Question Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G Heating Issue? - Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE

My Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G device is heating upto 46⁰+ in BGMI with Screen Recording and Max Brightness. Hows your?
Is this is normal?
please Help!

5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.

sirgoldi said:
5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable
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sirgoldi said:
5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?

Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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You said SD 780G with 5nm, why?

Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.

sirgoldi said:
It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.
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Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...

Abhishek5247 said:
Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...
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It is. Its name is throttling. It happens when chipset is getting too hot and processor/GPU has to slow down automatically as a safety measure to prevent it from damaging itself due to high temperature.
Mi 11 Lite 5G (NE) is pretty innovative design but also not the best choice for gamers as heat dissipation in those phones might be a bit affected because of less metal parts/radiators inside (to reduce its weight). Best would be to make a break or lower resolution/details. Or use fan blowing cold air into your phone in hands.

Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine

zgfg said:
It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.

Abhishek5247 said:
what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.
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Cannot 'guide' you. I didn't observe any heating (11 Lite 5G NE, MIUI 12.5.8) and I don't play any games (except solving 5x5x5x cube - but my brain lightly heats then, not the phone)
Consult the service.
If you are unhappy and if your return policy allows, return, pay the difference and take some Pro phone

Also do not expect any flagship with Snap 888 to be much cooler. Performance will be definitely higher but they tend to throttle too and heats like crazy if game is demanding.
Maybe Dimensity 1200 is better in terms of that and much cheaper.

According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.

tag68 said:
According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.
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How to find & resolve this bug?
Now the temperature is approx 38⁰ - 40⁰ during normal usage is this temperature is normal?

zgfg said:
It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.

Wakelock bug:
I'm not sure how the menu is in English.
Settings (Einstellungen)
Battery (Akku)
Scroll a bit down
Change that list to "Details"
If you see "Wake/Awoke" (Wach) is a full line without any interruption, reboot. This resolves it, at least for this time.
It occurred on my device once, it is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro. I would be astaunished if it could not happen on the 11 Lite 5G NE.

Abhishek5247 said:
And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.
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I really don't know, didn't observe (I don't use a lot my Lisa), hence frankly I'm also not interseted about - sorry (user like not, I'm not the Xiaomi helpdesk)
You can ask the service or exercise the return policy - if applicable (I'm not fully happy with my phone but I cannot return and take another unit or model)
Hopefully the answer from tag68 in the previous post can be much more useful for you

See the test on notebookcheck, there's a photo of a heatmap. Their measurement was the highest temperature when heavily used (benchmark) as 33.4 degree Celsius on the upper side, which is quite low compared to other models.

I have a doubt about what is measured during such tests, becaus my Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE overheats in direct sunlight like crazy. It cannot be used to take pictures, see anything on the screen.
I would not recommend this phone for a vacation trip where outdoor temperatures reach 30 or more degrees celsius. I got this overheating while downloading over LTE and after 4 minutes with outdoor temperature at 26 degrees, the phone simply shuts off GPS, BT, WiFi and LTE plus it shows the overheating warning on the display.
I had to turn my back to the sun to read the message, it is a very bad experience and I already regret that I fell for all these comments that the phone does not have any overheating issues. It has, big time and it is very sad that this is never mentioned in any reviews.
I did not buy a phone that must be carried in the dark and cannot be used in direct sunlight. This is simply a no go for me and I will return my phone at the next occasion for a refund.
Furthermore, I did the CPU throttling test and yes this phone with the SD 778 is throttling horribly, this is so bad. I returned my phone now for a refund.
Just as an example how other phones behave I have also tested the Mi 9 Lite, same throttling test, no issue at all the phone did not throttle a single bit whereas the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE did throttle after one minute from 100% to 80% and even further down. This phone is not fit for it's task, there are too many compromises made to the size and thickness of the phone.

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Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the Samsung Galaxy S10+ stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Even during intense benchmarking, it didn't heat up. You could feel a little warmth near the top of the back, but barely. No actual heat.
The phone heats up under these conditions: (Slow) wireless charging, downloading over LTE for an extended period, and playing games. For everything else it's comparable, yet, slightly warmer than my Note. The sensors report low 30s, whereas S10 is showing low 40s under the same apps.
My device feel kinda warm...no extensive gaming or something like that, after playing a bit and made antutu test,antutu reported that my cpu had 63 °C ..and 250k points.
If it feels warm do you have your brightness all the way up and max brightness? Also using it without a case? Think of how thin the device is and how good and bright the screen is heat is coming from screen you can feel when grabbing without case.
Getting hot while gaming
Playing Mobile Legends on High settings (Graphics - High, High Quality Display - On, High framerate mode - On, WQHD+) and the phone gets hot with just 1 game (approx. 15 minutes). Playing another game immediately results to less smooth gameplay. Not expecting this because we're supposed to have cooling
mackymariano said:
Playing Mobile Legends on High settings (Graphics - High, High Quality Display - On, High framerate mode - On, WQHD+) and the phone gets hot with just 1 game (approx. 15 minutes). Playing another game immediately results to less smooth gameplay. Not expecting this because we're supposed to have cooling
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Exynos?
Ace42 said:
Exynos?
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Yes. Forgot to add I have a ceramic unit which I know is better than glass when it comes to temperature.
It doesn't get warmer than 30°C no matter the game or benchmark, the vapor cooling seems to do the job, Exynos.
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Yes. Forgot to add I have a ceramic unit which I know is better than glass when it comes to temperature.
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https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-S10/Galaxy-10-ceramic-back-512-GB-overheating/m-p/473143 this article puts me at ease, so I think I'm good
mackymariano said:
Yes. Forgot to add I have a ceramic unit which I know is better than glass when it comes to temperature.
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No, have a quick trip to your kitchen and think about all the ceramic tools you have, and why they are made of ceramic.
Ceramic can be both used in thermal isolation and dissipation, 90% of the time it is used to isolate, since it has to be processed specifically to do the opposite.
That's the price you have to pay for having the ceramic version, the back fails to lose temperature just like the average coffee can, it's not a big deal unless you run intensive tasks every day.
I am running an Exynos 512GB Cermaic Black S10 Plus. Even without any usage and phone left in idle mode.. CPU Monitor is showing the temperature as 38-40 degrees. My friends 128GB Prism White is always around 32 degrees. Even my Exynos Note 9 is around the same ball park. So I'm little worried about my nee S10 Plus. Ideally is shouldn't touch 40 degrees that too in idle mode right?
Verizon Snapdragon 1TB Ceramic Black here
My average temp is 90°F (32°C)
The hottest I have gotten this phone to go is 108.5°F (42.5°C) when I transferred my old SD card contents directly onto my phone's internal storage. I transferred about 60GB of data that took about 15 minutes max using Samsung's T5 external SSD connected directly to my phone. So not only was I transferring a lot of files but I was also powering an external device via USB. Gotta say, I am impressed at how well it performed.
Outbreak444 said:
Verizon Snapdragon 1TB Ceramic Black here
My average temp is 90°F (32°C)
The hottest I have gotten this phone to go is 108.5°F (42.5°C) when I transferred my old SD card contents directly onto my phone's internal storage. I transferred about 60GB of data that took about 15 minutes max using Samsung's T5 external SSD connected directly to my phone. So not only was I transferring a lot of files but I was also powering an external device via USB. Gotta say, I am impressed at how well it performed.
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My S10+ runs hot occasionally. Seems both clusters get stuck at max when idling.
Could somebody post a temperature graph from gsam battery monitor?
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That dragon ain't no joke. Wonder how he fares in a larger shell, like the S10 5G or N10.
Runs warmer than the note 9 did.View attachment 4759955View attachment 4759956
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mackymariano said:
Playing Mobile Legends on High settings (Graphics - High, High Quality Display - On, High framerate mode - On, WQHD+) and the phone gets hot with just 1 game (approx. 15 minutes). Playing another game immediately results to less smooth gameplay. Not expecting this because we're supposed to have cooling
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I play the same game with the same settings but i dont experience heat like you do.
Exynos s10+ here
The latest update (ASD8) brings great improvements to thermals. Much better than previous update, and initial fw from March. Samsung resolved the issue where LTE caused an unusual spike on U1.

Question Heating up from basic usage

Is it normal for this device to heat up from basic usage (such as browsering and social media).
By heat I do not mean overheating but it does make the hand feel quite warm.
This worries me alot since I get annoyed by phones who get hot with basic usage.
Would this be because of the sd870 chip?
For me it does warm up a little bit during normal use but it's way better than my previous phones, idk maybe my standards of phone temperature is different than y'all. And if it was running a SD888 it would be even worse.
Jing Arjay87 said:
For me it does warm up a little bit during normal use but it's way better than my previous phones, idk maybe my standards of phone temperature is different than y'all. And if it was running a SD888 it would be even worse.
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I think mayb the issue is me comparing it to a snapdragon 730g
This was my concern also but in my case hearing was mostly during charging. I replaced the device and so far things are a tad bit better
TweaknFreak said:
This was my concern also but in my case hearing was mostly during charging. I replaced the device and so far things are a tad bit better
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Charging especially fast charging produce heat.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that requires a certain amount of heat to charge properly. Oddly Li charging is a mildly endothermic reaction but resistive elements in the cell produce much more heat than is absorbed.
♤Do not use phone while charging as it will skew the charging curve.
♤Listeners to music (no internet streaming) on bt with screen off is generally ok.
Best start temperature for fast charging is 82°F or higher (85-90°F seems optimum on my N10+).
Do not let battery temperature exceed about 101°F while charging, cool as needed.
♤I use a fan and/or a damp microfiber cloth to keep it cool, works well.
Li plating will permanently degrade your battery and can cause outright failures.
Never charge a Li polymer that is near freezing temperatures.
Charging below 72°F or in high temperatures (exact value unknown, some say >140°F but this may not apply to Li polymer) My Note 10+ will stop charging at about 102°F so hence the 100°F limit. In any case temperatures higher than 90°F aren't needed for fast/optimum charging and only shorten the lifespan of the battery.
EvilMegaDroid said:
Is it normal for this device to heat up from basic usage (such as browsering and social media).
By heat I do not mean overheating but it does make the hand feel quite warm.
This worries me alot since I get annoyed by phones who get hot with basic usage.
Would this be because of the sd870 chip?
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Nope, miui is chock full of bloatware and make these phone warm up even some basic task. Tried several custom room in our forum, no heat up at all
I think it has to do since its summer too, debloated through but it still gets warm using social if I'm outside or if its under the sun.
From my logic this has 100% to do with a higher end cpu since as I said my sister samsung a71 does not do that.
Mostly worried that the xiomi build quality is **** that's why I asked
EvilMegaDroid said:
I think it has to do since its summer too, debloated through but it still gets warm using social if I'm outside or if its under the sun.
From my logic this has 100% to do with a higher end cpu since as I said my sister samsung a71 does not do that.
Mostly worried that the xiomi build quality is **** that's why I asked
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Use manual brightness control. Try to avoid going over 50%... and don't use in direct sunlight. High screen brightness increases current drain/heat a noticeable amount.
You're on to something when it comes to brightness... Newer panels that are being used in the latest Chinese devices all have very high sustained brightness. Which is nice and all but no1 had considered how that will play in combination with the newest chips,
If you compare F2 and F3 the earlier model only had sustained brightness of 500cd/m2 whereas the newer model can sustain 900cd/m2 of brightness - that's a huge difference
Then what about chips? Both snapdragon 888 and 870 are dumpster fires ( Even the dimensity chips ) , while the performance gain is insane compared to last gen so is the heat output... And sadly even the gaming devices with cooling fans struggle to keep the chips from throttling. Take black magic 6 pro for a shameless example (snap 888), it reaches upwards of 55C on the phone body itself during benchmarking with no signs or intention for throttling down to save your hands- that itself should be illegal but no1 ****ing cares since how else are they gonna reach those benchmark numbers.... ( 54C can cause full thickness burns in a matter of 30 seconds or so )
I don't have poco f3 to check but from looking at stress tests on YouTube you can see that they are much more conservative when it comes to heat. It reaches only 42C during benchmarking then starts to throttle down and basically hovers around that temp 42C-44C.
The chips are already insanely good when it comes to performance but the cooling is pacing behind... So yeah it's pretty normal that your device is getting hot - so is every other device on the flagship market rn. Most you can do to solve that would be in this order > Get a peltier cooling device like blackshark fun cooler pro > Lower the brightness to what's usable for you and hope it's enough to somewhat delay the throttling > The last one would be messing with the phone itself like downclocking it or lowering the voltage. It's a cat and mouse game , the throttling will come eventually , the only way out I see would be the first option or the last one if you're capable enough to mess with that and are lucky enough to get a chip that undervolts nicely.
Cooling?
Simply use a damp microfiber cloth.

Question S21fe - Green glow

Hello, is the phone still having problems with the green screen in low brightness? As is the case with the s20 series?
adek89 said:
Hello, is the phone still having problems with the green screen in low brightness? As is the case with the s20 series?
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I did not encounter a problem like that (snap version).
KlemenC said:
I did not encounter a problem like that (snap version).
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and what does the issue of overheating look like? instagram, browser, yt?
adek89 said:
and what does the issue of overheating look like? instagram, browser, yt?
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no overheating problems...
It is true that i have debloated it, and have most apps on deep sleep (except mail and few other), so i limit background activity.
I also use "galaxy max hz" mod so i can force low refresh rate and batery saving on screen off.
Thank you very much. I'm thinking about s20fe and 21fe. However, when I watch yt and see what are the temperatures or the results on the battery, it rejects me a bit
I understand. I moved to s21 FE from upper mid range galaxy a8 (2018). I i would say that battery efficiency on s21 fe is a bit lacking. I am not a power user so with the old phone i needed to charge oproximately every 5 days. With this one optimised as best i could i reach 3 days, maybe 4. I know that it has bigger screen and faster refresh rate and those things impact battery life a lot, but i would say that snap 888 has an inefficient standby or the low power cores are still too power hungry for my taste...
Don't get me wrong i love the phone, and am happy that i switched. The main reason for me was getting an upper range camera sistem at a low as possible price, and i bought the phone through a samsung trade in program. Also in europe it is realy hard to get any galaxy phone with a snapdragon procesor...
Hope this helps you in deciding.

Themes / Apps / Mods [TEST MOD]Thermal-Throttling-Modifier[Pixel 6/Pro]

Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about what this MOD does before flashing it
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, don't point fingers at me if something goes wrong
*/
Ladies and gentlemen,
A small modification for you with great and HOT results.​
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the "first" threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
Keep in mind that SOC will throttle regardless of when it hits its own TjMax values so you don't need to worry about any "meltdown". lol
- Display won't switch to 60Hz anymore and neither will the maximal possible brightness be reduced as it is normally happening with stock throttling thresholds.
So far I'm using this on EvoX ROM but this should work basically on ANY ROM as the throttling is relying on the same file and as far as I managed to observe (amount of ROMs checked out) it's the same on those ROMs.
Pros:
- Throttling thresholds are drastically increased, meaning if you experienced any HIGH FPS drops during playing any "heavy" games, this will prevent that from happening to an extent and time.
- Any apps that rely on high processing power, will have more space and time to work without being affected by thermal throttling
Cons:
- Depending on your usage and what exactly you do on your phone, the device could get uncomfortably warm in your hands, and battery temperature will raise MORE than you got used to it since the SOC won't be throttled that fast as it does on the stock. Keep in mind that high battery temps are not healthy, and they will cause faster degradation. Degradation occurs anyways, the question is only how fast based on the temps the battery is being exposed to. Many OEMs allow such temps, so, Pixel 7 series with this mod isn't anything different compared to them.
- If you're a heavy "gamer" and play some games like Genshin, TOF, COD (at 120fps), etc... (you'll have a smoother experience (less FPS drops) based on slower/weaker throttling) but I recommend always using a Peltier cooler to keep that battery and the device as cool as possible (regardless if this phone or another).
Why did I create this mod?
I personally use an app called MotionCam Pro. It's basically a RAW video recording app that relies on HIGH processing power (it records RAW DNG frames) and it heats up the device pretty fast, well, Pixel 6/Pro hits the throttling threshold really fast and it's causing the recording to drop A LOT of frames to a point that the footage recorded is not "usable".
With this mod, I can now shoot RAW videos for longer periods with almost no dropped frames and under higher ambient temps. Yes, the phone warms up much more, but it does the JOB for me and that's all that matters to me anyway. I don't care if I'll need to replace my battery after 1 year instead of 2 years because I lost maybe 15-20% of the battery capacity (I upgrade my phones almost yearly).
Have fun frying eggs on your phone.
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​
Keep in mind that this is a TEST MOD because I don't own the device and can't test it myself.
Feedback is appreciated.
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JohnTheFarm3r said:
Keep in mind that this is a TEST MOD because I don't own the device and can't test it myself.
Feedback is appreciated.
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This module increased the performance of pixel 6 pro by 25 % in the same temperature. Previously within 1/2min cpu would get 150-165k GIPS but after flashing module performance is stable around 200-220k GIPS . But the X1 cores aren't still being utilized to their fullest . It's still being limited to 1.5 Ghz even thou it can reach 2.8 Ghz . It there a way to tweak the module to completely remove this throttling at such low temperatures ? Even the awful snapdragon 888 doesn't even begin throttling before 40 °C
Mahbubur Rahman Siam said:
This module increased the performance of pixel 6 pro by 25 % in the same temperature. Previously within 1/2min cpu would get 150-165k GIPS but after flashing module performance is stable around 200-220k GIPS . But the X1 cores aren't still being utilized to their fullest . It's still being limited to 1.5 Ghz even thou it can reach 2.8 Ghz . It there a way to tweak the module to completely remove this throttling at such low temperatures ? Even the awful snapdragon 888 doesn't even begin throttling before 40 °C
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No, because the prime core is probably hitting the TJMax, hence it's throttling down. AFAIK, TjMax on Tensor G1 is set at 90c.
The cooling design inside the Pixel devices can't handle too much heat (thermal capacity is weak) so it's normal behavior for the CPU to scale down the frequencies based on the temperature limit on the CPU.
Also, don't mix the battery temps with the CPU temps. CPU reaches temperatures up to 90c on G1.
Also, even the 888 throttles when it hits the TJMax. That's completely normal throttling behavior to protect the chip from cooking up.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
No, because the prime core is probably hitting the TJMax, hence it's throttling down. AFAIK, TjMax on Tensor G1 is set at 90c.
The cooling design inside the Pixel devices can't handle too much heat, so it's normal behavior for the CPU to scale down the frequencies based on the temperature limit on the CPU.
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Well that's just bad design on Google's part can't do anything about that . Still this is huge improvement from the dog **** performance previously. Even throttled it's like a snap 865 . Unthrottled it would be like a snap 888
work well on my pixel 6 Pro ,March update
Mahbubur Rahman Siam said:
Well that's just bad design on Google's part can't do anything about that . Still this is huge improvement from the dog **** performance previously. Even throttled it's like a snap 865 . Unthrottled it would be like a snap 888
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Do you have the unthrottled magisk module,I want give it a try
Juuuuune said:
work well on my pixel 6 Pro ,March update
Do you have the unthrottled magisk module,I want give it a try
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You need a cooler for that . Also cpu will thermal throttle regardless of outside temperature as soon as it hits internal TJ max value . Your best bet is to use a aluminum foil inside your case to help with heat dissipation
So far so good. Will give feedback if there's anything weird.
All the work so far is normal, thank you very much for your work! I shared it with some of my friends (China, also using pixel6pro). Strangely, some of their mobile phones will be stuck in the start-up loop (boot Google Logo loading interface) after flashing into this mod. As far as I know, this problem has nothing to do with the system version.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
Code:
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed
* Please do some research if you have any concerns about what this MOD does before flashing it
* YOU are choosing to make these modifications, don't point fingers at me if something goes wrong
*/
Ladies and gentlemen,
A small modification for you with great and HOT results.​
Changes I made to the thermal configuration:
-The default Virtual-SKIN-based throttling threshold was starting at 39 Celsius, that was removed and the "first" threshold value is now 55 Celsius (at 55C it will HARD throttle, throttling is not completely eliminated here on purpose and at 55C it will behave the same as the default throttling mechanism at that temperature).
Keep in mind that SOC will throttle regardless of when it hits its own TjMax values so you don't need to worry about any "meltdown". lol
- Display won't switch to 60Hz anymore and neither will the maximal possible brightness be reduced as it is normally happening with stock throttling thresholds.
So far I'm using this on EvoX ROM but this should work basically on ANY ROM as the throttling is relying on the same file and as far as I managed to observe (amount of ROMs checked out) it's the same on those ROMs.
Pros:
- Throttling thresholds are drastically increased, meaning if you experienced any HIGH FPS drops during playing any "heavy" games, this will prevent that from happening to an extent and time.
- Any apps that rely on high processing power, will have more space and time to work without being affected by thermal throttling
Cons:
- Depending on your usage and what exactly you do on your phone, the device could get uncomfortably warm in your hands, and battery temperature will raise MORE than you got used to it since the SOC won't be throttled that fast as it does on the stock. Keep in mind that high battery temps are not healthy, and they will cause faster degradation. Degradation occurs anyways, the question is only how fast based on the temps the battery is being exposed to. Many OEMs allow such temps, so, Pixel 7 series with this mod isn't anything different compared to them.
- If you're a heavy "gamer" and play some games like Genshin, TOF, COD (at 120fps), etc... (you'll have a smoother experience (less FPS drops) based on slower/weaker throttling) but I recommend always using a Peltier cooler to keep that battery and the device as cool as possible (regardless if this phone or another).
Why did I create this mod?
I personally use an app called MotionCam Pro. It's basically a RAW video recording app that relies on HIGH processing power (it records RAW DNG frames) and it heats up the device pretty fast, well, Pixel 6/Pro hits the throttling threshold really fast and it's causing the recording to drop A LOT of frames to a point that the footage recorded is not "usable".
With this mod, I can now shoot RAW videos for longer periods with almost no dropped frames and under higher ambient temps. Yes, the phone warms up much more, but it does the JOB for me and that's all that matters to me anyway. I don't care if I'll need to replace my battery after 1 year instead of 2 years because I lost maybe 15-20% of the battery capacity (I upgrade my phones almost yearly).
Have fun frying eggs on your phone.
Installation
- Flash via Magisk
- Reboot your device
- Enjoy​
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This module has done wonders for the flagship experience of pixel 6 pro but after flashing this charging speed has gone total whacked . Normally pixel 6 pro would charge around 23W with screen turned off but after flashing this module the device charges around 9w max with screen turned off and with screen on it charges around 3w !!! Literally took 3.5 hours to charge with just music playing in background. I think it has someone to do with thermal threshold mismatch between charging and non-charging state . Changing the charging state thermal threshold to non charging thermal threshold should fix this behavior. I tried making my own module with this file but got bootloops . Can you a similar module for charging ?
Mahbubur Rahman Siam said:
This module has done wonders for the flagship experience of pixel 6 pro but after flashing this charging speed has gone total whacked . Normally pixel 6 pro would charge around 23W with screen turned off but after flashing this module the device charges around 9w max with screen turned off and with screen on it charges around 3w !!! Literally took 3.5 hours to charge with just music playing in background. I think it has someone to do with thermal threshold mismatch between charging and non-charging state . Changing the charging state thermal threshold to non charging thermal threshold should fix this behavior. I tried making my own module with this file but got bootloops . Can you a similar module for charging ?
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What cable/charger do you use?
I use a 100w rated Basesus C to C cable, with a 120w Basesus Power Supply, and my charge time is around 40 minutes from 30-40 percent with this mod installed.
I know SOME cables/chargers can be a littttttleeee bit touchy when it comes to power mods.
What is really annoying is the premature current limit. I use Xiaomi GaN-33W charger + CtoC cable/ Up to 6A cable. When the device is low temperature and low battery, the current of the rechargeable battery can reach 4.5A and the power reaches 20W +. However, once the temperature rises slightly(about 39℃?), or the battery reaches about 65+, everything will deteriorate, and the current will drop sharply, with less than 3A remaining, and only 2A when it reaches 80 At this time, the power is only about 10W. The worst thing is that once the battery is higher than 90, the charging current will hover at 1A or even lower. You know that my Xiaomi 11X (4500mAh / Up to 33w) which only need 47 minutes to charge from 0 to 100, a huge gap, right?Google do a bad work for their phone.
Gytole said:
What cable/charger do you use?
I use a 100w rated Basesus C to C cable, with a 120w Basesus Power Supply, and my charge time is around 40 minutes from 30-40 percent with this mod installed.
I know SOME cables/chargers can be a littttttleeee bit touchy when it comes to power mods.
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Gytole said:
What cable/charger do you use?
I use a 100w rated Basesus C to C cable, with a 120w Basesus Power Supply, and my charge time is around 40 minutes from 30-40 percent with this mod installed.
I know SOME cables/chargers can be a littttttleeee bit touchy when it comes to power mods.
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Stock google charger with stock cable .
I made some changes to thermal file to fix charging throttling as well . Now charging won't get throttled because of temperature. Phone charges at full speed regardless of temperature I also made TEST file to disable throttling related to TJmax . Let me know if there are any issues.
Mahbubur Rahman Siam said:
I made some changes to thermal file to fix charging throttling as well . Now charging won't get throttled because of temperature. Phone charges at full speed regardless of temperature I also made TEST file to disable throttling related to TJmax . Let me know if there are any issues.
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So I want to keep the temperature control instead of disabling it which one should I use?
Juuuuune said:
So I want to keep the temperature control instead of disabling it which one should I use?
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The one without the word "TEST"
TeeJae360 said:
The one without the word "TEST"
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Thanks
Mahbubur Rahman Siam said:
You need a cooler for that . Also cpu will thermal throttle regardless of outside temperature as soon as it hits internal TJ max value . Your best bet is to use a aluminum foil inside your case to help with heat dissipation
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would aluminium foil actually help?
Mahbubur Rahman Siam said:
I made some changes to thermal file to fix charging throttling as well . Now charging won't get throttled because of temperature. Phone charges at full speed regardless of temperature I also made TEST file to disable throttling related to TJmax . Let me know if there are any issues.
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Would love to have one where it throttles MORE to keep device cooler for those who don't want more heat, basically the opposite of what you already have

Question Oneplus 11 overheating / poor gaming performance

Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
Return it as defective and get another.
EtherealRemnant said:
Return it as defective and get another.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
verxolois said:
unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
EtherealRemnant said:
Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
verxolois said:
thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
EtherealRemnant said:
Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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I've heard that too on the 7900 but its the first time I heard about it on a mobile device, hence am wondering how gaming performance are faring for others with OP11.
verxolois said:
Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
ChrisFeiveel84 said:
80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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This is in LA, so around 50-70 F or 10-20C. CPU runs at fairly okay temperature around 30-40C for normal day to day use (texting, redditing...). It's just a stark contrast from my OP8T or S23U since I pretty much don't notice those phones heating up but with OP11 I can consistently feel it gets warm.
My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chamber is used to spread heat. It is not some magic material which makes heat disappear.
whoamanwtf said:
My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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verxolois said:
Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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The best solution i can give u is to buy a peltier cooler i.e Oneplus 18W freezing point, Oneplus 11 has a very good passive cooling and with a good peltier you wont have such issues
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thanks for the solution but dont think i do enough serious gaming on the phone to warrant a cooler. Just a bit disappointed and surprised at the overheating and throttling despite oneplus touting it having one of the better cooling systems out there. Since it happened on both OP11 I got my hands on, I'm going to attribute this to more of a software than hardware issue as other phones with same chipsets don't seem to have overheating problems.

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