Just trying to play Donkey Kong Country Returns on the Snapdragon 860 Xiaomi Pad and I notice fps drops on 1x and 4x. Try every setting, nothing changes. Even Gpu usage is only half.
Then I enabled fps counter and whenever it hits 30 C max it throttles to super low fps and doesn't go any bit higher. Explains the stutters I had in other Games.
30 C is nothing, feels like a scam, it runs like a low-end device.
Is there any fix? Any tutorial that works? With root or so? Just 35 C would be enough, It’s just 10 C here too. If not don’t buy Xiaomi for games, it’s not playable at all! It’s like a bad joke.
Over here the same problem and stuttering in fixed 60hz emulators
jaca22 said:
Over here the same problem and stuttering in fixed 60hz emulators
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Sucks man, surprised no ones talking about this. The device is easily strong enough for 3DS and even some Switch games, but with this maybe it can't even do some older emulators smoothly, will do some more testing.
So here is the Video:
Flickering is due to the video recording only, but you can still see that it runs fine until the temp hits 30c, then it becomes very slow. You can see the graphic turn orange.
hopefully a developer can port a kernel of the xiaomi x3 pro that they share the same soc and all these problems can be solved, since I bought it for emulation and it does not work smooth as silk
I hope so! But I found a fix for this problem at least, you have to use Citra, not Citra MMJ, there seems to be a problem with that version. In normal Citra it runs at 60 fps at over 35 C but it still has some frame drops from time to time.
Xi9 said:
Just trying to play Donkey Kong Country Returns on the Snapdragon 860 Xiaomi Pad and I notice fps drops on 1x and 4x. Try every setting, nothing changes. Even Gpu usage is only half.
Then I enabled fps counter and whenever it hits 30 C max it throttles to super low fps and doesn't go any bit higher. Explains the stutters I had in other Games.
30 C is nothing, feels like a scam, it runs like a low-end device.
Is there any fix? Any tutorial that works? With root or so? Just 35 C would be enough, It’s just 10 C here too. If not don’t buy Xiaomi for games, it’s not playable at all! It’s like a bad joke.
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I have Poco X3 Pro... it does have thermal throttling also... but I managed to get rid of throttling by flashing a HAVOC OS custom rom...
MIUI is known for throttling SOCs...
I have the same problem when playing Hearthstone. Anyway to turn off thermal throttling completely ?
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Hey,
i just bought an HDMI adapter for my GNex and wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with the FPSe Emulator, but the performance is like a wave ^^
For some seconds very smooth and then it begins to lag for some seconds and so on...
I also noticed that the warmer the phone the worse the performance, but why does it even go hot?
i mean the PSX has a 33MHz CPU
My setup: Apex 1.0.2
PopcornKernel 7.2
Does anyone have a simular problem?
cheers
I have the same "issue".
Fpsce works perfect on my Xperia Play, for example with Colin 2, always 50 fps, always perfect.
In Nexus i have over 40 fps with hard downs who makes the game inplayable, even with dual core boost marked.
I don´t understand anything, maybe is about the 720p, maybe ICS, maybe GPU....
eiabea said:
Hey,
i just bought an HDMI adapter for my GNex and wanted to play Crash Bandicoot with the FPSe Emulator, but the performance is like a wave ^^
For some seconds very smooth and then it begins to lag for some seconds and so on...
I also noticed that the warmer the phone the worse the performance, but why does it even go hot?
i mean the PSX has a 33MHz CPU
My setup: Apex 1.0.2
PopcornKernel 7.2
Does anyone have a simular problem?
cheers
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so when your phone gets warmer it has lower performance?
its probably due to throttling due to high thermal output. regardless of governor, kernel, or settings, if the chip gets too hot it will throttle down to the lowest state, usually 350mhz. causing massive lag. this is normal practice in a lot of poorly cooled, space confined chips. maybe try undervolting to keep the temps down. stay away from overclocks. they are not stable due to this reason. i rather play smooth 30fps then 50fps with constant stutters and freezes. overclocking does not solve all issues, it usually introduces new performance issues due to bottlenecking
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its probably due to throttling due to high thermal output. regardless of governor, kernel, or settings, if the chip gets too hot it will throttle down to the lowest state, usually 350mhz. causing massive lag. this is normal practice in a lot of poorly cooled, space confined chips. maybe try undervolting to keep the temps down. stay away from overclocks. they are not stable due to this reason. i rather play smooth 30fps then 50fps with constant stutters and freezes. overclocking does not solve all issues, it usually introduces new performance issues due to bottlenecking
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okay i will try, but why does the CPU even get this hot while emulating? even my calculator has more power than the good old PSX
Because it have to convert it to a higher resolution + the emulator might not be that good...
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The German site golem.de reviewed the 6p and the 5x and said both were throttling after about 15 Minutes of playing Riptide GP 2 on full graphics setting.
Can anyone confirm this for the 5x? That's a bit unexpected for me...
Link:
http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-5x-u...-sind-ihren-preis-nicht-wert-1511-117247.html
I think I do feel thermal throttling as I can't explain the occasional lag I'm experiencing on my N5X.
When the lag happens, it happens but when it's ok, everything is smooth and I can't reproduce the lag by using same app/same steps..etc
I've been wondering about this as well. I know the 808 doesn't suck as much power as the 810 but the thermals of the device don't seem that great: heat seems to build up in the area between fingerprint sensor and the camera and the corresponding area on the screen. The screen in particular gets really hot.
I've been playing Uprising and it does seem sluggish once the device gets toasty. The gameplay feels OK but I wonder if the game sucks a bunch of CPU in the menu/inventory screens because that part seems to slow way down.
At first I though it might be running out of RAM but my experiments indicatesit might be heat. Restarting the device didn't really improve things (after it got hot again in a few minutes) but putting the device in the freezer for a few minutes does seem to help quite a bit, I did not notice the lags while the device felt cool in my hand...
Not a huge deal for me (I don't game much on my phone and it doesn't get nearly as hot doing lighter tasks) but kind of disappointing if true and heavier gamers expecting no throttling from 808 may have been let down sadly.
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The German site golem.de reviewed the 6p and the 5x and said both were throttling after about 15 Minutes of playing Riptide GP 2 on full graphics setting.
Can anyone confirm this for the 5x? That's a bit unexpected for me...
Link:
http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-5x-u...-sind-ihren-preis-nicht-wert-1511-117247.html
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Where do they show that? I'm not seeing any charts or anything that would indicate a throttle test with results. Maybe they just mention it in the text which would be strange to not have an accompanying chart to show their results.
However it's not really unexpected when the same could be said for 90% of devices.
I checked CPUz after about an hour of gaming (in this case Hearthstone) and the 2 high powered cores had been disabled leaving the work to the lower powered cores. However those were reaching their full clock speed (1.4Ghz) as was the GPU (600Mhz).
thermal throttling due to battery charging seems to be a big issue for me. Especially if I'm not using the stock charger. Basic browsing using Chrome becomes laggy and unresponsive, of the keyboard will be unusable. Thankfully the battery lasts a while and the issue goes away when I'm done charging.
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Where do they show that? I'm not seeing any charts or anything that would indicate a throttle test with results. Maybe they just mention it in the text which would be strange to not have an accompanying chart to show their results.
However it's not really unexpected when the same could be said for 90% of devices.
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No charts, it's described in the text on the second page of the review. They also have some benchmark values.
You might have to use Google translate...
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No charts, it's described in the text on the second page of the review. They also have some benchmark values.
You might have to use Google translate...
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Ah that's too bad. I guess I will wait for Anandtech or another site to do their performance consistency break down and comparison.
OK, someone is willingly to sell me a Tab Pro 8.4 for a good price. Now everything works well, except for small fly in the ointment. He said while heavy gaming sometimes the tablet reboots. SO not sure if this is a software or hardware issue?
I have personally never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of other people getting this problem. The 8.4 can get pretty hot on the left side in the middle, where I assume the processor is located, though. Seems like a hardware problem specific to that tablet though, maybe a bad batch of CPU's.
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I have personally never had this problem, nor have I ever heard of other people getting this problem. The 8.4 can get pretty hot on the left side in the middle, where I assume the processor is located, though. Seems like a hardware problem specific to that tablet though, maybe a bad batch of CPU's.
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Nor have I, seller says everything works just really heavy gaming that its rebooted at times.
Shouldn't reboot, the tablet has thermal monitoring and will down-clock the cpu if it gets too hot, it could be a software issue or a problem with knox as that is known to reboot the tablet...
maybe it was a return and someone installed a custom firmware then flashed it back to stock.
Though can't really rule out the possibility of a buggy game, some apps such as reicast will cause this tablet to reboot due to a kernel bug / snapdragon bug (on stock firmware).
I have tab 8.4 and it heats fast when I play some racing or 3D games (example Asphalt 8, NFS:MW,Roblox,Minecraft,etc) or even if I watch YouTube videos on 1080p60 or 4K for about 10mins. And when it overheats, performance is worse than not overheated(on YouTube, not a big effect). That thing is only when I play that game or watch that video. Can I somehow make it not overheat without losing performance?
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I have tab 8.4 and it heats fast when I play some racing or 3D games (example Asphalt 8, NFS:MW,Roblox,Minecraft,etc) or even if I watch YouTube videos on 1080p60 or 4K for about 10mins. And when it overheats, performance is worse than not overheated(on YouTube, not a big effect). That thing is only when I play that game or watch that video. Can I somehow make it not overheat without losing performance?
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if you are rooted you can downclock the cpu or limit the number of cores active at one time.
Turning the screen brightness down can help too.
I am NOT rooted, brightness is about 20%.
Poking around with the kernel, and experiencing this myself, the cores are pretty hefty and can generate some heat under full power. The GPU is not so hefty, so can generate heat when overworked (e.g., by playing games). It underclocks itself to protect against overheating, but of it gets to a certain temperature, it will restart to remove the load on the cores and stop the generation of heat. There is nothing adversely wrong with your device. That's supposed to happen. Trust me. I have had the Tab Pro for a while.
Hi there! I have a Galaxy Tab S4, as you can imagine. I use it as my gaming device. The only game I play is Rues Of Survival. And well, Among us, but I don't even take it into consideration as a demanding game.
The tablet is not rooted but I debloated it with adb as far as I could. Android 10 on board.
Probably this crappy game became so poorly optimized that the performance degraded over time.
Now I am at a point where it's pretty unplayable even if I lower the resolution.
Let's see what I have tried so far.
I have checked the usage of CPU, GPU, temp and FPS with the game launcher plug-in. I have an average of 60 FPS with an average CPU usage of 8% and an average GPU usage of 80%. The problem occurs during crowded scenes. The FPS drop to 30, making the whole thing sutter really hard, the CPU usage stays the same and the GPU usage drops to 60%. WHY THE HECK?!
I have tried a couple of different resolutions (the game does not specifically states to how many pixels correspond each d*mn option) with close to no improvements. The graphics got really ugly, obviously.
Should I try to root and disable DVFS? Should I root and lower the resolution of the whole tablet to a normal fullHD with terminal? Should I stop complaining? Should I quit playing? Should I get a new tablet?
It seems pretty absurd that a game that I was able to play on my Galaxy S6, now got so demanding. Or that a 500 euros tablet aged so badly in two years.
Are those 2 free GB of ram out of 4 not enough to handle the game?
I can play it quite flawlessly on my OnePlus Nord. But this is NOT an option. The hardware specs of the two devices should be comparable. What mostly changes are the screen resolution (lower on the OP Nord) and the ram size (double on the OP Nord).
I doesn't try that game, but I played others (pubg (highers settings), stardew valley, this war of mine... etc), and I have not had problems at all. I'm stock. Have you try game booster?
Playing cod on lowest getting with high frame rate 60hz only though, phone gets so so warm then the GPU throttles like crazy and causes very bad lagging and frame drops, doesn't happen on WiFi, runs cool and smooth, what's up with this 4g modem?
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Playing cod on lowest getting with high frame rate 60hz only though, phone gets so so warm then the GPU throttles like crazy and causes very bad lagging and frame drops, doesn't happen on WiFi, runs cool and smooth, what's up with this 4g modem?
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This article here might interest you
Google Tensor SoC And Pixel 6 Benchmarks Show Google’s Intentions For Building Its Own SoC
Senior Analyst, Mobility & VR, Anshel Sag, dives deeper as Google claimed that nobody in the market was creating chips that satisfied Google’s needs for AI performance, so they created their own and I’ve had an opportunity to test the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro’s tensor SoC.
www.forbes.com
"As you can sort of tell from the graph, the Pixel 6 Pro throttled its GPU performance by over 50% at 58.3% while the Pixel 6 throttled at a more moderate 45%. The other Snapdragon 888 devices throttled anywhere from 24 to 36%. However, the Pixel 5 only throttled by 0.7% and the Redmagic 6S Pro with its active cooling only throttled an equally impressive 1%. To me, this means that Google’s GPU performance, while initially impressive, does have issues with longer term use and isn’t really viable for anything other than limited bursty GPU workloads. This means that gaming performance on the Pixel 6 Pro is worse than most of the flagship phones and the Pixel 6 is roughly on par."
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I really struggle to find the perfect overall android phone, I realllly don't wanna move to an iPhone but there a solid solid phone, hopefully Google can fix these issues, I really wanna like this phone.
Google will probably fix the throttling issues by lowering coreclocks all together, but in the end Tensor is probably just not good enough in terms of efficiency/temps to satisfy a hardcore/gaming user.
I'm afraid the P6 comes as close to the perfect overall android phone as it can get, even though it still lacks in some departments. There might be some alternatives in terms of pure gaming performance, but they will lack in other departments, meaning overall they will (aswell) not satisfy.
kevinireland11 said:
Playing cod on lowest getting with high frame rate 60hz only though, phone gets so so warm then the GPU throttles like crazy and causes very bad lagging and frame drops, doesn't happen on WiFi, runs cool and smooth, what's up with this 4g modem?
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Yeah its bad, also the touch sensitivity is way off. For me it feels like playing a new game even though i have played since season 1. It is hard to aim, hard to move, sometimes it wont recognize my touch. i dont know if you play battle royal, but whenever i open the map, it takes me like 5 tries to click the little X to close it.
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Yeah its bad, also the touch sensitivity is way off. For me it feels like playing a new game even though i have played since season 1. It is hard to aim, hard to move, sometimes it wont recognize my touch. i dont know if you play battle royal, but whenever i open the map, it takes me like 5 tries to click the little X to close it.
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I only play BR, I know what you mean yeah, add me, ... vitazade
It's completely unplayable using 4g, it's mad heat and it drops to like 10-20fps lol can only use it on wifi
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I only play BR, I know what you mean yeah, add me, ... vitazade
It's completely unplayable using 4g, it's mad heat and it drops to like 10-20fps lol can only use it on wifi
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hey, as of this morning for some reason the game wont start for me. Do you have the same problem?
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hey, as of this morning for some reason the game wont start for me. Do you have the same problem?
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Just checked there, seems to be ok for me, really weird, sometimes you get good performance sometimes bad, can't wait for these system updates!