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You can share a 3G network to a laptop via an HTC Touch Pro2 but, near as I can tell, you can't share a Wi-Fi connection? ie. if my laptop doesn't, itself, have a Wi-Fi connection, can I use my cellphone's Wi-Fi connectivity to connect to a Wi-Fi network?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630337
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orb3000 said:
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I think that he's wanting to use the phone as a wifi adapter (i.e. wireless NIC) for his laptop, rather than using the phone as a wifi router. In other words...his laptop does't have built-in wifi at all, so he wants to use his phone to accomplish that rather than an external USB stick, card, etc. I've been curious for a while if that's even possible, but haven't come across any methods yet...
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I think that he's wanting to use the phone as a wifi adapter (i.e. wireless NIC) for his laptop, rather than using the phone as a wifi router. In other words...his laptop does't have built-in wifi at all, so he wants to use his phone to accomplish that rather than an external USB stick, card, etc. I've been curious for a while if that's even possible, but haven't come across any methods yet...
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That's exactly it. Most places I go to have ethernet cables I can plug into but, from time to time, I find myself at a place that just has 802.11b/g access points. Rather than carry a PCMCIA wireless adapter around with me so that I might use it once every blue moon, I'd just assume use something I already have on me - my cellphone - as a wireless adapter.
Alternatively, if I, at a future date, got a laptop with a built in wireless adapter, it'd still be nice to be able to have two wireless adapters. ie. maybe the 802.11g network I'm connecting to uses WPA and I'm trying to connect with a Nintendo DS that only supports WEP networks. I could, in theory, use my cell phone as an adapter to the WPA network and turn my laptop into a WEP access point.
I'd say there are several use cases for being able to use a cellphone as an adapter to an 802.11g network, although I will grant that they're probably fairly niche use cases.
I am also interested in this as it would allow me to use my laptop for free internet at places like starbucks where my Tilt 2 gets to connect for free.
Internet>>> ATT Wifi >>> Tilt 2 >>>> Laptop
I too would love this functionality. If anyone knows of an app/registry hack/whatever that enables this, please post the details here.
shdwphnx said:
I too would love this functionality. If anyone knows of an app/registry hack/whatever that enables this, please post the details here.
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WMWifiRouter (not free) has this functionality. Along with the standard features like cellular to WiFi and cellular to USB, WMWifiRouter also does more exotic connections like WiFi to USB. It's €15, but it's an application with a lot of functionality and the developer who created it is a very highly respected XDA member, who provides many of his other products for free.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
WMWifiRouter (not free) has this functionality. Along with the standard features like cellular to WiFi and cellular to USB, WMWifiRouter also does more exotic connections like WiFi to USB. It's €15, but it's an application with a lot of functionality and the developer who created it is a very highly respected XDA member, who provides many of his other products for free.
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Awesome, thanks Dave. I'd been thinking about buying it anyway in place of the (very basic) free wifi router app I found on here too, and now it sounds like a no-brainer
Just did it
I just did this very setup earlier with my HTC Tilt 2. I had the phone connected to my Wi-Fi network, and turned off my Wi-Fi on my laptop. Connected the phone to the laptop using the USB cable, and selected "Use as modem" and it was an automatic process...i'm running Windows 7 on my laptop..if that helps..it just worked.
Anyone noticed the option for wi-fi direct ?
cant find any way to configure it
It's under more i believe.
yes but thats just a tick box to turn it on :S .. no way to configure it like the galaxy s 2
What is wifi direct?
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aindow said:
What is wifi direct?
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Wi-Fi Direct "is a certification mark for devices supporting a game-changing new technology enabling Wi-Fi devices to connect directly, making it simple and convenient to do things like print, share, synch and display. Products bearing the Wi-Fi Direct certification mark can connect to one another without joining a traditional home, office or hotspot network."
Sounds good to me!
yeh its great used it with GS2 to send music file in seconds .. its so fast
just want to know how to configure and use it with the nexus
Just an update.. after some digging it turns out that wifi direct in ics is just an api atm so app developers need to make use of this seemingly overlooked feature
lolittle said:
Just an update.. after some digging it turns out that wifi direct in ics is just an api atm so app developers need to make use of this seemingly overlooked feature
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Hmm, I wonder if Android beam uses it?
No pure NFC with NDEF messages ... next semester at university i will be doing android develpoment .. if nothing is out by then i will have a go at making an app but it doesnt look to hard i would expect someone to have done one soon
Wi-Fi Direct
Android now supports Wi-Fi Direct for peer-to-peer (P2P) connections between Android-powered devices and other device types without a hotspot or Internet connection. The Android framework provides a set of Wi-Fi P2P APIs that allow you to discover and connect to other devices when each device supports Wi-Fi Direct, then communicate over a speedy connection across distances much longer than a Bluetooth connection.
A new package, android.net.wifi.p2p, contains all the APIs for performing peer-to-peer connections with Wi-Fi. The primary class you need to work with is WifiP2pManager, which you can acquire by calling getSystemService(WIFI_P2P_SERVICE). The WifiP2pManager includes APIs that allow you to:
Initialize your application for P2P connections by calling initialize()
Discover nearby devices by calling discoverPeers()
Start a P2P connection by calling connect()
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WiFi direct work like this
Turn it on
Thats easy
Ok
Now go to your laptop open up wirless networks and do a scan
and hello there is a Phone now showing up click connect
now on your phone a message will pop up saying a computer is tring to connect and asking you to say ok or cancel
say ok
Now your laptop is connected
Now open up xplorer on your laptop click networks and you will have two showing and your phone will be one of them double click on the phone this open up the phone just like in mass storage mode
Now to go the other way eg phone to pc that is the tricky bit
as the stock brouser sucks on android
You need es file exploer and do a lan scan and the laptop will show as a name click it and a message will show on the laptop or it will just open up the shared folders section
It only works on windows 7
for all its the old Ad hoc idea made simple
Northern, that didn't work for me, but my PC doesn't has got WiFi direct, so that might be a problem.
Anyways, I tried to use WiFi direct with my bother's SGS2, and we weren't being able to get it working properly. I tried the Android WiFi direct demo app, which was able to connect using WiFi direct, but I wasn't being able to send photo's. The S2 had an extra menu for configuring WiFi direct(TouchWiz)
Anyone that has got WiFi direct working on his Galaxy Nexus?
Is there any apps based on wi-fi direct?
neolee said:
Is there any apps based on wi-fi direct?
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Not yet, working on it
same problem ...
Sent from my Samsung GNexus <3
It is very sad, that Google didn't finished it yet Is it so hard to make it work for us ? From my point of view we have been cheated
U HAVE TO USE 3TH PARTY APPS
FileExpert on the market does it
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Well file expert needs an access point in order to transfer files and the phone that you want to transfer file must have file expert too.. which is just wireless sharing not wifi direct though..
My Sony Bravia got WIFI Direct too. I tried to connect my GN with it. TV did find the phone. Connected too. But then just kept dropping off the connection.
Did anybody tried it out with a TV?
I noticed it on my sister's GS2, tried it out, her phone can see mine, but i can't seem to find the wifi direct settings for my gnex.
xXQuakeXx said:
Well file expert needs an access point in order to transfer files and the phone that you want to transfer file must have file expert too.. which is just wireless sharing not wifi direct though..
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yes.... no wifi direct on file expert...
maverickrulz said:
My Sony Bravia got WIFI Direct too. I tried to connect my GN with it. TV did find the phone. Connected too. But then just kept dropping off the connection.
Did anybody tried it out with a TV?
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I noticed it on my sister's GS2, tried it out, her phone can see mine, but i can't seem to find the wifi direct settings for my gnex.
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as you can see, google/android gave us the api, but not the interface to manage this...
but released a piece o code to compile a demo app 'wifi direct'.... i do not have other wifi direct enabled device... and i don't tryied this yet... but, here is the sample:
https://www.box.com/s/728c598a466c6822cc94
let me know if it work (p.s. not compiled by me... i only found it on the web )
Hi, I currently have my FTV connected to my router using a wired connection. I tried to make a wireless hotspot using FTV by using the Wifi Tether Router app. It works fine. I can see the access point and I can connect my laptop and my IPhone to it and surf the internet without any issues.
The problem starts when I connect FTV to my router using the build in wireless card. At this point, if I enable the router (through the app), it disconnects my outgoing wireless connection from FTV to my outside router. The hotspot is ON and working, I can connect to it fine with my laptop, but of course, its useless as there is no outside connection.
My question is, is this possible? Using the internal wireless infrastructure in FTV to both act as a software router (through the app or any other app) and also use it for my outgoing connection to the WAN. Can it do both simultaneously? If possible, does anyone have any suggested settings for this app (Wifi Tether Router)
If no one has any experience with this app, is there other app that makes this possible, paid or free? Thanks.
You only have one radio which can either be used as a client or access point.. But not both at the same time.
This works on phones as it uses the GSM or CDMA radio for the wan and the WiFi for lan.
Ok, thanks. If it helps, I have a USB hub connected to FTV. My wireless keyboard and mouse combo is hooked to that and works. I have a Wireless USB adapter from CompUSA (the kind you plug into a desktop to get wireless capability) which I can use by attaching to the USB hub. Can that somehow be used to accomplish this? I know I can always buy a Wifi as WAN router like CradlePoint, but curious if this can be done through FTV.
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? If so, how? I have the StickMount loaded and I can browse through another storage USB through ES File Manager. Probably not related, but thats the setup I have now.
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Ok, thanks. If it helps, I have a USB hub connected to FTV. My wireless keyboard and mouse combo is hooked to that and works. I have a Wireless USB adapter from CompUSA (the kind you plug into a desktop to get wireless capability) which I can use by attaching to the USB hub. Can that somehow be used to accomplish this? I know I can always buy a Wifi as WAN router like CradlePoint, but curious if this can be done through FTV.
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? If so, how? I have the StickMount loaded and I can browse through another storage USB through ES File Manager. Probably not related, but thats the setup I have now.
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Doubt there are drivers for a USB WiFi dongle.
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which tethering app did you use exactly?
The Wifi Tether Router. I can't post links yet.
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Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? .
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This is what I'd try. I'd look to see if other Android STBs can run an external wireless card and if so, try to find the cheapest one with the same wifi chipset.
The problem is going to be in telling the OS to use one adapter for uplink and one for hotspot duty. In theory it's possible, in practice - well, keep the cost of the second dongle below 30 bucks and tell us your findings.
Here's a device some Ouya folks use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4
that link is to the refurb, new they're just north of 50. Here's a similar one that goes new for 25-35
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
Basically, you configure it (connected to a PC) then you connect the device to the ethernet port on your fireTV, it acts as a bridge to the wifi network over the ethernet, so potentially you could then use the wifi onboard as your access point.
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
IMHO if your gonna drop $ might as well by an access point.. They can be had for cheap and you won't be tying up your firetv handling network traffic.
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Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a shot in the near future.
I am sorry, I missed the last line, don't understand what you are saying there... Thanks.
dbdoshi said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a shot in the near future.
I am sorry, I missed the last line, don't understand what you are saying there... Thanks.
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Just that in your initial post, you describe running ethernet to your fire and also getting the wifi to work as a hotspot.
Since you'll still be delivering network to the fire ethernet port, this setup will look to the fire as if you've run ethernet to it all the way from your router, and it ought to work just the same.
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Just that in your initial post, you describe running ethernet to your fire and also getting the wifi to work as a hotspot.
Since you'll still be delivering network to the fire ethernet port, this setup will look to the fire as if you've run ethernet to it all the way from your router, and it ought to work just the same.
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Yep, got it, thanks!!
mastafunk said:
You only have one radio which can either be used as a client or access point.. But not both at the same time.
This works on phones as it uses the GSM or CDMA radio for the wan and the WiFi for lan.
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Not doubting this on FTV, but the matricom mx2 boxes can be used as a wireless hotspot as long as you have it on ethernet.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you might have acess to traditional android settings like the mx2 with a custom rom. Just an idea...
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Not doubting this on FTV, but the matricom mx2 boxes can be used as a wireless hotspot as long as you have it on ethernet.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you might have acess to traditional android settings like the mx2 with a custom rom. Just an idea...
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He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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Lol... I must have read it fast and not paid attention
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He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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That is correct. Works beautifully with ethernet WAN. Works so well that it seems to have a higher broadcast power than my oldish Netgear router. They both sit side by side in my bedroom. As soon as I walk to my garage, my IPhone loses the router, but with FTV it stays connected, with 2 semi circle bars. Also, it chugs along even when FTV goes into sleep mode.
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This is what I'd try. I'd look to see if other Android STBs can run an external wireless card and if so, try to find the cheapest one with the same wifi chipset.
The problem is going to be in telling the OS to use one adapter for uplink and one for hotspot duty. In theory it's possible, in practice - well, keep the cost of the second dongle below 30 bucks and tell us your findings.
Here's a device some Ouya folks use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4
that link is to the refurb, new they're just north of 50. Here's a similar one that goes new for 25-35
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
Basically, you configure it (connected to a PC) then you connect the device to the ethernet port on your fireTV, it acts as a bridge to the wifi network over the ethernet, so potentially you could then use the wifi onboard as your access point.
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
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Instead of a dedicated device you could purchase a chameleon type of device like this.
http://www.amazon.com/802-11b-Porta...r=1-1&keywords=mini+portable+wifi+router+asus
I would love to make my Fire TV an access point. I have a 1st gen and it is also connected via an ethernet cable. Can you tell this newbie how to do it? You mentioned Wifi Tether Router.
Hi
If I understand correctly the wifi will only work if the phone is close by
I read elsewhere that other smart watches will connect directly to wifi
even if the phone is not on
can someone please clarify & will this option come with future updates ?
Thanks
The phone needs to be only in a close range if you're connected by Bluetooth. If you're connected to a WiFi network, the phone just needs an internet connection and can be on the other side of the world.
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The phone needs to be only in a close range if you're connected by Bluetooth. If you're connected to a WiFi network, the phone just needs an internet connection and can be on the other side of the world.
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Thanks Foo
But it doesn't seem to be the case with mine
If I am at home or at work it will connect easily with the Wifi but only if the phone is there
without the phone its saying disconnected , maybe I am missing something
I did a test recently with mine. I left my paired smartphone (Smartphone_A) far out of range of my watch (>100m within a company building). The watch signaled that it is disconnected as it was only connected by Bluetooth before. The smartphone itself was only connected to a 3G network (no WiFi active).
I used a second smartphone (Smartphone_B, obviously not paired with the watch) and activated the mobile hotspot on it. I connected the watch to the mobile hotspot using WiFi and was able to connect to my paired smartphone:
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Watch<---WiFi<--->Smartphone_B<--------->3G mobile data<--------->Smartphone_A
<--------------------receive notifications-------------------------->
I was really surprised that this worked, but it did, so I'm pretty sure, that they do not have to be both connected to the same WiFi or be within a close range.
The question is, why is it not working for you. How do you check, that you are connected to the WiFi?
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I did a test recently with mine. I left my paired smartphone (Smartphone_A) far out of range of my watch (>100m within a company building). The watch signaled that it is disconnected as it was only connected by Bluetooth before. The smartphone itself was only connected to a 3G network (no WiFi active).
I used a second smartphone (Smartphone_B, obviously not paired with the watch) and activated the mobile hotspot on it. I connected the watch to the mobile hotspot using WiFi and was able to connect to my paired smartphone:
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Watch<---WiFi<--->Smartphone_B<--------->3G mobile data<--------->Smartphone_A
<--------------------receive notifications-------------------------->
I was really surprised that this worked, but it did, so I'm pretty sure, that they do not have to be both connected to the same WiFi or be within a close range.
The question is, why is it not working for you. How do you check, that you are connected to the WiFi?
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Strange
with my phone on no problems it shows my house & work network on the watch & connects showing the correct SSID
with phone off I tested it 2 ways 1 clicked on google app (disconnected ) 2 Settings- About -Connection (disconnected )
Brgds
I see the problem, I also may have misunderstood the actual problem.
The status (Google app/about) which you are referring to shows if you're connected to your watch. If your phone is off, the watch can't connect to the phone. Even if the watch is connected to your WiFi, the watch will not go directly to the internet, but will use the WiFi connection to connect to your phone (cloudsync).
You can check the WiFi connection in the WiFi setting. See if the watch was assigned an IP address, if there is one, then you're connected to the WiFi.
I think you expected that the watch can directly connect to the internet and use things like Google now directly. but this is not possible.
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I see the problem, I also may have misunderstood the actual problem.
The status (Google app/about) which you are referring to shows if you're connected to your watch. If your phone is off, the watch can't connect to the phone. Even if the watch is connected to your WiFi, the watch will not go directly to the internet, but will use the WiFi connection to connect to your phone (cloudsync).
You can check the WiFi connection in the WiFi setting. See if the watch was assigned an IP address, if there is one, then you're connected to the WiFi.
I think you expected that the watch can directly connect to the internet and use things like Google now directly. but this is not possible.
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Yes
I checked a few things, my phone was on & the google app works, turn phone off & the google app says disconnected
in wifi settings even with phone off it says obtaining IP then connects so I thought it would connect to google app
so if I understand correctly it wont connect directly to internet but the phone (cloudsync) even if the phone is on or off
Thanks for taking the time to clarify
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so if I understand correctly it wont connect directly to internet
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tclough said:
but the phone (cloudsync) even if the phone is on or off
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it will connect to the phone by cloudsync only if the phone is on.
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it will connect to the phone by cloudsync only if the phone is on.
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Thanks
all seems a bit pointless to have a wifi connection but cant really use it do anything
maybe some apps or updates in the future that will utilize the wifi option ??
Thx
I guess wifi is just helpful if you get out of range of the Bluetooth connection.
At home I often get out of range of the Bluetooth connection so the watch connects to my wifi and reconnects to my watch via cloudsync as long as I stay out of Bluetooth range.
When the watch gets back in reach it connects via Bluetooth again, because this is much better for battery life.
So wifi is only there to increase range but unfortunately not for standalone functionality. I also have a Youtube client and a webbrowser on my watch (just for fun, not really useful). Both apps also need the watch and will not use a direct wifi connection to load videos/websites from the Internet.
My desktop has a hard connection to my network. Will I still be able to use Link To Windows?
I tried this on my Note 8 with the Windows My Phone software and I could never get it to work.
Thanks in advance,
Matt
Wifi only. Most modems have wifi.
You just have to be in the same network. My PC is connected to my network by Ethernet cable and doesn't have a WiFi card. It connects perfectly, including being able to show my phone screen
My Note 8 worked too like this.
i just tested this and I was able to use my pc thats on a wired connection. you have to launch/run an app called "your phone" and give your microsoft account permissions on your note 10.
this absolutely works with wired connections.