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Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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Actually I do plan on using VR but it's not that big of a deal
Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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I care about everyday usage (being fast),normal media consumption (like watching videos or using Spotify) more than VR really and I really care about the camera
memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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I have s7 edge and OP 3 both.. I don't feel OP 3 has bad display! it might not be as good as S7 edge.. but definitely it's not pathetic display. It's very good display for day to day usage..
The display on the OnePlus 3 is pretty awesome, far better than on my One M9 for example. It may not be the best on the market but it surely isn't bad and it is far from sucking, lol.
At medium or high brightness with sRGB mode the display is great. Look really closely and you can see that it isn't perfectly sharp, but it is nonetheless FHD and you shouldn't be looking at your phone with a viewing distance of 5 cm anyway. Normal viewing distances are fine.
The minimum brightness is a bit problematic: if you turn it down all the way the dark colours seem to become actual black, so it becomes harder to see things.
Calling the display trash is surely an overstatement. It's viewing angles, blacks, minimum/maximum brightness, colour accuracy, resolution and pixel density are good to excellent. It's definitely not the best display you can get, but it's far from being terrible.
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Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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The people that say the display sucks are people that don't have the phone. I have a nexus 6p and OP 3 and I couldn't tell a difference between the screen resolution of both. Not even when I'm playing game. 1080p is easily rectifiable compared to 720p, 2k is not that much from 1080p unless you're looking at small text from 3 inches.
The colors on the default mode are over saturated and are a bit over the top but majority of casual users like it more. The display on sRGB is one of the best displays on the market. It's so pleasing to the eyes, it's almost 100% accurate yet the blacks are deep. My nexus 6p has almost as good display on sRGB but it has started to suffer from screen burn because of navigation bar.
I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
What do you guys think about the zte axon 7?
I think its a phone made by a chinese manufacturer that has metal in its build.
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It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
khaos64 said:
Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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IF it's better than an iphone 6 screen then I'm sold ?
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
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I have seen a review that I could actually see the pixels on oneplus 3 screen's on video,hope it's the camera he was recording with
Not at all, it's pretty good if you do some necessary tweaks. Personally, I'm using Sultan ROM with sRGB mode (Photography mode) and the following calibrations: Red 93%, Green 87%, Blue 100%, Saturation 6%, Intensity 8. It looks great, natural colors, slightly saturated so they don't look too washed, and AMOLED black. I'm quite happy, honestly.
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I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
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So you recommend op3?
I have a g3. I don't want to give up ir blaster sd card or removable batteries. Plus glass screen protector with no issues. But night time use with that AMOLED is nice. I don't like how it doesn't have multiwindow nor one handed view like my g3.
Hopefully it gets nougat quickly. I'll see how the Pixel XL is but if it's $750+ I'm not paying double. The OP 3 is a beast. I'll only consider the Google phone if it's $600. Which it won't be so hopefully I get a OnePlus 3 without screen uniformity issue this time.
I have galaxy note5.. and I can't tell the deference side by side by sharpness.. I can only notice some changing in color. But as I use sRGB on OP3 and basic on GN5 I cant tell any difference!!
Oh maybe the dpi.. but i change it on my op3 to be like gn5...
Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".
Google Pixel 6 review
The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12
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Other phones per Displaymate.com testing:
Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2
Pixel 4 XL = 448 cd/m2
Pixel 5 = 670 nits (per Reddit)
iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2
Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2
OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2
800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.
A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.
Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.
That would suck if true. I have an OP 9 Pro as well and even that could be brighter in sunlight
Ugh. Way too dim. I live in Miami, and I bought the Galaxy Note 20 Ultra because of its bright display and even that I can BARELY read outdoors during the summer months here. We need 2000+ nits on phone around here.
I'm very concerned about this. I currently have a Note 20 Ultra at 1500 nits. I very rarely need to push the brightness, but when I do, it's there. At 800 max, this is one of the first test I'm going to run.
Google hasn’t listed the exact screen brightness and instead only states it has a high brightness mode, but to my eye, it’s as bright as the iPhone 13 Pro that hits 1,000 nits of sustained brightness.
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Tomsguide.com says both Pixel 6 displays are "rated for 800 nits peak brightness in High Brightness mode".
Google Pixel 6 review
The Google Pixel 6 delivers the best Android experience for the money with superb cameras, a unique design and Android 12
www.tomsguide.com
Other phones:
Pixel 3 XL = 434 cd/m2
iPhone 13 Pro Max = 1042 cd/m2
Galaxy Note 9 = 1050 cd/m2
Galaxy S20 Ultra = 1342 cd/m2
OnePlus 9 Pro = 1649 cd/m2
800 nits doesn't totally suck, but it's not "great" by todays standards.
A bit of a letdown if it's true, especially considering that the 6 Pro is rumored to have a Samsung display.
Sunlight visibility isn't only about nits, but it sure helps.
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With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:
https://elementalx.org/devices/
and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode
roirraW edor ehT said:
With any luck, for the unlocked model once rooted, will be able to have a custom kernel that enables at least a high-brightness mode like I used to use with the Pixel 1:
https://elementalx.org/devices/
and the HBM app to go along with the kernel: High Brightness Mode
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Yep. Hopefully tbalden will implement his kernel (CleanSlate) for this phone. He not only has a High Brightness mode but a High Brightness Boost mode that is fabulous in bright sunshine for the Pixel 4 XL.
My delivery date has updated again, back to Oct 27-28. Guess I can stop holding my breath till I get my way
I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.
One complaint I have about my Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is it doesn't get dim enough when being used in the dark. It doesn't automatically go to the lowest brightness most of the time, and even when I manually lower it to the bottom, it's still way too bright. It's relatively rare these days that I try to use my phone in the dark, but through root on my Pixel 1, I was able to go even lower than it got without root - which was already lower than my Note does. It is nice having the screen be able to get so bright, although in the brightest sun, it was still slightly difficult to see, and it's more important to me that the software works the way it was meant to - which is not what I get with the Note.
you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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I have 20/20 vision and I can barely stand the brightness with today's phones even in bright sunlight past the half way point on the slider. But I digress.
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I'm with you, have 20/10 vision and light sensitivity so sunglasses anytime I'm outside that's not after dark and have every piece of glass in my car tinted including the windshield so I suppose we are in a slightly different category than most in this thread.
Checked Pixel 6 Pro today at Bestbuy, felt P6P is not as premium as S21 Ultra. S21 Ultra build quality felt premium to me, the back being matte feels like metal, also S21 ultra screen quality is better (brightness and richness of color etc..).
Check the attached screen comparison pic (both are at 100% brightness).
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you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences
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I don't know bro. You probably held a defected 6p. However, I can comment on the colors. That's because Samsung devices have the option to have vivid screen mode. This is something you can achieve on the 6p with a custom kernel. It comes down to preferences
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Do you know what display options the Pixel 6 Pro has? For instance, the 4XL has Natural, Boosted and Adaptive. The 2XL has Natural, boosted and saturated. I believe Adaptive is default for 4XL and Boosted for the 2XL.
@droidguy22 Did you notice these options while you were playing around with it?
I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.
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I did not check. But I also heard that many pixel owners see no difference between natural and boosted.
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Very slight difference between natural and boosted on my Pixel 4 XL, but noticeable difference with adaptive compared to those other two.
hello00 said:
you can't really tell but it is as bright as my s21u. you can't tell the difference. people who say otherwise are straight lying.
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Googles high-brightness mode can't be toggled/manually "activated" by hand (except if you root and force that), so most people just max the slider and then make a comparison. That's why there is a lot of confusion concerning the "doesn't get bright enough" - But that's bull****. It won't work. You need to go into a direct sunlight situation and then and only then the phone will max out. It's hardcoded and is only active when the phone sensors scream "supa bright!!!". It's Googles way to do it and it sorta sucks, but that's how it is.
So if people want to make a brightness comparison, they need to be in a very bright spot to make sure that the Pixel phone will actually max le brightness. If you just max the slider in a room with normal lights, the phone will not go into high brightness mode and your comparison will suck a*ss, because those Samsungs or Apple phones will shine your daylights out.
By the way, what helps Pixel smartphones (at least the P3 and P4 XL that I owned showed that) massively in terms of readability is decent anti-reflective coating/glass. A phone with decent anti-reflective capabilities and 800 nits is much better readable than a phone with 1100 nits and bad anti-reflective capabilities.
I know. Real max auto brightness (when the phone detects very high brightness) is very different from the max manual brightness just by sliding the brightness bar to the end. Next time you check, try flashing your phone flashlight right next to 6p's front camera and the brightness should jump up even higher.
Not sure how many people are aware of this, but smartphones that can do this - the screen looks absolutely jaw-dropping and stunning. The beautiful, vibrant, and HDR like effect , is very pleasing. It's night and day difference to even DCI - P3, let alone the sh1itty sRGB you're getting on Natural mode, on this device. Those yellow washed out colors...
This is what made me fall in love with my OnePlus 9 Pro. The screen looks absolutely incredible when wide color gamut mode is selected, in display settings.
Of course - with the Pixel 6 Pro, there's no such setting visible. In fact, there's not even white point settings. This has me completely bewildered and a bit annoyed, as to why they would implement something so limited.
On past iterations of Android there was an app called 'Oreo Colorizer', that could force wide color gamut everywhere. But it doesn't seem to be working on the 6 Pro.
Does anyone know of ANY way to force W.CG on the 6P? This is so crucial, I'll offer a bounty.
Custom kernels offer KCal support which are a boon for users who love a certain look on their OLED displays, albeit requiring Qualcomm drivers.
The Pixel 6 Pro display covers 73.8% of the DCI-P3 color gamut in the natural setting and if you prefer more saturation you can use Boosted Color
Letting our lab tests weigh in on the matter, in our colorimeter results, the Pixel 6 Pro covers 74% of the DCI-P3 color gamut in its Natural color setting. The iPhone 13 Pro comes out ahead at 82.5%. While that tips in favor of the iPhone, if you like a more colorful look, the Pixel 6 Pro can turn things up with its Boosted color setting that likely pushes it to roughly double the Natural setting.
Brightness is less contentious; the iPhone 13 Pro delivered 1,024 nits of brightness, making it the brightest mobile display that we’ve ever tested. The Pixel 6 Pro hits an impressive 842 nits, but it’s not enough to keep up with the iPhone 13 Pro. Both will be perfectly visible in even bright sunlight, but Apple wins.
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Pixel 6 Pro vs. iPhone 13 Pro: Which phone is best?
Pixel 6 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro are two of the best phones out there, and our guide will help you find the best for you!
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Google Pixel 6 Pro Display review: Faithful colors and smooth touch - DXOMARK
The Google Pixel 6 Pro put in a satisfactory performance overall in our Display protocol tests, showing very good color and a smooth touch.
www.dxomark.com
Pros
Faithful colors, especially indoors and outdoors in shade
Smooth when gaming, browsing, and in the gallery app
Acceptable brightness in most tested conditions
Well-managed judder and frame drops when watching videos
Cons
Brightness is too low when watching HDR10 content
Lacks brightness and shows a strong orange cast under sunlight
Visible steps during adaptation to changes in lighting environment
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With an overall score of 90, the Google Pixel 6 Pro is a device whose screen is suitable for essentially all uses. Colors are faithful, touch feels very smooth, and brightness is appropriate in most environments. Its only weakness is in video, where its default brightness is a bit low and playback takes a bit long to resume.
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I ended up getting three pixel 6's and a 6 pro, because i'm picky about screens.
- The screen lottery is still real.
- All three pixel 6's have different Mura Effect. None of them have no Mura Effect. Many people don't notice this until it's pointed out to them, but with normal vision it's obvious on dark colors with a dim screen in a dark room (i.e. everyone's phone in bed every night).
- The 6's have a grayer graypoint than the 6 pro. The 6 pro's graypoint is slightly green.
- The regular 0%-100% brightness is relatively similar between the 6's and the 6 pro.
- The high brightness mode on all pixel 6's is brighter than the pro.
I'm torn between having a bright display (pixel 6) and a uniform display (pixel 6 pro). I think I'll opt for the uniform display, and for yet another year suffer for the notoriously dim pixel displays.
But for all the **** the pixel 6 display gets for not being "modern", it's literally a better display IMO except for the uniformity problems.
- it's flat, seriously **** curved edges for a plethora of reasons
- it's smaller, far from small but not quite unweildy
- brighter
- more neutral whites and grays
PIXEL DISPLAY PROTIP:
The default display mode, Adaptive, crushes blacks on the dimmest brightness levels. Switch to Boosted, which has the exact same saturation, but doesn't crush blacks! This makes it so that details in the darker parts of media is not crushed to black when you're watching stuff in bed. Use this this image to check it out. Edit the image to blacken out the white square, and then open it in a gallery app (some browsers change how colors appear, e.g. dark mode in the samsung browser darkens images, so don't do any real image-based tests in browsers), and then switch between Adaptive and Boosted. You're welcome .
finshan said:
I ended up getting three pixel 6's and a 6 pro, because i'm picky about screens.
- The screen lottery is still real.
- All three pixel 6's have different Mura Effect. None of them have no Mura Effect. Many people don't notice this until it's pointed out to them, but with normal vision it's obvious on dark colors with a dim screen in a dark room (i.e. everyone's phone in bed every night).
- The 6's have a grayer graypoint than the 6 pro. The 6 pro's graypoint is slightly green.
- The regular 0%-100% brightness is relatively similar between the 6's and the 6 pro.
- The high brightness mode on all pixel 6's is brighter than the pro.
I'm torn between having a bright display (pixel 6) and a uniform display (pixel 6 pro). I think I'll opt for the uniform display, and for yet another year suffer for the notoriously dim pixel displays.
But for all the **** the pixel 6 display gets for not being "modern", it's literally a better display IMO except for the uniformity problems.
- it's flat, seriously **** curved edges for a plethora of reasons
- it's smaller, far from small but not quite unweildy
- brighter
- more neutral whites and grays
PIXEL DISPLAY PROTIP:
The default display mode, Adaptive, crushes blacks on the dimmest brightness levels. Switch to Boosted, which has the exact same saturation, but doesn't crush blacks! This makes it so that details in the darker parts of media is not crushed to black when you're watching stuff in bed. Use this this image to check it out. Edit the image to blacken out the white square, and then open it in a gallery app (some browsers change how colors appear, e.g. dark mode in the samsung browser darkens images, so don't do any real image-based tests in browsers), and then switch between Adaptive and Boosted. You're welcome .
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thanks for the tip
also dxomark puts the pro more colour accurate than the 6
that and the off angle green/pink hues the none pro get are pretty well known now
If you're rooted and flash a kernel you can enable HBM (high brightness mode) and then the screen is even brighter than an S21 Ultra or any other device.
Izy said:
thanks for the tip
also dxomark puts the pro more colour accurate than the 6
that and the off angle green/pink hues the none pro get are pretty well known now
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Glad to help.
I prefer more neutral whites and grays to a 2% increase in "color accuracy". Display variance is so massive among all phones in the world, and color accuracy is already so good on high end phones, that color accuracy is a meme. What everyone does notice, however, is whether white and grays seem tinted yellow/orange/green etc.
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If you're rooted and flash a kernel you can enable HBM (high brightness mode) and then the screen is even brighter than an S21 Ultra or any other device.
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I already do that and it doesn't help that much. In direct sunlight with HBM enabled, the 6 Pro is definitely significantly dimmer than the 6's, which are both dimmer than my S21 Ultra, which is dimmer still than my 13 Pro Max.
It's classic google phone dimness. I'm shocked the 6 broke that mold...I just wish it was the 6 pro instead.