So today is the day, after doing good bit of reading to try to study up on the the current crop of potentials for new phone.
Wife and I migrating from H918 LG V20's. Gonna miss the replaceable battery, headphone jack, and SD card slot, but had to do something. Down to about a month now, at least according to the SMS alerts from T-MO.
So picked up 2 LE2125's today. Was looking at few others with the OnePlus 10 Pro as my next choice, but since LineageOS is important in my world view, neither 9 or 10 Pro have SD card slots, and the sands of time running low for my wife's V20, I couldn't wait to see if OnePlus ever got around to releasing a *US* unlocked 12GB/256GB version of the 10 Pro, and anything Samsung is fuhgeddaboudit I don't care how nice their displays might be.
Seems like a pretty bleak time, comparatively, to be looking for a smartphone that covers all the bases. At least compared to features my V20 has. Gonna miss those but if nothing else they might make good network video cameras.
I don't have any illusions about OnePlus/Oppo caring much about what I want in a phone, but I would like OnePlus to know that lack of a 12GB/256GB storage OnePlus 10 Pro US model cost them the sale of 2 OnePlus 10 Pro's today. I was also a bit disappointed in lack of mmWave 5G radios in the 10 Pro while the 9 Pro has n258, 260, and 261 bands, but that wasn't really a dealbreaker for my wife's or my own usage pattern or interests
BTW If anybody at OnePlus/Oppo DOES want to know what people are interested in a phone and you really want to stand out from the rest of the crowd, I bet the market would respond favorably if you put a model out that has an SD Card slot and a 3.5mm headphone jack. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
These are unlocked phones, we have T Mobile service and SIM's and figure if worst comes to worst for some reason and we decide it is time to move on from TMO, the phones' specs seem to support VZW LTE and the current crop of 5G VZW towers as well. 'bout the only other cell provider we would even consider.
Anywho, the adventure begins.
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So today is the day, after doing good bit of reading to try to study up on the the current crop of potentials for new phone.
Wife and I migrating from H918 LG V20's. Gonna miss the replaceable battery, headphone jack, and SD card slot, but had to do something. Down to about a month now, at least according to the SMS alerts from T-MO.
So picked up 2 LE2125's today. Was looking at few others with the OnePlus 10 Pro as my next choice, but since LineageOS is important in my world view, neither 9 or 10 Pro have SD card slots, and the sands of time running low for my wife's V20, I couldn't wait to see if OnePlus ever got around to releasing a 12GB/256GB version of the 10 Pro, and anything Samsung is fuhgeddaboudit I don't care how nice their displays might be.
Seems like a pretty bleak time, comparatively, to be looking for a smartphone that covers all the bases. At least compared to features my V20 has. Gonna miss those but if nothing else they might make good network video cameras.
I don't have any illusions about OnePlus/Oppo caring much about what I want in a phone, but I would like OnePlus to know that lack of a 12GB/256GB storage OnePlus 10 Pro US model cost them the sale of 2 OnePlus 10 Pro's today. I was also a bit disappointed in lack of mmWave 5G radios in the 10 Pro while the 9 Pro has n258, 260, and 261 bands, but that wasn't really a dealbreaker for my wife's or my own usage pattern or interests
BTW If anybody at OnePlus/Oppo DOES want to know what people are interested in a phone and you really want to stand out from the rest of the crowd, I bet the market would respond favorably if you put a model out that has an SD Card slot and a 3.5mm headphone jack. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
These are unlocked phones, we have T Mobile service and SIM's and figure if worst comes to worst for some reason and we decide it is time to move on from TMO, the phones' specs seem to support VZW LTE and the current crop of 5G VZW towers as well. 'bout the only other cell provider we would even consider.
Anywho, the adventure begins.
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I have OnePlus 10 pro 12 256.
In public room, will i hear music, and i have no jack port to my headphones. .
So I bought cheap adapter on Chinese website. Now can I hear music with my adapter connected to phone.
I'm using the LE2125 on Verizon Network better Xfinity. You wont miss anythingi it s all working even 5uW. Only thing to do put your SIM-Card inside and go.
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I have OnePlus 10 pro 12 256.
In public room, will i hear music, and i have no jack port to my headphones. .
So I bought cheap adapter on Chinese website. Now can I hear music with my adapter connected to phone.
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Wow, a US version or Int'l/EU/India or something?
but yea, I resigned myself to having to buy headphone adapter to solve that problem.
The general public gives no care for SD slots or 3.5mm jacks and these phone companies have made clear that they don't wish to cater to the <1% of their market share that comes from people like us who might care (while I wouldn't object to an SD card slot, I would never use a 3.5mm jack and I haven't had an SD slot in so long that I have learned to live without it) so those particular wishes fall on deaf ears unfortunately.
As for your other wishes, you can find what you want on Amazon. Since you're on the T-Mobile network, it's a great fit.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XWHY8ZX/
I get it... headphone jack may not be for everybody. Me, well let's just say that I've got my reasons. For a good long while I was chained to a desk in corporate IT cubeworld, surrounded by noisy people. I needed headphones and a good collection of music to drown out the.... lack of productivity generally going on around me. It was also hard to be very productive in my line of work with music cranked up in my ears, but at least I got to pick the noise, which was never the case there around my desk at the office.
Sadly, in my searching tonight for a USB-C headphone jack adapter, I've not seen one yet with a built-in charger input that you can do both simultaneously (charge AND listen to music at the same time -- or charge and participate in a call over the headset) on a OnePlus, although other brands seem to be able to. So if I ever do have to go back to cubeworld again (hopefully not), especially at the current peanut dispenser, this will surely bite me in hindermost parts at some point, ie, needing to charge AND keep the music going at the same time. Or face the certain peril of my phone having to recharge while the next bagel party is planned or other mindless, non-productive blibber blabber occurs around me...
So I don't see buying a USB-C to headphone adapter as a very good solution. I did find one that looks nice and doesn't cost very much (like a good shrubbery) which I ordered, but I'll have to settle for not being able to charge simultaneously. I'll admit to being a little salty about that.
Musicians are another example of a group of people who tend to prefer wired over bluetooth/wireless monitors/headphones for pretty good reason. Especially drummers. When even what you are hearing in your ears lags behind realtime...
So it has taken me a long time to settle on a phone, lack of headphone jack being among the main reasons. It's funny at least to me how they can justify the real estate for more and more camera eyes and sensors (but still fall so short of truly breathtaking camera performance) -- but on flagship models their marketing people also want you to believe are a pro audio platform, you either have to have bluetooth audio or buy an adapter, because they just don't have the room (or the market demand?) for a 3.5mm headphone jack.
I'm perfectly OK with people not seeing things my way, but in my book, bluetooth cans/IEM's/earbuds are also just something else that have to be recharged when the battery is drained. The marketing people may tell you cords are tangly and a hassle for joggers and other people with active lifestyles -- my take on that is a little diferent. At least when the wired earbuds fall out of your ears, they are still attached to something you can probably grab before they get away from you.
The SD card slot, well it's another thing related to having a decent music collection on my phone and room for backups and various root/mod/etc things handy without using up the device's storage. But with 256GB I will survive. I would not have been able to suffer 128GB though.
These little obsoletions are the sorts of things they call "progress" these days. I tend to have pretty good reasons for knowing what I want. It's just getting harder and harder to find anymore. I'm pretty used to the world going the other way though. It's just really been picking up the pace lately.
But at least I was able to find something well supported by LineageOS and by what I've been reading around, has decent moddability and tools etc.
Hopefully these will last a good long time.
EDIT/PS: I sat down and compared the radio band support of the 9 Pro and 10 Pro, along with coverage bands my current carrier TMO and the only other one we would ever consider switching to supports (if TMO really goes bad somehow, VZW would be most likely escape route but we are not really big VZW fans after many years of customer abuse, why we switched to TMO) . There's not much of difference between 9/10 for bands support really but for those times we do go out and about, those mmWave bands the 9 Pro supports would be useful, and are used/supported by both carriers we care about in our area.
Something like this Y cable is what you would need.
USB c to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter,2-in-1 USB C PD 3.0 Charging Port to Aux Audio Jack and Fast Charging Dongle Cable Cord Compatible with Samsung S21 S20 S20+ Ultra, Google Pixel 4 3 XL… https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GYRH6YM/
I see your argument for 3.5mm, I'm just saying most consumers have moved on to Bluetooth. My Sony WH-1000XM3s have a 30 hour battery life so it would be near impossible to kill them without an opportunity to charge them and I'm plenty happy with the sound quality.
mmWave is largely useless on T-Mobile. I wouldn't make a decision based on that since the coverage is insanely limited. T-Mobile's n41 midband is what you really want.
EDIT: Actually, looks like OnePlus killed the ability to charge and play at the same time in software. It died in 2020 and was still dead in this thread so you may be SOL.
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Yep, bluetooth may be more practical or convenient for others.
It's a shame about the inability to charge and use the headset at same time. But I see this as another example of... well, it could be a lot things. But it wasn't that long ago at all that a simple thing like that would have been a given. Something you could take for granted within a phone's specs or capabilities because, the people defining criteria or design for a phone were not developing in a vacuum. It was just common sense.
Over the many years I have been paying attention and participating in technology at work and at play, there seem to be less of those "no brainer" type of givens. As if the people designing things don't ever use them, and aren't listening to people who do use them.
Great example, totally unrelated but it really reinforces the point, at least to me. Our car is a Hyundai SUV with an "ultimate" package of features, trim, etc. One of the most insane, ridiculously stupid things I have ever seen in the interior passenger compartment of a car is the simulated wood trim the dashboard of this SUV is festooned with, from left to right.
Some genius at Hyundai, or a whole team full of them, probably all with college degrees in marketing, sociology, or business decided that the top of line model of this SUV needed to have a super high-gloss finish on all of the interior imitation wood veneer trim. In their minds, this is probably the pinnacle of bling - I can almost hear them saying "ooooh, shiney!" This was their idea of luxury.
The reality of the matter is quite different, however. As the owner and driver of this vehicle, I dread driving on sunny days when the sun will reflect off the dashboard AND BLINDS ME WHILE I AM DRIVING. Right through my sunglasses sometimes.
Of course I am aware of this and it seldom catches me off guard. But it is inevitable that circumstances will (mis)align from time to time.
Anybody who had any sense would have never put high gloss finish on anything around the dashboard on the interior of a motor vehicle. Nobody in the 60's did. (I used to work on old classics)
But if you asked them why they thought high-gloss imitation wood veneer on the dashboard was a good idea, they would probably have several reasons that would make sense to a lot of people. People who don't have to drive one of them every day....
By the time we realized this was a problem it was too late, the car was ours and the paperwork was signed.
There used to be a lot more things you didn't have to research or think about so hard when you were shopping.
Sure do miss the good old days.
PS: The mmWave support of the 9 Pro wasn't really a make or break feature for us, we aren't out and about all that much anyway even if they do have a bunch of those towers in the (2nd largest in the US and fastest growing) metro area we are kind of stuck living in right now. Just that we might actually get some use out of it from time to time. I *KNOW* I'll definitely make use of the extra storage on the 9 Pro than can be had in a US market 10 Pro model.
I came close to choosing one of a few Motorola unlocked models that were semi-interesting but none of the ones with some attractive specs really quite did it for me. There was always something that killed it for me, like the problems so many reported with green screen tinting on many of the edge models. Or the models that might have had other desirable features and compatibilities, but only supported one carriers tower coverage very well instead of 2 strong players around here.
I know a lot of people aren't really interested in many of the same things I am -- but the case can be made that what a lot of people don't know or realize is how much of what they think THEY want is actually due to marketing and media influence and manipulation -- people TELLING you what you want and how to think -- and how afraid so many -- manufacturers and consumers alike -- are afraid to take even the tiniest of risks and being the nail that sticks out -- everybody is afraid they'll get hammered.
In the end, originality and thinking for one's self become bywords and, oh my goodness, nobody wants to be accused of being "UNSCANNABLE!!!!" (Idiocracy, 2006) or going against the grain. And so it's a lot easier for a lot of the lemmings to end up in a pile somewhere down there below, just outside of public awareness and the news cycle/drumbeat.
i won't apologize for thinking that (proverbially, continuing along the Idiocracy story line) using Brawndo for everything but flushing the toilet with is just stupid. If that's how everybody else wants to go, OK fine, but I really shouldn't have to go to the toilet to get plain old water for the things people used to use water for when more things in life "just worked".
I just wish I had better choices. I don't see that many of the choices being offered these days are coming from people who think about things very much, or know how to plan and execute well.
Anyway, enough of the blabber, I am actually looking forward to getting started with our Oneplus 9 Pro's. I haven't even broken the seal on either box yet - but trying to line up all the info I can to get a quick early backup of the devices before I do much.
Appreciate the conversation!
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I have had an iPhone for the past year, and couldn't be happier. However, I recently came across an idea that makes a huge difference in how you use your iPhone, and only costs $39.
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Does not seem like a big deal, but I bought one of these docks for my phone, a car adapter, and a stereo cord, and mounted them in my car. Now, I just sit down, set the phone in the dock, and my music starts playing through the speakers. The phone starts charging. So, I spend a lot more time using the phone because its not a hastle to hook it up.
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You might not have realized this but this forum is WM Devices specific. No one here talks about Iphone's unless is is an Iphone skin or app or something for WM Devices.
You need to search for Iphone specific forum - You might find more people interested in this even though there are likley some XDA members who own IPhone's as well.
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Also - The Iphone Dock is nothing new or special either. It's a shame you only discovered it until now? There are tons of different docking stations for Iphones and WM Devices on the market for almost every device. A simple google will yield results.
Hhhmmm, Hey Hotrod, don't you grow suspicious of this guy that has 1 post, and said post is to expose the high virtues of a "new" product that is sure to rock the world...
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Hhhmmm, Hey Hotrod, don't you grow suspicious of this guy that has 1 post, and said post is to expose the high virtues of a "new" product that is sure to rock the world...
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Yes I suppose it does seem suspicious - "Product pusher" "Advertisement", However, he may also just be very young and not realise what kind of forum he was in. I like to keep an open mind about people; however, I will keep my eye on him so see what his other posts are like (if he ever comes back).
My apologies. I didn't think this was a new product, I just hadn't seen anyone else use it this way. My friends that have iPhones use car chargers and fm transmitters to use their iPhone in their car. I started out doing this, but found that most of the time it was too much trouble on a short trip. I saw one guy online that went so far as to make an RTV rubber mold of his iPod and made his own dock in his car (this was when they first came out).
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That's cool man. I never actually thought of using a docking station in the car before. It would be very conveniant as long as it was secure enough. Pop the device in and then remove it when exiting the car. My set up is relatively simple as well. I have one plugin for power to my device - everyting is transmitted to stereo using the devices bluetooth and Motorola t505 to transmit to FM Stereo of car. No clutter of wires this way.
I'm looking at picking up a used Galaxy Tab S 10.5. I was planning to use it mostly as an E-reader for my morning commute and to view pictures from SD media / browse the web. After looking around this tablet seems like the best bang for my buck used. I've been considering both at a T-mobile variant, but I'm also considering Sprint, since I am on one of their MVNOs. Are all US providers using T807?
Just wondering what I should look out for, and how to check them out. Here's some things I can think of, but not sure if they exist or not:
Worn charging port.
Battery issues
Manufacturing defects.
Boot loops. ( If non stock upgrade? )
ESN
Locked Bootloader / Carrier Locking
T805 vs T807
etc.
Anybody have a list or reference of things to look out for with this model, possibly how to check it out?
Also wondering about the differences between the versions. It appears that there are some basebands available. Then http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/t705-marshmallow-bootloaders-t3477462 . Then can a T805 be flashed to a T807 and vice versa, maybe for international travel?
The T807 has an locked bootloader so you cannot flash any roms or maybe even root, So the T805 would be the one to buy, but do you really need cell as it uses battery power, if not get the T800.
If the T8XX looks physically OK, and runs OK, the battery is the main thing to look at, But replacement battery are quite cheap at from $10 if you can fit it yourself, it looks easy in YouTube video`s
John.
That's too bad nobody has figured out how to unlock the bootloader since the device has been around for quite awhile. It looks to be around a factor of 2 times more expensive when I look for a 805 vs 807. I do think it's useful to have a cellular available as an option. But you have made a good point.
The 10.5 Tab S is still slightly too heavy for web browsing or ebook reading if you need to hold it in your hand all the time (it's like 450grams). I mean, it sure works a lot better for this purpose than any Microsoft Surface tablet, which are really thick and heavy for a tablet, but lighter tablets exist, for example Tab S2.
And S has a wide screen, which is less optimal for ebook or web browsing. For these reasons, I'd look for the smaller 8 inch Tab S which weights under 300grams, or more preferably for a Tab S2 model.
Since its an OLED, look out for burn in.
Worn charging port. and battery issue. Beside that they are quite tough. This is why i refrain from testing too much, the USB port is not made of super steel, it's starting to talk to me saying : give me a break !
Have a look at the magnetic microusb adapters, they just clip in, I have one on my T800 and it works great, no more port wear.
There are a few different brands available, also different widths if you use a case, the link below is just an example.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/WSKEN-XCable-Performance-Compatible-Smartphones-Silver/dp/B00XJQHBOA
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Worn charging port. and battery issue. Beside that they are quite tough. This is why i refrain from testing too much, the USB port is not made of super steel, it's starting to talk to me saying : give me a break !
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I ended up purchasing a T807P, since I will be able to use it with my wireless provider. Thanks for the feedback. The magnetic charging cable seems like a great idea. Looking forward to the arrival of my tablet.
Anybody using theirs in car for navigation? Any mount recommendations?
Wireless is the future. And its true that wireless headphones are making it main stream. But it is a drastic step that Apple took with its all new AirPods? These are definitely not the first wireless earbuds in the market, but Apple made it look worse by removing the traditional headphone socket. Is it worth the change, lets find out!
Before we get onto the review! Lets talk about the science behind it! Apple is planning to revolutionize the wireless technology with its W1 chip!... Like the A-series chips that powers your iPhone or the iPads, the w1 custom apple designed silicon holds a standard Bluetooth 4.1 streaming technology, that tends to have a sophisticated syncing between the two earpiece, the dock and the audio source. Its effeciency is no questionable. And the best part is that the AirPods can pair with any android device. But you wouldn't be able to use the infrared functionality.
Talking about the design, that's where apple went wrong. One of the biggest critics that the device was encountered with, was that how easy is to loose any one of the pair. This issue was faced with most of the airpods users. I wasn't able to get them stay in my ears for a long period of time. This isn't something new, I had the same issue with its predecessors too. The problem is that, Apple just forgot that not all the ears are of same size. The only difference I found in the design aspect between your traditional wired earphones and the new airpods is that the traditional ones are a bit more round, whereas the airpods have been polished down a bit. Which leads to a very small amount of comfort difference.
And trying not to be harsh, but it really looks like a toothbrush in your ears. Apple tends to justify this design with the technology aspect, it seems that the lengthy end for recieving the audio is for better quality. But rather i would prefer a decent reciever and a earbud not being that long. I truly believe a good wireless earbud should be well known for its grip to stay in the ears and definitely shouldnt look ugly.
That being said, ignoring the design part. There is a lot that I like about the airpods. Being the first fact...is that the airpods do sound great. And there is a significant difference between the normal Ear-pods and the AirPods. The bass is noticeable and the streaming is quite perfection. Such that audio distortion doesn't happen even at the highest volume. And secondly you also get full access to all of the cool sensors and features on iOS. For instance, when listening to music, on taking one earbud out will pause and when you place it back it will resume. You can also double tap the outside of the earbud in order to access Siri.
Round the device you can see few dots. Among them The most innovative aspect of the device is that, while playing music.. popping one airpod out of the ear will pause. And you can either resume or restart using the music app.
This is a tremendous mark by Apple. by making its first step towards a truly wireless future. Connecting to an iOS device is as simple as tapping a card that pops up on your device. And the best part is that when you connect to one device it also connects to every other device on your iCloud account. The one hectic thing about using siri, is that most headphones let you change volume or songs with gestures and buttons. With the AirPods, you have to either dig your phone out or double-tap on the bud, wait for Siri then, say “Next song,” and again wait for Siri to confirm.
Which is definitely not the easiest way to skip to another track. The solution could be a simple software update. That can fix this issue.
While audio quality isn’t one of the AirPods' best attributes, but the battery life certainly is. Apple claims five hours worth of life per charge, though it tends to drop out a bit on heavy usage. Five hours might not seem that impressive, but you also have to take the charging dock into account, that can fully charge the airpods about five times. Which gives a further of 24 hours Life span.
Lets be honest, nobody is gonna get the airpod hoping for some good sound quality. If that's the case. You can opt for a wired ear-pod. Which definetly will sound the same. Considering the small form factor of the earphones, the amount of tech inside is incredible. When looking at other wireless earphones on the market, it's clear to see that Apple has succeeded where others have failed and that's resistance over connectivity. I never had my airpods get disconnected. This definitely a clever piece of tech with some considerably bad design. If you are up for some amazing sound quality, then this is not what you are looking for, because there is still room for lots of improvement.
Either way thanks for reading.
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Hello,
I'd like to ask your opinions guys.
After 5 years my m7's touch panel died and I'm in the struggle of buying a new phone. The problem is that I don't have the money to buy a flagship right now and HTC's policy is kind of weird now anyways, even though
I like the Sense ui and the build quality of their phones .
My budget is around $220 / 180 Euros
I was thinking of a refurbrished/ old stock m9.
It has boomsound, a headphone jack and none of that usb-c gimmick.
Sadly the support for it is dying and I'm not sure if it will ever get a stable Oreo mod.
The second option would be a new HTC 10 Evo (aka Bolt).
It has a bigger screen and battery.
And will get an official Oreo update in Q2.
The problems with it are that, the XDA part of it is almost dead with no custom roms.
It has no boomsound speakers.
Also it has that pesky usbc with the lack of 3rd party jack adapter support, like every htc phone nowadays (Why I hate it? because every headphone breaks at the connector end. So either I'm stuck with htc headphones, or I buy their overpriced usbc dac every year or so. I usually use sennheisers or sony mdr-s and if the cable breaks I just solder a new jack on it.) + I can't use my rode lav with it.
I was also thinking about a used htc 10, but I'm not really fond of used phones + where I live most of them are a bit overpriced.
What I need is a good daily driver, which still can last an extra 2 years or so. I'm not much of a gamer, but I'd like to stay with a Snapdragon cpus and metal bodies
Let me hear your opinions guys. Thanks for the answers and suggestions.
I think the m7,m8 and m9 were HTC's finest,from there they went downhill. The only decent phones you can get are the 10 and 10evo,maybe A9. But the things yiu mentioned are the drawbacks. I use the HTC bolt,i like it. I'm getting used to the little perks.
I just finished reading this review on the Galaxy S21 FE and noticed it doesn't have a headphone jack. I'm okay with that as long as the USB-C port supports analog audio output to cheapo USB-C earphones.
So my question: Is analog audio output via USB-C supported? Or is this device like a Pixel phone and requires more expensive earphones with a DAC chip built into them?
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Only digital. The dongle has to have a DAC in it or whatever audio device you are connecting it to. The Samsung one works fine except it's hanging from the bottom of the phone... not good.
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Only digital. The dongle has to have a DAC in it or whatever audio device you are connecting it to. The Samsung one works fine except it's hanging from the bottom of the phone... not good.
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Thanks. Yeah, that's a deal breaker. I really like using cheapo earphones at work, whether they be 3.5mm jack or USB-C (analog). Having DAC outside the phone is cumbersome and Bluetooth earphones are too much fuss.
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Thanks. Yeah, that's a deal breaker. I really like using cheapo earphones at work, whether they be 3.5mm jack or USB-C (analog). Having DAC outside the phone is cumbersome and Bluetooth earphones are too much fuss.
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The Buds+ sound better or as good as cheap earbuds or phones. They're light, don't come out and have a long run time.
Not perfect but pretty good... Samsung should have kept the 3.5 jack.
Dropping the SD card slot in their recent flagship phones lost them my purchase. Got another new Note 10+ instead.
In 2-3 years if they continue to chase Apple... they are dead to me.
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The Buds+ sound better or as good as cheap earbuds or phones. They're light, don't come out and have a long run time.
Not perfect but pretty good... Samsung should have kept the 3.5 jack.
Dropping the SD card slot in their recent flagship phones lost them my purchase. Got another new Note 10+ instead.
In 2-3 years if they continue to chase Apple... they are dead to me.
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I agree. This whole 3.5 jack non-issue is proving to be the most frustrating "progress" that manufacturers have made. Let's not forget that at first, the sole reason that Apple did this was because the jack "did not fit". Apparently all other manufacturers realized the same thing although they have no problem in making phones bigger than 6.7 inches. Nowadays it's just an excuse to sell expensive gear to people and these wireless buds do not solve the problem. I have perfectly good headphones that do not require charging and that do not fall out of my ears but I cannot listen to them no matter what I do. Dongles are crap quality with background noise and there's nothing you can do about it. It's funny but a few years ago, you actually felt that phones were capable of doing everything but now... not so much.
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I agree. This whole 3.5 jack non-issue is proving to be the most frustrating "progress" that manufacturers have made. Let's not forget that at first, the sole reason that Apple did this was because the jack "did not fit". Apparently all other manufacturers realized the same thing although they have no problem in making phones bigger than 6.7 inches. Nowadays it's just an excuse to sell expensive gear to people and these wireless buds do not solve the problem. I have perfectly good headphones that do not require charging and that do not fall out of my ears but I cannot listen to them no matter what I do. Dongles are crap quality with background noise and there's nothing you can do about it. It's funny but a few years ago, you actually felt that phones were capable of doing everything but now... not so much.
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I totally get why the removal of a space consuming century old standard 3.5mm jack happened, but why the removal of internal DAC for analog audio out via USB-C? I like to have earplugs which can dangle from my shirt while I'm not talking on my phone. I used Bluetooth for a while but they got neglected because I always forgot to take them out of my toolbag and charge them. Also, they couldn't dangle from my shirt because of the no wires thing. How much extra does it cost to manufacture a phone with internal DAC via USB-C?
I have no idea honestly. Whenever I try to think of a logical answer, it always boils down to marketing and reducing costs of manufacturing while also making more money from accessories. They are trying so hard to push these wireless buds to customers that they would do anything so that we spend more money on them or on the accessories for wired headphones. Just look at the S21 FE, the pre-order came with buds included. The new P50 PRO from Huawei, also pushed the wireless earphones with it's offer. And people still hate these dang things but somehow they don't care. At this rate I'm going back to physical mp3's )
Give Samsung tech support some feedback on how you're loving it all.
Trust me it will make you feel better...
The last rep hung up on me and no I wasn't cursing.
Mission accomplished☠