The 2022 Bluetooth Blues! - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Firstly, an enormous thank you to all the amazing Devs that are still building ROMS for this old (but great!) tablet! Your work and expertise are greatly appreciated!
I've acquired a Nexus 7 2013 Flo 16gb. I wanted to tether WiFi from my Samsung S9 phone via Hotspot and use this tablet for Sat Nav and music etc in my car, a 2011 Ford Grand C-Max. It isn't permanently mounted, just with magnets on the dashboard so I can use it for other things when I'm not driving.
Using the N7's Bluetooth, I can see "Ford Audio" and get a PIN to use displayed on the cars LCD screen when I tap "connect". Everything works fine until I leave the car and take the tablet with me...
The next time I get in the car, the tablet will still see Ford Audio, and the car still lists the N7 as remembered device, but it absolutely will not connect to it again.
If I try to connect using the car's aux button, it'll say "Activating BT Device" for around 30 seconds and then shows "Activation Failed".
If I tap connect on the N7, sometimes it says "connected for a split second and then disappears again as if I never tried to connect.
The only way to get them connected again is to fully debond the N7 from the car, then reconnect from the tablet by entering a PIN number again.
My Samsung Galaxy S9 phone, (and my old Samsung Note 3 phone) doesn't have this problem. I pair the phone once with a PIN, play music with no problems, leave the car, come back, press the Aux button and it immediately picks up Spotify from where I left off. It also displays the name of the song being played and the amount of time the track has been playing, this doesn't happen at all with the Nexus tablet.
I've tried removing all Bluetooth devices from the car, changing the display name of the N7 tablet, 3 new ROMS (Lineage 19, Resurrection Remix Q and RR Pie.) It did this on Stock so thought using a more modern custom ROM would fix this strange problem but 3 ROMs later it's still happening.
I've Googled, and read on XDA, seems a lot of people had Bluetooth problems with this tablet back in the day, but that was on Android 4.4.2... But I'm still feeling this on Androids 6, 9, 10 and 12 so far, was there really never a fix found for Bluetooth problems on this device?
Does anyone have any ideas of what may be going wrong? Or any trouble shooting steps to advise? It's too much fuss to remove and re-pair the tablet every time I leave the car so any help would be appreciated please!

I can now add LineageOS 14.1 (Android7) with the ElementalX kernal to the list.
It does the exact same thing as the other Roms, pairs and connects perfectly the 1st time... After that it stays paired but doesn't connect.
If music/Spotify is already playing on the N7 and I click to connect to Ford Audio in the bluetooth settings, the music will be played on the car speakers for around 2 seconds and then stop, and then start again for another second... And then be gone forever! So bizarre.
The only way around this I can see is to buy an Aux > Bluetooth adapter from Amazon, pair the N7 to it and use the Aux channel for Audio out from the tablet over bluetooth. But I'd lose the ability to skip tracks with the steering wheel controls.

Until recently I had a N7 (2013) as my nav tablet in my vehicle. It was running Lineage.
I didn't have it paired to my stereo system, but it was paired to my steering wheel controls.
I didn't take it in or out, so that simplified things. It had a battery-ectomy and ran on a 4V regulator.
I ended up replacing it with a Walmart Onn 8" $70 tablet.
The Bluetooth spec is 3700 pages so it's doubtful that anyone has ever implemented it correctly.

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Bluetooth constant reconnecting to Mazda stereo

I've been using my Galaxy 3 for a couple years with my car's stereo to listen to MP3s and Audio Books and hoped to continue doing the same with my new Note 4 DE.
Previously, once everything was paired up and working fine, if I turned off the car to go into a store or work or whatever, when I got back in and started the car up, after a couple seconds the bluetooth device would just continue playing where I left off.
Now, when I start the car the stereo flashes "acquiring Bluetooth data" and then for like half a second it shows the normal screen with the info on what the phone is trying to play, like track listings and all that, then instantly flashes back to the "acquiring..." message, and repeats endlessly.
I have to turn off Bluetooth on the phone for a second to get it to stop, then I re activate Bluetooth and have to either re-pair, or change the stereo source to FM/CD/etc, then back to Bluetooth, and then it will start working as intended.
This thing is brand new, all stock software except the basic root done on it.
It's not a Bluetooth or note 4 issue and maybe more of an interoperability issue. I have a Rav4 with my note 4 stock retail and it functions like you describe with automatically starting when I enter the car. It starts where I left off.

Bluetooth pairing issues

My issue today is that my bluetooth will not pair properly and remember its configurations. My initial pairing on my phone with my car's flexsmart X3 works perfect, however when I turn off my bluetooth on the phone or turn off my car and turn it back on the phone will still see the flexsmart and it will say it is paired but I get no sound. Upon further investigating I find that in the options setting that neither the call nor music tick box is checked. If I try to tick them it will think for a few seconds and then gray out and do nothing again.
I never had a problem with my note 2 or my temp replacement evo 3d remembering these settings. All I would do with those phones was pair it once and then any time I hopped in the car I would just turn onm,y phone's bluetooth and go. Now with my note 4 I have to unpair and repair the devices each and every time which is a huge pain.
I have read a little bit that this is due to samsung note 4 using a newer bluetooth standard than its predecessors. Is there anyway to circumvent this issue by maybe rolling back the bluetooth drivers or something? I even thought about creating a tasker profile to help with this but still I would have to physically press the search button on the flexsmart eachtime.
Any and all suggestions would be great. Also right now I am on rooted stock 5.0.1
PS: I will try and post some photos to help when I get the chance to get to my car.
I've been start for a solution to this since the phone came out as well. I have the same Bluetooth issues with my phone in my car. Nothing more annoying than having to turn Bluetooth on and off for 10-15 minutes of your drive before you can use the damn thing. Oh wait, more annoying would be when it's been working for a solid 45 minutes or so and then suddenly, with no warning, the Bluetooth connection ends for no reason and your cars stereo comes on instead of what you were streaming only the volume on the cars radio is far louder and it scares the ever living crap out of you
flyhighx said:
I've been start for a solution to this since the phone came out as well. I have the same Bluetooth issues with my phone in my car. Nothing more annoying than having to turn Bluetooth on and off for 10-15 minutes of your drive before you can use the damn thing. Oh wait, more annoying would be when it's been working for a solid 45 minutes or so and then suddenly, with no warning, the Bluetooth connection ends for no reason and your cars stereo comes on instead of what you were streaming only the volume on the cars radio is far louder and it scares the ever living crap out of you
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Odd....I dont seem to have that issue. Once I have initially paired the bluetooth it will stay connected without any interruptions. Also pairing for me is really fast and only takes a minute or so. My problem is that instead of my phone remembering the current device settings that it is paired with, it will forget to associate it with calls and data after I turn the bluetooth off and then later back on even though the phone will still remember it is paired with the car bluetooth.
First world problems I know but it gets a tad annoying having to unpair and repair my phone each and everytime I hop in my car to go somewhere if I want to listen to my music.
In the car I don't get a lot of skipping. But when connected to my BT speakers audio does skip a lot and starts playing in ffw then disconnects completely. It's driving me nuts. I've tried all the usual trouble shooting also. No help. Wtf Samsung/Google

Bluetooth Not Connecting - Worked Previously

OK, so I got everything working on my unit back in November. Bluetooth worked fine and connected with my phone and OBD device (OBDLink LX).
Suddenly within the last couple of weeks, it's stopped connecting. I have tried rebooting the radio, unplugging/replugging my bluetooth OBD, unpairing the phone, repairing, etc... Nothing seems to work for more than a few minutes. Sometimes it will work for one trip, but then the next trip it's back to REFUSING to connect to either bluetooth device. Remember - BOTH worked before, and I didn't change anything.
Since it's happening with both my Phone and my OBD device, it appears like it is a fault in the stereo. I really don't want to do a full factory reset as that would entail many hours sitting in the car wasting gas idling while I reinstall/reconfigure EVERYTHING only to not even be sure it won't do this again.
Anybody have any tips on something I can do to fix this? There does not appear to be any kind of "unpair" option in the bluetooth settings on the radio itself. I'm wondering if there's a way I can manually reset just all of the bluetooth settings - blow them away and start over without resetting the whole device.
This is a pretty big deal - one of the #1 reasons I bought this device was for OBD datalogging. If that feature does not work, I will rip it out of my dashboard and ebay it. PERIOD...
Adcice?
Nobody?
I tried changing the bluetooth device name, changing the PIN and re-pairing my devices. They work intermittently, but 90% of the time won't connect, or if they do, they won't stay connected.
This is turning my radio into an expensive piece of garbage...
lotherius said:
I tried changing the bluetooth device name, changing the PIN and re-pairing my devices. They work intermittently, but 90% of the time won't connect, or if they do, they won't stay connected.
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Try keeping wifi on all the time (even if not actually connected to any network).
themissionimpossible said:
Try keeping wifi on all the time (even if not actually connected to any network).
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I do have Wifi on all the time. I have an LTE Hotspot I keep in the glovebox of my car that powers up as soon as the car powers on. So there's 100% wifi coverage for my stereo no matter where I'm at.
I can randomly get it to connect, but it won't stay connected. When I'm in the bluetooth menu, the devices will actually disappear from the paired devices list. Both paired and available will go blank just suddenly as the devices drop off. Then they'll reappear on their own. So it appears to be the bluetooth stack is crashing - but I'm not sure why.
It is a KLD RK3188 unit. Running latest MCU (came preloaded, just bought it in November - I haven't put a new MCU) and recent firmware, which is a stock firmware, not MalaySK (MalaySK doesn't support the digital display below the screen on my unit)...
At this point this unit is trash if I can't keep Bluetooth working more than 10% of the time.
Sent from my OnePlus One.
lotherius said:
I can't keep Bluetooth working more than 10% of the time.
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Some smartphones might show an incompatibility with the radio's BT stack. To be sure try with another smartphone.
I would see if it pairs reliably with just one device at a time. My phone has issues connecting with the HU if I first connect my BT headset to the phone but works fine if I do it after. Also the construction of these seems to be sub-par and it could be the bt device or antenna in yours was not connectec/mounted well and you hit a pothole and now its not attached/broken/loose. It may be worth opening and looking inside for something that broke off or is loose. Finally, I have had (well still have) my factory settings change randomly and have to go in and reset. There are settings in the for BT module and it may be worth looking to see if yours are correct.
I also have problems with mine but I'm running Marshmallow in my OPO. As soon as i go back to Lollipop (CM 12.1) it works again.
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I also have problems with mine but I'm running Marshmallow in my OPO. As soon as i go back to Lollipop (CM 12.1) it works again.
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Turns out I think it's the OPO. Mine has issues even with 12.1. I think it's based on Modem version not firmware version. Your modem may have been changed when you went back to 12.1.
For me changing modem versions is something I really want to avoid. I hunted forever for a modem version that didn't constantly drop WiFi and LTE, finally found one, and I think that's when the Bluetooth issues started. Every time I flash a modem to the OPO it becomes a nightmare. That phone really does not want you messing with the firmware which is not what I expected when I bought it.
For now I'm back on my old Nexus 5. No problems. I may just sell the OPO and never stray from Nexus again.
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Hmmm.
My OPO doesn't connect to the headset but my chinese BT OBD dongle connects fine and works.
I have the same problem with my unit but phone working.Only obd2 adapter some times not connecting.Have you find any solution?
I have a similar issue with the Pixel XL.
Previous I was on a Nexus 5 Bluetooth worked perfectly every time without fail, could make calls, listen to music and sync address book no issue.
Now since moving to the Pixel XL I have an issue connecting to the head unit. The head unit shows as a connected device, but then flashes green then grey, green, grey showing connected, disconnected... I can still stream music from my phone over Bluetooth, but voice is not achievable.
Like suggested it's likely to be the BT stack in the handset rather than the head unit as works fine with Nexus 5. Highly frustrating and likely no fix unless it can be patched by software update
I'm also having the same problem as you noodlemctwoodle on a Nexus 6P with 7.1 developer preview.
I've un-enrolled from the beta program this morning, waiting for the ota to come down, as soon as it does will re-test and let you know if it's working, as I suspect it is a problem with the bluetooth stack in 7.1
MTCD MLT (Xtrons TD618AS) Bluetooth and OBD Reader
I have had issues with the Bluetooth on the MTCD MLT V1.76_1 (Xtrons TD618AS).
I found a work around which allows me to use the OBD reader successfully. I downloaded an Android Bluetooth App and toggled off the Bluetooth. Once the Bluetooth was toggled off I was able to access the OBD reader by using the "Piston" OBD app. I tapped on the car picture and waited for the app to think about things. Once the app finished thinking I was able to start capturing the live OBD data by pressing the play picture. I am only speculating, but I feel as though perhaps the firmware engineers goofed. This is even the OBD reader that Xtrons promoted as compatible with the TD618AS stereo I bought with it at the same time. Not to mention that I continually lose FM radio even though the stereo was professionally installed and no wires were cut. I was very excited, and now only depressed.
mr.hackerly said:
I have had issues with the Bluetooth on the MTCD MLT V1.76_1 (Xtrons TD618AS).
I found a work around which allows me to use the OBD reader successfully. I downloaded an Android Bluetooth App and toggled off the Bluetooth.
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Which Bluetooth app did you download?

OTA May 2018 Update + Car Bluetooth Music issues

Hi all,
Has anyone experienced any weird Bluetooth issues after installing the latest May OTA update (OPM1.171019.011-RZR-180509.5038)? I've realized that the BT controls on my 2015 Nissan Sentra no longer work properly. It doesn't automatically connect to BT anymore and no track information shows on the head-unit. The weird thing is that I CAN get music to play, at least.
I just wanted to know if I happened to be losing my mind after numerous reboots and re-pairing between the car and the phone.
Same for me. I can delete it. Pair it again and it works. Next time I get in the car it won't reconnect.. worked fine before the update at the weekend.
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It's a fire an miss actually. Sometimes it reconnects automatically with the car's unit (alpine aftermarket) and sometimes it doesn't. I had noticed that if I get in the car for the 1st time today (for ex), it won't reconnect back and i have to cycle around the input in order to "kickstart" the reconnecting process. If I make a stop along the way, stop the car, get out (thus interrupting the connection) and getting back after a while, it will reconnect automatically without any issues. I'm not even taking it out of my pocket. But this scenario is happening since day one, not necessarily from the last update.
On the other hand, I got a smartband (coincidentally after the last update) and now, while the smartband is connected via BT, when I turn on my BT wireless headphone adapter, it won't re-connect anymore (simultaneously with the smartband) and if it does, it's without media playback. As a workaround, I have to 1st turn off the smartband, clear the BT of any active connection (And also any other device with media playback capabilities), turn on the BT adapter so it will connect full, then turn the smartband back on. And not always works like this.
So, I do have on an off issues with the BT stability and connections with various devices, not just car unit.
Strangely though my smart watch connects no problem and the stereo in my motorhome was connecting at the weekend. It's just the car ( a Vauxhall Astra) that refuses to connect unless I delete and re pair....
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I can't get music to play with Spotify or YouTube. The phone connects fine, shows song info but just won't play no matter what I try.
The weird thing is that calls work perfectly. Sound through car speakers and mic works. Just doesn't want to play music.
I've tried unpairing, re-pairing, deleting, even factory reset on both phone and stereo. Worked fine before the 8.1 Oreo update. (I'm on 3 UK handset).
Im having issues as well, it will connect the first time when I manually connect the phone and stereo to MyLink. It will say connected but (No Media) so i try to pair the media and it disconnects my phone from BT and then i have to delete device and re connect device manually. As well if i leave the vehicle or turn it off then it will disconnect. Not just my vehicle but the other showroom vehicles do that as well. Can someone let me know if there is a bluetooth upgrade or a firmware upgrade that can fix this problem? is there anything that we can do for this let me know. Thanks!!
I am having the same issue in my bmw.
I can delete the phone and re-pair... But it sucks having to do that every thing.
also having issues as well. It connects to my headphones and the after market HU in my truck but it will not connect at all to the factory HU in Genesis Coupe. I have tried to delete and re pair and still nothing.
So currently it all works for me with the latest update. It definitely takes a little bit longer than normal though. Not sure how long some of you waited, but compared to my old phones it feels like an eternity during the time it doesn't connect. I also use a smartwatch and it is always connected to that. If you guys need or want any files, let me know. I'm currently waiting for a usb-c to usb-a cable in the mail, so once that is here I can try to help.
I think this is all more of an Android issue. I was having most of the exact same issues mentioned here on my LG V20 on Oreo.
I just for a Razer Phone 1 off eBay this week. I did the Pie update and within a day, the bluetooth issues have returned. Sometimes phone won't connect to car stereo - sometimes reboot stereo, sometimes toggle phone bluetooth off/on, or sometimes just wait 10-30 seconds. Doing the same showing info on car stereo display, but no audio transmitted. I also had similar issues using a OnePlus 3 with both Dirty Unicorns and Resurrection Remix Pie ROMs. I was beginning to think it was my car stereo until I read the comments on this thread. Seeing so many others having the exact same issues on factory and aftermarket stereos (mine is an aftermarket), and knowing it's happening on different devices and both Oreo and Pie , I'm thinking it's an Android 8 and 9 issue.

Bluetooth and Car Audio

Anyone else having issues with connecting the 7T to their car and getting audio going out of it? My OG Pixel didn't have a problem, but I have to toggle off/toggle on Bluetooth and then manually tap the car's bluetooth listing to get it to actually 'connect' the audio portion.
Rather annoying, considering I'm only in the car for a few minutes at a time, this either eats into the time entirely, or makes me sit in my car for a couple minutes before even driving to fiddle with the bluetooth settings.
Car has stock headunit, 2015 Evo X. Like I said, original Pixel XL had no issues, but this is annoying. I've tried changing bluetooth versions to no avail. I can see it connecting and dropping the bluetooth connection fairly frequently while staring at it and trying to 'get it going'. But once it connects, it stays there.
My bluetooth headphones (Some knock off cheap Chinese ones for $20) don't seem to have an issue.
My connection to my aftermarket stereo is fine. Just seems a little quieter than my last phone. Connecting is kind of slow too when I start my car but it is automatic.
I don't have any issues with connecting to all 3 cars (2014 Honda Accord, 2009 Pontiac G8 Gt and a 2018 Honda Fit) but I do agree that the volume seems a little lower than my previous phone (Galaxy S8).
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Hmm. Weird. Is there anyway I can check for logs to find out what exactly is happening? I haven't rooted, just don't know if it's something I can naturally pull from Android as a whole.
I had the same issue, but when I made the phone discoverable and initiated bt from the car stereo it seemed to work.
I also set a custom pin , not the default 0000
My bluetooth is quiet, but its also static-y. I never had any issues with my G6 and now I get static clipping every 10 or so seconds. Its unbearable.
jagadeesh16 said:
I had the same issue, but when I made the phone discoverable and initiated bt from the car stereo it seemed to work.
I also set a custom pin , not the default 0000
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I'm not really having an issue pairing it, but it's just connecting after pairing is the problem.
I have changed the default pin. I can see it popping up and down the car stereo a few times in the bluetooth settings before it just gives up.
As for the other issues, I'm not having a problem at all with audio volume, nor popping/static when it finally does connect.
My volume is super low when connected to Android Auto and streaming music. Have to turn the radio up to max. However, I'm assuming that's an AA issue or Android issue, as it seems many others are having the same problem with different phones. Been thinking of adding an aftermarket amp to the car. Maybe I should pull the trigger. Lol
Phreak411 said:
My volume is super low when connected to Android Auto and streaming music. Have to turn the radio up to max. However, I'm assuming that's an AA issue or Android issue, as it seems many others are having the same problem with different phones. Been thinking of adding an aftermarket amp to the car. Maybe I should pull the trigger. Lol
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Be careful that a bugfix doesn't come and blow your eardrums out, lol.
Milkshakes00 said:
Be careful that a bugfix doesn't come and blow your eardrums out, lol.
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LOL that would be my luck
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My OnePlus 7t connects fine and phone works for calls on 2014 cts. The sound comes out of phone can change song on head unit but I can't get audio to play through car. Anyone else get this?
Yeah music stutters with car player... Only calls work. Music works on headphones etc. I couldn't find solution, did network reset, cleared cache. Nothing works.
Seriously!
I've wasted at least two hours already trying all the recommended steps: from flicking icons on and off to a full phone reset.
Still no connection to my Suzuki S-cross car. Multiple previous phones have connected effortlessly.
Even the $50 temporary five year old borrowed phone could handle it.
Anyone got any other suggestions? Yes, tried the AVRCP setting change from 1.4 to 1.6. That didn't work either...
Barebones system reset from scratch running O2 OS 10.0.6HD65AA
Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
I need to be able to talk and drive!
Reset the car radio and clear all pairing data if you can. Then try again.
autosurgeon said:
Reset the car radio and clear all pairing data if you can. Then try again.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
Tried that.
Tried one other car - no problems.
Tried a tablet and a very old phone with the car and suprise - the car's bluetooth seems to be the problem.
I will try and find out if I can fix the car!
UPDATE: Morale of the story - read the car manual very very carefully and go though each tedious step = SUCCESS
mikefnz said:
Thanks for the suggestion.
Tried that.
Tried one other car - no problems.
Tried a tablet and a very old phone with the car and suprise - the car's bluetooth seems to be the problem.
I will try and find out if I can fix the car!
UPDATE: Morale of the story - read the car manual very very carefully and go though each tedious step = SUCCESS
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Yep most have lots of tedious steps that are different model to model and if not followed exactly will cause this problem on occasion..
In my case music starts to be scrambled after 10 minutes or so of listening. When I take the phone (so the watch pops up) or turn on the screen it immediately works fine again, but when being put aside and the screen turns off, the issue starts again ..
Also in the early days of my previous 5t I had the same issues but some fix was delivered together with oxygen os update. And now the same story again
I have a different issue with Bluetooth:
- OP7T connects to car Bluetooth fine
- I can make/answer calls
- Bluetooth media works fine
The problem is with Google Assistant & car audio:
- it was working as intended until the latest update - 10.0.15 - I was pressing the button on the steering wheel the google assistant was answering questions through the car bluetooth, no need to switch to bluetooth media.
- after the latest update, when I press the button on the steering wheel, Google assistant pops on the phone , starts to answer question, but cuts off after 5 seconds. the command still goes through and Assistant still runs, but does not come up on the car audio.
- it looks like the Assistant is not connecting to the car as a hands free, but as to a bluetooth handsets.
Anyone experiencing this?

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