Greetings All!
As stated in the title, I've a U.S. Cricket branded, (AT&T Variant) Moto One 5g. I'm very close to reaching the unlock deadline set by Cricket. I was wondering if I could then switch to Straight Talk without any issues? The Moto website states that Straight Talk is 'not supported' for this particular model. Does this mean that I shouldn't even bother? New here and trying to learn. Thank you in advance for your advice/suggestions!!
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Before purchasing my Moto Z Play I searched google to see if anyone has been able to run Straight Talk on it. I found people who have confirmed that they are running straight talk with no issues other the VOLTE not working. I don't even know what that is so I likely won't miss that.
Fast forward a week or so. My wife and I both bought UNLOCKED Moto Z Play phones from Bestbuy and they delivered yesterday. I bought a Straight Talk BYOP sim card kit. I started activation on Straight Talk's website and followed the instructions to a T and the following message was displayed.
"Unfortunately, your device will not work with our Bring-Your-Own-Device Program.
The good news is that Straight Talk has all the best devices from all the brands you love. Find the best one for you online or at Wal-Mart."
So how are other people getting this combination to work together? I chatted with a straight talk rep who said it's because the phone is not unlocked.
I took a trip to the local Verizon store and they said "yes it is locked and can't be unlocked" and that "no Verizon phone can ever be unlocked". BS I know.
So what do I do next?
Straight Talk can be either CDMA or GSM. A Verizon phone is CDMA but can do either (no LTE on GSM I think), but a GSM phone won't work on CDMA. If you bought an unlocked Moto Z Play, that will probably be a GSM phone, so make sure you have a Straight Talk GSM activation kit and not a CDMA one.
gmkelly001 said:
Straight Talk can be either CDMA or GSM. A Verizon phone is CDMA but can do either (no LTE on GSM I think), but a GSM phone won't work on CDMA. If you bought an unlocked Moto Z Play, that will probably be a GSM phone, so make sure you have a Straight Talk GSM activation kit and not a CDMA one.
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The kit that I bought comes with both nano CDMA and nano GSM, plus adapters for different sizes.
There's one compatible with AT&T
one with T-Mobile
and one with "used Verizon LTE phone"
I used the sim for Verizon because I thought I had to with this phone. Do I not?
83HatchGTI said:
The kit that I bought comes with both nano CDMA and nano GSM, plus adapters for different sizes.
There's one compatible with AT&T
one with T-Mobile
and one with "used Verizon LTE phone"
I used the sim for Verizon because I thought I had to with this phone. Do I not?
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If this is the Moto Z Play you bought
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorol...e-unlocked-lunar-grey/5601604.p?skuId=5601604
use the GSM SIM.
If you bought Moto Z Play Droid
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/verizon...hone-black-lunar-gray/5624229.p?skuId=5624229
use the CDMA SIM.
gmkelly001 said:
If this is the Moto Z Play you bought
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorol...e-unlocked-lunar-grey/5601604.p?skuId=5601604
use the GSM SIM.
If you bought Moto Z Play Droid
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/verizon...hone-black-lunar-gray/5624229.p?skuId=5624229
use the CDMA SIM.
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I got the first one that you said works with a GSM sim. So i should use the ATT sim and not the verizon one. Explains a lot. lol
Better ask in a Moto Z Play subforum.
I fixed this. I just had to use the ATT sim card in the kit and then activate it.
Anyone know if the Butterfly 3 will work with MetroPCS in the US? Over on another forum I was told that a phone labeled "International Version" on Amazon will work in the US as long as the frequencies match up with the carrier's. Is this true?
Thanks.
sorry for the long reply but you will only 2g speeds, I'm currently looking into activating the possible dormant radios on mine, will share results if successful right now mine is more M9 than butterfly
Hello. I have a question about quality of service and Z play. I live in the USA and want a modernish phone with an unlocked bootloader. Doesn't seem too much to ask right? I have to buy the phone... Should be able to do what I want with it.... Right?
Will a sprint Z play work?
in the US that topic is very complicated. There are variants at least for sprint and verizon. Then there is an unlocked GSM version which supports bands from all major carriers, but not all of them. Then there are features like VoLTE that will only work e.g. with a Verizon variant with a Verizon SIM. So which variant is for you depends on which carrier you want to use and what special functions the carrier variants have. So a sprint Z Play will work if Sprint has a good coverage at your place. There is a thread at motorolas forum you might want to read to, there are some differences explained by a moderator:
here, starting from the 10th post.
Hello People, i have a brand new US Cellular without contract, Moto Z2 force that supossed to be unlocked. But Motorola says its a carrier specific phone and Us Cellular says, its not a world phone. My question is, is there really no chance to use a SIM Card from another carrier? Anyone else with the same phone and carrier that succeeded switching carrier? Changing ROM, unlocking bootloader, or something. There must be a way!
I am using a US Cellular phone in UAE and have no problems. You can check the specifications in the motorola site as different carriers have different network bands.
What does UAE means exactly? Sorry my ignorance. How did you unlock ir? I want to use GSM and LTE bands 4, 7 and 21.
jhttr1z said:
I am using a US Cellular phone in UAE and have no problems. You can check the specifications in the motorola site as different carriers have different network bands.
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Hello. Is your phone a Moto z2 force? How did you unlock it?
It is a z2 force. It was unlocked when I got it. USC should unlock it for you
maxiordoqui said:
Hello. Is your phone a Moto z2 force? How did you unlock it?
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All Motorola phones from USC are Sim unlocked so just throw the Sim in and all good to go
I know that the XT1952-4 is the unlocked version for CDMA and GSM and technically has all the bands for all the carriers.
I am seeing XT1952-1 & XT1952-2 listed as global/international models but can not find any definitive documentation detailing the differences between the 2.
I am going to be getting one of these for my wife. We use Cricket (AT&T) currently. If we were to switch, it would likely be another AT&T MVNO, but we wouldn't rule out T-Mobile (or their MVNOs). CDMA (Verizon/Sprint) likely wouldn't be considered, so I don't need to get the XT-1952-4 version. I can save about $30 going for the XT1952-1 or XT1952-2. The question is...which one? What are the differences? Single/dual sim? Bands?
Any clarity?
Thanks!
mn1968 said:
I know that the XT1952-4 is the unlocked version for CDMA and GSM and technically has all the bands for all the carriers.
I am seeing XT1952-1 & XT1952-2 listed as global/international models but can not find any definitive documentation detailing the differences between the 2.
I am going to be getting one of these for my wife. We use Cricket (AT&T) currently. If we were to switch, it would likely be another AT&T MVNO, but we wouldn't rule out T-Mobile (or their MVNOs). CDMA (Verizon/Sprint) likely wouldn't be considered, so I don't need to get the XT-1952-4 version. I can save about $30 going for the XT1952-1 or XT1952-2. The question is...which one? What are the differences? Single/dual sim? Bands?
Any clarity?
Thanks!
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You will definitely want to go with the US model (XT1952-4), and not any of the international models. The US model has the necessary compatibility for US carriers, while the international models will not have those bands (for example, the US model supports T-Mobile's new 600MHz signal, which is not present on the international models). Additionally, international models will not have many carrier-specific features, such as VoLTE support and RCS, that you will only get with the US model.
Thanks for the advice!
I've come across am XT1952-4 for a good price, however, it is advertised for Sprint only. How could this be if it is truly an XT1952-4? False ad or misinformed seller???
Thoughts?
mn1968 said:
I've come across am XT1952-4 for a good price, however, it is advertised for Sprint only. How could this be if it is truly an XT1952-4? False ad or misinformed seller???
Thoughts?
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If you are in the US purchase from a reputable retailer such as B&H that posts accurate info on phone models and capabilities while providing a solid return policy. Amazon, eBay, Walmart, etc are crap shoots...never really know what you're getting.
mn1968 said:
I've come across am XT1952-4 for a good price, however, it is advertised for Sprint only. How could this be if it is truly an XT1952-4? False ad or misinformed seller???
Thoughts?
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It's probably a model purchased from Sprint/a Sprint-related MVNO, and is locked to the Sprint network.
xtermmin said:
It's probably a model purchased from Sprint/a Sprint-related MVNO, and is locked to the Sprint network.
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That is correct. I own a Boost Mobile (Sprint subsidiary) xt1952-4 which is locked to the Sprint network out of the box. The Sprint variant xt1952-4 is supported for bootloader unlocking via Motorola's official unlocking portal.
Viva La Android said:
That is correct. I own a Boost Mobile (Sprint subsidiary) xt1952-4 which is locked to the Sprint network out of the box. The Sprint variant xt1952-4 is supported for bootloader unlocking via Motorola's official unlocking portal.
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Bootloader unlock is cool. But is it possible to sim unlock for other networks, or are there hoops to jump through?
mn1968 said:
Bootloader unlock is cool. But is it possible to sim unlock for other networks, or are there hoops to jump through?
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That's a great question. Traditionally, Sprint doesn't make it simple for its branded devices to gain network/SIM unlocking or full GSM support and operability. They resort to encryption embedded partitions to network lock their devices. For example, the Sprint compatible Moto E (2nd Gen) from 2015 has yet to be exploited for GSM support. But, the Moto E4 (xt1766) was recently exploited for GSM functionality (but only if the device was never upgraded beyond a certain firmware build). On the xt1952-4, I've yet to hear of anybody network unlocking it, but again I have not researched it much.
For anyone that's interested, as of today (12/6/19), eBay and direct from Motorola have the XT1952-4 fully unlocked (all network compatible model) on sale for $129. Don't know how long the sale will last.
The model you want is the XT-1952-4 PAE80008US. The QA section on BH Photo confirms that PAE80008US is the unlocked Retail US model
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1455105-REG/moto_pae80008us_g7_play_32gb_smartphone.html/qa