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About those quadrant scores

I see people posting quadrant scores for a particular rom on their device and compare it with a quandrant score of another rom on their device. Do you guys take the average of a couple of runs or is your descision just based on one run?
I ask this because I noticed that different runs of the quadrant benchmarking tool gives different results. For example, yesterday I tested the JP1 rom and on the first run I got 939 and after 4 runs I got 1006...

Maybe because Android is doing stuff in background, so each time it is possible that there is happening more then just the bench If you are lucky and Android doesn't do anything you will get higher score
My PC doesn't have a constant 3dmark score either, there are so many factors that can change it just like on a phone...

jaapschaap said:
Maybe because Android is doing stuff in background, so each time it is possible that there is happening more then just the bench If you are lucky and Android doesn't do anything you will get higher score
My PC doesn't have a constant 3dmark score either, there are so many factors that can change it just like on a phone...
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Yes that's right, there are a lot of background services running on android and I think they interfere with the benchmarking tool. That's why I propose to take the average of, say, 5 runs.

Sorry english people:
Las helemaal over dat stukje heen joh dat je om een gem. vroeg
Ik heb 5 runs gedaan en kom op 867 uit! Met JM2 (Samjet 1.6)

jaapschaap said:
Sorry english people:
Las helemaal over dat stukje heen joh dat je om een gem. vroeg
Ik heb 5 runs gedaan en kom op 867 uit! Met JM2 (Samjet 1.6)
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Really (echt )? That's bad.
Maybe you should turn of wifi, ap data connection etc.

I don't really care about the numbers Wich numbers i DO like are the FPS of the 3D test wich is 3 to 4 times better then my Nexus One (wich gets (oc'ed to 1.13Ghz) 1750 points in quandrant )
BTW there where much apps running in background, now with retry i get better values
Scores: 904, 899, 898, 900, 891 (pretty constand btw)
Not as high as you got it but higher as my last try

jaapschaap said:
I don't really care about the numbers Wich numbers i DO like are the FPS of the 3D test wich is 3 to 4 times better then my Nexus One (wich gets (oc'ed to 1.13Ghz) 1750 points in quandrant )
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I guess the nexus one beats the samsung only on i/o filesystem procedures. Which would raise the question: how much weight should be given to that for getting a good overall impression of how fast a device is for day to day use?

jaapschaap said:
Sorry english people:
Las helemaal over dat stukje heen joh dat je om een gem. vroeg
Ik heb 5 runs gedaan en kom op 867 uit! Met JM2 (Samjet 1.6)
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Holy Crap! I actually kinda understood what you said there (I'm from Switzerland)
But yeah, my Quadrant score also fluctuates on multiple runs.

Nexus with CM 6 is way more snappy than SGS. There is a serious IO problem with Galaxy, lets hope its not a hardware limitation.

appelflap said:
I guess the nexus one beats the samsung only on i/o filesystem procedures. Which would raise the question: how much weight should be given to that for getting a good overall impression of how fast a device is for day to day use?
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And because it's Android 2.2 (Desire only gets 600 on 2.1) that's 3 times lower Imagin your score 3 times 3000 points! (i think it will be at least 2000 in quadrant on 2.2 final!)

[Q] Samsung Galaxy battery problem

I'm not sure kung sa battery ba problem ng phone ko. Pero tingin ko battery siya eh. Dahil mga 80% palang siya bigla siyang namamatay at pag inoopen ko battery empty na so kailangan nakasalpak na ang charger tas pag inopen ko mga 50% na or 60% na ang charge. Pare parehas lang po ba ng mga battery ang mga samsung? Thanks in advance po. Please respect my post.

Would you recommend to buy LG G3????

Overheating, short battery life. Is it a deal buying an LG G3 now or not?
Would like to know some feedbacks from users. Thanks

ToxyCat said:
Overheating, short battery life. Is it a deal buying an LG G3 now or not?
Would like to know some feedbacks from users. Thanks
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Is a deal for sure, the price of G3 is unreal now and i recomend it for sure, overheat is not a issue because are solved with some know-how. Battery life is not a issue too, if you know what you doing, if you root it, debloat the rom and put greenify, trickster mod and a good kernel helps.
Now with those apps and a good brain i have more than 5 hours of screen time, 2 day's of battery...with gabriel.5 kernel in lagfree governor and 300/1500Mhz my phone run smooth.
Only deal-break you have is the cracks in microphones and IR or audio jack, i have mine since May and 4 day's ago my G3 starts to crack in microphone places and im affraid to crack even more because i opened it to put thermal compound in processor to solve the overheat issue and now i know im out of guarantee!
If you dont worry about cracks (now i dont, i love the phone anyway), and if you love good photos, good audio and screen quality...sure i recomend it, otherwise because the issues i mention is a no-go.

copy2050 said:
Is a deal for sure, the price of G3 is unreal now and i recomend it for sure, overheat is not a issue because are solved with some know-how. Battery life is not a issue too, if you know what you doing, if you root it, greenify, trickster mod and a good kernel helps.
Only deal-break you have is the cracks in microphones and IR or audio jack, i have mine since May and 4 day's ago my G3 starts to crak everywhere and im affraid to crack even more because i opened it to put thermal compound in processor to solve the overheat issue and now i know im out of guarantee!
If you dont worry about cracks (now i dont, i love the phone anyway), and if you love good photos, good audio and screen quality...sure i recomend it, otherwise because the issues i mention is a no-go.
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Thanks for your answer!
The thing is that i would keep the stock version as it is, I like it in stock version. Is it still good even without any modification?
What about cracks? Usual on the mic and jack??
If you use thermal compound heating is a real issue....
Don't know man i feel confused :laugh::laugh::laugh:

ToxyCat said:
Thanks for your answer!
The thing is that i would keep the stock version as it is, I like it in stock version. Is it still good even without any modification?
What about cracks? Usual on the mic and jack??
If you use thermal compound heating is a real issue....
Don't know man i feel confused :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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In stock with all bloatware you will have a lot of power hungry, not last for one day so...isnt a good deal stay with all those things.
About cracks is a know issue by LG itself, a lot of users report it in this forum and all around the web, if you search in google for lg g3 cracks you will see what im talkin about.
I use thermal compound because my phone have the heat issue, is my phone, and not every phone have this issue i guarantee you, some users report having that and other not, my phone in some apps heats a lot up to 76º degrees, now my max is about 56/60º with thermal compound!
If you see this phone the version of 3GB RAM/32GB Storage under 360$/360€ deffenitly buy it...for sure is a exelent device.

ToxyCat said:
Thanks for your answer!
The thing is that i would keep the stock version as it is, I like it in stock version. Is it still good even without any modification?
What about cracks? Usual on the mic and jack??
If you use thermal compound heating is a real issue....
Don't know man i feel confused :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I have had the G3 since the day it came out, and I am happy with it, but there are better phones out there in the price range. If you're planning to keep it stock, I would recommend the Galaxy S5 over this. Much snappier performance and better UI in my opinion, and there is no heating issue. My phone does get pretty hot with moderate usage, and it hangs sometimes if you have too many apps open at once. I have rooted mine (debloated) and I use Xposed, and I even flashed a "thermal" mod that is supposed to help with throttling. All of this slightly helped with performance but I am still jealous of my friend's S5 (who kept it 100% stock) :silly:

ToxyCat said:
Overheating, short battery life. Is it a deal buying an LG G3 now or not?
Would like to know some feedbacks from users. Thanks
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If you want a recent and powerful terminal, G3 is not the best choice, there are SGS6, Nexus 6 and its successor G4, which actually are the greatest devices.
My feedback?
G3 is a great phone, despite I'm encountering shut off issues which affects only a restricted bunch of luckless possessors.
Excellent camera quality, excellent color fidelity (except for black which seems to be a "dark gray"), powerful CPU (too powerful, so overheating scenarios are frequent and sometimes cause a lagging experience), then the rom... surely better than a Samsung one, but remains a "plague" for a lagless experience, an AOSP custom rom is preferable in terms of performance.
A potential issue of this device, according to many amateur videos, is the weak digitizer which become untouchable in case of display crash.
Both G3 and Z3 were the better choices before the upcoming of the new 64-bit Android generation, if you want a good and expensive device I wouldn't longer suggest you to buy them.

Simone98RC said:
If you want a recent and powerful terminal, G3 is not the best choice, there are SGS6, Nexus 6 and its successor G4, which actually are the greatest devices.
My feedback?
G3 is a great phone, despite I'm encountering shut off issues which affects only a restricted bunch of luckless possessors.
Excellent camera quality, excellent color fidelity (except for black which seems to be a "dark gray"), powerful CPU (too powerful, so overheating scenarios are frequent and sometimes cause a lagging experience), then the rom... surely better than a Samsung one, but remains a "plague" for a lagless experience, an AOSP custom rom is preferable in terms of performance.
A potential issue of this device, according to many amateur videos, is the weak digitizer which become untouchable in case of display crash.
Both G3 and Z3 were the better choices before the upcoming of the new 64-bit Android generation, if you want a good and expensive device I wouldn't longer suggest you to buy them.
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Ciao! Grazie per il Feedback.
Rimane il fatto che G3 come design è favoloso! meglio di G4.. adesso costo sui 290 modello 32Gb.. sembra interessante anche se pure G4 è sceso a 380-400 euro. Ho letto davvero molte opinioni: chi dice che non scalda cosi tanto, altri il contrario, chi dice che non lagga altri si.. chi dice della batteria, altri dicono 4-5 ore di schermo acceso!!!??? Boh sembra un azzardo sto G3.
Mi chiedo solo.. non è che magari comprandolo adesso, a livello di produzione abbiano migliorato questi problemi? magari tra il 2014 e '15 hanno apportato dei fix nell'assemblaggio.

Will Marshmallow and Doze Mode fix the battery problems Lollipop brought to the M8?

My HTC One M8 was running fine before the Lollipop update back in January. KitKat had great battery life (I had at least 30% when I got to bed) and never had lag. Since then I have to charge it a bit during the afternoon if I dont want to risk running out of battery and I have occacional lag which goes away when I clean the recent apps. Tried cache cleaning, did 2 factory resets, a couple of custom roms 5.1 based and even flashed the RUU file to bring it back to pristine state, to no avail since Android OS and Android Kernel are to 2 most battery draining app I have (checked on Gsam battery monitor). SOT is much worse also, I only get 3 - 3,5h maximum.
Do you guys believe Google and HTC are able to bring the battery life of this otherwise great smartphone to how it was before LolliFLOP?
Cheers

Its not as simple as "its Lollipops fault", nor do I think any "silver bullet" like doze mode on Marshmallow will fix your issue.
I've gotten up to 2 days on a single charge (light usage) on LP, and very similar to KK battery life.
As always with battery life, there are way too many variables specific to how each individual uses their phone, reception at your specific location, etc. to attribute poor battery life to something as simple as "its Lollipop".

You're right but the Internet is full of complaints like mine: after the first day with Lollipop battery life is much worse, without changing my habits or apps that I use. It's an empirical observation, not a subjective one.

Badelhas said:
You're right but the Internet is full of complaints like mine
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You'll find numerous battery complaints for every update on every device ever.
Badelhas said:
It's an empirical observation, not a subjective one.
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Empirical yes, but its just a single data point. I'm not saying you are wrong. But there are far too many variables to say your particular battery drain problem is due to one specific issue; or can be fixed by one specific feature. Your main question/title is simply not answerable.
Case in point, I stopped reading the "battery life" discussion thread in the General M8 section long ago; due to the fact it devolved into 300+ pages of otherwise seemingly intelligent folks arguing endlessly (and pointlessly) about this tweak or that boosting battery life, and containing some very sad comments about how one person using their M8 for "only" web browsing and video streaming made them an "old person" and apparently not "cool enough" for the discussion.

Yes and no. Doze works when your device is not moving. If you are carrying it around in your pocket, like I do, Doze won't do anything. But if you forget to plug it in to charge and leave it laying somewhere, you should loose almost no battery due to Doze.
Overall, I think M will bring overall battery improvements as it, apparently, optimizes Lollipop. It wont breathe new battery life into an increasingly ageing device.

smeogle said:
Yes and no. Doze works when your device is not moving. If you are carrying it around in your pocket, like I do, Doze won't do anything. But if you forget to plug it in to charge and leave it laying somewhere, you should loose almost no battery due to Doze.
Overall, I think M will bring overall battery improvements as it, apparently, optimizes Lollipop. It wont breathe new battery life into an increasingly ageing device.
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I understand how doze works and it's nevertheless a good add up from Google. My hope is that htc can somehow squash the bugs and make it more battery friendly since I think the Lollipop update was a bit rushed by HTC. Maybe not kitkat like but better.

Badelhas said:
I understand how doze works and it's nevertheless a good add up from Google. My hope is that htc can somehow squash the bugs and make it more battery friendly since I think the Lollipop update was a bit rushed by HTC. Maybe not kitkat like but better.
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I hope so to. We can only wait and see...

hola tengo un htc one m8 con android 6 cuando activo el optimizador de baterias salgo y vuelvo a entrar figura como desactivado no logro dejarlo activado

diegoxeneize said:
hola tengo un htc one m8 con android 6 cuando activo el optimizador de baterias salgo y vuelvo a entrar figura como desactivado no logro dejarlo activado
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Post only in English or with English translation.
To answer your question, can you understand this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64574035&postcount=10794

Question Is this battery drain excessive for a new phone

I just recently bought the OnePlus 11 on Preorder and received it the 16th of Feburary, I have been using it in the Quad HD resolution with the 120hz for reference. It seems to lose a battery percentage about every 7-8 minutes while using it which seemed normal to me, but I lost about 8% battery overnight and I want to know if that is normal or if I have something going on that needs to be addressed. I've only had the phone for about a week and I don't know if it's background apps that are doing this or if I'm just freaking out to much about it, but I just want to make sure my new phone is performing as it should. Any help with this would be fantastic thank you.

Bonjour vas voir dans tes parametres ̈
ouvre parametre-applications et décoche toutes les applis que tu ne te sers pas car il peut en avoir plusieurs et cela utilise ta batterie plus rapidement.

Jpierznik02 said:
I just recently bought the OnePlus 11 on Preorder and received it the 16th of Feburary, I have been using it in the Quad HD resolution with the 120hz for reference. It seems to lose a battery percentage about every 7-8 minutes while using it which seemed normal to me, but I lost about 8% battery overnight and I want to know if that is normal or if I have something going on that needs to be addressed. I've only had the phone for about a week and I don't know if it's background apps that are doing this or if I'm just freaking out to much about it, but I just want to make sure my new phone is performing as it should. Any help with this would be fantastic thank you.
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Shedule power on off overnight