Any ideas if Samsung finally will update Android on their phones including the new Note 10/10+ fast this year? P30 Pro will have acces to Android Q Beta this September...any news for the Note?
Was a reason i moved away from Samsung phones, i really like the Note 10 + and i really want to purchase it but, can't stand waiting month for the new Android version...
So what you think?
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
winol said:
Just get a device you REALLY like, do not waste time thinking about the OS that is the newest
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A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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If timely OS updates is high on your priority list, you bought the wrong phone.
I have owned the Note5, Note7, Note8, and Note9. I recall the Note 8 update to Oreo occurred the April after it was released, and the Note9 Pie update occurred in February after it was released (carrier versions, anyway). So you're looking at Q1 2020 for the update.
However, half the time the Android updates contain things that Samsung has already had in their software for a year or two, so... it's not that big a deal. That said, I still am always super excited when it happens (so I get it).
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
Hazzay88 said:
I don't see Samsung getting the Android Q update anytime soon. Huawei is lucky in that sense as they will be releasing the Mate 30 Pro with Android Q running out of box. So it is imminent the P30 Pro will follow.
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Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
torickray said:
Emui 10 is basically one ui copy cat. So we are not missing anything
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You are missing Android 10
really if you care about the android updates as soon as possible just go to a Pixel device. on the other hand just buy a phone you like and get the updates when they come, an android update doesn't really change a lot, a lot of what is added to the base android are features that are common among third parties, so for a device from a manufacturer like Samsung all the android update means is you get a bigger number and some of the phones features move from the Samsung UI to base Android.
Hazzay88 said:
You are missing Android 10
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Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
Reystar22 said:
A phone is hardware and software not just hardware. The software is very important to me
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Software is important for EVERYBODY, what I tried to tell you is this: if you like/want a note10 device, it works fine as it is, it will update in due course, if the updates are your most uttmost concern, then a pixel would be the perfect choice for you, it is well known that samsung is never the first to issue updates, knowing this, better get something else
After seeing the YouTube video of One UI 2.0 over Android 10, I can't see anything that exciting. Android 9 (RIP desserts) runs great, and 10 looked like a very incremental update.
Just enjoy your phone you just got it . Q will come orob will get 10 and 11 . Let's get 9 working good before we think of getting 10
torickray said:
Not really. We already have dark mode, swipe navigation.
Nothing really excited about Android 10
What I missed the most is the call recorder ability which they removed since android 9. I don't see it coming back in Android 10.
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You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
Hazzay88 said:
You are missing more than that. You are missing the new notifications implementation and battery saving optimisation. A few other added new features. That is why I hate Samsung with their updates. Very slow about 6 months late
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there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
Belimawr said:
there is a reason to change the notifications? they work fine the way they are. as for battery saving, last time they did those my Pixel XLs battery use went terrible.
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I had the Pixel 2 XL and when the update came through my battery life improved which was already good but improvement in any department is good.
Why should you come to this forum and complain about Samsung update when you know how they work?
We all know the update will take some time to be available since the moment we buy it. We like this phone not because of the google update that we eventually will get, but because of the features that not available even with latest google update.
You should buy pixel and iphone then. Or huawei.
Exactly
I've only had one recent "need" for an android upgrade(Wireless android auto), just to find out that after we got it that google had restricted the feature to google devices. After 6 months of google claiming it was the Samsung's issue, even though no other brands worked either, they came out with a "beta" that enabled Wireless AA on other devices, no patches from samsung required.
There are so few important updates in Android these days, it's the least of my concerns.
hi everyone
I'm New here and my issue that I have Samsung Note 10+ SM- N975U ...4DTH7 and I noticed that My Phone stuck on Android 10 while other Phones around the world has been updated to Android 12
I tried many times to update my phone but every time it said that I got the last Update. So is there any way to update my phone to Android 11 or 12
thanks for your help
Flash manually with odin there is a thread in the guides section with the files you need
I would leave it on 10 until you get feedback on 12 from other users.
No huge reasons to update from 10... but there may be many valid reasons not too!
I have one that's running 9, one that's on 10; both are fast and very stable. Security is not an issue...
Scoped storage and forced encryption are fully active on 11 and up. These will use more cpu cycles and resources. Scoped storage will also screw up older apps that run fine on 10. All apps need to be compatible with 12 or it can cause system wide issues.
11 runs all apps just fine and 12 is pretty stable as well beeen riung the beta with no issues up grade to 11 and wait for stable 12 to come through ota
jolly_roger_hook said:
11 runs all apps just fine and 12 is pretty stable as well beeen riung the beta with no issues up grade to 11 and wait for stable 12 to come through ota
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So what doesn't work besides most older apps?
SOT is how much worse?
Hey I could be all wrong but I think 11 and 12 are wallowing ducks.
Android 10 wasn't a net wash but I still lost valuable functionality and troubleshooting tools to it. For what?
I'm running 2 N10+'s, one on 9, one on 10. I can easily see what was lost or gained. Goggle gestures is a complete bloody abortion, what a mess. Thankfully Samsung has numerous work around modifications and virtual nav buttons can be used.
Lol, which Galaxy themes work with 12?
Android 12 is puking on the flagship Pixel's... that tell you something?
If you upgrade using OTA you are boned if it upgrades the bootloader version (which it usually does)... no going back.
blackhawk said:
So what doesn't work besides most older apps?
SOT is how much worse?
Hey I could be all wrong but I think 11 and 12 are wallowing ducks.
Android 10 wasn't a net wash but I still lost valuable functionality and troubleshooting tools to it. For what?
I'm running 2 N10+'s, one on 9, one on 10. I can easily see what was lost or gained. Goggle gestures is a complete bloody abortion, what a mess. Thankfully Samsung has numerous work around modifications and virtual nav buttons can be used.
Lol, which Galaxy themes work with 12?
Android 12 is puking on the flagship Pixel's... that tell you something?
If you upgrade using OTA you are boned if it upgrades the bootloader version (which it usually does)... no going back.
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Each their own I guess. I personally think 12 is awesome with some tweaking.
thereefour777 said:
Each their own I guess. I personally think 12 is awesome with some tweaking.
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What features or benefits do you like with 12?
What don't you like?
My brother got this mobile from someone but im unable to find any updates and the software is from july
My thoughts; I would leave it on Pie.
This N10+ is still running on Pie, the current load will be 2 yo in June still fast and stable.
Security is not an issue unless you do stupid things... no saving dumb bunnies.
The highest I would go is Android 10 and even then you will lose some functionality with trusted 3rd apps like Karma Firewall.
Android 11 and 12 will puke on you. Their scoped storage will waste cpu cycles, reducing usability and functionality especially on an older Android.
Android 12 added a phantom process killer. I am considering of buying the Samsung Galaxy S22 which ships with it. I use Termux and I heard it always gets SIGKILLed. But, in Android 13, there is a flag to disable killing phantom processes (settings_enable_monitor_phantom_procs). Is it available for the Android 13 beta of the phone? (If yes, please provide screenshots as steps).
Btw, is Android 13 beta stable? I don't want to buy the wrong phone.
Thanks!
I had an s22(snapdragon) and tbh don’t recommend it, bad battery, laggy ui, mediocre cameras and it gets hot very easy.
kcpyn36 said:
I had an s22(snapdragon) and tbh don’t recommend it, bad battery, laggy ui, mediocre cameras and it gets hot very easy.
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How about an Samsung S22+?
I'm ready to manually update my S20 ultra from 10 to 13 but there are some risks involved and I was wondering if it's really worth it. For example is the camera much better? Has anyone noticed a great improvement with the phone in general or is it like upgrading from windows 7 to 10 where you don't really notice any improvements?
You will notice that you made a mistake...
I wouldn't go beyond Android 10 without good reasons. Scoped storage is fully active on 12 and 13, and 11 is no cakewalk either.
Pie remains my weapon of choice. I have two N10+'s, one on Pie the other Q, both will remain there for their service lives more than likely.
blackhawk said:
You will notice that you made a mistake...
I wouldn't go beyond Android 10 without good reasons. Scoped storage is fully active on 12 and 13, and 11 is no cakewalk either.
Pie remains my weapon of choice. I have two N10+'s, one on Pie the other Q, both will remain there for their service lives more than likely.
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Thanks for replying. I'll leave it as it is then.
Galaxyuser75 said:
Thanks for replying. I'll leave it as it is then.
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You're welcome.
You can upgrade at anytime but you can't go back if the bootloader is upgraded too. The bootloader is upgraded when going from 10 to 11 which prevents a rollback, I believe.
All my legacy apps except Karma Firewall run ok on Android 10... it's pretty good. It has a few now features I like such as a more immersive dark mode. It looks and behaves almost identical to Pie. In 11 they start going iPhone nuts and it only gets worse from there.