Best Stable ROM - Google Pixel 3 XL Questions & Answers

Hi!
can anybody confirm which android version is more stable & featurefull among 10-12?
I'm currently using Android 12, but i want more stability & fluidity in my device.
Thanks in advance!

I personally thought that Android 10 was better than Android 11 which was noticeably slower and while Android 12 is buggy, the battery life is way better than it was previously so I just stick with 12. Getting over 4 hours SoT from 65% of the battery (I charge at 20%, take off charger at 85%) is great, and on days I actually charge to 100% because I know I'll be out of the house, 7 1/2 to 8 hours is possible.

I'm running stock FW, Android 12, always updated. And, I just notice I didn't received updates since 5 october. Well, end of life of my Pixel 3.
I can confirm battery drain, but for security reason, I stayed with stock updated.
Now, it's another story.
Thanks for the infos @EtherealRemnant.
Any advise for any Rom or you stay on Stock?
Sorry OP, if I disturb your post with my demand or if it's out of subject.
Thanks

tillets said:
I'm running stock FW, Android 12, always updated. And, I just notice I didn't received updates since 5 october. Well, end of life of my Pixel 3.
I can confirm battery drain, but for security reason, I stayed with stock updated.
Now, it's another story.
Thanks for the infos @EtherealRemnant.
Any advise for any Rom or you stay on Stock?
Sorry OP, if I disturb your post with my demand or if it's out of subject.
Thanks
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I switched to Pixeldust and like it more than stock.

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Standby drain

When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus)'s battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
One of the biggest issues in the current Oreo ROMs is the mobile network standby drain.
People using the Pie alphas should report if it still exists or has been fixed, although I don't see any new baseband and hence the chances of latter are less.
devashish90 said:
One of the biggest issues in the current Oreo ROMs is the mobile network standby drain.
People using the Pie alphas should report if it still exists or has been fixed, although I don't see any new baseband and hence the chances of latter are less.
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The problem still exists in android pie roms too some one should address this serioous issue :crying:
Abhijith2048 said:
The problem still exists in android pie roms too some one should address this serioous issue :crying:
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I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
devashish90 said:
I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
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You could also install the viper os 3.0 final build but the problem with that is that it doesnt have the cameraapi 2 enabled on that because of that the google cam wouldnt work. The photos taken by the google cam and stock cam differ in the quality by a huge margin to be ignored
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I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
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Which ZUI you would flash? Stock Indian 2.5 or the Chinese ones?
saurav_k said:
Which ZUI you would flash? Stock Indian 2.5 or the Chinese ones?
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I ended up dowloading ZUI 2.0.093 Indian for qfil and ZUI 2.5.104 stock recovery zip (qpst one for this wasn't downloading for me).
I flashed ZUI 2.0 via qfil successfully, and received a small oTA to 2.0.133, and then decided to flash 2.5 via recovery, but failed to get it work. Anyways, decided to go ahead and unlock the BL and then I ended up flashing only the baseband from Indian 2.5.099 (data quota restrictions ).
After that I flashed the last build of AEX 4.6, used it for a day and the standby drain was not like a drain overthere. Unless I did not use hotspot, it wouldn't show up in top 5.
Few hours later, got a notification for a rebased release of Jaguar oreo, and couldn't resist from trying it out. Initial impressions were great, but slowly the standby drain started creeping in, and within a few hours it rose to the top. Luckily I made a nandroid backup of the AEX 4.6 Installation which I reverted to last night.
I do miss the oreo features though
Developers should look around the way Oneplus 6T addressed the issue. Coz I heard, they almost fixed the issue in the new phone.
ShaktiSW said:
Developers should look around the way Oneplus 6T addressed the issue. Coz I heard, they almost fixed the issue in the new phone.
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So does this problem exist for all android phones that are above android Oreo??? or is it just for our phones. The thing iam trying to understand here is that is it google that messed up android or is the developer that created the roms for our phone that messed up. Its actually funny how the phone uses more battery when the phone is not in use.:cyclops::cyclops:
1-2 % within 10 pm to 5 am ( Jio4G + Vodafone 3g ) without data connection
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I think I'm going to flash a really old stock ZUI for the firmware and then flash the legendary AEX 4.6 Nougat. That seems to be the only way forward to get some decent battery life and stability.
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Hmm that means that you wouldn't be able to use google cam that means a huge degrade in the picture quality
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Hmm that means that you wouldn't be able to use google cam that means a huge degrade in the picture quality
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After creating a nandroid backup of fully loaded aex 4.6, I'm back to living on the bleeding edge. Going back to aex 4.6 wasn't as good in terms for battery performance Z I expected it to be.
Currently on october pixel exp pie and the latest gcam pixel3 mod and even the pixel 2 mods frequently crash the phone (kernel panic maybe) during HDR processing. Didn't have time for debugging so received a lot of frowning from family for missed shots and extended wait times but who cares as whatever gcam was able to shoot was unbelievable.
Would be moving to the latest AEX pie with 4.4 kernel soon as I have read that the new kernel will improve the battery life.
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After creating a nandroid backup of fully loaded aex 4.6, I'm back to living on the bleeding edge. Going back to aex 4.6 wasn't as good in terms for battery performance Z I expected it to be.
Currently on october pixel exp pie and the latest gcam pixel3 mod and even the pixel 2 mods frequently crash the phone (kernel panic maybe) during HDR processing. Didn't have time for debugging so received a lot of frowning from family for missed shots and extended wait times but who cares as whatever gcam was able to shoot was unbelievable.
Would be moving to the latest AEX pie with 4.4 kernel soon as I have read that the new kernel will improve the battery life.
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What? Gcam is exceptionally stable for me, both pixel 2 and 3 moda
devashish90 said:
Currently on october pixel exp pie and the latest gcam pixel3 mod and even the pixel 2 mods frequently crash the phone (kernel panic maybe) during HDR processing.
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Hmm, is this issue specific to Oct build of PE Pie ROM ? Or you witnessed with earlier versions of PE too?
Battery life started decreasing after beginning of Android Oreo 8.1.
I'm using Viper Nougat Final + OSS Cam patch. I'm pretty happy with it.
Is updating firmware to zui 4.0 can solve draining problem
Sumit Saroha said:
1-2 % within 10 pm to 5 am ( Jio4G + Vodafone 3g ) without data connection
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Which rom and baseband do you use ??
ZUI 5 GSI has very low standby drain and SOT is also really good between oreo roms. You can try it once.
mine was so bad
I lose 25-30 percent through the night everynight and, I just replaced my battery for 3 month.
i don't know what's going on.
Can any one recommend me some good battery rom please ?
The battery drain issues are solved
Guys iam happy to report that the battery drain issues are solved on latest build of bootleggers 4.0 rom
Here is a link to it
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-zuk-z2/development/pie-bootleggers-3-5-shishufied-zuk-z2-t3867112

Android Oreo in 2019

Hello everyone,
Just curious to know if we have Oxygen os builds available for Oreo in 2019. Would like to rollback to Oreo but don't want to lose android security patches.
Android pie is working fine. But really miss the brightness levels and camera was better in nougat and Oreo compared to pie. Battery was the top in nougat easily got 6-7 hours screen on time with enough battery left for the day and with Oreo it was the best 8-8.5 hours.
Not complaining about pie. Can get through the whole day with moderate use and 20-30% left in evening. Just sharing my experience so far with 5t.
I would like to try nougat or Oreo if there are any versions available with latest android security patches.
Apologies if this has been already asked somewhere and answered. I went across XDA and OnePlus forums, Plz let me know if anyone is running Oxygen os with nougat/Oreo at the moment. Thanks!!
No OOS oreo/nougat builds with latest security patches
surya nivas said:
No OOS oreo/nougat builds with latest security patches
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Hmm..guess I need to stick with pie only..
Evolve92 said:
Hello everyone,
Just curious to know if we have Oxygen os builds available for Oreo in 2019. Would like to rollback to Oreo but don't want to lose android security patches.
Android pie is working fine. But really miss the brightness levels and camera was better in nougat and Oreo compared to pie. Battery was the top in nougat easily got 6-7 hours screen on time with enough battery left for the day and with Oreo it was the best 8-8.5 hours.
Not complaining about pie. Can get through the whole day with moderate use and 20-30% left in evening. Just sharing my experience so far with 5t.
I would like to try nougat or Oreo if there are any versions available with latest android security patches.
Apologies if this has been already asked somewhere and answered. I went across XDA and OnePlus forums, Plz let me know if anyone is running Oxygen os with nougat/Oreo at the moment. Thanks!!
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I dont see any decrease in battery life in pie. More likely your battery degenerated over time or some apps or background services drain it.
Go hunting for it with logcat or betterbatterystats
Try custom ROMs
surya nivas said:
Try custom ROMs
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Yes...custom roms are totally worth it, Since I have multiple work apps installed at the moment. a bit concerned on how they will work under root. Just sharing my usage logs with a comparison between Oreo and pie
The first set of screenshots are from moderate day usage in Oreo back in 2018 which has mixed usage of social apps and gaming
The second usage is from current stable 9.0.6
Not sure if everyone is getting similar battery life between Oreo and pie in moderate usage throughout the day.
I feel the 10-15% difference with battery left at end of day cause a big change still I get to manage throughout the day in pie.
Compared to Oreo from these random usage screenshots, pie is getting worse day by day. Maybe it's the battery that gets degraded over time or its the overall phone hardware that runs round the clock for us
I have this feel almost with every device, Samsung galaxy 5, Xperia neo v and also back in opo. Android kitkat had best battery and lollipop had a moderate and with marshmallow it got worse.
Just sharing my opinion and also curious to know if y'all out there feel the same.
Edit : Would like to add all these usage were taken in locked bl running unrooted
No need for root , just flash a custom rom and then enjoy ,for me comparing to Oreo pie has good SOT , AND im a heavy Gamer so cant help with battery stats :silly::laugh:
Still many custom ROMs works good in SOT with a custom kernel too.
surya nivas said:
No need for root , just flash a custom rom and then enjoy ,for me comparing to Oreo pie has good SOT , AND im a heavy Gamer so cant help with battery stats :silly::laugh:
Still many custom ROMs works good in SOT with a custom kernel too.
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Hmm yeah.. planning to give it a try. Been sticking with stock unroot most of times since I got 5t. Had it unlocked and under root for few weeks back in January due to shutter sound bug. Since it got fixed moved to stable.
I could see many custom roms are available to try.
Any tips on choosing custom rom, I mainly look for Oxygen os camera and good battery. How's OOS open beta holding up compared to stable pie in terms of battery.

best custom rom for battey life

Hello all
Note 5 is on offer in the UK for £99 so i've bought one to use as a high capcity mp3 player to take on holiday. I will be using it as a offline media player in aeroplane mode and perhaps the odd phone call.
Is there a better rom for battery life?
Still fairly new to this but have rooted and installed a custom rom on my old g6 plus, which I now use a hi fi server/chromecast audio remote... it seems that Xiaomi's are a little more complex though.
Any advice appreciated!
I recommend AEX Official 6.5 Oreo Firmware with Basic Kernel. Best battery backup for me.
Here are the links:
AEX Official: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/rom-aospextended-rom-v6-4-t3918557
Basic Kernel: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/development/kernel-basickernel-t3858954
AOSIP.. Very good Rom
AOSIP Derpfest. Over 9hrs SOT for me.
1Ishara said:
AOSIP.. Very good Rom
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Thanks would this be the rom you speak of?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/help/rom-aosp-pie-t3829052
Battery life AOSIP = around 7-8 hours: https://youtu.be/V5HqeiKcw9c?t=358
AOSIP Derpfest = around 8 1/2 hours: https://youtu.be/oNDMATD-HFc?t=515
taco9 said:
Battery life AOSIP = around 7-8 hours:
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AOSIP Derpfest = around 8 1/2 hours:
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I couldn't find information, apart from the battery life what are the differences between Aosip and Aosip derpfest?
If it's just for playing music offline and a phonecall now and then, why don't you try miui first? I get 10 hrs sot on latest pie.
I wouldn't suggest pre installed music player though.
If your device is new, any rom will give you a good battery life, I use Whyred as a secondary phone and I can easily get 10-11 of sot with any rom/kernel (the device has 3 months, the battery is practically new), so don't worry about that, use the one you like the most, it will work well.
With one thing and another it's taken me two days to get the bootloader unlock started and now I have to wait 7 days! Will the thing actually unlock then?
cmr_xda said:
Hello all
Note 5 is on offer in the UK for £99 so i've bought one to use as a high capcity mp3 player to take on holiday. I will be using it as a offline media player in aeroplane mode and perhaps the odd phone call.
Is there a better rom for battery life?
Still fairly new to this but have rooted and installed a custom rom on my old g6 plus, which I now use a hi fi server/chromecast audio remote... it seems that Xiaomi's are a little more complex though.
Any advice appreciated!
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NOT pixel experience. It's a great rom but currently there's a bug that limits the battery to 85% of it's total capacity
Xavier M. D'Mello said:
NOT pixel experience. It's a great rom but currently there's a bug that limits the batter to 85% of it's total capacity
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What?
onliner said:
What?
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Sorry, i misspellt. Battery, not banner .
Since pixel experience is by a far margin the most popular rom for whyred, i thought that it would be good to put this here.
Xavier M. D'Mello said:
Sorry, i misspellt. Battery, not banner .
Since pixel experience is by a far margin the most popular rom for whyred, i thought that it would be good to put this here.
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Again, what?
Do you know that battery info is stored inside the batterydata of the kernel dts and it's R/O?
Batterydata of PE kernel (The important here is "qcom,nom-batt-capacity-mah").
Rom info, CPU-Z and Ampere, If your apps have bugs, blame the apps not the rom, I'm sorry, but your previous statement doesn't make any sense.
Also, you can make a cat/grep of the battery info with any terminal app.
Funny, my phone is locked, I not use any custom Stuff. I'm on the latest MIUI 10.3.1 with Stock Kernel and Android 9. I have 18% left and have already over 9 hours of SOT and my phone is 7 months old, with daily usage.
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Android 11 has arrived

The 2020 Moto G Power has been updated to the official OTA of Android 11.
I am in awe with my 2020 G power running on Android 11. Just felt like this was what my G power ultimately ment for. Compare with Android 10, which is just a prototype until the arrival of 11. Now that it's here, this device can really shine. Don't mind me, I'm just geeking out by the current hardware and software combo. Like peanutbutter and chocolate, it feels just right...
Day 1 running on Android 11:
A few things that are different than before, the custom system setting UI is now officially a part of the setting, but with more choices and better UI. The navigation gestures can now run on 3rd party launchers, it takes some getting use to, but once you get hang of the gestures, it's bye bye, the 3 buttons. Full screen display option for all the apps, no more blank space at the tail ends. Not sure where the battery draining rumor comes from, IMO, if anything, my device seems to be running smoother and more efficient than with Android 10. There are a few more things I'm still discovering, so I'll make my conclusion in a few days.
Did this take forever to install for anybody else? I'm talking 3-4 hours so far and it's only at 48%.
I'm tempted to upgrade, but I think I'm gonna stay on 10 for a while. I've heard people say the battery drains faster on 11 and something about the notification bar is bugged, or something.
Got it. No issues
Anyone know where to download the zip, not through the system updater.
jova33 said:
Anyone know where to download the zip, not through the system updater.
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I can't find one either for sofia 11.
updated to 11 weeks earlier, no battery issues, very stable system. G8 power (XT2041-3)
Very stable update no issues so far.
creedzeppelin said:
I'm tempted to upgrade, but I think I'm gonna stay on 10 for a while. I've heard people say the battery drains faster on 11 and something about the notification bar is bugged, or something.
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Yes, I have observed faster battery drain since I upgraded to 11. I recommend staying on 10 for now.

Battery comparison as of 02.Jan 2021

So first of all, happy new year everyone!!
Compared to stock rom, does the battery life fares better with the custom roms released so far? Did you get more SOT hours with a custom rom compared to stock rom?
Fytdyh said:
So first of all, happy new year everyone!!
Compared to stock rom, does the battery life fares better with the custom roms released so far? Did you get more SOT hours with a custom rom compared to stock rom?
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Up to rom and kernel.
Some can get 9-11 SOT with stock rom and custom kernel.
Custom rom usually add more SOT. I can reach 14-16 SOT hours easily with no gaming. And my normal daily usage is around 10 hours.
I used device from July 2020.
Fytdyh said:
So first of all, happy new year everyone!!
Compared to stock rom, does the battery life fares better with the custom roms released so far? Did you get more SOT hours with a custom rom compared to stock rom?
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I've been complaining about battery drain with WiFi on for a long time. If you search the forum you'll see my nagging.
The problem started either with MIUI 12.5.x or Android 11. MIUI 12.0.x with Android 10 Custom ROMs don't have the WiFi battery drain.
I haven't tried Android 12 Custom ROMs yet, so I don't know how the battery is with it. Currently I'm using the latest version of https://crdroid.net/begonia/6.
I need at least a few more days to be sure how it goes.
Compass.
Compass Linux said:
I've been complaining about battery drain with WiFi on for a long time. If you search the forum you'll see my nagging.
The problem started either with MIUI 12.5.x or Android 11. MIUI 12.0.x with Android 10 Custom ROMs don't have the WiFi battery drain.
I haven't tried Android 12 Custom ROMs yet, so I don't know how the battery is with it. Currently I'm using the latest version of https://crdroid.net/begonia/6.
I need at least a few more days to be sure how it goes.
Compass.
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I had the same complaint. Thus I simply rollbacked my miui
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I had the same complaint. Thus I simply rollbacked my miui
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MIUI 12.0.x doesn't have battery drain with WiFi On, but I can't stand its interface.
Using an old version of a Custom ROM (MIUI 12.0.x based on Android 10) is an alternative, but be prepared for SafetyNet to be broken.
Compass.
Compass Linux said:
MIUI 12.0.x doesn't have battery drain with WiFi On, but I can't stand its interface.
Using an old version of a Custom ROM (MIUI 12.0.x based on Android 10) is an alternative, but be prepared for SafetyNet to be broken.
Compass.
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Well, I haven't used any phone with their stock launcher, so maybe that's why I don't mind it. And stock miui 12, with a nova launcher, and some pixel themes from the store does makes the phone ui overall better
https://crdroid.net/begonia/6
After using this for a while the WiFi battery drain doesn't happen on this ROM.
Compass.

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