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Anyone from the UK buy the 64GB version for £549.00?

Seems they got the price wrong and changed it quickly to £479.00 on launch, you would assume they would refund the difference but their support staff are being very cagey with their responses.
Anyone else in this situation or heard anything from Google?

I have an escalation case open with them at the moment for exactly this case. While not exactly, but the cause is the same.
I wanted the 64g, keyboard and type-c cables., but when I saw the price I said, you have to be kidding, thats far more than the 32g in comparison to the US price. Approx £150 more for the extra compared to £80 now.
I ordered the 32g, keyboard and type-c cables, not willing to pay £550
The next morning, I saw it was down to 479, so I tried to cancel the 32g and order the 64g, knowing that only 12hours had been wasted in processing time.
I couldn't cancel and they want 14 days for a refund and I buy the other one and wait another 3 days processing and 2 days shipment.
I wasn't happy and am waiting for them to sort it out. So wont open the boxes until I know. Really poor first experience directly from google.
They should just refund you the differance, as you could send it back, costing them money, but they have been rather intransigent with me so far, so who knows.

scoobydu said:
I have an escalation case open with them at the moment for exactly this case. While not exactly, but the cause is the same.
I wanted the 64g, keyboard and type-c cables., but when I saw the price I said, you have to be kidding, thats far more than the 32g in comparison to the US price. Approx £150 more for the extra compared to £80 now.
I ordered the 32g, keyboard and type-c cables, not willing to pay £550
The next morning, I saw it was down to 479, so I tried to cancel the 32g and order the 64g, knowing that only 12hours had been wasted in processing time.
I couldn't cancel and they want 14 days for a refund and I buy the other one and wait another 3 days processing and 2 days shipment.
I wasn't happy and am waiting for them to sort it out. So wont open the boxes until I know. Really poor first experience directly from google.
They should just refund you the differance, as you could send it back, costing them money, but they have been rather intransigent with me so far, so who knows.
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Yeah, if Google don't refund the difference the tablet will be sent back for a refund, I might have let it go if it was a small difference but £79 is substantial enough to be an issue and worth the hassle.
I've spoken to two people and they're been very unhelpful, they are not clued up and will only go as far as to say they're investigating the issue, bit of a shambles really.

Shocky2 said:
Yeah, if Google don't refund the difference the tablet will be sent back for a refund, I might have let it go if it was a small difference but £79 is substantial enough to be an issue and worth the hassle.
I've spoken to two people and they're been very unhelpful, they are not clued up and will only go as far as to say they're investigating the issue, bit of a shambles really.
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You are more forgiving tham me I have to say.
If it was £20 they should refund, as it was clearly their error, or they are out to screw over their keenest supporters.
I've had no response from them all day today, so maybe its the US support that is great and the UK useless, as I read others have had great support from google in the past.

scoobydu said:
You are more forgiving tham me I have to say.
If it was £20 they should refund, as it was clearly their error, or they are out to screw over their keenest supporters.
I've had no response from them all day today, so maybe its the US support that is great and the UK useless, as I read others have had great support from google in the past.
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Ditto, really unimpressed. Courteous support staff but they have no idea what to do and from what I was told today they don't seem to have the necessary tools to allow them to do a partial refund.
The amount of wasted time and transport in sending out another tablet, just for me to box it up and return it again so that they can process a refund is ridiculous.

PriyanPhoenix said:
Ditto, really unimpressed. Courteous support staff but they have no idea what to do and from what I was told today they don't seem to have the necessary tools to allow them to do a partial refund.
The amount of wasted time and transport in sending out another tablet, just for me to box it up and return it again so that they can process a refund is ridiculous.
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It's ridiculous, not impressed.
They are keeping me updated but it's basically the same information over are over again, they're investigating.
I will give them a few more days into next week and then I'm going to tell them to come and collect it.

Have you both asked for the case to be escalated? Presume so.
Not that it makes a differance, as they have not replied to me since the 10th.
For a premium product and their error, its quite staggering they do not know what to do.
I hope you get it sorted.

scoobydu said:
Have you both asked for the case to be escalated? Presume so.
Not that it makes a differance, as they have not replied to me since the 10th.
For a premium product and their error, its quite staggering they do not know what to do.
I hope you get it sorted.
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Yep, hasn't really helped.
It's just the same response every time, they're investigating, they're going to email the specialist team., etc.

dp? really.

Just received an email confirming that they will refund the £70... half an hour after I RMA'd and dropped the return package off with UPS! FFS.

PriyanPhoenix said:
Just received an email confirming that they will refund the £70... half an hour after I RMA'd and dropped the return package off with UPS! FFS.
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That's really bad timing, I just got the same email.
It's completely their fault for making us wait almost a week without an answer, another day and I would have done the same.
I don't suppose there's any chance of getting that parcel back? If it's just been dropped off you might have a chance, I'd give them ring.
Thank you for your recent order from the Google Store.
During checkout it appears you were charged an additional £70 on top of what we had originally intended the Pixel C to be priced at for your region. We have gone ahead and applied a refund for this amount back to the original payment method used for this purchase. This refund may take a few days to reflect with your financial institution.
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Well sounds like they did the right thing in the end. Although bad timing and so long!
After 6 days, with them ignoring my email, I spoke with support about my screen issue (which they appear to have resolved, still testing) and the support guy fully understood and agreed 6 days was not acceptable.
He stated he would take ownership and give me a proper answer, although thats what the previous guy said too!
Glad it sort of worked out for you both.

Question Screwed By Package Delivery Company

The title says it all. Google decided to use 'Ontrac' as the company to deliver my 6 pro. And as you might expect, it they decided to mark it as delivered.
A few days ago, after i saw my package shipping email, i decided to look up reviews on Ontrac on Reddit and other various forums.
A downright litany/fukkton of people were complaining that Ontrac marked the package as delivered, when they never were. Packages seem to grow legs and disappear with this company. This gave me deep core cringy anxiety once i saw this.
Now....... I'm pissed, because i can't even reach Google, because of the INSANE wait times for calls and online chat. I'm beyond upset, what a complete sh1tshow.
Please request to have another company deliver your pixel. Stay a mile away from Ontrac.

has your package been stated as delivered? wasn't clear by your post....

Burt Squirtz said:
The title says it all. Google decided to use 'Ontrac' as the company to deliver my 6 pro.
A few days ago, after i saw my package shipping email, i decided to look up reviews on Ontrac on Reddit and other various forums.
A downright litany/fukkton of people were complaining that Ontrac marked the package as delivered, when they never were. Packages seem to grow legs and disappear with this company. Now I'm pissed, because i can't even reach Google, because of the INSANE wait times for calls and online chat. I'm beyond upset, what a complete sh1tshow.
Please request to have another company deliver your pixel. Stay a mile away from Ontrac.
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Edit: forgot to type that my package was indeed marked off as delivered. But of course it wasn't.

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has your package been stated as delivered? wasn't clear by your post....
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Of course it was marked off as delivered. Otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to type this.

In the modern world of shipping companies dropping and running, its a GREAT idea to put a motion sensitive security camera of some sort to catch the front of your property.
I use some generic high resolution IP cameras and a Zoneminder server.
If there is ever a claim that a package was delivered, you just need to find the footage applicable for the time they claim it was delivered. If none exists, then they obviously didn't deliver.
I've caught all kinds of weird stuff, like a delivery ape literally THROWING a package marked "fragile". Also a neighbor from across the street trying to sneak a couple of extra bags onto my driveway, and after I had a little chat with him, sneaking it onto OTHER people's driveways.
Note: it was an old guy, and I actually told him that it was OK, just give me a call first so I know its him and not someone from the other end of town throwing out body parts

Similar situation with Best Buy. Had I known, I would have done in store pickup. Now mine is "an event has delayed your delivery". I guess on the plus side, it hasn't officially been stolen yet.

Norma Stitz said:
Similar situation with Best Buy. Had I known, I would have done in store pickup. Now mine is "an event has delayed your delivery". I guess on the plus side, it hasn't officially been stolen yet.
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OMG. Still nothing on my stolen/vanished p6p. I had to order one off eBay, and on top of that miraculously, an hour later found a 256 stormy black at best buy that will be delivered on the 3rd! I got completely scalped on the eBay pixel.
I have learned a valuable lesson. Don't get phones shipped to your house guys.
1) Always get doorbell camera security system for your package delivery doors.
2). Try everything in your power to get packages routed to 'in package store pickup', and DO NOT use sketch package delivery companies like OnTrac!

General Google is sending REFURBISHED replacements

Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.

I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.

roirraW edor ehT said:
I would feel the same way. If using a credit card to buy a phone, some credit cards have rules which would give you options to get your money back as well, if it gets past the 15 days.
I'm really not surprised that they would do this, however. Just sucks every company would do the same thing.
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I'm not mad? It's just kinda like really? I had two phones in the past that I bought new from Motorola and Oneplus that sent me brand new replacements. And my oneplus I owned for two MONTHS. I have had my 6 pro for 11 days I believe? It's just kinda like WOW. Haha my girlfriend and I were like no... we're not mad, but just cancel it.

Out of curiosity, for the sake of science, do you mind posting the logcat output capturing a few of these camera freeze up and reboot occurrences? Thanks

I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.

Or going by factory seconds where some did not make it out due to quality assurance checks, some phones are just born "frankenphones" at the factory itself.

zetsumeikuro said:
I'm surprised they would even have any refurbs at this time. When I did multiple replacements for my 2XL in a 2-3 month period from launch I was always sent a brand new retail package. Considering the supply issue and how popular the phone is. I would imagine they probably don't have many if any refurbs in stock to send out for warranty.
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Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Could have been as simple as already returned phones (for any reason, not even necessarily anything wrong with the phone) that the package was already opened / phone already removed from the packaging, etc, and needing minimal re-certification.
I still wouldn't want such a "refurb" so soon after buying the phone new, but there are lots of reasons why they might have phones they consider refurb in stock.
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True, they do label those as "refurbs" as well. Would make sense they'd be mailing those out as they probably have little to no stock of brand new phones. I wouldn't care too much if I got someone's return as long as there's no cosmetic issues or mechanical issues on the device.

Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...

The issue is the uncertainly on the degree of cosmetic/mechanical issues, making it a strict no from me at the retail price.
Ideal solution would be a $200 rebate on a certified refurb unit or a full refund for the inconvenience, stress, mental angst

Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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I wouldn't accept anything but new within the first 30 days. In your case they definitely should be giving you a brand new one. You probably got a crappy rep, I would try again with another one. Easier said than done with how nonexistent support has been since launch. Within the first 14 days they're supposed to give new devices as a replacement. Good luck man!

Depending on how much I love the product, I usually try to rule out user error first because no product is bug-free or perfect, else simply I return it since it is clearly not worth my time trying to beta test their product and buy a more reputable and reliable product.
In the Android world, Samsung has excellent brand loyalty for this reason and something Google should learn from if they wish to retain their customer base and build brand loyalty.

I mean no disrespect at all to any fans of Samsung - I loved my Galaxy S3 a long time ago. But the way Samsung's software doesn't work well for my usage, and how they make some things not work as well as they do on Pixels made my wife and I return to Pixels and sell our Note 10+ after only a year and a half - and I usually keep a phone for 3 years or at least until it's no longer updated.
The Note 10+ hardware was top-notch. Couldn't stand the software, though, and my P6P is already working much better for my wife and I than the Note 10+ was.

Low inventory could result in sending refurbished one's...

Gytole said:
Have the Pixel 6 Pro here, noticed that when I open the camera sometimes it will just freeze up and reboot. Does this about 10 times a day. I tried reflashing the FULL OTA and Factory Images to no avail thinking it was software.
So after two hours last night of waiting to talk to customer service I tell them my issue and without hesitation she said "We will send you a new replacement phone." But it's gone be a minute and I said that's fine. I then ...and message her and go "Is it a refurbished phone a new one." She tells me they do not GIVE you a NEW phone even if it is DEFECTIVE they send you a REFURBISHED.
I told her absolutely NO thanks, in the kindest way possible, and asked if cancellation was an option, I explained I did NOT spend $1100 for a refurbished phone. Absolutely no way. She then goes on to tell me that she understands AND AGREES and that she will ask and get back to me in a few days if they can send me a NEW new one. I said if she has to jump through hoops it legit is olay to cancel it. I refuse to spend that much and have a frankenphone. You dig?
Buttt anywhooo, Just lettin y'all know...if your phone is bork, they gone sendja a refurb. You need to ASK for a new. Unless it's past the first 15 days or whatnot then you HAVE to get a refurb. But I can't live with that fact.
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I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the (replacement) phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch. Also, as mentioned, return window might be a deciding factor.

Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
Morgrain said:
I received my P6 Pro 2 days before launch, had a couple bugs, talked with a Customer Rep and got a replacement shipped on the 29.10 - the phone arrived in new and pristine condition; phone was brand new, the packaging was new, nothing refurbished there. Mind though, that I was (ofc) still in return window.
Maybe what you say is true after a while when there are phones that have been refurbished, but as far as I can understand, not at launch.
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miravision said:
Glad to see great customer service on Google's part. I also like that they're opening Pixel exclusive stores.
Could you elaborate on the two bugs that made it a deal breaker for you to hold on to your very first unit?
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I had a couple minor quirks, but the dealbreakers for me were
a) random reboots (didn't bother me the first 1 1/2 days because they only happened in idle, but then the phone randomly rebooted whilst I used it to navigate, that was unacceptable)
b) heavy lens flicker, even with clean glass (random rays of light whenever in 70% of shot pictures against/ with the sun)
Since using the replacement device, I neither had random reboots nor any more heavy lens flicker. Its possible ofc that these were software and not hardware isses, but since I set up my P6 Pro replacement the same way that I set up the "original" p6 pro one (cable backup transfer from my previous phone), it's hard to find that out.

Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement if it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him I was a little ambiguous with my phrasing and to this day I still wonder if it was a new phone.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago...

Gytole said:
Exactly, I am not crying about the fact they're refurbs if I had the phone for like 6 months. But I have had this for 10 days. The phone ain't even a MONTH old. That's like a huge kick in the kahoonays for that much wallet spill...
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Totally understand. It reminds me of my new iphone 5. I got it through the carrier by signing up. I take it home only got the camera to not work. I go back to the shop and they tell me Apple handles repairs and replacements. I'm fuming. So I immediately take the train to go to the Apple store. They tell me no appointment? no help. So I have to go home and try the next day. I ask the guy handing me the replacement of it's a new phone. He says it is. But as I'm riding the train back home I realize that in the language I asked him it was a little ambiguous with my phrasing.
Anyhow, it cost me over 20 dollars and 4 hours of my time because I was given a lemon. Thanks for letting me vent about something that was 9 years ago

Google has been doing this for years, this is nothing new.

Question RIPPED OFF BY GOOGLE???

I returned my Pixel 5 for a trade in credit on my new Pixel 6 Pro - I recieved a notice today that they had processed the trade in but that I had sent in something different than what I had claimmed when I made the order. They said I would get $36 for trading in a PIXEL 2 XL. This is so wrong and I feel like either someone switched my phone (the Pixel 5 that I actually sent in) with a different phone - or someone at GOOGLE has their head up the butt. I can't wait 5 hours to chat with them and I can't find an email address or phone number to use to request help. I have been an android user for many years (mostly Samsung but I have also had Pixel XLs - which I always used to sell on Swappa when I got a new phone) I have also traded in phones many times and have never had this problem., Any suggestions please?

Open a case with Google... not much we can do here

Geekser said:
I returned my Pixel 5 for a trade in credit on my new Pixel 6 Pro - I recieved a notice today that they had processed the trade in but that I had sent in something different than what I had claimmed when I made the order. They said I would get $36 for trading in a PIXEL 2 XL. This is so wrong and I feel like either someone switched my phone (the Pixel 5 that I actually sent in) with a different phone - or someone at GOOGLE has their head up the butt. I can't wait 5 hours to chat with them and I can't find an email address or phone number to use to request help. I have been an android user for many years (mostly Samsung but I have also had Pixel XLs - which I always used to sell on Swappa when I got a new phone) I have also traded in phones many times and have never had this problem., Any suggestions please?
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I'm pretty sure they use a 3rd party contactor for their warranty / trade-in processing and everything is scanned in to match with the packing slip you included with your trade. If that IMEI that you claimed was on your 5 subsequently gets scanned somewhere else or with a different trade-in, then it should be pretty easy to resolve.

Bummer, definitely file a claim asap... hopefully you will get a resolution!

Good luck. Google's chat and email support are literally the worst I've ever encountered from a lawful corporation.
Then I ordered my 6Pro, they blocked off their own financing option with a hold, then said the payment was denied (because of the hold they'd placed). When I called to correct it, they totally ignored everything I said and just changed the billing method to a different credit card (seemingly at random) attached to my Google Pay without my permission. After very literally SEVENTEEN emails, I just had to give up. Every single time they would fixate on some mundane thing and run with it as if that was the reason I was emailing. (sure! if you'd like a refund, simply use the return link on the store and ship the entire order back to us! Thanks for choosing Google!). At this point I would be hard to convince that anybody actually works for their customer support team, as opposed to it all just being another hat for Google Assistant. Hope your experience is better than mine, and if you happen to find a way to actually speak to a human, definitely share the secret

Geekser said:
I returned my Pixel 5 for a trade in credit on my new Pixel 6 Pro - I recieved a notice today that they had processed the trade in but that I had sent in something different than what I had claimmed when I made the order. They said I would get $36 for trading in a PIXEL 2 XL. This is so wrong and I feel like either someone switched my phone (the Pixel 5 that I actually sent in) with a different phone - or someone at GOOGLE has their head up the butt. I can't wait 5 hours to chat with them and I can't find an email address or phone number to use to request help. I have been an android user for many years (mostly Samsung but I have also had Pixel XLs - which I always used to sell on Swappa when I got a new phone) I have also traded in phones many times and have never had this problem., Any suggestions please?
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Did you make evidence of your trade-in (photos, videos) of the phone that you put in the package?
Google is not handling these trade-ins on their own, they have third-party companies that they contract to do their bidding. So if that third-party company is trying to rip you off, you need proof.
As a general suggestion. ALWAYS always make at least photos of EVERY tech product you send away by package, no matter if it's trade-in, return or whatever. Never ever trust other humans to not rip you off. You always need insurance, best case you just have a family member or buddy that you spend time with, have him as a WITNESS whilst doing the packaging.
That saved me a couple of month ago, some call me a paranoid in that regard, but last time I had to send in my LG CX, the repair company tried to rip me off "physical damage, bla, no repair, you pay us 200 bucks to dispose" when I came fully prepared with a written witness testimoney, a 70 picture protocol and a video proving that the TV was in pristine condition before sending it away. That took me like 10 minutes in time, but saved me far more than a grand. Totally worth it.
I didn't even have to wait for one hour until they gave me the notice that there was a human error and they would compensate me for the full MSRP that I originally paid.
If I hadn't been prepared, they'd have ripped me off. That's life. So be prepared, always!

That is life. You learned your lesson. Always back your *** up!

hopefully if you have some record some how of the IMEI number you can find your phone amongst the listed items on their system.
if they say it's still not there talk to the highest person at the place, tell them they have a thief working there and you'll be calling the police about it. in reality that might come to nothing but it also might be the kick up the ass needed for someone to do their job properly.

3mel said:
hopefully if you have some record some how of the IMEI number you can find your phone amongst the listed items on their system.
if they say it's still not there talk to the highest person at the place, tell them they have a thief working there and you'll be calling the police about it. in reality that might come to nothing but it also might be the kick up the ass needed for someone to do their job properly.
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That's a good idea, he should definitely go to the police if Google doesn't help him. Best case someone just accidentally switched two devices whilst processing incoming packages , worst case this is simple thievery, if the story is true.

I considered this when I sent my Pixel 5 in for trade.
Hopefully taking pics of front and back with device on (to include the shipping label) will be enough, should the same thing happen to me.

Even a working Pixel 2 XL will get you about $50 so not only did they get the model wrong, but it's condition as well.

Morgrain said:
That's a good idea, he should definitely go to the police if Google doesn't help him. Best case someone just accidentally switched two devices whilst processing incoming packages , worst case this is simple thievery, if the story is true.
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The police wouldn't do anything if the valuables are less than $1,000. Don't waste your time.

Agreed. Small claims court would probably be the next best bet if you can't make any headway directly with Google.

Thanks to all for their helpful tips and insight. Update: Finally got thru to tech support and they started a case - today, they emailed to ask If I would approve access to my account to access data about and associated with my Google Pixel product and account. Hopefully, this will help them get to the bottom of things....fingers crossed...

Just wanted to let everyone know that I finally heard back from the Customer Support staff regarding the trade in amount. Up to this point they only approved a total of $38 versus the trade in amount they had originally promised.
After concluding their investigation, they said I would be getting the amount I was expecting (just over $400 I believe) and went on to say it would be wrapped up very soon.
I was worried there for a while, it seemed to take way to long, but in the end they took care of things. I do appreciate all of the tips and input from everyone. Thanks!

Thanks for the update! Glad to hear it's working out.

Geekser said:
Just wanted to let everyone know that I finally heard back from the Customer Support staff regarding the trade in amount. Up to this point they only approved a total of $38 versus the trade in amount they had originally promised.
After concluding their investigation, they said I would be getting the amount I was expecting (just over $400 I believe) and went on to say it would be wrapped up very soon.
I was worried there for a while, it seemed to take way to long, but in the end they took care of things. I do appreciate all of the tips and input from everyone. Thanks!
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Its important to keep Hanlon's razor in mind when dealing with people. It states "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -- an error is an extension of stupidity. So just work with the other side in good faith and chances are it will all work out in the end.
Glad to hear you got it sorted.

General Google support nightmare

So I decided to share my experience with Google so far. An experience that unfortunately is still ongoing. I'll start by saying the last pixel device I purchased was the nexus 6p. Decided I was going to try the pixel 6 pro as I was intrigued with the new features and Google tensor capabilities.
Release day comes. I try to preorder the 6p and the website keeps crashing before I can complete the order. After 2 hours of trying, I suddenly get a message say they were out of stock. I was bummed. I decided to try later that night and to my surprise everything was back in stock and I was able to finally submit my order.
After waiting a week or two, my device finally ships and arrives. I have the phone for 2 weeks and suddenly the system board completely fries. Screen totally black and will not power on. I Google my options and find a page where Google recommends taking it to an "authorized repair shop". The shop is nearly 45 minutes away. I take it there only to be told "they will see what they can do". A few days later I get a call and they say the system board is fried and I should contact Google to have a replacement sent out. I already knew the system board was likely fried from the symptoms. The "repair shop had no parts to fix the phone and had no replacements in hand to swap mine out with. So what was the point in trying them? I ended up wasting 3 hours of driving time just to be in the same position I was.
So I contact Google and initiate a replacement request after waiting on hold for over 1 hour. I pick the "rush" option where they send the device and put a hold on your account until you send back the old phone. After a week, my replacement still wasn't shipped. I had to contact Google support and after the 4th try, they finally shipped out the replacement. As soon as I received the replacement, I sent back the defective unit with the prepaid label they included. It was due back December 16th to avoid charges. I tracked my package and it showed Google received it December 9th. Ok .. great. End of story right? Nope!
December 16th rolls around and I get a notice saying I didn't send back the defective device and I would be charged the full amount of the replacement device. Furious that I once again would have to reach out to Google, I replied to the email from my last support ticket to let them know they once again messed up and incorrectly charged me. I receive a reply saying my issue would be escalated. After 3 days I heard nothing else. I replied to email asking for an update and again, no response. So I decided I would have to once again get a call from Google. The support person clearly had no idea what they were doing and I was told they were going to escalate the ticket and I would hear back in 24 - 48 hours. 3 days later, still have not heard back. So once again, time to contact Google. Again, same result as I was given no answers and the ticket was escalated and still have not heard anything back.
So it has now been 2 weeks that I was incorrectly charged and $973 was stolen from my account. Google obviously does not want to fix this as it takes 5 seconds to confirm with tracking number that I sent the device back and issue a refund. At this time I feel like I need to look at other options because they simply will not resolve the issue.
Has anyone else ever had this awful experience with google trying to get an incorrect charge removed/reimbursed? I am thinking of disputing the charge through my bank to see if they have better luck, but not sure if that is the best answer or not. One thing is for sure, Google will NEVER make another dime from me as long as I am alive. 2 weeks and they still have not corrected a mistake THEY made and returned my money? Outrageous. I wouldn't expect this level of support from the worst company in the world.

I am sorry that you had to go through this. I read someone else's experience which was similar on the Google Pixel reddit. Not sure if you posted there too but there are a few others who have either gotten damaged phones or received empty boxes and they stated Google would just escalate the issue, back and forth several times.
From my experience, I've never had an issue with Google support but this was for the Nexus 6p, 2XL, 3XL, and 4XL. Each time an advanced RMA went through without a hitch.
For my first 6 Pro that I sent back for a screen issue, the support person seemed to have no idea what I was talking about as they were asking if I modified the screen or the underside of the screen? Nonetheless they issued an Advanced RMA and I got it and sent the old unit back without problems.
But as I have been noticing, I think their support has been outsourced now, they are short staffed and it seems "escalating" just means it will get passed on to the next support person. The last time I called, I could barely hear the support person because you could hear everyone else in the call center too. I don't recall having this same experience on my previous phones years ago.
Have you tried calling instead of email? Keep trying until you get an Agent that is willing to help. If anything, try to tweet them at @madebygoogle with your issue and see if that gets the ball rolling.
If you do a charge back they can block access to your google account so make sure you back everything up and take it out of google if you absolutely have to do this.

Good advice above on the charge back. I have heard of that happening.
Google employees don't so support, they farm support, shipping and repair out to Ingram. They suck.

Bummer! It's needle in a hay stack to get good googleeeee support all in one place!

selayan said:
I am sorry that you had to go through this. I read someone else's experience which was similar on the Google Pixel reddit. Not sure if you posted there too but there are a few others who have either gotten damaged phones or received empty boxes and they stated Google would just escalate the issue, back and forth several times.
From my experience, I've never had an issue with Google support but this was for the Nexus 6p, 2XL, 3XL, and 4XL. Each time an advanced RMA went through without a hitch.
For my first 6 Pro that I sent back for a screen issue, the support person seemed to have no idea what I was talking about as they were asking if I modified the screen or the underside of the screen? Nonetheless they issued an Advanced RMA and I got it and sent the old unit back without problems.
But as I have been noticing, I think their support has been outsourced now, they are short staffed and it seems "escalating" just means it will get passed on to the next support person. The last time I called, I could barely hear the support person because you could hear everyone else in the call center too. I don't recall having this same experience on my previous phones years ago.
Have you tried calling instead of email? Keep trying until you get an Agent that is willing to help. If anything, try to tweet them at @madebygoogle with your issue and see if that gets the ball rolling.
If you do a charge back they can block access to your google account so make sure you back everything up and take it out of google if you absolutely have to do this.
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Yea I first started with email, pretty much got blown off, then I requested a call twice, both times resulting in the same "we will escalate your issue and you'll hear back in 1 or 2 days", and this last time I used chat. Surprisingly, the chat person has been replying to my emails, but still unhelpful as the replied are "your issue has been escalated, please allow us another 1- 3 days to resolve your issue" every 3 days. I just don't understand how a company is allowed to operate in this way. Yes accidents happen and companies sometimes screw up, but then they are quick to own and resolve it. Definitely hasn't been the case here. Especially with doing this right before the holidays when money is tight? I'm comfortable right now, but a lot of people can't afford to have $973 stolen from them.

I just realized I first reached out to Google December 12th after noticing the hold was still on my account 3 days after FedEx tracking confirmed it was shipped and they received it. Still have not been refunded. That means today is day 23 that Google incorrectly stole my money and has not refunded me. 23 days. UNBELIEVABLE. Never EVER buying a Google product from Google again. Sadly a quick Google search reveals my case is not an abnormally. Hopefully their support catches up to them and the company crashes and burns. One can hope. No legit company should be permitted to operate in this way.

I hope that you have proof of your sent-in (pictures of the package, receipt from sending in). I'd probably wait a couple more days (~ 1 month total) and in case they haven't refunded you by then, write them again (e-mail or whatever, always in written form! telephone is worth nothing in front a court, since you can't proof sh*t) and give them a deadline (must be reasonable) to process your case, or else you will go to a lawyer.
As advice for the future (in case you haven't done that already), if you package anything of value - my own minimum is ~150 € - have a witness there when you package the product (friend, mother, whatever - dog will probably not count - if you want to go overkill, prepare a written statement for them (product is in functioning condition, is packed properly, witness to that blabliblup), so they can just sign it to help your case - in case anything goes wrong), best also make a small video / photos of the packaging process. That way you have hard proof and if you go to a lawyer with that, they'll rub their hands and get you your money in no time. It's important that you can prove that you have properly shipped the product.
I know that this sounds "overkill", but you have just experienced why this is important. DHL once destroyed a 4 figures expensive OLED of mine whilst transporting it and only because I prepared proof in advance of the pristine condition of the product, I was able to get 100% of my money back. It will only take a couple minutes - and s*it happens. In 99 of 100 cases, it will not be important and you might "waste" a couple minutes each time. But once you get a problem... you will wish that you made the effort...
By the way, since you talked about bank/reimbursed (disputing the charge through your bank) in your OP post, DO NOT do that. Google will use that as an excuse to shut down all your Google accounts, since "the relationship of trust with the customer is disturbed" - or something along the lines of that. If they don't act within a reasonable time frame given, get a lawyer. Do not act on your own and DO NOT remove money from Googles account. That will instantly create red flags in your profile and will permanently damage your standing with that company. And since Google is just a small indie company, you might not care about that. But... You know where I'm going with this.

scott.hart.bti said:
I just realized I first reached out to Google December 12th after noticing the hold was still on my account 3 days after FedEx tracking confirmed it was shipped and they received it. Still have not been refunded. That means today is day 23 that Google incorrectly stole my money and has not refunded me. 23 days. UNBELIEVABLE. Never EVER buying a Google product from Google again. Sadly a quick Google search reveals my case is not an abnormally. Hopefully their support catches up to them and the company crashes and burns. One can hope. No legit company should be permitted to operate in this way.
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So you didn't get charged but have a hold on the amount, right? Don't banks remove a hold after a certain number of days? I'd start with them. As for destroying your Google account, they used to do that when Google was running the return/support process. Now they have outsourced it and I wonder if they will still do that. I haven't seen current reports on that but you can check Reddit for all the down and dirty stuff like that.

Morgrain said:
I hope that you have proof of your sent-in (pictures of the package, receipt from sending in). I'd probably wait a couple more days (~ 1 month total) and in case they haven't refunded you by then, write them again (e-mail or whatever, always in written form! telephone is worth nothing in front a court, since you can't proof sh*t) and give them a deadline (must be reasonable) to process your case, or else you will go to a lawyer.
As advice for the future (in case you haven't done that already), if you package anything of value - my own minimum is ~150 € - have a witness there when you package the product (friend, mother, whatever - dog will probably not count - if you want to go overkill, prepare a written statement for them (product is in functioning condition, is packed properly, witness to that blabliblup), so they can just sign it to help your case - in case anything goes wrong), best also make a small video / photos of the packaging process. That way you have hard proof and if you go to a lawyer with that, they'll rub their hands and get you your money in no time. It's important that you can prove that you have properly shipped the product.
I know that this sounds "overkill", but you have just experienced why this is important. DHL once destroyed a 4 figures expensive OLED of mine whilst transporting it and only because I prepared proof in advance of the pristine condition of the product, I was able to get 100% of my money back. It will only take a couple minutes - and s*it happens. In 99 of 100 cases, it will not be important and you might "waste" a couple minutes each time. But once you get a problem... you will wish that you made the effort...
By the way, since you talked about bank/reimbursed (disputing the charge through your bank) in your OP post, DO NOT do that. Google will use that as an excuse to shut down all your Google accounts, since "the relationship of trust with the customer is disturbed" - or something along the lines of that. If they don't act within a reasonable time frame given, get a lawyer. Do not act on your own and DO NOT remove money from Googles account. That will instantly create red flags in your profile and will permanently damage your standing with that company. And since Google is just a small indie company, you might not care about that. But... You know where I'm going with this.
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Thanks. Appreciate the feedback and advice. You know, you are 100 percent correct with sending things back. No one really thinks about it because a majority of the time it goes smoothly, but when there are issues it's extremely difficult to prove and any extra steps/precautions would be critical. I will start doing this going forward as I am a very precautions person and have little trust in the way everything operates nowadays.
I finally got an email from Google a few hours ago saying they were "processing a refund". Disturbing part is it says it can take up to 14 days. So hopefully at this point it's resolved and the money shows up. I notified my bank to seize looking into this matter for now and hold the claim to avoid any issues you mentioned. What an absolute nightmare. I truly can't understand how they are a successful lucrative company and have support comparable to a kindergarten student at a lemonade stand.

bobby janow said:
So you didn't get charged but have a hold on the amount, right? Don't banks remove a hold after a certain number of days? I'd start with them. As for destroying your Google account, they used to do that when Google was running the return/support process. Now they have outsourced it and I wonder if they will still do that. I haven't seen current reports on that but you can check Reddit for all the down and dirty stuff like that.
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At first it was a hold until December 16th when they sent an email saying they never received it and it turned into a legit charge. Unreal, but finally seem to be making progress as per my last post.
I did a quick search and man... It's disturbing to see how common this is. I mean how can a company operate this way and yet still generate hundreds of millions in revenue? Blows my mind.

scott.hart.bti said:
I did a quick search and man... It's disturbing to see how common this is. I mean how can a company operate this way and yet still generate hundreds of millions in revenue? Blows my mind.
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Do a search for Samsung, Apple, (insert name of company here) and you will find the same results. It's just the way it is and always has been. Just much more pronounced now in this day of covid and people not working and everyone understaffed.

Yes, my experience with Google warranty was very similar.
The problem is these ass clowns are using FedEx Ground and they take their sweet ass time. Not only with this shipment but literally every shipment for me that's ever touched their system for the last year has been delayed. If not stated no delivery information available, what???
I used to work for FedEx Express. There was pride in there their work ethic and getting people their stuff typically within minutes of the commitment time at the latest. Now they just don't give AF.
Yes, they charged my card too. I called fraud and had them reach out to FedEx Ground and fix their lazy delivery style.
In addition, Google was very slow to admit that my old phone was overheating from no user error whatsoever. That process took two months. They definitely didn't send me a replacement that was an unlocked bootloader.
What a nightmare.

I bought an open box 6 Pro from Best Buy and it randomly decides to have a stuck green pixel and a giant line across the screen. Trying to exchange it has been hell because it has to be another open box and they are hard to catch but I managed to today. The phone rep guy just added it to my original order and it's gonna be here tuesday. No mention of returning the one I have.