life and what not. (plus I could do so much more with it later on). But my battery was still draining at like 1% every minute and half that I touch it. (I also have task killer, but I don't kill task very often)
Then my friend suggested I get SetCPU (which I did) around 2 hours ago after I rooted my phone. Then I went out and hardly touched the phone unless I received sms, or to check the time. And it went from like 69 to 56 (within that 2 hours of doing nothing)
I've searched the forum for extending battery life (and googled as well) and read other users who have the same problem, and I pretty much did what was recommended but it's still draining.
I can hardly make it through the day!!
Is there any other way that I can charge it (when to charge it) or.. do you think it might be my battery's problem? Should I buy a new one?
Thanks for all the help again (I know this kind of thread has already been done, but that was in like April)

Your battery takes time to settle if it's a brand new device. It takes a few charge/discharge cycles for that.
If after say 14 days you are still getting poor life I'd try calibrating it. Instructions are HERE.

thanks! i will try that if my battery life still drains this crazily in a week.

[Q] Is this unusual battery drain from the screen?

Hello everyone! I just switched to my first Android device and am truly enjoying the experience. I can't believe I was using an iPhone for so long. I finished draining my battery for the first time and recharged it and am draining it again. My phone indicates that the screen is consuming around 66-70% of the battery drainage while everything else is quite low such as the Android OS taking up about 12%. Is this typical and does it improve over time? Thank you for your help.

this is normal but seems like that is pretty heavy use. if your phone was barely used then that is not normal.

I am going to further diagnose this. I have my brightness set to auto. I wasn't really using the phone that much. I flashed it to the yakju build and it is running 4.0.2. Is there anything I should do to test the phone?

what is your screen on time

I'm looking at
9h 56m on bettery
Android OS 33%
Phone Idle 30%
Cell Standby 22%
Screen 9% (on time 9m)
Wifi 5%
Google Services 2%
This is after the phone being nearly untouched most of the day, no calls or texts and nothing being done but checking my email once not too long ago. It's on Auto-brightness which sucks because it appears to be on the darkest setting but without that my battery seems to go from full charge to 50% in 1-2hours with moderate usage (Browsing the web, Checking email, Browsing Market, few phone calls and texts) and it sucks that I feel like I cant play with the phone because it'll be dead when I need it and without Auto-brightness the battery dies even quicker.
Almost feel like I need to be tethered to the charger.

dev/null/ said:
I'm looking at
9h 56m on bettery
Android OS 33%
Phone Idle 30%
Cell Standby 22%
Screen 9% (on time 9m)
Wifi 5%
Google Services 2%
This is after the phone being nearly untouched most of the day, no calls or texts and nothing being done but checking my email once not too long ago. It's on Auto-brightness which sucks because it appears to be on the darkest setting but without that my battery seems to go from full charge to 50% in 1-2hours with moderate usage (Browsing the web, Checking email, Browsing Market, few phone calls and texts) and it sucks that I feel like I cant play with the phone because it'll be dead when I need it and without Auto-brightness the battery dies even quicker.
Almost feel like I need to be tethered to the charger.
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you either have really bad signal and/or 4g and/or a process keeping the phone awake, in your case the high cell standby time suggests the first two

This seems common for the lte version. The gsm version gets very good battery life especially idle drain. Turn off lte is your best option.

knowran said:
Hello everyone! I just switched to my first Android device and am truly enjoying the experience. I can't believe I was using an iPhone for so long. I finished draining my battery for the first time and recharged it and am draining it again. My phone indicates that the screen is consuming around 66-70% of the battery drainage while everything else is quite low such as the Android OS taking up about 12%. Is this typical and does it improve over time? Thank you for your help.
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Assuming you have the screen on a lot then yes. Those big beautiful screens are hard on a battery.

If you're on the LTE version using 3G only you will get around 3 hours screen on time MAX.
GSM version you will probably get 3-4 hours screen on time per charge.

Battery usage

My battery stats have improved greatly by turning off location completely.
Took it off charge at 6am and with heavy usage
YouTube internet calls etc
still have 65% 16.5 hrs later.:good:

Just starting to play with battery use on my new G5. 100% charged 10 hours ago just before bed.
On a day to day basis i am a pretty light user. Calls and texts mainly.
Left phone unpluggged so it slept and 7 1/2 hours layer its at 93%.
20 mins music and email checking 19 hours in its at 88%.
Have Greenified much in the way of apps which i think improved things. Compared to the Sony i had the G5 seems to have ok battery life.
Its certainly in the useful, full day and better range.

astmacca said:
Just starting to play with battery use on my new G5. 100% charged 10 hours ago just before bed.
On a day to day basis i am a pretty light user. Calls and texts mainly.
Left phone unpluggged so it slept and 7 1/2 hours layer its at 93%.
20 mins music and email checking 19 hours in its at 88%.
Have Greenified much in the way of apps which i think improved things. Compared to the Sony i had the G5 seems to have ok battery life.
Its certainly in the useful, full day and better range.
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Is yours rooted? I tend to get 5+ hours screen on time sometimes 7 which is amazing for a phone this cheap.

Same here, I have about 4-5 hours of screen on time with greenify, non-rooted. I'm a regular user, messenger, emailing, browsing, spotify etc. I'm also using Adguard which has its impact on the battery but a small price compared to having ads all over the place

Swizzy88 said:
Is yours rooted? I tend to get 5+ hours screen on time sometimes 7 which is amazing for a phone this cheap.
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Nope, no root as yet. And actually i may not depending on what ROMS become available in the future. Pretty happy with the way this is setting up and Android 7.0 stock. I think i may well leave it unrooted until after Android O hits and see where i go from there.

i'm rooted and the battery is very good, i got 7,5 hours SOT, usually i have 5-6 H of calls and 3H of SOT, 2 sims active, wifi and 4g always on, and the battery is 20-25% when i put on charging from evening to the morning. Very happy with this battery

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i'm rooted and the battery is very good, i got 7,5 hours SOT, usually i have 5-6 H of calls and 3H of SOT, 2 sims active, wifi and 4g always on, and the battery is 20-25% when i put on charging from evening to the morning. Very happy with this battery
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Very good battery for price of the handset

I don´t know it´s a isolated case, but since i bought the phone, the battery is pretty bad, yesterday i tried to charge with another power adapter and my battery it´s lasting longer, anyone have this same problem?

Sometimes this happens to me.
When i keep my phone overnight(Battery Saver ON) even wid a charge of 60-70%, next day mrng, the battery is completely drained and phone is OFF. This doesnt happen daily, happens only sometimes. Any guesses why dis happens?

Bought new Z play/kind of disappointed with the battery life

Hello all,
I bought a new Z play to replace my ageing phone, and I have mixed feelings about the battery life. The phone has received universal praise for its battery life, and while some of it is true in my case, I can't seem to get those high SoT numbers that everyone brags about.
It's very difficult for me to break the 6h SoT barrier, and I consider myself a light user: whatsapp, browsing, some reddit, and the occasional music (through headphones). I don't play any games, or perform heavy tasks. Also the phone is connected to WiFi 85% of the time, get decent signal, and the screen is set on auto-brightness.
Running latest version of the stock rom, and I performed factory reset + wiped cache + reset network settings countless times as per suggestions.
Attached some stats for 50% that I just took.
Is there something I'm missing?

Take it with a grain of salt, just because people brag about numbers does not mean they are real or obtainable by everyone. Battery life will vary for every user and phone. The time you have is in the acceptable range and I would not worry.

Yes, even I have never achieved the 8-9+ hrs of SOT that's I've seen in some threads. Based on my usage I get a minimum of 6.5hr SOT with the phone lasting a good 25-27 hours before I have to plug it back in.
Since the phone is new it might take a few cycles for the battery to truly show its stamina.

Those answer are definitely right. It all varies on the users. . Also please makes sure you have bluetooth and wifi scanning off. (Location> Scanning > Bluetooth & Wifi Scanning) Another factor is apps. Get rid of facebook and facebook messenger. Apps that use GCM eat battery like a range rover eats gas. I've hit 8--10 hr of SOT before. Let your phone get use to your daily activities. I believe it'll optimize itself over time.

It's normal.
I was also getting earlier 5-6 hrs SOT(When the device was new) but not I'm getting 8-9 hrs SOT.
So as your phone is new it might take few cycles for the battery to show its full stamina!
Cheers!!

Thanks for the replies and for putting my mind at ease.
Bluetooth and wifi scanning are off (forgot to mention that).
Anyway, I understand. Those insane SoT of 10+ are best case scenarios with careful use of the device. Still happy with my current capacity (anything which lasts until the next morning is great).
And yep, the phone manual (who reads those anymore), did mention the battery taking a few cycles before reaching its capacity.
Now, for a different issue. If I'd like to disable turbocharging/quickcharging my phone, would a USB C to A cable coupled with any charger (including the quickcharging ones) do the trick? Based on my understanding, the cable limits the chargining power, so any regular (quality) C to A cable should restore normal charging speeds even when using a fast charging charger. In case you're wondering why I'd like to do that, it's because the phone gets way too hot for my liking when using the Moto turbocharger and I'd like to reserve that for when necessary.

Well, guyz do have a point.
The screenshots are showing you have almost 3hrs SoT after day and a half. This is normal.
Those >10 hrs of SoT aren't achieved with careful usage. Coming from my experience, I got 10.5 hrs SoT with 10% battery left, BUT, in one day. My Moto can last up to 3 day with one charge, but in those 3 days I'll have maybe 4hrs SoT. So, in average, my Moto lasts up to 2 days with 6/7hrs SoT (I mostly use FB, Messenger, WhatsApp, Viber, YT, Instagram, stock 6.0.1). It simply depends how you use it. That big, almost 11hrs SoT, I could only achieve on weekends, coz otherwise I don't have the time to stare in my phone so much.
On that other thing, Moto does get pretty hot while charging. And you're right, the cable does limit the charging power so it will probably work.

I was one of those users getting 10h SoT early on. But I was doing that inside a 24h usage window. Your 50% stats have you stretched out to like almost 3 days off charger. Idle time vs. screen on time is ALWAYS a trade-off.
I look at battery drain in terms of drain rate at idle, and drain rate with screen on. Early on I was seeing 6% drain per hour of screen on, and 1-1.5% per hour screen off. So basically 5 hours of idle time costs you 1 hour screen on. Those were my numbers on the original MM build. My battery life has gotten worse with every software update. I have NOT done a factory reset, mostly because I don't want the hassle and I still get a day off normal use with plenty of battery to spare. But I usually see 18h off charger and 3-4h SoT in a normal day, and that leaves me at 40-50% when I plug in.
Looking at your stats, if screen on costs you 6% per hour, you have 17% worth of screen on drain. That leaves 33% idle drain over 38 hours, or sightly less than 1% per hour idle. Seems pretty darn good to me.

Your cell signal is definitely not helping your battery life. Switch to 2g when on wifi, your signal bar should be full and it'll probably help your battery life.

Enjoy the fact that this phone lets you keep BT/WiFi scanning/Facebook/etc. on without having to worry whether or not you're going to make it a full day. I use all that stuff, have multiple live widgets updating, brightness at least half way, T-Mobile Digits running, and still make it a full day. Additionally, it's great to know that if you do have to make it 2-3 days with minimal usage because you don't have a charger handy, you can. However, I'm willing to bet that 99% of users are able to charge their phone daily. To those users, I say enjoy all the features and don't worry about it.

Really depends on the screen brightness...I can hit those number with my screen brightness turned down a good bit...probably around 30 percent and auto sync off...if i have brightness anywhere above 60 percent then battery life drops a good amount...still well enough to get me through a 12 hour work day but there is a difference
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