Contacts sync to Google - Redmi Note 8 Questions & Answers

Stefan / Germany.
Thanks everyone for Your service!
My Redmi Note8T doesn't synchronize my contacts to the Google cloud.
As contra measures to excessive advertising I deleteded all system updates and didn't create a Miui account.
The latter I read could be the cause for my contacts not to sync into the Google cloud. I have tried to work around that by installing the Google contact synchronisation app from the Google Play Store but it didn't download at all. So I tried APKMirror where the app was available in several 6+ and 10 versions with nothing in between to match P9 (according to Droid info my system software at hand).
I chose the latest 6+ version but cannot locate the executed app nor do the contacts sync with Google now …
Thanks so much for Your help.
Stefan

Lodidol said:
Stefan / Germany.
Thanks everyone for Your service!
My Redmi Note8T doesn't synchronize my contacts to the Google cloud.
As contra measures to excessive advertising I deleteded all system updates and didn't create a Miui account.
The latter I read could be the cause for my contacts not to sync into the Google cloud. I have tried to work around that by installing the Google contact synchronisation app from the Google Play Store but it didn't download at all. So I tried APKMirror where the app was available in several 6+ and 10 versions with nothing in between to match P9 (according to Droid info my system software at hand).
I chose the latest 6+ version but cannot locate the executed app nor do the contacts sync with Google now …
Thanks so much for Your help.
Stefan
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Regards the ads, you have in settings on every app (or almost) the ads/personalize ads to choose from showing or not.
Regards the contacts issue, enter to /Settings/Google/Settings for Google app/Google Contacts sync and check that all is correct there.

SubwayChamp said:
Regards the ads, you have in settings on every app (or almost) the ads/personalize ads to choose from showing or not.
Regards the contacts issue, enter to /Settings/Google/Settings for Google app/Google Contacts sync and check that all is correct there.
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Unfortunately I have neither succeeded in even finding possibilities to personalize apps like contacts, calendar, file-management, playstore that all showed advertisements before deleting their updates nor could I find anything wrong with the settings for Google sync …

Lodidol said:
Unfortunately I have neither succeeded in even finding possibilities to personalize apps like contacts, calendar, file-management, playstore that all showed advertisements before deleting their updates nor could I find anything wrong with the settings for Google sync …
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When you face the first setup, you have to see from the 5 items (all checked) at least 3 items related with ads, you have to uncheck. After that, take for example the Miui Music app, from the settings you can find an option to disable ads, the same happens with the Miui Files and so on. When I spend the time waiting to unlock bootloader always I do that, and I don't have annoying ads disturbing me all the time, we have to get apart from that, browser behavior, it's a different thing, some ads don't rely on Xiaomi itself, TBH.
Actually I'm running a custom ROM based on AOSP, but in the path that I gave you can see, the number of contacts that's synchronized, I have to guess that you're doing something wrong, can you share some screenshot from this path? To see what's saying.

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I Can't Add Facebook as an Account, Help

When I go into Accounts & Sync in the settings menu and try to add Facebook as an account, it doesn't work. I click to add facebook but it just returns me to the settings and never adds it. It works perfect for Twitter, LinkedIn, and other apps as well. Anyone else having this happen too? I've tried uninstalling and clearing all data, didn't work.
Arcadia310 said:
When I go into Accounts & Sync in the settings menu and try to add Facebook as an account, it doesn't work. I click to add facebook but it just returns me to the settings and never adds it. It works perfect for Twitter, LinkedIn, and other apps as well. Anyone else having this happen too? I've tried uninstalling and clearing all data, didn't work.
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Same here. Don't think its setup for ICS yet
Facebook has not made an app that actually works with Android. Many companies, like HTC, have made apps for that by themselves. Facebook and Google are not on friendly terms when it comes to sharing contacts data, so this might not change anytime soon.
Doesn't that make the People Hub pointless then? All of my "real" friends are on Facebook, not Google+, Twitter, or LinkedIn so it doesn't sync any real info or high def pictures.
kristovaher said:
Facebook has not made an app that actually works with Android. Many companies, like HTC, have made apps for that by themselves. Facebook and Google are not on friendly terms when it comes to sharing contacts data, so this might not change anytime soon.
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Arcadia310 said:
Doesn't that make the People Hub pointless then? All of my "real" friends are on Facebook, not Google+, Twitter, or LinkedIn so it doesn't sync any real info or high def pictures.
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It seems like they want everyone using Google+ Most of my personel friends are on Facebook also but, I hardly use Facebook. Hopefully they will fix it this for people who want to use it.
http://heartofangel.com/google-contact-sync/
qnet said:
It seems like they want everyone using Google+ Most of my personel friends are on Facebook also but, I hardly use Facebook. Hopefully they will fix it this for people who want to use it.
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Wrong.
Google does not develop Facebook app. Facebook does.
kristovaher said:
Facebook has not made an app that actually works with Android. Many companies, like HTC, have made apps for that by themselves. Facebook and Google are not on friendly terms when it comes to sharing contacts data, so this might not change anytime soon.
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That's not entirely true. Facebook sync used to work with all Nexus devices but Google themselves pulled the sync due to them not allowing contacts to also be exported to Android devices. From Google:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/22/google-android-facebook-contacts/
“We believe it is very important that users are able to control their data. So in the over-the-air update for Nexus S, we have a small change to how Facebook contacts appear on the device. For Nexus S users who downloaded the Facebook app from Android Market, Facebook contacts will no longer appear to be integrated with the Android Contacts app. Since Facebook contacts cannot be exported from the device, the appearance of integration created a false sense of data portability. Facebook contact data will continue to appear within the Facebook app. Like all developers on Android, Facebook is free to use the Android contacts API to truly integrate contacts on the device, which would allow users to have more control over their data. We are removing the special-case handling of Facebook contacts on Nexus S and future lead devices. We continue to believe that reciprocity (the expectation that if information can be imported into a service it should be able to be exported) is an important step toward creating a world of true data liberation — and encourage other websites and app developers to allow users to export their contacts as well.”
They only stopped this feature on the Nexus line of phones and the reason Facebook sync still doesn't work is because Facebook has not made the necessary change yet that Twitter and the like have. Google however doesn't stop other OEMs from allowing Facebook to sync contacts though - I wish they would to light the fire under their ***** so I could get my contact photos back, but what can you do? They hate each other right now.
kristovaher said:
Wrong.
Google does not develop Facebook app. Facebook does.
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I think Google disabled Facebook sync over privacy issues. It sucks.
What's the point of the People's Hub then?
qreffie said:
That's not entirely true. Facebook sync used to work with all Nexus devices but Google themselves pulled the sync due to them not allowing contacts to also be exported to Android devices. From Google:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/22/google-android-facebook-contacts/
“We believe it is very important that users are able to control their data. So in the over-the-air update for Nexus S, we have a small change to how Facebook contacts appear on the device. For Nexus S users who downloaded the Facebook app from Android Market, Facebook contacts will no longer appear to be integrated with the Android Contacts app. Since Facebook contacts cannot be exported from the device, the appearance of integration created a false sense of data portability. Facebook contact data will continue to appear within the Facebook app. Like all developers on Android, Facebook is free to use the Android contacts API to truly integrate contacts on the device, which would allow users to have more control over their data. We are removing the special-case handling of Facebook contacts on Nexus S and future lead devices. We continue to believe that reciprocity (the expectation that if information can be imported into a service it should be able to be exported) is an important step toward creating a world of true data liberation — and encourage other websites and app developers to allow users to export their contacts as well.”
They only stopped this feature on the Nexus line of phones and the reason Facebook sync still doesn't work is because Facebook has not made the necessary change yet that Twitter and the like have. Google however doesn't stop other OEMs from allowing Facebook to sync contacts though - I wish they would to light the fire under their ***** so I could get my contact photos back, but what can you do? They hate each other right now.
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Interesting. This makes People's Hub almost pointless for me.
Arcadia310 said:
Interesting. This makes People's Hub almost pointless for me.
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You could always start spamming Facebook to allow contact export so Google will let them sync again. I doubt they'll do it though.
The fact that any OEM can make this feature work again no matter what Google does kind of sucks when you only buy Nexus phones. I've gotten used to it not being there and I take a random candid picture of everyone I add to my contacts list now which works better in some situations since some of those FB profile pics don't give you any idea who the person actually is.
Arcadia310 said:
I think Google disabled Facebook sync over privacy issues. It sucks.
What's the point of the People's Hub then?
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No they did not. The way Facebook synced before was a hack, they did not use Android contacts API the way others do and the way it is meant to. Google removed the hack.
Facebook does not want to share contact information with Android so that user 'owns' their data. They can always build their app the right way. Zuckerberg & Co just don't want to.
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What's the point of the People's Hub then?
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because it is called the People application, not the Facebook application.
Not everyone uses Facebook, as apathetically ubiquitous it may appear to be. Some people use Twitter. Some people use Google+. Either way, the point of it is that it links with multiple social networks. The Facebook application does not work properly with Android 4.0, and even if/when it does it is unlikely that Facebook will be allowed API access to the People application due to the fact that they do not make it simple to get at your contacts data. It's your prerogative if you want to blame Google or Facebook there, but the point I'm making is that the People application obviously has a point, since Facebook isn't the be-all-and-end-all of social networking.
So if i understand this right.
Google wont let facebook info sync. Because facebook wont let it fully sync and be backed up to gmail etc?
And this would mean all your friends facebook info would then be your property and not theirs (facebooks).
GR36 said:
So if i understand this right.
Google wont let facebook info sync. Because facebook wont let it fully sync and be backed up to gmail etc?
And this would mean all your friends facebook info would then be your property and not theirs (facebooks).
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Google cannot stop anyone from syncing and using the API, this is open software. Facebook simply does not wish to implement that feature, since all contact data synced is accessible by other applications. The other thing is that Facebook does not wish to share friends email addresses.
It is entirely about Facebook not allowing user to do whatever they want with data shared with them by friends.
Basically, Facebook is afraid that if they allow people to export contact data, it will be very easy for everyone to just move all their friends to a new social network. Since Facebook only has one way of making money it's understandable that they want to make it as hard for us as possible to do that.
From Google's point of view, it's very exploitative of Facebook to expect to get special treatment on Android phones even though they refuse to play ball with Google, hence why their special privilege has now been removed.
Whose ever fault you think this is, it's us consumers who are made to suffer. -.-
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kristovaher said:
Wrong.
Google does not develop Facebook app. Facebook does.
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That's not what I was implying at all.
GR36 said:
So if i understand this right.
Google wont let facebook info sync. Because facebook wont let it fully sync and be backed up to gmail etc?
And this would mean all your friends facebook info would then be your property and not theirs (facebooks).
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Not backed up to GMail but backed up to the phone. If you delete your FB account and I only had you as a FB contact then you would completely disappear from my contact list, or if something happened and FB went down for a few hours or a few days I wouldn't be able to contact anyone who was synced only through FB. Most people only join existing contacts so they only suffer from not having the photo and status updates synced, but not allowing export could be much more problematic. It's not that it's your property, it's information you have access to that you have been given approval by those you have friended to have therefore you could just use what FB gives you and manually enter the contact yourself if you wanted to. Google is basically saying if that's the case you should be given the option to automatically export that entire list to your phone instead of having to manually enter all the information that FB is supplying you with.
This frustrates me also.. ever since they updted my nexus s and removed it. Its the only thing i will miss from htc sense. I know use contapps to sync facebook and its associatd contact photos
Has anyone tried friendcaster? I know it has some syncing options.
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[Q] Can't add Facebook to the list of accounts

No problem with linkedin and others. But when I try to add Facebook, I'm kicked back to the list of accounts.
Tried to reinstall facebooks, tried to clear the FB data ad cache. Even was not possible to add FB account after installing a stock 4.0.4 ROM from google (after full phone erase).
Google and FB are not friends anymore?
Facebook's Fault
Facebook never made or modified an ICS version for there app. Consequently you cannot add account and phone will not sync. There are numerous fix solutions with root. My Gnex is not rooted so I simply use an app called SyncMyPix in Play Store. This app will at least sync you photos for contact purposes. Facebook just need to optimize for ICS and things will work better!
The issue is actually Facebook not using the correct API for contact sync and hasn't moved on the issue for over a year: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/22/google-disables-contact-sync-in-facebook-for-android-only-nexus/
If you want a deeper integration on stock android like status updates in you "people" app you can get something like HaxSync (don't know if there is a better or free solution).

Calendar Manager for Android 4+

Hi, I wrote "Calendar Manager" to create new offline calendars on my device (Samsung i9000). Since custom ROMs like AOKP or CM don't ship with the "local/phone/offline" calendar, known from Samsung devices. Its free, no demo, no ads.
For anybody who wants their appointments or tasks safe on their's device, just download the apk, install (remember to allow 3rd party apps in your device settings), and create as many calendars as you wish.
The offline/local calendars integrates into the standard calendar module of Android, so you can use them with any calendar application, like the stock calendar viewer.
You can sync the calendar for example with MyPhoneExplorer to Outlook, Thunderbird/Lightning and other programs. But it will never be copied into the cloud.
Have fun with it. (Attached)
More info on www . zoks . net / solutions / calendar-manager
voidyrium said:
Hi, I wrote "Calendar Manager" to create new offline calendars on my device (Samsung i9000). Since custom ROMs like AOKP or CM don't ship with the "local/phone/offline" calendar, known from Samsung devices. Its free, no demo, no ads.
For anybody who wants their appointments, task safe on their's device, just download the apk, install (remember to allow 3rd party apps in your device settings), and create as many calendars as you wish.
The offline/local calendars integrates into the standard calendar module of Android, so you can use them with any calendar application, like the stock calendar viewer.
You can sync the calendar for example with MyPhoneExplorer to Outlook, Thunderbird/Lightning and other programs. But it will never be copied into the cloud.
Have fun with it. (Attached)
More info on www . zoks . net / solutions / calendar-manager
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thanks for sharing....friend....:laugh:
Nice! I will try it!
very nice, thanks alot:silly:
BTW, If some rom cooks reads this, maybe you are interested into integrating this lightweight app
Thanks a lot. You are my hero. After whole afternoon of google-searching you just offered simple solution to my problem
Yet a little suggestion - would it be possible to make the same thing for contact DB (like MyAccount app)?
palver said:
Thanks a lot. You are my hero. After whole afternoon of google-searching you just offered simple solution to my problem
Yet a little suggestion - would it be possible to make the same thing for contact DB (like MyAccount app)?
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I was already doing some research on the Android contacts database. I have no clue why, but it works completely different than the calendar database and on top the documentation is very - lets say compact. Almost as if someone doesn't want you to create offline data storages...
Neverthelesse - will try to implement it in my (very little) spare time.
Good work
Good work. It seems to work on emulator(Do not have a device running android 4.1 yet) Wish this would work on devices running Froyo (or Gingerbread). This would effectively mean we can use offline calendar without ever using Google sync. Wonder why Google does not launch a calendar application by default. Really appreciate the efforts buddy.
In any case, it would be nice if we could import icalendar files directly into Google Calendar(this is obviously not related to your software). Google contacts allows you to import any VCF file directly into contact but icalendar does not seem to work.
whateverdude said:
Good work. It seems to work on emulator(Do not have a device running android 4.1 yet) Wish this would work on devices running Froyo (or Gingerbread). This would effectively mean we can use offline calendar without ever using Google sync. Wonder why Google does not launch a calendar application by default. Really appreciate the efforts buddy.
In any case, it would be nice if we could import icalendar files directly into Google Calendar(this is obviously not related to your software). Google contacts allows you to import any VCF file directly into contact but icalendar does not seem to work.
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It was written to run on the custom roms like CM or AOKP which are base on Android 4.x, ICS, JB but don't ship with the local calendar. Samsung stock roms have the local "phone calendar" but CM does not, and they don't want to integrate it because they feel it doesn't make sense to not backup all your data to google. Well, I feel it makes sense to have my appointments stored locally only, so when I flashed AOKP I had to come up with a simple solution to lock Google out from my data.
(By the way I noticed, that Google syncs data from their calendar storage even if you switch syncing off. Weird isn't it?)
voidyrium said:
It was written to run on the custom roms like CM or AOKP which are base on Android 4.x, ICS, JB but don't ship with the local calendar. Samsung stock roms have the local "phone calendar" but CM does not, and they don't want to integrate it because they feel it doesn't make sense to not backup all your data to google. Well, I feel it makes sense to have my appointments stored locally only, so when I flashed AOKP I had to come up with a simple solution to lock Google out from my data.
(By the way I noticed, that Google syncs data from their calendar storage even if you switch syncing off. Weird isn't it?)
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Really? Even if under settings you disable Sync feature it still syncs to Google Calendar is it?
I am surprised because ultimately I was going to use your app to get the Calendar DB started(if and when I get the latest Android phone running 4 or later) and sync stuff back and forth from the phone using MyPhoneExplorer. I do not want them synced anywhere. If an old Palm or for the matter the dated Windows Mobile can do it, I cannot fathom Google's reason for disallowing this feature.
Does anyone know if something similar is available fro pre ICS ROMs?
FYI, the people from MyPhoneExplorer may include offline calendar creation capabilities in their App in some future version. They intend to make it work on older systems, too.
The app is not working in my Nexus 4.
1 Installed the app
2 Disabled google calendar and calendar storage
3 Tried creating a new calendar in CM, app crashed
Is this happening because nexus doesnt have a inbuilt offline calendar? (as mentioned in the OP)
life58 said:
The app is not working in my Nexus 4.
1 Installed the app
2 Disabled google calendar and calendar storage
3 Tried creating a new calendar in CM, app crashed
Is this happening because nexus doesnt have a inbuilt offline calendar? (as mentioned in the OP)
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Hi, thanks for using my app and providing feedback.
I think the reason may be, that you disabled "calendar storage". This is an internal database in android, that holds all appointments from all calendars. So if it is disabled, no app can access any calendar. Google did really choose bad names for their apps and services. Here is my "Little Dictionary Of Confusing Google Identifiers and Explanations what they really mean" - that I wrote when figuring out what is NOT documented in the SDK (maybe intentionally, so that everybody just uses Google Calendar Sync...).
Google Calendar =
1) the google calendar web service
2) the google app that displays any calendar
3) the google calendar concept as a whole
Calendar Storage =
a relational database (guessing sqlite) that holds a table for all calendars and a table for all appointments. All calendars that want to use the Android calendar APIs and show the "system" calendars, must use it
Sync Provider =
a service in Android that syncs things from the phone to the cloud
Google Calendar Sync =
the sync provider service that moves appointments from Calendar Storage to Google Calendar (1) and vice versa
Local Calendar =
just a usual calendar in Calendar Storage. BUT it gets a a flag set, that it stays local. So none of all the Sync Providers has a chance to access that data.
Calendar Manager =
creates entry in calendars table in Calendar Storage with "local" bit set.
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Maybe that explains why you should reenable the Calendar Storage and I should integrate a small checke to provide an error message in my app
vastphoto said:
Does anyone know if something similar is available fro pre ICS ROMs?
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I just stumbled across CalendarSync which can create a local calendar in Gingerbread (and maybe older versions, too). I don't see any limitations in doing this through the "free" version on the dev's web page, and don't know or care what else it does. I intend to use the local calendar with MyPhoneExplorer.
voidyrium said:
Hi, thanks for using my app and providing feedback.
I think the reason may be, that you disabled "calendar storage". This is an internal database in android, that holds all appointments from all calendars. So if it is disabled, no app can access any calendar. Google did really choose bad names for their apps and services. Here is my "Little Dictionary Of Confusing Google Identifiers and Explanations what they really mean" - that I wrote when figuring out what is NOT documented in the SDK (maybe intentionally, so that everybody just uses Google Calendar Sync...).
Google Calendar =
1) the google calendar web service
2) the google app that displays any calendar
3) the google calendar concept as a whole
Calendar Storage =
a relational database (guessing sqlite) that holds a table for all calendars and a table for all appointments. All calendars that want to use the Android calendar APIs and show the "system" calendars, must use it
Sync Provider =
a service in Android that syncs things from the phone to the cloud
Google Calendar Sync =
the sync provider service that moves appointments from Calendar Storage to Google Calendar (1) and vice versa
Local Calendar =
just a usual calendar in Calendar Storage. BUT it gets a a flag set, that it stays local. So none of all the Sync Providers has a chance to access that data.
Calendar Manager =
creates entry in calendars table in Calendar Storage with "local" bit set.
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Maybe that explains why you should reenable the Calendar Storage and I should integrate a small checke to provide an error message in my app
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I am a newB to android and smart phones. I enabled both calendar and calendar storage, and then tried your app to create an offline calendar, it did work perfectly fine. I have selected only the local calendar that i had created with your app to be 'calendar to display' options in the default calendar. Sorry to have bothered you with my lack of experience and knowledge. And thanks for your long and patient reply
Just a short update: I did some more programming and investigation regarding Google's spontaneous synchronizations. I can confirm that you pull the plug by disabling "Google Calendar Synchronization" and "Google Contacts Synchronization" services.
Niiiiiiiiiiiiceeeee
voidyrium said:
Hi, I wrote "Calendar Manager" to create new offline calendars on my device (Samsung i9000). Since custom ROMs like AOKP or CM don't ship with the "local/phone/offline" calendar, known from Samsung devices.
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What about an offline contact app as well? You write on your homepage "The problem doesn’t arise when it comes to contacts management, since Android ships with a built-in local contacts account that you can use. On most devices it is simply called “Phone” and co-exists with the Google-account-contacts.".
I've just checked a an AOSP ROM (Slim Bean for the Galaxy S2). There is no option to add a phone account, just one or more google accounts. So, I'm not able to use local contacts.
If you could develop a similar contact storage, this would be awesome!
Thank you.
Hi
Thank you for this! Been bugging me for a solution for like 2 days already.
Thank you!
In any way, can we backup this calendar offline (save to sd card) and then after flashing a new rom restore it from the sd card?
Good work mate!
Thanks

[Q] New Rom / missing features of basic apps

Hi!
I just installed the KITKANG rom (cf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549776) and a the first glance, it is pretty nice. But then I noticed a few things I really dislike such as
- The Web Browser does not reformat text (to make it fitting on the screen) if you zoom in manually by gesture. The browser I had on my previous image (caynogenmod 7) did this. And I don't want to miss that feature anymore.
- The contacts application seems to work by syncing contacts tothe Google cloud, only. My old contacts app had the choice to store contacts locally on the phone without Google sync.
I have no idea how to get this missing features back, again. Any comments / pointers?
I.
- Install another browser that has this feature
- The newer 'people' app may not have the option to store locally, but why do you want this? The whole point of an Android phone is to sync with your Google account.
It is dangerous to only store your contacts on the phone, because if you ever lose the phone, you lose all your contacts.
If you sync your contacts to your Google account and you lose your phone, your contacts are still safe :good:
eddiehk6 said:
- Install another browser that has this feature
- The newer 'people' app may not have the option to store locally, but why do you want this? The whole point of an Android phone is to sync with your Google account.
It is dangerous to only store your contacts on the phone, because if you ever lose the phone, you lose all your contacts.
If you sync your contacts to your Google account and you lose your phone, your contacts are still safe :good:
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@ browser issue: I meanwhile learned that the issue cause by a change of the the rendering engine in Android to WebView. So, almost all browsers are affected by this. (For details, google "Text Reflow Removed From WebViews In KitKat, Probably Not Coming Back"). Opera is an exception, because it comes alone with its own machinery. However, I tried Opera and is is slow on my HTC Desire. As many, many other people complaining, I cannot understand why the Android development folks dropped such a fundamental feature. The Android Browser of Kitkat tends to be unusable now! And I consider a smartphone without a proper browser as unusable as well. Which at the end might prevent me from buying another Android smartphone...
@ contacts: I totally disagree. Well, yes, from Googles perspective, your statement might be true. But for the user, Android is at first just an operating system to run your smartphone. Think about why Google wants your data...! - I want to *own* my data, so I don't want to use cloud services. Strange that you think syncing of data is equivalent to syncing to Google! Of course I sync all my data. To my own PC. If I'd loose my phone, I won't loose my data, just re-install it to my new phone from my PC.
It is nice that Google offers syncing. But enforcing to sync *is* evil...
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@ browser issue: I meanwhile learned that the issue cause by a change of the the rendering engine in Android to WebView. So, almost all browsers are affected by this. (For details, google "Text Reflow Removed From WebViews In KitKat, Probably Not Coming Back"). Opera is an exception, because it comes alone with its own machinery. However, I tried Opera and is is slow on my HTC Desire. As many, many other people complaining, I cannot understand why the Android development folks dropped such a fundamental feature. The Android Browser of Kitkat tends to be unusable now! And I consider a smartphone without a proper browser as unusable as well. Which at the end might prevent me from buying another Android smartphone...
@ contacts: I totally disagree. Well, yes, from Googles perspective, your statement might be true. But for the user, Android is at first just an operating system to run your smartphone. Think about why Google wants your data...! - I want to *own* my data, so I don't want to use cloud services. Strange that you think syncing of data is equivalent to syncing to Google! Of course I sync all my data. To my own PC. If I'd loose my phone, I won't loose my data, just re-install it to my new phone from my PC.
It is nice that Google offers syncing. But enforcing to sync *is* evil...
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I can see this descending quickly into a rather philosophical debate, but on the basis of your reasoning I wonder whether an Android smartphone is suitable for your needs in the first place. I didn't know your stance on personal data from your first post.
I agree with the text reflow browser, a really useful feature. Opera has it like you found out, though the Desire is just an old phone now which struggles to run it. Plenty of newer Android devices will run it just fine. The depth of the Play Store is such that you'll almost certainly find an alternative suitable for your requirements, so perhaps test and consider that for future smartphone purchases.
As for syncing with cloud services, it comes down to user trust and needs I guess. You're right you don't have to use Google, but an Android smartphone really does work best if you use their services.
No, I don't think that syncing of all my data is equivalent to syncing to Google, I use other other accounts too and don't sync everything. In my opinion I think it's possible to find a reasonable middle ground between paranoid tin hat and being ignorant about all personal data. For me, I disable all location tracking stuff and usage stats for any apps (not just Google ones), as I don't need them and feel uncomfortable sending this data. But I do sync other google services like Gmail / contacts because I find they work and are convenient for me. You believe it's evil, I believe it's useful and convenient, just a difference of opinion.
For your workaround, if you don't want to sync contacts, you could disable contact sync within the settings. Would be equivalent to local storage. Or install a different contacts app to manage and store contacts locally.
To avoid this philosophical debate, I'll try give a short answer.
I am using Android for about 5 years now. Without using Google cloud services. And have been a happy Android user. Sounds quite funny to me if someone wonders if Android would be the right thing for me.
Using cloud services is not really a matter of trust. I.e. I am not afraid that Google looks into single items and makes use out of it. But if you have heard about "big data", you can imagine what the result can be when all the data of some many people gets available for ... things you cannot even imagine..
I tried to add a contact with Google sync switched off. It just don't work. The app hangs...
inmado said:
To avoid this philosophical debate, I'll try give a short answer.
I am using Android for about 5 years now. Without using Google cloud services. And have been a happy Android user. Sounds quite funny to me if someone wonders if Android would be the right thing for me.
Using cloud services is not really a matter of trust. I.e. I am not afraid that Google looks into single items and makes use out of it. But if you have heard about "big data", you can imagine what the result can be when all the data of some many people gets available for ... things you cannot even imagine..
I tried to add a contact with Google sync switched off. It just don't work. The app hangs...
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You're revealing more about your preferences and Android experience to date with each post...it's not just me wondering whether Android is right for you, in your second post you said so yourself
Anyway each to their own.
Have you tried installing a completely separate contacts/dialer application? You could sideload or use a different app store to find one. A few I know of:
- Contacts+
- Ex dialer
- RocketDial
- Go contacts ex
I'm certain at least one of them will be able to create phone contacts only.

Can't get Google contacts?

Don't know what I'm doing wrong, got Gmail, play store ,and all Google apps and they sync. When I downloaded Google contacts it tells me to sign in , when I try to it says already signed in but when I go to Google app everything shows as synced but there isn't even a contact icon showing up so what did I do wrong. Please help the mate 20x is awesome just can't get my Google contacts on.
Sorry, I can't help but can you tell me if you have the China or the International version?
xxfirerican said:
Don't know what I'm doing wrong, got Gmail, play store ,and all Google apps and they sync. When I downloaded Google contacts it tells me to sign in , when I try to it says already signed in but when I go to Google app everything shows as synced but there isn't even a contact icon showing up so what did I do wrong. Please help the mate 20x is awesome just can't get my Google contacts on.
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Google contact sync is already baked in the rom. You probably need to do it all over again since the framework and sync adaptor probably got messed up.
If you have the china version,
factory reset the phone,
go into app gallery,
change country to China,
Search for Google Play Store
Google Play store will have an Update status, click it
After updated, click open and the usual setup will start
After that, you should have contact already synced.
Worked thanks this phone rocks now!!!
Glad that it worked!
So is it the Cina version? if yes, are you facing any problems because of that?
xxfirerican said:
Worked thanks this phone rocks now!!!
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Wicked! :highfive:
Jwan said:
Glad that it worked!
So is it the Cina version? if yes, are you facing any problems because of that?
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No once i got google on it the chinese version is fine. Tons of bloatware but u can delete all of it. Doesnt allow a different app launcher from what i can tell but i just dragged and dropped all my apps so they were in order. Battery is insane
xxfirerican said:
No once i got google on it the chinese version is fine. Tons of bloatware but u can delete all of it. Doesnt allow a different app launcher from what i can tell but i just dragged and dropped all my apps so they were in order. Battery is insane
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Perhaps try Twisted Home Manager app, some people have said that it could work.
xxfirerican said:
Don't know what I'm doing wrong, got Gmail, play store ,and all Google apps and they sync. When I downloaded Google contacts it tells me to sign in , when I try to it says already signed in but when I go to Google app everything shows as synced but there isn't even a contact icon showing up so what did I do wrong. Please help the mate 20x is awesome just can't get my Google contacts on.
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No need to factory reset. All I did was install the Google Contact Sync v 9 from apkmirror then reisntalled the Contacts app... and voila!... it had the option to choose an account from the hamburger menu.
ohthree said:
No need to factory reset. All I did was install the Google Contact Sync v 9 from apkmirror then reisntalled the Contacts app... and voila!... it had the option to choose an account from the hamburger menu.
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I did this and it worked perfectly without resetting anything!
Found an easy solution at 4pda to enable contact sync on Chinese Mate20x, without resetting your phone:
1) uninstall Play Store
2) download Play Store from apkmirror
3) install
4) sync will work right away
Hope this helps someone

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