I know this is gonna be quite a niche scenario but I'm at wit's end here and I wanted to see if there was anyone else out there who is/has struggled with this: I want to use a more power-delivery capable USB-C to USB-C cable to connect my S20+5G (Snapdragon, Verizon if relevant) to my computer (has to be the USB-C port, for various reasons) for the purposes of a USB-tethered internet connection. Has anyone found a cable other than the exact one that comes in the box that's able to consistently (i.e. no random disconnects, no "USB connect/disconnect chime") hold a connection? My entire internet connectivity (due to my location) is dependent on this so that's why the whole "no disconnect" thing is a big deal.
I've tried a multitude of cables that *should* be upgrades to the stock one off of Amazon (from decent manufacturers i.e. Amazon Basics, CableMatters etc.) but even if they deliver power more efficiently or transfer files faster or whatever, the main thing I need out of them is their tethering consistency, which they ALWAYS fall short of compared to the black "came with the phone" 3 ft. cable. These "higher material grade/better quality" cables will always inevitably kill my connection within anywhere from 10 seconds to 5 minutes of the start of connectivity.
The stock cable provides the type of connectivity I need, however I have no idea what the exact specs are for it but I'm fairly certain they aren't optimal; i.e. while my phone is tethered, the battery can't charge faster than the rate at which it's using power to do the tethering, so if I leave it connected long enough, the phone will die even though it's getting "charged" by the computer. For reference I believe the phone's USB-C port is USB 3.2 while my computer's port is USB 3.1 gen 2 and I don't think the stock cable reaches either of these standards. I've tried looking on the Samsung website but only find the exact cable I already have. Is there a better "official" version of this cable available somewhere? Or any non-official ones that are confirmed to hold the connection like the stock one?
Thanks in advance.
As an alternative, have you considered Ethernet tethering? It simplifies both the logistics of charging and maintaining a reliable data connection.
I would if I could but due to the aforementioned complete dependence on my cell data for our internet service, I have to use some...creative workarounds regarding hotspot data limits and unfortunately it can only be done through USB tethering
Interesting. How are you working around hotspot data limits? I'm curious about this, and wonder why you couldn't do something similar for Ethernet.
BTW, I use this with my phone:
Anker 543 USB-C Hub (6-in-1, Slim)
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It accepts USB PD input and when paired with a Samsung 45W charger and its stock cable, does a great job at quickly charging my phone even when using DeX over HDMI or powering USB hard disks, etc. And the Ethernet link is rock solid. For reference, I am running DUJ on a SM-G986B.
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I recently got a LG G3 and I want to use it the same way I did my RAZR (XT912). I had a OTG cable going into the data end of a y-splitter (USB data in with a USB power and a mini a in) with the power end going into either my computer or a USB wall charger and the mini end pulling from a USB hub. The result being I can use multiple USB inputs and it was able to charge the phone as well.
With my G3 I was able to get it to find both my HDD and my flash drive I have going into the hub as well as a PS3 controller plugged directly into the hub but it won't charge for some reason even with my USB devices unplugged from the hub. I did notice periodically my clock app will show a charging symbol next to it like its charging even though its losing power.
Is it possible that I need a stronger power signal going into the y-splitter for the G3, a new y-splitter, or a entirely different setup?
I really don't want to have to root it if I can help it but I'm thinking that might be why its not allowing power in. Then again I'm not a master with this sort of thing so I could be wrong.
Also if someone knows if there is someway to get Slimport to work with charging and OTG input that would be good to know although I don't think that is possible
***update***
So I dug out the ac adaptor for my USB hub, then hooked my G3 up to the hub like before with nothing else in it and left the screen off for a hour or so and it charged it like 2% even though it said it wasn't charging.
So it looks like it is working but there not enough power. Anyone have any idea on how to get more power going into it?
There are 3 parts to charging.
The power supply need to have a voltage in the acceptable range. Generally not an issue.
The power supply needs to be able to output enough amps. If it is too low, you will often see a slow charging message.
The cable to your phone must have a low enough resistance on the wires supplying power. If the resistance is too high you will get a voltage drop on the wires.
A power supply with higher amp output and/or a lower loss cable on the path from the power supply to the phone are likely the issue.
If your connection is OTG-splitter-another_cable-power_supply, both splitter and another_cable add resistance on the path to power_supply.
Hello out there.
Has anybody figured out a way to using a USB-C On the go (OTG) adapter for OTG functionality, and get power charging working simultaneously?
I have seen some people have had success using USB Y cables with micro-USB OTG, but haven't read anything confirming this works or is even required using USB-C compatible phones such as the Nexus 5x. I saw some Startech Y cables are available for purchase and some dodgy homebrew setups which I wouldn't attempt personally!
I have a USB-C OTG connector and a mains powered USB 3.1 hub. With this setup I can charge or use USB devices successfully on the phone, but it's one or the other, not at the same time. I'm forced to choose the USB charging option on the phone to switch between the two.
Any thoughts or experience on this using a Nexus 5x or similar? Cheers!
And sort of related - new Macbook can drive an external display over USB-C. Can Android / Nexus 5x?
I have also been looking for this - to allow always-on wired ethernet. Have not found a solution. My Nexus 5X will last for several days when the ethernet adapter is externally powered by a hub, however. The trick is to make sure nothing is running except essential comms and email when on standby. The new Marshmallow Developer mode allows this, by selecting most apps to be 'inactive' during standby and only allowing one app to run at a time. My phone runs for weeks at a time in standby when there are no ethernet connected and no WiFi/4G. Connecting wired ethernet cuts that to about 7 days, depending on email notification activity.
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I have also been looking for this - to allow always-on wired ethernet. Have not found a solution. My Nexus 5X will last for several days when the ethernet adapter is externally powered by a hub, however. The trick is to make sure nothing is running except essential comms and email when on standby. The new Marshmallow Developer mode allows this, by selecting most apps to be 'inactive' during standby and only allowing one app to run at a time. My phone runs for weeks at a time in standby when there are no ethernet connected and no WiFi/4G. Connecting wired ethernet cuts that to about 7 days, depending on email notification activity.
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I'm on the same boat, needing to have a Nexus 5X connected via Ethernet and powered.
So far I've tried:
- a USB Type C to USB female OTG cable
- a USB Type C to microUSB adaptor via a Dell powered USB OTG cable and a powered Acasis OTG USB Hub
but I got the same behaviour:
- USB OTG works with Ethernet and no power
- USB C to USB OTB HUB/powered OTG adaptor = power, but no OTG functionality
Is there a an updated USB C OTG pin out diagram available ?
(Similar to this one ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303902)
Good afternoon,
possibly should already be several topics with this topic, but I can not see if there is the possibility to be able to connect via cable to a gamepad tablet while an external battery .
Does someone can help me ?
Thank you
Game Pads have AFAIK no driver support in Android, except if they can emulate a mouse or keyboard. With a kb emulation or mouse and kb combined, it could well work, theoretically.
But no charging at the same time. Older Notes with their custom port could do such. USB3 offers not much relief, but USB-C could be perfect, with a dock. For the future.
Thanks for your response. so is there any dock that you think works?
Nope, that would have to be an "intelligent" dock with support by the Note's firmware, thus being an official Samsung peripheral. An Usb2 port can draw up to 0,5A during data transfer, but the Note does not charge when active and connected to a usb port, only in standby. Such an "intelligent dock" could charge at 2A while there's no data transfer and also provide MHL and more, but it never got invented...
OK thank you for the information. therefore anything done, even just buying another trablet .
Can you help me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/31151540831...b019ab9ca05&bu=44419278023&cp=1&sojTags=bu=bu
this cable will works?
The seller tell me that will works.
Thanks
It looks interesting. I don't know how it will handle the charging matter. Probably the current is only run thru the hub while the Note is in standby. But anything else won't work anyway with the Note. I also don't know whether it will deliver 0,5 or 2A and whether you have to remove all attached usb devices first. There must be some logic to switch between data transmission and charge mode and best such is controlled by the Note, but that would have been Samsungs job,to provide something like Microsoft's Continuum. But i'm not sure whether the Continuum adapter can charge the device. This is probably a huge weak point of that concept.
Seems that Samsung is the latest major smartphone vendor to offer proprietary charging over USB-C. You guys can check google engineer Benson's explanation:https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
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Seems that Samsung is the latest major smartphone vendor to offer proprietary charging over USB-C. You guys can check google engineer Benson's explanation:https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
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The article you're quoting singles out Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Do we know how USB C is implemented on Exynos Note7's?
From the article...
The difference is that Qualcomm's solution is very proprietary, and it takes over the D+/D- (usb data) lines for good, so that Type-A port can't be used to communicate to your PC at the same time you fast charge.
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I don't understand what's being lost according to the above quote. It implies you can't fast charge a Qualcomm device from a computer when using data but how many computers output enough AMPs when the USB ports are daisy chained? I think I've connected my year-old Note 5 to a PC via USB like four times. Most of the time I have it connected to my PC wirelessly via SideSync, Wi-Fi direct, or BT while it's sitting on a fast charger. Easier to grab it for calls and less wear on the USB port. With Apple's killing of the headphone jack we're heading faster and faster toward a wireless world. USB C's future and benefit is really supporting throughput for consumptive applications like VR.
Also, if anyone's looking for "pure" anything, Samsung should be low on their list. Samsung's known for putting their own imprint on standards and functions. Pure = Nexus.
Now A70 charger comes with both ends type-c , and as I am buying it soon I got some queries popping in !
1] Can I use my old standard Samsung fast charger to charge safely A70, and it wont cause any harm to the phone ?
2] Can we use Samsung Normal Slow chargers to charge A70 Safely too?
3] How to data transfer to my PC as my PC don't have type-c port. Can I use standard type-c to Standard USB cable and will it transfer data - Totally not sure ?
Can u guys tellme any other manufacturers phones that have type-c on both ends?
You should be able to use any regular USB-A (i.e. computers, most chargers, etc) to USB-C cable for data transfer and normal charging. Not sure whether you'd get 25W of fast charging that way though, I'd suspect more likely just regular Quick Charge 3.0 as long as your wall-charger supports that.
Having a USB-C to USB-C cable in the box seems odd to me too - perhaps there's something about the 25W charging system and the new charger that might cause issues if people tried to use a regular old cable rather than the supplied one, so they've stopped that being possible?
Andre
Thx Andre.
Need more opinions from folks !
Like andrew explained already it's simple, just use USB-A to USB-C cable.