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So I have a Verizon Pixel XL that has been unlocked, TWRP alpha installed, and rooted....
How shall I update my build? Should I even update the build?
My goal is to have the latest update running on my system (manually flashing or OTA I don't care) with an unlocked rooted Pixel XL that can broadcast wifi natively.
I have everthing down except the update piece. Any advice?
You have TWRP and root? How is that working? I was reading that SuperSu needs an update to work with it. Also many people who have taken the OTA (or even flash full system image) are getting stuck in the bouncing balls boot loop. I would hold off on updating. No real major changes as of yet.
Twrp is working fine but I have nothing to flash to test...????
networx2002 said:
Twrp is working fine but I have nothing to flash to test...????
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Yeah that is what I'm hinting at.... There is no updated ROM to work with TWRP yet that is updated to the latest Google Build
Root is working. I have twrp alpha 2. Root and elementalx 8 all installed. Although, im getting my daydream headset tomm. And when you install the app it tells you to check for updates. It says I have one. But if you look at the OTA updates NDE63 is the newest. Which im on. So I dn at this point. I guess i'll just roll with it for now. The dev that made purenexus that I ran on my nexus 6. Says hes working on it already and gets his on the 21st. So i'll just stick with what I have for now. I'm sure we'll see roms pretty soon
So, what is the proper/safe way to install an update without breaking anything? Losing root is not a concern since we can just reflash TWRP and SuperSU, but what's the process? Searching is not resulting in a guide that I can be 100% confident in.
I am rooted in my pixel XL. Can I accept OTA updates without losing root? If not, is there a developer/thread that has a safe update to flash? I am not on a custom ROM, I'm stock. Thanks
s1dest3pnate said:
So, what is the proper/safe way to install an update without breaking anything? Losing root is not a concern since we can just reflash TWRP and SuperSU, but what's the process? Searching is not resulting in a guide that I can be 100% confident in.
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jreink01 said:
I am rooted in my pixel XL. Can I accept OTA updates without losing root? If not, is there a developer/thread that has a safe update to flash? I am not on a custom ROM, I'm stock. Thanks
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Hit Google's Android OTA page, the file and directions are there to ADB sideload it. You will have to reroot and install TWRP if tou want that.
What i did was download the latest factory image from here from there I used this guide on post two section 8, installed the latest update, restored from cloud back up logged into all my apps (important if you use snapchat), reinstalled TWRP + Root + ElementalX and i was good to go, might seem like a little bit of work, but I've done it so many times I can get it done quickly now.
DeathSentinels said:
What i did was download the latest factory image from here from there I used this guide on post two section 8, installed the latest update, restored from cloud back up logged into all my apps (important if you use snapchat), reinstalled TWRP + Root + ElementalX and i was good to go, might seem like a little bit of work, but I've done it so many times I can get it done quickly now.
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If you edit the flash-all.bat file and take out the -w near the end you wont flash user data. So you can skip restoring your cloud backup and apps. Backup just to be safe though.
TonikJDK said:
Hit Google's Android OTA page, the file and directions are there to ADB sideload it. You will have to reroot and install TWRP if tou want that.
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Have a few more questions. If I do this procedure, is there the possibility that I won't be able to reroot with each update? If I do reroot and reinstall TWRP, is that like a factory reset where I will lose all my data? Back years ago when I would flash Roms, you could install a update without having to factory reset each time, Is this possible with the pixel with being stock? I would love to get the updates each month but don't want to do it if each time I have to reroot, reinstall TWRP and having all my data wiped. Thanks
jreink01 said:
Have a few more questions. If I do this procedure, is there the possibility that I won't be able to reroot with each update? If I do reroot and reinstall TWRP, is that like a factory reset where I will lose all my data? Back years ago when I would flash Roms, you could install a update without having to factory reset each time, Is this possible with the pixel with being stock? I would love to get the updates each month but don't want to do it if each time I have to reroot, reinstall TWRP and having all my data wiped. Thanks
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No, it won't stop you from re-rooting and it will not factory reset your phone. So each month you will not lose your data but you will have to reinstall TWRP and root.
TonikJDK said:
No, it won't stop you from re-rooting and it will not factory reset your phone. So each month you will not lose your data but you will have to reinstall TWRP and root.
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OK, thanks, that's good to know. When I lose root, will that mess with any of my apps that need root to work like titanium backup? Or will I just need to grant it user privileges again? I have never done this particular process before so I am a little weiry. Do you know of a step by step guide to do this? Sorry but I would feel more comfortable that way. Thanks for all you help and feedback, it's been years since I last went through the rooting, flashing process so, I guess I am being extra cautious. I have/am learning by the feedback you have given me.
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I am rooted with TWRP RC1
i never sideloaded an OTA before, alway applied factory images. Too lazy, but tired of all the rework.
i folllowed,
https://9to5google.com/2016/12/05/how-to-sideload-android-7-1-1-nmf26o-onto-the-pixel/
no data loss.
just had to use fastboot to reinstall TWRP and reflash SUPERSU.
All is well.
If I choose to side load it, do I root and install TWRP the same way I did when I first did this, with ADB on my windows PC? And side loading will work with a new operating system (when it comes out) along with the monthly security updates? I just checked and my latest security update is from January. If I updated March's update, would that automatically have the February one with it?
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TonikJDK said:
Hit Google's Android OTA page, the file and directions are there to ADB sideload it. You will have to reroot and install TWRP if tou want that.
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I went to the Google page but all of the links are to 7.1.1 which I am currently on 7.1.2. Plus I am just looking for the security update that just dropped for March.
jreink01 said:
I went to the Google page but all of the links are to 7.1.1 which I am currently on 7.1.2. Plus I am just looking for the security update that just dropped for March.
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Ok, didn't know that.
You are on a different path. You wait on Google for updates. There might be, there might not be. Certainly 7.1.2 will go live and we will all be on the same path and then 7.1.2 will get monthly updates, but when that is we don't know.
So for now you stay where you are, or you flash back to 7.1.1. we can do that without data loss if you want.
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Ok, didn't know that.
You are on a different path. You wait on Google for updates. There might be, there might not be. Certainly 7.1.2 will go live and we will all be on the same path and then 7.1.2 will get monthly updates, but when that is we don't know.
So for now you stay where you are, or you flash back to 7.1.1. we can do that without data loss if you want.
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Yes, I am in the beta program, that's why I am on this version. So, I'm assuming the beta's don't get updates then? I have turned off automatic updates since I'm rooted. Would you recommend I turn that back on or no? If I'm correct, I can't take a OTA since I'm rooted so I was correct in turning off automatic updates then? I will probably stay on this version since the difference is improvement and bug fixes. So, when 7.1.2 rolls out to everyone, then I would assume that that version would show up on the Google page then?
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I have a Verizon Pixel XL with unlocked bootloader, TWRP, and root on NHG47K. I have been updating it via sideloading the OTAs since I got the phone. I've seen on the forums that a lot of people flash the full factory image. I wanted to know what the difference was between sideloading the OTA vs flashing the full factory image?
There is not too much difference,
OTA is changing only what has been changed, size varies with 100 MB to 600 MB of more. But if you had some problems with unchanged partitions they may not fixed.
Factory image flashing has bigger size (latest is 1.8 GB), wiping your data by default (manually editing for non wipe is possible), mainly for fresh start even without wiping data.
Thanks for the info. Couple more questions:
1. Does sideloading just the OTA, flip the active slot?
2. Is there a way to check if the April OTA updated the bootloader as well. I'm guessing the May OTA does update the bootloader since applying it has broken TWRP and root for people.
savi0 said:
Thanks for the info. Couple more questions:
1. Does sideloading just the OTA, flip the active slot?
2. Is there a way to check if the April OTA updated the bootloader as well. I'm guessing the May OTA does update the bootloader since applying it has broken TWRP and root for people.
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Hello,
1 - OTA will install on the other slot.
2 - International April version has the same bootloader as March and earlier versions. There is an updated bootloader for Verizon, not the one that breaks Root/TWRP by the way. The May OTA does brake Root/TWRP.
Cheers...
5.1 said:
Hello,
1 - OTA will install on the other slot.
2 - International April version has the same bootloader as March and earlier versions. There is an updated bootloader for Verizon, not the one that breaks Root/TWRP by the way. The May OTA does brake Root/TWRP.
Cheers...
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To clarify your meaning... The May Verizon OTA does or does not break root?
sliding_billy said:
To clarify your meaning... The May Verizon OTA does or does not break root?
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Hello,
Every May releases break Root. It's a general security patch for Pixel devices (as far as I understand).
Cheers...
sliding_billy said:
To clarify your meaning... The May Verizon OTA does or does not break root?
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Applying the OTA or flashing a full factory image does "break" root and TWRP in the sense that you have to reflash TWRP and apply root again. Apparently the May factory image/OTA is applying a new bootloader which is not allowing the re-application of TWRP and root after flashing. Chainfire made a post detailing that it was due to the new May bootloader detecting an unsigned image, ie TWRP, and then not allowing it to boot.
Here is the link to that post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
savi0 said:
Applying the OTA or flashing a full factory image does "break" root and TWRP in the sense that you have to reflash TWRP and apply root again.
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Hello,
If you try to reinstall Root or TWRP after May OTA I think you are going to have a bad surprise. It's up to you...
savi0 said:
Apparently the May factory image/OTA is applying a new bootloader which is not allowing the re-application of TWRP and root after flashing. Chainfire made a post detailing that it was due to the new May bootloader detecting an unsigned image, ie TWRP, and then not allowing it to boot.
Here is the link to that post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...signing-boot-images-android-verified-t3600606
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First you say you have to reapply TWRP and Root and now you say it won't allow it... You shouldn't reinstall either TWRP or Root on May bootloader for the moment.
If you want those, flash the April bootloader as stated in other threads talking about the issue...
Cheers...
5.1 said:
First you say you have to reapply TWRP and Root and now you say it won't allow it... You shouldn't reinstall either TWRP or Root on May bootloader for the moment.
If you want those, flash the April bootloader as stated in other threads talking about the issue...
Cheers...
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Sorry, I should have clarified that you are only able to apply TWRP and root to images and bootloaders that were released before the May updates.
You are absolutely right in that that I should not be installing TWRP or Root on the May bootloader because it'll result in bootloops.
savi0 said:
Sorry, I should have clarified that you are only able to apply TWRP and root to images and bootloaders that were released before the May updates.
You are absolutely right in that that I should not be installing TWRP or Root on the May bootloader because it'll result in bootloops.
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Hey,
As a workaround, you can flash April bootloader. It's not a big deal and works fine anyway.
Cheers...
5.1 said:
Hello,
Every May releases break Root. It's a general security patch for Pixel devices (as far as I understand).
Cheers...
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That's what I assumed you meant (that the new BL was in all May builds), but your working sounded like maybe it was left out of the Verizon OTA build. I'm just waiting patiently for a TWRP/SU build that doesn't need me to mismatch the BL. It wasn't like there was any functional reason to upgrade in May.
sliding_billy said:
That's what I assumed you meant (that the new BL was in all May builds), but your working sounded like maybe it was left out of the Verizon OTA build. I'm just waiting patiently for a TWRP/SU build that doesn't need me to mismatch the BL. It wasn't like there was any functional reason to upgrade in May.
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Yeah. A few posts above yours @savi0 pointed to a Chainfire posts relating the issue. You can also check the last posts from EX Kernel. flar2 posted a link to the latest security bulletin...
Normally, we won't have to wait too long to get back TWRP/Root.
Cheers...
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I'm just waiting patiently for a TWRP/SU build that doesn't need me to mismatch the BL. It wasn't like there was any functional reason to upgrade in May.
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Although I have the Automatic system update option shut off, in the past my Pixel has used cellular data while remaining on the prior version after the update notification appears. I think the phone wasted about 1 GB the last time I didn't take an OTA update. That essentially means I can not take the update and possibly cause the phone to waste cellular data, shut off cellular data to avoid the usage while remaining on the prior version, or take the update. Actually I have seen a fourth option linked below, but that keeps my phone constantly awake and doesn't allow deep sleep, so I never tried the alteration long enough to see if it would avoid cellular data usage if the change was made before the OTA notification.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/
alluringreality said:
Although I have the Automatic system update option shut off, in the past my Pixel has used cellular data while remaining on the prior version after the update notification appears. I think the phone wasted about 1 GB the last time I didn't take an OTA update. That essentially means I can not take the update and possibly cause the phone to waste cellular data, shut off cellular data to avoid the usage while remaining on the prior version, or take the update. Actually I have seen a fourth option linked below, but that keeps my phone constantly awake and doesn't allow deep sleep, so I never tried the alteration long enough to see if it would avoid cellular data usage if the change was made before the OTA notification.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/
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Hello,
I don't understand what you mean when you say:
alluringreality said:
That essentially means I can not take the update and possibly cause the phone to waste cellular data, shut off cellular data to avoid the usage while remaining on the prior version, or take the update
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If you have issues, just sideload the latest OTA from Google here:
https://developers.google.com/android/ota
Instructions are available on this page.
Good luck...
alluringreality said:
Although I have the Automatic system update option shut off, in the past my Pixel has used cellular data while remaining on the prior version after the update notification appears. I think the phone wasted about 1 GB the last time I didn't take an OTA update. That essentially means I can not take the update and possibly cause the phone to waste cellular data, shut off cellular data to avoid the usage while remaining on the prior version, or take the update. Actually I have seen a fourth option linked below, but that keeps my phone constantly awake and doesn't allow deep sleep, so I never tried the alteration long enough to see if it would avoid cellular data usage if the change was made before the OTA notification.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/
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I have been concerned about the system using data while waiting to update the phone, but I do not see that happening. I have automatic update turned off in dev settings as well as the google play services notification disables so as not to accidental click it. I see the update available if I look at the check for updates area in system, but it just is sitting at the download and install option there. I have checked my data use since the BL issue came about, and there is no data use besides normal.
Mainly I was just noting that not taking an update can potentially result in cellular data usage, in case anyone wasn't aware of the possible issue. The top items in my cellular data usage were the same as the images in the following thread when I avoided taking an OTA update.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/android-os-sucking-mobile-data-t3597680/
savi0 said:
Sorry, I should have clarified that you are only able to apply TWRP and root to images and bootloaders that were released before the May updates.
You are absolutely right in that that I should not be installing TWRP or Root on the May bootloader because it'll result in bootloops.
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Will the factory images (May or after) lacking the "Verizon" designation lock my Bootloader if flashed to a Verizon Pixel XL (That currently has Unlocked BL and TWRP)?
Sorry, but this is getting Hella confusing.
I'm going to update TWRP, then planning on flashing Factory Image 8.1.0 (OPM1.171019.021, Mar 2018) https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/marlin-ota-nhg47q-73c108b9.zip
Do I need to worry about anything flashing this build?
Just trying to make sure I don't screw myself here, as I really NEED an unlocked Bootloader/ROOT... but I'm still running 7.1.1
Wish there was a forum for us with Verizon Pixels and Unlocked BL's...
PrettyPistol555 said:
Will the factory images (May or after) lacking the "Verizon" designation lock my Bootloader if flashed to a Verizon Pixel XL (That currently has Unlocked BL and TWRP)?
Sorry, but this is getting Hella confusing.
I'm going to update TWRP, then planning on flashing Factory Image 8.1.0 (OPM1.171019.021, Mar 2018) https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/marlin-ota-nhg47q-73c108b9.zip
Do I need to worry about anything flashing this build?
Just trying to make sure I don't screw myself here, as I really NEED an unlocked Bootloader/ROOT... but I'm still running 7.1.1
Wish there was a forum for us with Verizon Pixels and Unlocked BL's...
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If OEM unlocking is toggled and your bootloader is unlocked, just assume it is a google version. Flashing a factory image can't lock your bootloader.
shagbag913 said:
If OEM unlocking is toggled and your bootloader is unlocked, just assume it is a google version. Flashing a factory image can't lock your bootloader.
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The "OEM unlocking" setting is greyed out. And underneath it says "bootloader is already unlocked" (slider is to the left).
That is what you mean by "toggled", correct?
Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it greatly.
PrettyPistol555 said:
The "OEM unlocking" setting is greyed out. And underneath it says "bootloader is already unlocked" (slider is to the left).
That is what you mean by "toggled", correct?
Thanks for the reply! I appreciate it greatly.
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Yep.
Hi everyone, these may be of help to you. I'm not a dev so all I was doing here was using a rooted Sirocco to pull OTA files off the phone (data/ota_package). Using logcat/android bug report doesn't catch OTA URL on this device. It's my understanding they will need to be unpacked.
Files are in order of download/installation from A1N-310B-0-00WW-B03-OST604 onwards. That full firmware can be obtained here thanks to Hikari (Under Sirocco) https://hikaricalyx.com/fih-android-firmware/
The boot image for the firmware above can be found in the zip. It's already unpacked (A1N-0-310B-00WW-boot.img).
OTA 1 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/EeQeHyR.png)
https://mega.nz/#!SA1U3SzR!WAUtzV5AH2g6jYUYqhrUfMNh_tOe7ziNhNwZ8eZBxew
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!2J8wBaBR!PbYVY4Ysr4l9idxReLrJe6wWu83KRy5tO29j0H2b3Ew
OTA 2 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/AOvs4Ps.png)
https://mega.nz/#!mB0EgCRa!oEKAxCl5iGnR3rHC91te0mgU3JgW3AXAO991kR4nj9g
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!iU1WlKxT!mz1VrSGS987BbiPj1nvyUQzb4GEBw3686onS6ymctJI
OTA 3 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/nEpvMq2.png)
https://mega.nz/#!rNNAhASA!5_CdYQIym6iqc5ycN6wMqG0XvzrsCf70I3VQsy8bjFg
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!SJt0WSxK!UkG4DbsDmUwIzExcmG1qo2xqhRk4lJlylhWHfMFJxfM
OTA 4 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/QH6Dnox.png)
https://mega.nz/#!HF8WlKDS!OpfBdAEUJSe_vzTebdCGg_DN_8Kzj5UZVG29x8aG6Q8
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!7Usw1aKS!jEoZDlj5mtu5tqVpVG7XFaHLdDleiq3M6GBfy7_IUzc
OTA 5 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/bDSCAqX.png)
https://mega.nz/#!XUlWFKiC!_trT2aVmGQVhD-lzeZjWEn2LlmRZ4d6CMrKuAB41kkw
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!KVl2WKqT!AcDI4YSOSo6vBe4Jb3FrOBsKGzO-KM5a8gowgNQXHog
OTA 6 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/ColEcRJ.png)
https://mega.nz/#!DE8QxSDQ!G1xRrjN9do28trYeQT-E9jAYmP7dszuXMKZ8kpmhcMI
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!XB9EnY4A!UxLAX0hBabbKy09pGQz_BLQW9Hy5Lz0K4y15uVJcY7o
OTA 7 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/Tll0QuI.png)
https://mega.nz/#!zUsAzKLZ!TngURPA1pDUFjrmsrWvVglLmkE3GGGE4qX53-Vp38iU
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!jck0iAjI!nEd890ZxQS1OaXX4ELNtdsIsa3TJZxddC1D7faPOB9U
OTA 8 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/HsZLwV4.png)
https://mega.nz/#!3dtEXQwY!CY6J3auoDeMelGSDmQiAJgOBHw3eH-sxrA3x51gXQ-U
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!SQsUUYSD!iBwTMYd4OEDJJ7Me-zb2SnfPghc2me_ZEYR6SrdOkgU
OTA 9 (Changelog - https://i.imgur.com/eLVqDrM.png)
https://mega.nz/#!CEc1GQ7L!EiZYCubGDf5C97NNQDLZxmjcEaw555FbxHKvMNveZDw
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!mNFzVCbD!RNTJI1_oPiHSapyykE0szjosBo_QnIoJiGZ0EQtmzqY
OTA 10 - Pie (Changelog - https://us.v-cdn.net/6031042/uploads/editor/je/y2ok3dg0norb.png)
https://mega.nz/#!fYUAgQJY!p6kO-B-IFwz0NhDv4ZlrDCQYKQGakH3fy9GbfG_kmDM
Boot image - https://mega.nz/#!qANy1a7b!ODh8ol97h8qJwZGndUCHqyG3qifnsfT7ILkggDaVoFA
Magisk patched boot - https://mega.nz/#!HYVimArR!m7BHM2iYVZVstTFx0W-zB01cSN-bb4lquKiYUmXoIm4
edit: TWRP removed, buggy
OTA 3 zip was corrupt, it has been replaced.
Also for helping out anyone who gets their Sirocco unlocked, this is a pre-rooted boot image for A1N-310B-0-00WW-B03-OST604
You can use this to do fastboot boot patched_boot.img and then use Magisk to root your device.
https://mega.nz/#!6dMgjCjL!KRkB39ppPp4RA0Wj57yjIjiXaE6B21f-B488yQFc61s
You can, of course, do the above yourself if you have a second phone that is rooted and go into Magisk and patch one of the stock file boot images above.
Now you can do OTAs and keep root
STEPS_TO_UPDATE:
1. Go into Magisk Manager -> Uninstall -> Restore Images
2. Apply Update, DO NOT REBOOT YET
3. When step to finished and it promts you to reboot go into Magisk Manager -> Install -> Install to inactive Slot
Congratulations you can now reboot and will have an updated Android while keeping full root.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-8/how-to/guide-how-to-root-nokia-8-ability-to-t3848390
If anyone is already on the November security update with this device and wants to root without downgrading, here is a magisk patched boot image
https://mega.nz/#!HBcHzYCB!KpqytpNth0Vfu3K9eX0vbP7heJ3MFPm6MX4ozC5L_qk
December security update added as OTA 9.
No Pie yet
Audioboxer said:
December security update added as OTA 9.
No Pie yet
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Its a shame.
December patched boot for anyone who's had this phone unlocked and has done OTAs up to December without rooting
https://mega.nz/#!6R8RCIoB!ZPR7s-w4LWDXO1UcI7GBuhf7U0U3fujHLQIc6qlqx2g
As always, fastboot boot this image to root your phone with Magisk direct install. Do not flash my boot images, otherwise, you won't be able to do the OTA trick above with Magisk.
Removed: Oreo homebrew packages by Hikari are buggy, avoid.
So i found this...
https://mega.nz/#F!W50gzawY!nC8Yb9yE6n08gGafFi700A
The A1N-4120 is a Pie build. A guy i met on twitter installed it and said it is a decent build without bugs. I'm a bit hesitant to install it. I'm afraid that if i install it and the offical update comes out i can't update via OTA. Is there a way to revert back to 8.1?
The guy's phone isn't rooted or unlocked.
Still, he says it's the official build from HMD. They are holding it back... If that's true it's kinda sad...
marccoppers said:
So i found this...
https://mega.nz/#F!W50gzawY!nC8Yb9yE6n08gGafFi700A
The A1N-4120 is a Pie build. A guy i met on twitter installed it and said it is a decent build without bugs. I'm a bit hesitant to install it. I'm afraid that if i install it and the offical update comes out i can't update via OTA. Is there a way to revert back to 8.1?
The guy's phone isn't rooted or unlocked.
Still, he says it's the official build from HMD. They are holding it back... If that's true it's kinda sad...
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It's the internal OTA and he wasn't sensible installing it without BL unlock
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ide-how-to-install-android-pie-build-t3885834
These internal builds don't pass safetynet so Google Pay will not work. It is also unknown how to get back onto retail OTAs without an unlocked bootloader. When HMD did the Nokia 8 beta test they had an official rollback method.
I'd strongly advise staying away from this if you haven't unlocked the BL. The build wasn't all that good either, missing adaptive battery, pro camera, Pie themeing and more. From above two new OTAs exist since the December pie build. I'll try them and see if anything has been added.
Audioboxer said:
It's the internal OTA and he wasn't sensible installing it without BL unlock
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ide-how-to-install-android-pie-build-t3885834
These internal builds don't pass safetynet so Google Pay will not work. It is also unknown how to get back onto retail OTAs without an unlocked bootloader. When HMD did the Nokia 8 beta test they had an official rollback method.
I'd strongly advise staying away from this if you haven't unlocked the BL. The build wasn't all that good either, missing adaptive battery, pro camera, Pie themeing and more. From above two new OTAs exist since the December pie build. I'll try them and see if anything has been added.
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Thanx for the reply! Gonna stay away from it then... Usually i try everything, but since the BL is still officially locked there aren't that many people out there that can help when things go wrong. Especially with this being my daily phone, i don't want to mess it up.
marccoppers said:
Thanx for the reply! Gonna stay away from it then... Usually i try everything, but since the BL is still officially locked there aren't that many people out there that can help when things go wrong. Especially with this being my daily phone, i don't want to mess it up.
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Yeah, it's not worth it, Pie should drop this month.
With the Nokia 8, HMD advised if you stayed on the beta you'd get 1 OTA and that would be it. You basically had to rollback.
In order for us to flash firmware packages, we need an unlocked bootloader if HMD isn't providing an official rollback method. As it seems we won't get an official beta test for the Sirocco it's a bad idea anyone with a locked bootloader flashing these internal releases.
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Yeah, it's not worth it, Pie should drop this month.
With the Nokia 8, HMD advised if you stayed on the beta you'd get 1 OTA and that would be it. You basically had to rollback.
In order for us to flash firmware packages, we need an unlocked bootloader if HMD isn't providing an official rollback method. As it seems we won't get an official beta test for the Sirocco it's a bad idea anyone with a locked bootloader flashing these internal releases.
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That was my guess to. Thanx for the info.
You are wrong. And I am the guy he met on twitter. And btw he is referring to Nokia 8 Sirocco and sorry but could you explain how you termed as insensible. I downloaded the internal OTA and then rebooted the phone in safe mode and the update automatically installed. For your information
1. Adaptive battery is there
2. Wellbeing is there
3. Pro camera is there.
So stop being judgemental. Nokia 8 and Nokia 8 Sirocco and two different handsets. Nokia 8 is what you mentioned above . So next time mind Ur tongue while u talk
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You are wrong. And I am the guy he met on twitter. And btw he is referring to Nokia 8 Sirocco and sorry but could you explain how you termed as insensible. I downloaded the internal OTA and then rebooted the phone in safe mode and the update automatically installed. For your information
1. Adaptive battery is there
2. Wellbeing is there
3. Pro camera is there.
So stop being judgemental. Nokia 8 and Nokia 8 Sirocco and two different handsets. Nokia 8 is what you mentioned above . So next time mind Ur tongue while u talk
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My advice was just following what Nokia devs like Calyx Hikari state. If you do not have an unlocked bootloader its best not to install internal OTAs because there is no way to revert to retail FW. The Nokia 8 had an official beta test so there was a way to rollback off of the beta Pie firmware to Oreo again, to then install the final Pie OTA.
Otherwise you need an unlocked bootloader to flash an Oreo/Pie retail package with LA OST.
I don't mean to offend anyone, I just don't want anyone installing these leaked OTAs on their bootloader locked device and being stuck.
Currently, there's no way to roll back to Android 8.1 for Nokia 8 Sirocco by yourself, so use these packages at your own risk.
It will be better if you're using prototype device or a retail device with unlocked bootloader.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...stall-android-pie-build-t3885834/post78591840
Nokia 8 Sirocco doesn't need any bootloader to be unlocked.
Nokia 8 Sirocco doesn't need bootloader to be unlocked. Like I got it and others who installed got it without doing the same. You just have to downloaded the A1N 4200 file and reboot the phone to safe mode and the phone automatically detects the update. So I assume that's pretty much official and valid .
Don't know why people end up spreading rumours without knowing the real picture. Just because one device works in a specfic way doesn't mean every device functions the same way.
Plus Nokia 8 Sirrocco gets all the features a full fledged android one device gets including the below
1. Adaptive Battery
2. Gestures
3. Digital Wellbeing
I myself wanted to write a review and a video but never written one for mobile devices, I have done for vehicles.
And most importantly Nokia 8 and Nokia 8 Sirocco are different mobiles . The only common point is The processor.
Pie OTA Rom
Now that the official PIE OTA has been released can anyone capture it and post a link to the file? It can take weeks to reach people over the air sometimes!
Thanks
Let's say they will be captured, can i install them with a locked bootloader?
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Let's say they will be captured, can i install them with a locked bootloader?
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I did on the Nokia 8 and the Nokia 7 plus by downloading to the device, renaming the file and using the phone keypad ( *#*#874#*#*) so I assume it will be the same on the Sirocco?
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Let's say they will be captured, can i install them with a locked bootloader?
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Sideloading the OTA via ADB can be done on a locked bootloader. The method by EGGMEN should work as well. :good:
Hi, I have MIUI 11/ Android 10 11.0.1 (Indonesia ROM) installed on my device and I have rooted it successfully with Magisk without TWRP.
Let me Tell you some Main Points about this device after my months of experience and Lot of Research about this device.
- Latest official TWRP version doesn't work on this device, and device goes into bootloop. Doesn't matter whatever you do, You have to flash ROM again to prevent bootloop.
- After Flashing ROM or Magisk, You must need to disable AVB, to prevent bootloop, you can find the command on TWRP web.
- MediaTek Processor on this device isn't a mess now, as Kernel source code has already released by Xiaomi.
And there are number of developments have been done already to prevent device from brick.
- Cameras on this Device are Great from Hardware side, but Unfortunately MIUI stock cam is garbage, and can't produce Nice quality Pictures.
- I have personally bricked this device many times, and fortunately always found a solution to get out of the mess.
Anybody reading this post, has any type of question, can ask And I will try my best to Help him/her
Overall, This Device is a great Powerhouse and
I request Developers to Kindly plz continue Development regarding Camera and I hope Xiaomi.eu will support this device for their ROM's in near future
Regards,
Moaz-Qudeer
I want to update to A10 but i am afraid i will lose factory preloader.... any ideas? i mean the anti brick preloader
Saadbinaamer said:
I want to update to A10 but i am afraid i will lose factory preloader.... any ideas? i mean the anti brick preloader
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No, You can update software without worries it would b better if you're updating through OTA, otherwise .zip method is also safe, just make sure that you have removed root access from your device (if rooted) before updating.
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No, You can update software without worries it would b better if you're updating through OTA, otherwise .zip method is also safe, just make sure that you have removed root access from your device (if rooted) before updating.
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This contradicts some reports on the Megathread. I strongly recommend against OTA and zip sideloading/recovery install, unless you're ok with losing anti-brick preloader.
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This contradicts some reports on the Megathread. I strongly recommend against OTA and zip sideloading/recovery install, unless you're ok with losing anti-brick preloader.
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Read my 1st post again, I already said developments have been done in this regard already and there are much less brick risks now, I updated my device Android 9>>10 with recovery .zip method by placing .zip file into "downloaded_rom" folder. And Let me mention that my device had Bootloader unlocked before updating you can check attached screenshot.
Moazqudeer said:
Read my 1st post again, I already said developments have been done in this regard already and there are much less brick risks now, I updated my device Android 9>>10 with recovery .zip method by placing .zip file into "downloaded_rom" folder. And Let me mention that my device had Bootloader unlocked before updating you can check attached screenshot.
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Yes, you can update Android 9 -> Android 10. The question is: Do you still have the factory preloader? Because that's what @Saadbinaamer was asking about. Otherwise, yeah, sure, you can update any way you want to Android 10.
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Yes, you can update Android 9 -> Android 10. The question is: Do you still have the factory preloader? Because that's what @Saadbinaamer was asking about. Otherwise, yeah, sure, you can update any way you want to Android 10.
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Yes, you should have Factory Preloader after Updating, Just make sure your device is not rooted before update.
Moazqudeer said:
Yes, you should have Factory Preloader after Updating, Just make sure your device is not rooted before update.
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Kindly confirm at your end
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Kindly confirm at your end
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Yes, confirmed from my side, I have factory preloader installed after update
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Yes, confirmed from my side, I have factory preloader installed after update
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Okay so I updated to MIUI 12; Android 10 (China Beta Rom). Though I have TWRP and Magisk installed but I don't have factory pre-loader anymore. I watched a YouTube video in which the uploader said that the new factory pre-loader will be available soon for the said Android version and the former one can't be used.
soleali said:
Okay so I updated to MIUI 12; Android 10 (China Beta Rom). Though I have TWRP and Magisk installed but I don't have factory pre-loader anymore. I watched a YouTube video in which the uploader said that the new factory pre-loader will be available soon for the said Android version and the former one can't be used.
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I don't know about MIUI 12, as I said already, I have MIUI 11, Android 10 Installed.
My Phone is HARDBRICK and haven't installed preloader lk
How you Unbrick your device without preloader instal before..? In Android 9...
there should be clear tutorials and in execution order because often not very clear and people will not understand everything
Having issues installing beta 3.3 on my 6 pro.. did a factory reset then tried installing it. First time it took forever to install and phone rebooted and had missing operating system so I had to factory reset.. second time I got a failed to install message.. rebooted the phone and it said no operating system please visit this link from another device.. rebooted then phone worked normal.. what is going on here ? Phone is purchased from att, so idk if it's considered global version but whatever either way . Is there something stopping it from being installed? Was trying to do all this OTA.. thanks kinda new to it
I'm not sure if it being an att version has anything to do with it or not.. maybe the version google releases is only working on unlocked global models?? Someone shine some light on this..
You can use https://flash.android.com/ to flash with a computer.
So why would the flash tool work but not the ota method ?? Really curious cause when the official comes out hopefully I can flash that ota without any issues.. right now I opted out of the beta cause I really want the ota method to work and it doesn't ..
Can someone tell me why the ota wouldn't install ? Installed it the way I installed any other update on the phone through check for updates.. Id rather get ota working vs hassling with a computer to install it. That can mess things up if done wrong .
Is it failing to ota install the beta cause of a locked bootloader ? It does fine with install ota security patches on Android 12. Trying to install 13 ota on the phone itself fails.. I don't see why that would be though ?
@Redbeardkevv Welcome to XDA. Instead of posting multiple times in a row, please use the Edit button to edit your post and just add to it, in the future.
Official Google Android Flash Tool (OEM Unlocking needs to be toggled on - you may not have to manually unlock the bootloader - the "site" will do that on its own)
^ That Google site has saved many users on XDA. It has revived or corrected a mistake on their devices (mine too, once) when even flashing the full factory image didn't fix the problem. I have no idea what exactly it does that manually flashing doesn't. I normally use the full factory image zip, and that alone sometimes fixes issues that users have when they have issues flashing via the OTA method.
Oem unlocking toggled on isn't an option on this phone , purchased at att . I'll just wait till they release the official ota. But what would of been holding it up and making the installs corrupt??
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Oem unlocking toggled on isn't an option on this phone , purchased at att . I'll just wait till they release the official ota. But what would of been holding it up and making the installs corrupt??
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Factory Images for Nexus and Pixel Devices | Google Play services | Google for Developers
developer.android.com
Important excerpt:
Android Flash Tool guides you step-by-step through the process of flashing your device—there's no need to have tools installed—but you will need to unlock your device and enable USB Debugging in Developer options.
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If I remember correctly from other AT&T variant Pixel 6 Pro users in this section, once you pay off the phone and/or own the phone for long enough, AT&T should carrier unlock the phone, and that will likely make it so that you can OEM Unlocking and unlock the bootloader. (this also applies to T-Mobile, but does not apply to Verizon)
Well it's a far ways from being paid off I'll just add that .. what are my flashing options ? Also why would a security patch install just fine, then I enroll into beta ,try to install it, and bam it won't install and is corrupt install. Just doesn't seem right to me.. should I just wait until official release early August and then the OTA install from phone will work ?
Why would a security patch install without any issue , but I go to install this beta 13 and it fails and is corrupt . Same method as installing a security patch , only difference is beta won't install . Will it install correctly OTA when they release the final version in August ???
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Why would a security patch install without any issue , but I go to install this beta 13 and it fails and is corrupt . Same method as installing a security patch , only difference is beta won't install . Will it install correctly OTA when they release the final version in August ???
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Firstly, unlocked bootloader is required to flash custom or beta firmware. While you can sideload OTA packages on a locked bootloader, I would highly recommend against doing so as you may end up with no way to recover your device.
When installing a beta, it is generally best to wipe and perform a clean flash. OTA is not recommended because beta software by nature is not yet suitable for public release, and may not appropriately handle everything correctly coming from older firmware.
As has been mentioned before, I recommend you use the Android Flash Tool to flash the beta. To ensure you have a fresh start, tick the Wipe device and Force flash all partitions boxes. Do not re-lock the bootloader.
So in short, wait for the official ota to roll out in August and install from phone then?? Cause I won't be able to unlock bootloader , phones not paid off... Would this explain why it's failing to install an beta from within the phone itself cause the bootloader's locked? So I have to wait for official ota rollout like I said earlier ??
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So in short, wait for the official ota to roll out in August and install from phone then?? Cause I won't be able to unlock bootloader , phones not paid off... Would this explain why it's failing to install an beta from within the phone itself cause the bootloader's locked? So I have to wait for official ota rollout like I said earlier ??
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Most likely. I doubt the beta will pass signature verification until it is updated to public release.
So not passing signature verification would be the reason it won't install ( ota ) most likely ? I'm just confused why a patch will install ota but the beta cannot .. must have something to do with bootloader being locked and it not being an official verified release or something
Just curious
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Just curious
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Yes, you need the bootloader unlocked. So you cannot use those builds - only officially released OS builds.
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Yes, you need the bootloader unlocked. So you cannot use those builds - only officially released OS builds.
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Well that explains it not installing and saying corrupted install ... Lol
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Well that explains it not installing and saying corrupted install ... Lol
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It's a beta, so there will be issues for sure (but your last comment said you are getting an error [device is corrupt] that was common a few months ago so read on). You don't need to have an unlocked bootloader to enroll in the beta. Tons of users on Verizon and AT&T with a locked BL have installed the beta. Most are fine, some have had issues.
I wouldn't install a Beta on a locked BL. Why risk it? If something goes wrong, you'll need to get a warranty replacement. Seems like such a hassle.
For your issue, since you said you're getting a device corrupt message. This message is caused by q few different things (there's a thread on here about it). To fix it, users needed to do a factory reset in recovery mode. If you really wanted to try installing the beta (and you understand the risks), you'd probably need to: go to recovery mode and perform a wipe/factory reset.
From there, you could install the latest stable ota (via recovery mode) then see if the beta will update for you (via beta enrollment like you are trying to do), or directly flash the beta ota (link below). I'm just not sure if you can flash a beta ota image, over a stable build. I haven't tried it but according to xda, you can be on Android 12, and flash the Beta 13 ota (instructions found here).
There's two ways to flash an Android image: ota builds via recovery mode (doesn't require BL unlock) and factory image via fastboot which can be done manually or using Google's web flash tool (flash.android.com) - both if these require BL unlock.
You can find all the latest image downloads here. Google strongly recommends to flash the beta with an unlocked bootloader using their flash web tool. It's a beta so I would stay away until you can unlock your bootloader. Don't risk it. But I still think it might be a good idea for you to eventually perform a factory reset from recovery mode, since you are seeing the device is corrupt error message.
Had same problem, tried installing it twice and gave up