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General Disappointment the Pixel 6

Well after being excited to get the Pixel 6 Pro with all the hype of best pixel phone in years, i have returned the phone after finding it disappointing. Probably the phone i have been most disappointed with ever, So i have gone back to my Huawei P30 Pro
main issues are battery life, after finding the phone struggling to get through a day on a charge, after googling and finding turning off the 5g and 120hz display improves battery life. WHAT the main features of the phone drain the battery too much, battery life on P30 is 2 days for me constantly (i know peoples usage will vary), but after Lumia phones and Huawei it was like going back to Iphone 3 days barely getting 24hrs on a charge.
also the UI is terrible, how is this an improvement the notification area with the huge tiles take up so much room that you have to scroll to the right to see most of the shortcuts etc. P30 is much more intuitive and fewer steps to do the same action
The Google search bar/ assistant and clock can't be moved or resized so much for customising android, none of these restrictions on P30
Colour theming what a joke to the point of being pointless couldn't pick the colour i wanted and the choice of 4 colour LOL, P30 has a huge colour theming section and is easy pick what colour you want and away to go
You will need a case for the phone it will literally slide off everything, i know a lot pf people fit cases but you wont have any choice with the Pixel 6 or it'll end up in broke
I would go as far to say EMUI 4 was better than android 12 on the Pixel 6, only good point was the camera

Only thing I'd agree with is that Huawei makes some of the best phones and I wish they were sold for US carriers. As for this phone, it's getting better every day for me. Of course there are some annoyances here and there but battery life isn't bad for me. I still have mine on 5g and 120hz and getting 8ish hour SOT with full day use. Mostly Twitter, Reddit and cryptocurrency apps and some YouTube music. The UI I feel takes some learning and adjusting to get used to.

nighthawk626 said:
Only thing I'd agree with is that Huawei makes some of the best phones and I wish they were sold for US carriers. As for this phone, it's getting better every day for me. Of course there are some annoyances here and there but battery life isn't bad for me. I still have mine on 5g and 120hz and getting 8ish hour SOT with full day use. Mostly Twitter, Reddit and cryptocurrency apps and some YouTube music. The UI I feel takes some learning and adjusting to get used to.
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Kinda hard to trust a device made literally by the espionage wing of a hostile foreign country...

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Kinda hard to trust a device made literally by the espionage wing of a hostile foreign country...
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Not saying I don't get that. I just really miss Huawei phones.

Podster16 said:
Well after being excited to get the Pixel 6 Pro with all the hype of best pixel phone in years, i have returned the phone after finding it disappointing. Probably the phone i have been most disappointed with ever, So i have gone back to my Huawei P30 Pro
main issues are battery life, after finding the phone struggling to get through a day on a charge, after googling and finding turning off the 5g and 120hz display improves battery life. WHAT the main features of the phone drain the battery too much, battery life on P30 is 2 days for me constantly (i know peoples usage will vary), but after Lumia phones and Huawei it was like going back to Iphone 3 days barely getting 24hrs on a charge.
also the UI is terrible, how is this an improvement the notification area with the huge tiles take up so much room that you have to scroll to the right to see most of the shortcuts etc. P30 is much more intuitive and fewer steps to do the same action
The Google search bar/ assistant and clock can't be moved or resized so much for customising android, none of these restrictions on P30
Colour theming what a joke to the point of being pointless couldn't pick the colour i wanted and the choice of 4 colour LOL, P30 has a huge colour theming section and is easy pick what colour you want and away to go
You will need a case for the phone it will literally slide off everything, i know a lot pf people fit cases but you wont have any choice with the Pixel 6 or it'll end up in broke
I would go as far to say EMUI 4 was better than android 12 on the Pixel 6, only good point was the camera
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You really should have waited a bit to try a pure aosp build. I found the google [bloat|spy]ware to be bad enough that I couldn't put my sim card in it because it was completely unusable. Running pure aosp built from source and its like a dream.
Under very heavy use since about 7am this morning (its now after 3), I'm still over 70% battery, including leaving 120hz enabled. Not 5g though, my carrier only has LTE for now.
Some of your complaints don't really matter. The quick settings pane for example is a feature of android 12, not the google build, so no matter who sells you the phone, you'll have that eventually anyway.

96carboard said:
Kinda hard to trust a device made literally by the espionage wing of a hostile foreign country...
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hostile wing of USA or China take your pick

nighthawk626 said:
Only thing I'd agree with is that Huawei makes some of the best phones and I wish they were sold for US carriers. As for this phone, it's getting better every day for me. Of course there are some annoyances here and there but battery life isn't bad for me. I still have mine on 5g and 120hz and getting 8ish hour SOT with full day use. Mostly Twitter, Reddit and cryptocurrency apps and some YouTube music. The UI I feel takes some learning and adjusting to get used to.
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i had no where near that battery time, fully charged at 9:00am out on the mtb for 6 hrs with pics on the way normal use after that by 8:00 pm 15%
The UI is just not as intuitive, take restricting apps working in the background pixel you have to go to each app individually, P30 the settings for all apps are on one page, just simpler

2021 has been a mediocre year at best for smartphones. Android 11 and 12 forced cpu cycle eating scooped storage sucks.
After the N20U Samsung released nothing I like and their last really great flagship is the N10+ running on Q.
2021, issues with variable rate displays, 5G and scoped storage galore. The usual Samsung Fold display delamination issues. For flagship SD card support you either got to use older Samsung flagships or go Chinese.
The Pixel Pro seems to numerous rude surprises. OK, maybe it's not horrible but not a flagship level device either... it's ok at best. It's user interface is subpar as usual with no substantial speed advantage to show for it. Why not just get an Apple rather than a Pixel at this rate?
I doubt even Samsung can modify Android 11/12 enough to make it user friendly; Pixel barely tried to fix their nightmare OS.
Small wonder Pixel as such a dismal market share... they earned it.

blackhawk said:
2021 has been a mediocre year at best for smartphones. Android 11 and 12 forced cpu cycle eating scooped storage sucks.
After the N20U Samsung released nothing I like and their last really great flagship is the N10+ running on Q.
2021, issues with variable rate displays, 5G and scoped storage galore. The usual Samsung Fold display delamination issues. For flagship SD card support you either got to use older Samsung flagships or go Chinese.
The Pixel Pro seems to numerous rude surprises. OK, maybe it's not horrible but not a flagship level device either... it's ok at best. It's user interface is subpar as usual with no substantial speed advantage to show for it. Why not just get an Apple rather than a Pixel at this rate?
I doubt even Samsung can modify Android 11/12 enough to make it user friendly; Pixel barely tried to fix their nightmare OS.
Small wonder Pixel as such a dismal market share... they earned it.
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Note 9 owner
Everyone knows the 10 lineup was literally a downgrade in all the ways literally a minor cpu bump and a 3rd camera.
You lost iris scanner, spo2 ,heart rate , headphone jack and sd card slot on certain models.
It was also the mark of samsung making like 4 3/4 different models of phone which had worse hard ware than previous versions unless you get the top top end.
For example the fact screens on the note10 itself are worse than 9.
It literally started the mark of samsung killing off the note line with the making it a glorified Samsung Galaxy with a pen in which case then note 20ultra is worse that the galaxy 20 ultra in a lot of ways.
It's not even ahead of software updates since the note 10 lite uses the same chipset as the s9/n9 so it's easily ported to them.
So yeah the fact you said that means you literally have no clue on the state of it.
Also you think Samsung will simplify it gl they literally need to make a new ui every year because they can't do it right it's improving but still , if you don't like stock android get different launcher.
At least we know we going to get software support for a long time and direct also support

Phone is Awesome! Best purchase ever!

blackhawk said:
2021 has been a mediocre year at best for smartphones. Android 11 and 12 forced cpu cycle eating scooped storage sucks.
After the N20U Samsung released nothing I like and their last really great flagship is the N10+ running on Q.
2021, issues with variable rate displays, 5G and scoped storage galore. The usual Samsung Fold display delamination issues. For flagship SD card support you either got to use older Samsung flagships or go Chinese.
The Pixel Pro seems to numerous rude surprises. OK, maybe it's not horrible but not a flagship level device either... it's ok at best. It's user interface is subpar as usual with no substantial speed advantage to show for it. Why not just get an Apple rather than a Pixel at this rate?
I doubt even Samsung can modify Android 11/12 enough to make it user friendly; Pixel barely tried to fix their nightmare OS.
Small wonder Pixel as such a dismal market share... they earned it.
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As you stated in so many posts you have 2 Note 10's so I can only assume that your opinion is pure speculation! Did a clean install and don't have any issues at all. When the Note 20 Ultra first came a lot of members were having issues with it to because of importing data and apps from an old phone, once they did a FDR all the problems magically disappeared! Just saying...........................

ggrant3876 said:
As you stated in so many posts you have 2 Note 10's so I can only assume that your opinion is pure speculation! Did a clean install and don't have any issues at all. When the Note 20 Ultra first came a lot of members were having issues with it to because of importing data and apps from an old phone, once they did a FDR all the problems magically disappeared! Just saying...........................
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I read a lot. The Pixel UI... well each to his own is the best I can say.
The N20U has display issues caused by the variable frequency, the N10+ color rendering exceeds the N20U, S21U and likely the P6pro.
I have extremely good color perception, top 1% so I find color aberrations annoying with displays. The 10+ is near spot on even after two years of heavy usage. I'll do a color test between the new and old one to see how tight the calibration is just for kicks sometime.
The N20U is running on R, enough said.
Some of both have 5G, not worth the increased battery usage. This problem persists in most of the newest devices. Variable rate displays, 5G and especially scooped storage are not mature technologies and continue to underperform.
Stats with pics... or it never happened.
Here's what a stock N10+ Snapdragon/P variant did just today with a 4300mAh battery. About one hour is watching utube vids, the rest browsing. The N10+ isn't even breaking a sweat...

The entire pre-order mess has soured my excitement for the phone. Google showed early November delivery, now shows mid January. It seems to cut costs, Google went with outdated and inferior parts and made some strange sacrifices. Samsung always gives it's competitors last year's display tech. Android 12 feels largely incomplete, much like hipster aesthetics were put before functional changes. I have been excited to get a flagship that has a clean base, can be rooted and built upon, but if the hardware is subpar, it may not be worth it.
With Samsung phones, I've debloated and modded almost every element to my liking without even needing root. Custom themes, custom fonts, custom clock styles and placement, always on display scheduling, ability to hide the navigation bar, and endless GoodLock modules to fine tune the UI are all things stock Android 12 can't do. That said, it's always bugged me that Samsung phones have roughly 300 preloaded system apps, where stock Android has about 100. I'm debating whether to cancel the P6P preorder and wait for the S22 Ultra.

Guyinlaca said:
The entire pre-order mess has soured my excitement for the phone. Google showed early November delivery, now shows mid January. It seems to cut costs, Google went with outdated and inferior parts, and made sacrifices to keep costs down. Samsung always gives it's competitors last year's display tech. Android 12 feels largely incomplete, much like hipster aesthetics were put before functional changes. I have been excited to get a flagship that has a clean base, can be rooted and built upon, but if the hardware is subpar, it may not be worth it.
With Samsung phones, I've debloated and modded almost every element to my liking without even needing root. Custom themes, custom fonts, custom clock styles and placement, always on display scheduling, ability to hide the navigation bar, and endless GoodLock modules to fine tune the UI are all things stock Android 12 can't do. That said, it's always bugged me that Samsung phones have roughly 300 preloaded system apps, where stock Android has about 100. I'm debating whether to cancel the P6P preorder and wait for the S22 Ultra.
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I was comparing my 2 N10+'s, one running on 9, the other 10. The 10 variant has dozens of small apks that show on the package disabler, but they're not bloatware. Samsung deliberately moded Android 10 to make it more user friendly and functional. It runs very well.
The S21 isn't anything I want but it shreds the P6pro.
However both are having display issues. I would at least wait for the dust to settle...
Hold out until Samsung gets their act together again if you can... it may take a year or two. Latter 2022 or perhaps 2023. I wouldn't hold my breath... it may take until 2024 to arise from the ashes of mediocre and lack of features.

Guyinlaca said:
I'm debating whether to cancel the P6P preorder and wait for the S22 Ultra.
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Keep in mind you can't unlock the bootloader on recent Samsung phones without breaking the camera completely. I had nothing against them until now but this is major BS on their part.

Ghisy said:
Keep in mind you can't unlock the bootloader on recent Samsung phones without breaking the camera completely. I had nothing against them until now but this is major BS on their part.
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To be fair, on a Samsung, one doesn't really need root. So much debloating can be done using ADB. Many developers have found ways to utilize Samsung's theme engine and font engine to customize the phone however one prefers. I installed an AOSP theme using Hex Installer that made the UI look 95% stock.

Guyinlaca said:
To be fair, on a Samsung, one doesn't really need root. So much debloating can be done using ADB. Many developers have found ways to utilize Samsung's theme engine and font engine to customize the phone however one prefers. I installed an AOSP theme using Hex Installer that made the UI look 95% stock.
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I'm running 2 stock N10+'s using Samsung Galaxy mods, a package disabler, a firewall and heavily optimizing them.
That's all you need... they run great and look/function exactly how I want them too.
No plain Janes here... some assembly required.

Samsung phones are pus*y phones, pardon my language. If you can't unlock the bootloader have any kind of development opportunities, you're just a sheep. Last Samsung phones I had were the Galaxy Nexus and the Note 2. Seems like a lot of Samsung Fanboys here. I get it because we're here to talk about phones, but this is an XDA Development site - Development. It's all about development. So move forth and go forward with your beautiful Sammy phones and enjoy those locked bootloaders!

darbylonia said:
Samsung phones are pus*y phones, pardon my language. If you can't unlock the bootloader have any kind of development opportunities, you're just a sheep. Last Samsung phones I had were the Galaxy Nexus and the Note 2. Seems like a lot of Samsung Fanboys here. I get it because we're here to talk about phones, but this is an XDA Development site - Development. It's all about development. So move forth and go forward with your beautiful Sammy phones and enjoy those locked bootloaders!
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darbylonia said:
Samsung phones are pus*y phones, pardon my language. If you can't unlock the bootloader have any kind of development opportunities, you're just a sheep. Last Samsung phones I had were the Galaxy Nexus and the Note 2. Seems like a lot of Samsung Fanboys here. I get it because we're here to talk about phones, but this is an XDA Development site - Development. It's all about development. So move forth and go forward with your beautiful Sammy phones and enjoy those locked bootloaders!
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Sorry, I had two glasses of wine.

darbylonia said:
Sorry, I had two glasses of wine.
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Good thing it wasn't WT 101
Stability, functionality, speed and good battery life are all that matters. This "pu$$y" phone in my hand right now has all four, it's current load is over 1.5 years old with minimum maintenance/zero updates.
Yeah, I really hate it...

General Mrwhosetheboss calls Pixel 6 The BEST Smartphone of 2021

It seems that our Pixel line-up has finally gained mainstream traction.
Spoilers:
Best phone 300-600 Dollars - Google Pixel 6
Best phone 600-900 Dollars - Google Pixel 6 Pro
Best phone of the year - Google Pixel 6

Sweet, just in time for Black Friday. Smart move by Google

miravision said:
Sweet, just in time for Black Friday. Smart move by Google
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Except that the P6 (Pro) is sold out in many variants and countries - people can't even buy the phone, even if they wanted to
Which is probably the best thing to happen, since that will scream "mega demand".

Haven't watched it but as it stands it's software certainly doesn't make it the best. Wtf? He being paid?
It could be a great phone though. Potential is there

lawtq said:
Haven't watched it but as it stands it's software certainly doesn't make it the best. Wtf? He being paid?
It could be a great phone though. Potential is there
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To be fair, Android 12 is that buggy that its entirely possible for some people to have few to no problems at all. I've seen legit people saying "no, my experience is completely fine" , whilst others have claimed the devil himself to have set their device to constantly bother them. I am somewhat in between, since I encounter some bugs, but no game breaking ones until yet - only a few minor nuisances (like the keyboard staying on a second or two longer than it should, even though I switched application or something like that).
I'm not sure how he used his phone, but if he uses a fresh stock build without a backup (that seems to mess up alot, according to this forum), it's possible that he has only few problems.
A good phone is also not only about software, it's the culmination of software, hardware and price. And the end result heeds to all three factors.
If you think about what you can get with just 599 $ (best phone of the year is Pixel 6 non pro, the pro model "only" won it's respective price category), including that impressive camera, it's not that hard to believe him. Especially the price needs to be heeded here, since most contestants are just way above that, and the other midrange/budget phones just have too many compromises, whilst the basic Pixel 6 only has a few.

MrHeCanKissMyBum more like.
Nothing beats word of mouth, nearly everyone i know that uses Android is now using a Pixel of one model or another and not one of them has looked back and they are recommending them to people they know. Lets be honest a Pixel 4a at £249 (current UK price) is an absolute no brainer regardless of what anyone says really.

Question The Pixel 6 Pro absolutely lives up to the hype

My 6 Pro got delivered this morning and I've spent the entire day setting up and playing with it - this phone is absolutely incredible! (Also the nerd in me is happy to see people shortening the 6 Pro to 6P, I loved my Nexus 6P)
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Can't comment on battery life yet but wow, the display, the cameras and the speakers are all excellent! Haptics are nice and tight, the entire phone feels snappy and gorgeous! Also shout out to the natural depth effect from the 4x telephoto camera, that's a lot of fun to play with.
As someone who's owner multiple Pixel phones in the past, I think every reviewer is on the mark when they say this is the first no compromise Pixel - Google have outdone themselves I fully believe it deserves the hype it's getting!
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Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box

Shipoftheline said:
Got to admit I've never had a phone like it, not with as many bugs that's for sure especially the freezing screen one and still waiting for Google to certify my phone on my network for 5G so no 5G out of the box
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and that search bar so annoying

alleshi said:
and that search bar so annoying
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Yep and no option to change or move it

Shipoftheline said:
Yep and no option to change or move it
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.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on

Shipoftheline said:
Yes we all buy phones like you so we can put Nova on
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By your logic, you may as well not download ANY apps on the playstore and just strictly use apps that are stock on the phone. Pfft.
Stock launchers, since the dawn of Android, have been the most atrocious launchers there are. I've been using Nova ever since Android Donut and have never looked back since.

It was one of the worst phones I've owned, sadly. Sold it in the end after 3 months.

Burt Squirtz said:
.....Except changing to a different launcher like Nova ( which is far better anyway ) which takes all of 30 seconds. Nice complaint.
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Totally agree. Nova fits my needs very well and gives me everything I want in a launcher, with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
Like I said, not a big deal and I'll take it like that. Just a little bummed out because it almost feels like I have a low/mid range phone that isn't fully ready to tackle that initial tap on the home screen because the processor is too slow or the RAM is too low. I really wish it picked up that first immediate tap when going back to the home screen after exiting an app, only thing I miss from the stock launcher. Ok, my rant is done.

I had a high degree of interest in the Pixel 6 pro but in the end a few things steered me in another direction:
- Canada wasn't deemed worthy of the 512 GB model.
- Placed an order for the 256 GB model Jan 01, was still waiting for it Feb 09.
- Spent my time learning as much as I could about the device while waiting for it only to come to the conclusion that
there are way to many unresolved issues with conectivity and audio DAC incomatability etc.
Hopefully they get it right with the Pixel 7 Pro and decide that all regions deserve the same storage options.

The only issue I've run into, is the signal level on the phone. In areas where I would have "full bars", on my old A71 samsung, I have 1/2 bars.

Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.

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....... with one small (but sometimes big to me) caveat. Anyone else notice that when you go home from an app, you have to wait a split second before tapping on anything on the home screen in the Nova launcher? If you tap too quickly, the tap is ignored and you have to tap again. I believe this is a widespread issue that Nova has recognized and I think their stance is "that's how it's designed, take it or leave it."
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It's a well known issue with 3rd-party launchers and A12. I have the same experience with Smart Launcher and still can't find a solution.

I don't fully agree honestly.
There really hasn't been a phone released in the past 3 or 4 years that has lived up to any real hype.
Maybe the Foldables but those are not on my radar currently.
Phone tech is pretty stagnant and the biggest issue we have right now are companies releasing BETA products and BETA software to consumers.
Consumers keep buying into the hype and companies will keep releasing BETA products.
I have the P6P, P6 and a S21 Ultra.
My S21 Ultra has more advanced Google features than any of my Pixel 6's do.

MArtyChubbs said:
Running A12L and 13 radio. Finally, I am enjoying the phone. I've been on Pixel since OG XL and not an iPhone fan. Other Android phones may have better hardware, but blocking ads, easy rooting, and the best AI & ML are the most important factors for my loyalty.
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13 radio on 12L? worth it?

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Personally I have found the Pixel 6 Pro to be a very good phone. I have been fortunate that I have not had the issues that some have had and Fingerprint reader on the whole reads first time, no random reboots, battery that lasts all day even when only charged to 80% (and still leaves me with 30% before re-charging).
I have the Mobile Network Standby reading a stupid number (40%+ recently) but this was 6% back when I got it and the actually battery usage has not changed, so don't feel it is an issue of any consequence.
Signal wise, not had any issues, its about the same as my OnePlus 6T was but this gets 5G when in a signal area which that phone couldn't.
There have been some things I haven't liked in Android 12 and the Pixel Launcher, so I have kept the Apex Launcher I used on the OnePlus and have kept the backgrounds to a minimum to not trigger the colour theming (do prefer greyscale anyway).
On the phone pretty pleased with it and don't have anything that is annoying me.
Will soon swap to a eSim so that I can add my work Sim which from what I am hearing may cause an issue, but will see what happens, can always switch back if needs be until fixed.
One of the reasons for using Android is the freedom to customise things like the launcher and the experience. If I was going to stick solely to what the manufacturer was supplying then I would have an iPhone (Not )

can we just be civil please. We all bought a Pixel 6 because we are the 1%'ers (kind of like a biker club). There are lots of great things about the Pixel Launcher (fluidity, simplicity etc) but there are also great things about Nova Launcher (customization etc). So it's about personal preference - just like choosing a Pixel over a Samsung.
Many times when reading comments on a forum, its hard to get your point across (or the real meaning behind your comment gets hidden). So I just wanted everyone to think about that for a second.

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Works for me, best reception and speed I've had yet

I love my p6pro with root I'm on 12L and have experienced bugs though, like occasional freezing and unresponsive screen. The Bluetooth cuts out on my headphones sometimes, but it's still the best phone I've owned. No complaints at all here with the p6pro

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I'm running the latest 12l radio on stock February update. Also the best bandwidth I've had yet.

Question I've had enough with the Pixel 6 pro.

Pixel 6 pro, had it for like 3 months and this is getting outrages, fingerprint sometimes not working, phone buggy as hell, always over heating over the most basic of task, the battery life is mediocre compared to other phones of the same size and price, so many bugs like camera dot being turned upside down, things not loading and now?? None of the Chargers are charging the phone after the January update. Like not even the pixel 30W adapter and cable will charge it. Like what is this crap, $1200 CAD phone and it barely works and runs on an operating system that runs worse than window Vista. I thought Google had standards but clearly this phone is such a giant letdown, I could go on and on about all the problems this phone has and now the simplest of task can't even be accomplished by it, it can't even charge with a OEM cable and adapter and needs to be restarted 3 times a day when the system bugs out. I have never had such an awful experience with a phone and the pixel 6 pro just proves Google is incapable of making an actual flagship phone. I won't even start with my pixel buds 2 and how bad they are always disconnecting, every time one side earbud dies before the other even hits 90%. I've had enough of Google. It's been out for like 3-4 months and they still can't even fix this. Imagine if they focused on the phone with the same effort they do in the ads department.

As with your phone, have you tried a factory reset?
Your ear buds have gone bad. I had the same problem with my Sony wf-1000xm4 and Sony acknowledged it was a problem caused by a software update. I got mine replaced under warranty after almost a year.

I get you. I've felt like crushing the phone into bits with my hands, or snapping it in half.
But windows 11 for me is the same. My pixel watch etc. I think technology as a whole just isn't a user friendly experience
I got a Samsung a34 5G. Same. It's like the manufacturers of devices conform to deliberately build tech to screw up.
But having said all that, android Z is about 4-5 years away, and with enough people complaining about stuff not working, I think things will need to evolve

how did you get fricked over so badly with the price you paid for it - 1200 cad for a pixel 6 pro in feb 2023? you got ripped off, i got mine for the equivalent of 940 cad in june 2022

I've paid 350$ and i think that I'm ripped off
The phone is good but not as quality of 'google'
It makes some headache from time to time

I came from a oneplus 7 pro /8 5G about 2 years ago and it was a tough transition admittedly. However, I have to say that I've come to find this thing to be both versatile and quite resilient. I put it through hell and it only costs 30 bucks to replace the screen on Google's $9 protection plan. And thanks to the work of the development community, I enjoy a lot of cool features and privacy protection. After hearing about Google's plan for dashcam (supposably, you'll be able to user pixel as a dash cam via the safety app) I will give serious consideration to Pixel 8 Pro.

I'd say Android Flash Tool, flashing al partitions and formatting device, that worked for me, from hating it to loving it, try it if you want as your last choice, if that does not fix it, nothing will

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I'd say Android Flash Tool, flashing al partitions and formatting device, that worked for me, from hating it to loving it, try it if you want as your last choice, if that does not fix it, nothing will
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my battery life was so bad, even after doing that, but a custom kernel fixed that

Main problem with mine has been the mediocre modem. Constantly have bad signal and at least twice a day whilst not on WiFi I will lose all connectivity. Even though shows I have signal and on 4g/5g I have to toggle airplane mode to get it talking again. My first experience on a Google phone and possibly my last

Bliss 16.7, radioactive kernel, with pictured modules, and LSPosed modules. Best phone setup I've had in awhile. Then get ReVanced modded apps. Hmu if you need help making your P6P better.

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I get you. I've felt like crushing the phone into bits with my hands, or snapping it in half.
But windows 11 for me is the same. My pixel watch etc. I think technology as a whole just isn't a user friendly experience
I got a Samsung a34 5G. Same. It's like the manufacturers of devices conform to deliberately build tech to screw up.
But having said all that, android Z is about 4-5 years away, and with enough people complaining about stuff not working, I think things will need to evolve
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I was a bit harsh in my statement about modern tech's shortcomings.
With AI manifesting itself daily into most applications I think things will change. I rooted my a34 and it is a little less powerful than the 6pro, with just 6gb of ram.
The pixel 6 pro isn't a bad phone, I was just having a bad day when I posted that.

General OnePlus 11 General Discussion

Hey everyone,
iPhone 14 Pro Max user here,
What's everybody's thoughts about this phone? Why would an iPhone user who gets top dollar for selling their phone right before/after announcement of the next want to buy this? I ordered the OP 11 for a crazy price of $500 after taxes from an open box deal and was wondering if this phone would be worth keeping.
I used to visit this site to find the latest tweaks and cool tricks you could do with your Android phone and there seems to be pretty much nothing that you couldn't do with a stock OnePlus 11. I am the type to try to not be reliant on expensive subscriptions such as cloud storage, hardware that is just overpriced, and being wrapped up deep into a single brand's ecosystem. I figured I already use Snapdrop instead of AirDrop, AirParrot instead on my Windows laptop instead of AirPlay on an Apple device, my home NAS instead of iCloud, and Windows PC's over expensive comparable Macs. However, I still use a few Apple devices in my daily life.
Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Apple nor do I feel any reason to HAVE to leave them, but I am always open to other options and I've always had a soft spot for OnePlus ever since the original 1. iPhones are becoming well-polished phones but I feel like iOS is bland sometimes.
In my opinion, OnePlus peaked with the 7 Pro. (It almost got me to switch back to Android) That phone did really everything right to me besides having pretty lackluster cameras. I really was only interested in checking this phone out because I noticed it was one of the only devices that supports Wi-Fi 7, it has incredibly fast charging, and it has USB-C! My iPhone has hardly any weaknesses, so I would really have to be won over big time by an Android phone to make me want to switch.
Do we see a future where, within the next few months to a year, this phone becomes perfectly compatible with a GCAM mod that will improve camera quality a lot and/or we receive some really neat custom ROM options / mods that really enhance the experience this hardware has to offer?
Something about these OnePlus phones and their bleeding-edge performance in certain key areas still have me wanting one every year. I just have a hard time justifying how I could force myself to use an Android phone living in the United States where all my business/family contacts use iOS for their mobile operating system. I feel like once iPhones use USB-C, they no longer have a camera cutout on their screens, and they can support faster charging speeds, Android will be dead in the US. It's a rough future ahead. For me, I used to love Android for the customization, the fun stuff that iOS would never allow, and that there were just so many choices to decide between depending on what device suited your needs most. Just my thoughts and opinions. Feel free to reply with what you think about this phone or how you navigate having to use an Android in an iOS-dominant country. I could easily switch, but I just don't see any major reason to do so anymore. And seeing the OP 11 forums kind of quiet compared to the old days of Google Nexus devices doesn't lead me to believe that people overall like this phone / are working on anything unofficially to try to improve the phone.

The forums have been relatively quiet for multiple reasons:
1. OnePlus has become developer community unfriendly, almost hostile: it's way too hard/too much work to create/install a different ROM than the official. In addition to that OnePlus has totally disabled full access to its cameras, "this phone becomes perfectly compatible with a GCAM mod that will improve camera quality" - no, very unlikely to happen.
2. OnePlus once was a flagship killer but in terms of price/features they have been lacking recently. OnePlus 11 is a breath of fresh air in terms of pricing but there are much much more affordable options such as the ZTE Nubia Z50 at $400 or something, which is almost twice as cheap as the OnePlus 11.
3. OxygenOS 13 is not the OxygenOS you may remember, it's a ColorOS facelift. OxygenOS 12 was extremely buggy and incomplete. "OxygenOS" 13 is lacking literally dozens of features present in OxygenOS 9-10-11.
4. Developers in general tinker with their Android phones a lot less nowadays than in the past. The whole development scene has been in decline.
5. Weird update policy doesn't help. I've heard (cannot confirm) that certain older OnePlus devices haven't got updates in the past 8 months.
That's my thoughts which may not necessarily represent the status quo.
To be honest I see no reason to switch from Apple to OnePlus unless you need advanced Android features such as normal file management, downloading any files from the Internet, being able to send files via BlueTooth, modding, various home screens, third party phone/SMS applications, etc. etc. etc.

You just listed pretty much most of the features Apple users don't have anyway so LoL
Unfortunately I have to use iPhone in my work so 3/4 of the day I spend on iOS. Compared to stock Oxygen OS13 (even if hated by die hard Oneplus fans) it is still much better IMO and more configurable than iOS. Apps eco system is different, iOS have generally more stylish apps but most of them if not pretty much every single one that is actually worth consideration is always paid version only.
From birdie's list, only the update policy on Android phones are worse compared to Apple.

birdie said:
The forums have been relatively quiet for multiple reasons:
1. OnePlus has become developer community unfriendly, almost hostile: it's way too hard/too much work to create/install a different ROM than the official. In addition to that OnePlus has totally disabled full access to its cameras, "this phone becomes perfectly compatible with a GCAM mod that will improve camera quality" - no, very unlikely to happen.
2. OnePlus once was a flagship killer but in terms of price/features they have been lacking recently. OnePlus 11 is a breath of fresh air in terms of pricing but there are much much more affordable options such as the ZTE Nubia Z50 at $400 or something, which is almost twice as cheap as the OnePlus 11.
3. OxygenOS 13 is not the OxygenOS you may remember, it's a ColorOS facelift. OxygenOS 12 was extremely buggy and incomplete. "OxygenOS" 13 is lacking literally dozens of features present in OxygenOS 9-10-11.
4. Developers in general tinker with their Android phones a lot less nowadays than in the past. The whole development scene has been in decline.
5. Weird update policy doesn't help. I've heard (cannot confirm) that certain older OnePlus devices haven't got updates in the past 8 months.
That's my thoughts which may not necessarily represent the status quo.
To be honest I see no reason to switch from Apple to OnePlus unless you need advanced Android features such as normal file management, downloading any files from the Internet, being able to send files via BlueTooth, modding, various home screens, third party phone/SMS applications, etc. etc. etc.
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It's sad to see! My shipment got delayed and I'm already thinking of not keeping the phone. I feel like OnePlus needs a really strong camera setup before they can finally compete. I use my cameras too much to not have the best out there. The more reviews I watch, the more people say how the S23 Ultra is pretty much a better phone in almost every area besides charging and not having Wi-Fi 7. Not only that, but it seems that the phone also have custom ROM support. Just not trying to spend iPhone money on an Android unless I was for sure going to switch over. The Samsung has me slightly more intrigued...

rmx36 said:
It's sad to see! My shipment got delayed and I'm already thinking of not keeping the phone. I feel like OnePlus needs a really strong camera setup before they can finally compete. I use my cameras too much to not have the best out there. The more reviews I watch, the more people say how the S23 Ultra is pretty much a better phone in almost every area besides charging and not having Wi-Fi 7. Not only that, but it seems that the phone also have custom ROM support. Just not trying to spend iPhone money on an Android unless I was for sure going to switch over. The Samsung has me slightly more intrigued...
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SGS23 Ultra currently has the absolute best camera setup of any smartphone on Earth. I've seen its 50MP shots, they are outstanding. OnePlus 11 pales in comparison.
I'd have bought SGS23 Ultra but it's at the very least $400 more expensive which is too much for me.

It's not the best phone out there, but it isn't the worst either. People bash a lot about the color os version of oxygen os. I'm using it and kind of got used to it. It gets the work done. Cameras are very good according to the price. Front camera is mediocre. But the rear is very strong. You can see the reviews. Also it gets better through updates. Lastly and fortunately, a developer got the phone through crowdfunding as far as I know. So development might just happen for op11. Fingers crossed.

OP if you are able why not just use both? I have both OnePlus 11 and iPhone 14 pro max that I use everyday along with my pixel 7 pro. the iPhone 14 pro max has my primary sim in it which I use paired with an apple watch. and I recently made the move to an IPhone in early 2022 full time before that I was android all the way. I still want to use android because as everyone knows it still does things IPhones cant do. so anyways i use my oneplus 11 to mainly listen to podcasts, watch sports and tv. the speakers on this thing are great. maybe the iPhone beats it but not by alot imo. the screen i feel is better than the Iphone 14 pro max. and it acutally has a damn sim card slot which is something I hate that apple got rid of and sadly i see most companies doing in the future. the camera on the oneplus isn't as good but for me i dont care about that.
the only reason besides the apple watch that keeps me on an iphone as my daily is because of a very niche app otherwise i would be on android full time and i would just use the iphone to keep in the know.

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... Apps eco system is different, iOS have generally more stylish apps but most of them if not pretty much every single one that is actually worth consideration is always paid version only.
From birdie's list, only the update policy on Android phones are worse compared to Apple.
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This is why android users are generally categorized as being cheap people. I don't care what platform I'm using iOS, android or whatever if an app is worth it to me then I will pay for it. IMO this is why apple apps perform better than their android counterparts because developers know that people will pay for them so its worth their time.