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I have the Samsung Factory Unlocked version of the S20+ (model SG-M986U1).* This means the phone is not carrier-specific, it works on all carriers (CDMA, GSM) and supports both millimeter wave (Verizon 5G Ultra Wide UW) AND lower frequency band 5G (usually called Sub 6).* The 5G UW super fast network is typically only available in highly populated areas (cities) because it that frequency signal doesn't travel very far and is easily blocked by buildings.* However you will notce the Verizon 5G coverage map shows 5G as being pretty widespread across the country.* Most of that is their Sub 6 5G Network which was launched in mid October 2020.* The 5G Sub 6 network, to my understanding, is using some of the same frequency bands as 4G so essentially it's really an amped up 4G signal using what is called Dynamic Signal Sharing (DSS)*(A lot of people don't understand all this.)*
I'm curious if there's anyone on the forums with a factory unlocked version of the S20 (typically the model number I think has a U at the end instead of VZW) can confirm if their phone shows a 5G icon when you are in sub 6 5G or does it show "LTE+"* I read somewhere the unlocked phones show LTE+ because technically that is what Sub 6 band 5G using DSS really is and 5G in that case is more of a marketing term.* Because different carriers use different terms for different networks, the factory unlocked phones can connect to all the different 5G networks but they can't accomodate all the different marketing terms.* I'd also be curious if when connected to the millimeter wave 5G in the cities if these factory unlocked phones show the "UW" designation which is bascially a Verizon marketing term, or if the phone just shows "5G".
There was also an article that talked about these phones needing a software update to use 5G and supposedly the updates were pushed out right after Verizon announced their Sub 6 5G network launch in mid October. But the author wasn't sure if the Factory Unlocked non-carrier specific models would receive the necessary update. Considering Verizon and Samsung just signed a 6.5 Billion Dollar agreement for SAMSUNG to further build out their 5G network, I would be very surprised if it were the case the factory unlocked models didn't get the update.
My S20+ model SG-M986U1 is showing Service Provider SW Ver. SAOMC_SM-G986U1_OYN-VZQ_QQ_0027 wondering if that's the 5G compatible version?
The other thing is a lot of people just swap SIM cards when they get a new phone. With 5G in most cases, if your SIM card was issued may months ago, you need to go into the carrier store and have them give you a new 5G compatible SIM card. I honestly can't remember if my phone was showing LTE or LTE+ before and after SIM card change. I tested the bandwidth after the change and in a strong signal area got 60mbit download but I didn't have a pre-SIM swap test in that area to compare to unfortunately.
Well I feel like I'm going in circles but now found a Reddit thread that confirms what I originally suspected.
The Factory Unlocked (model ending in U1) S20 phones apparently have not got the update from Samsung yet to allow sub 6 5G connection. But there is a hack in that you can change the carrier network code to ATT even though you are on Verizon and it enabled the N5 band which is what Verizon uses for their "Nationwide 5G" To do this you dial *#272*your IMEI number# Then select ATT and Install and change network code only. Phone will reboot and now you will see 5G UW symbol.
I tried the CSC change on my factory unlocked S20+. I ran three successive bandwidth tests on bandwidthplace.com before and after the change so 3 times on VZW and 3 times on ATT. As others have alluded to the LTE DSS Sub 6 Flavor of Verizon 5G is on average about the same speed as 4G LTE+. So I just turned it back to VZW and will wait for the update from Samsung. I'm surprised a month and a half later it still hasn't got the update to allow N5 band on Verizon.
I'm also wondering is the S20 always show 5G UW when connected to any 5G including sub 6 5G and not actual millimeter wave ultra wide 5G? Or is that just a side effect of "spoofing" the ATT carrier code when actually on a Verizon network IMEI?
Hello Jazee, this is my first response to anyone on xda, and I know that by now you probably have your answer I notice this is an old post. I have an unlocked Samsung s20 5g. And depending on where I am, it says 4g let, and when I'm closer to the city, or hold my leg right(I live in the country), my phone shows 5g. It's shown lte+ before. I think it depends on your carrier. Some I've noticed share 4 and 5g lte simultaneously depending on the current speed. As you mentioned earlier, 5g signal doesn't put up a big fight when it sees a tree or building. Anyways, that's my 2 bits worth, hope this helped. BTW, lte+, when I get that, it is pitiful. Nothing like either 4g lte or 5g lte.
I'm currently on a 5G network. However I do not have the option to choose the 5G network as my preferred network. The same SIM when enter edin my Xiaomi 5G phone has the 5G option and is able to connect to a 5G network. I am using the US Unlocked Version of the Razr 5G overseas. Is there any codes, or setting, (or perhaps unlocking of the bootloader _that would allow the 5G setting to appear? //// For example when i enter my t-mobile US pre-paid sim the 5g option appears in the menu. I think there is a software element here blocking the option.
It may have to do with carrier preference wether to allow it or not. I am using the Google Fi e-sim and I watched options vanish after it was added, I can't turn off 5g, so I guess I'm stuck with that.
It's probably provisioning as a Sprint only device on Google fi with esim, you may have to get a physical SIM card to be able to use the T-Mobile network and 5G.
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It's probably provisioning as a Sprint only device on Google fi with esim, you may have to get a physical SIM card to be able to use the T-Mobile network and 5G.
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With Google fi it always defaults T-Mobile if it is not a Fi approved phone. I did find that going to *#*#4636#*#* then phone info and changing the network type would affect being on lte or 5g. Options with NR are 5g and without would be LTE or lower.
I own the european version of the Razr 5G. When I bought it a few days back (not new), it had only up to 4G available in the settings, on Android 10 (and not offering the option to update to Android 11). I tried to reinstall the software manually, which bricked it (only fastboot bootloader accessible, no system installed apparently). So I decided to unlock the bootloader (officially, so bye-bye warranty) to see if the problem could be solved this way. It didn't work better...
So I went to support.motorola.com as it was written on the screen and dowloaded the Rescue and Smart Assistant. That not only solved my brick problem, but also installed the latest Android 11 full firmware when I opted for the "Rescue" mode (about 3GB download).
All this to say that I not only have the latest Android 11 installed, but also the 5G option that appeared in the network settings now! Well, I might have lost official warranty now, but at least I learned some things doing it!
By the way, although I have the 5G preferred option set on, I still can't connect to it (what I can do with my cheap Realme 7 5G phone...) I think it is a known problem here in Europe, as a lot of "5G ready" phones have still to been granted access by the network carriers, or something like that. Well hopefully it will come with the next update.
Edit: I actually can connect to 5G network (guess n28 Band, because the speed is not too great), only compared to the Realme 7 5G phone I'm using daily, the quality of the signal is weaker with the Razr: 2 to 3 bars only, when I get full 5 bars with the Realme. So I guess it's got more to do with the Razr (5G only?) antenna location/quality.
Hey Everyone,
Currently have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 on AT&T, but recently got the notification that AT&T is shutting down their 3G network and my phone will not be usable. Looking at switching to another carrier/MVNO and was considering between the POCO F3 and RealMe GT 5G.
Can anyone recommend carriers/MVNOs where these phones would possibly work on. I know frequency checker/Kimovil provide the compatible bands. But considering both phones don't have Band 71, I just wanted to check if anyone has been able to use these phones on US carriers and if so how did you go about getting the phones activated with the carriers.
Thanks
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Hey Everyone,
Currently have a Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 on AT&T, but recently got the notification that AT&T is shutting down their 3G network and my phone will not be usable. Looking at switching to another carrier/MVNO and was considering between the POCO F3 and RealMe GT 5G.
Can anyone recommend carriers/MVNOs where these phones would possibly work on. I know frequency checker/Kimovil provide the compatible bands. But considering both phones don't have Band 71, I just wanted to check if anyone has been able to use these phones on US carriers and if so how did you go about getting the phones activated with the carriers.
Thanks
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Well I'm Att and I just ordered the Poco f3 a couple of hours ago. So by next week I'll be able to tell you. I was going to go with the real me gt but didn't because the global model can't be bootloader unlocked and that to me means a no go. If I can't root it I don't want it. It's only a little bit better with specs it has the 888 and 65 watt charging which makes me a little jealous but I have to have viper4 android on my phone so I went Poco f3.
What band do you use for 4g lte? I use band 4 and it's never been a issue. I don't plan on 5g because I barely get 4g where I live
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Well I'm Att and I just ordered the Poco f3 a couple of hours ago. So by next week I'll be able to tell you. I was going to go with the real me gt but didn't because the global model can't be bootloader unlocked and that to me means a no go. If I can't root it I don't want it. It's only a little bit better with specs it has the 888 and 65 watt charging which makes me a little jealous but I have to have viper4 android on my phone so I went Poco f3.
What band do you use for 4g lte? I use band 4 and it's never been a issue. I don't plan on 5g because I barely get 4g where I live
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Thanks for the response Techguy, I would be interested in knowing how it works out for you.
Considering that the Redmi Note 5 Global version only has Bands 4 & 5 for 4G, and Bands 2 & 5 for 3G, I believe it is running on HSPA+ on AT&T Prepaid mostly, as I only get the 4G symbol, not 4G LTE.
I did see for the RealMe and Poco F3, most of the 4G bands are supported on GoogleFI, just no 5G.
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Thanks for the response Techguy, I would be interested in knowing how it works out for you.
Considering that the Redmi Note 5 Global version only has Bands 4 & 5 for 4G, and Bands 2 & 5 for 3G, I believe it is running on HSPA+ on AT&T Prepaid mostly, as I only get the 4G symbol, not 4G LTE.
I did see for the RealMe and Poco F3, most of the 4G bands are supported on GoogleFI, just no 5G.
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What 5g band do you need? It has n1,n3, n5, n8, n20 and n28, n41, n77, n78
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What 5g band do you need? It has n1,n3, n5, n8, n20 and n28, n41, n77, n78
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Oh I just meant for GoogleFI, I don't think they have 5G currently not sure, as kimovil says Not Available. For AT&T and T-Mobile, it was 1 of the 3(AT&T) and 1 of the 4(T-Mobile) in terms of 5G bands.
However I'd be interested in knowing how you go about getting this activated on AT&T since it isn't on their Whitelist of phones that they are trying to limit users to.
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Oh I just meant for GoogleFI, I don't think they have 5G currently not sure, as kimovil says Not Available. For AT&T and T-Mobile, it was 1 of the 3(AT&T) and 1 of the 4(T-Mobile) in terms of 5G bands.
However I'd be interested in knowing how you go about getting this activated on AT&T since it isn't on their Whitelist of phones that they are trying to limit users to.
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Im actually getting a free sim card from the government phone through SafeLink but SafeLink is a smaller part of ATT as that's what my sim reads as 4g band Att and I always buy unlocked phones with band 4 and put it in and it works. Nexus 6, S10lite international, moto G4, S7 and S7 edge both all of them same card just insert.
You don't understand they don't whitelist phones they are just saying these ones they know will work with volte and others will to they won't look at every phone. They won't say Poco f3 or realme because they want to sell Samsung and apple not Poco f3. It's money but if it has the band it'll work
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You don't understand they don't whitelist phones they are just saying these ones they know will work with volte and others will to they won't look at every phone. They won't say Poco f3 or realme because they want to sell Samsung and apple not Poco f3. It's money but if it has the band it'll work
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I understand that part, but the above is not entirely true, hence the post. AT&T for example are activating devices based on the IMEI, even if it has the necessary bands they are saying it is not compatible. Some folks have been able to get around this and get them to activate the phone, but some haven't been able to
I don't know how true, but they told me if I were to take the SIM out of my Redmi Note 5, they will not be able to re-activate my phone. I haven't tried this so I can't say if this is actually the case.
It sounds like SafeLink may technically be a MVNO to Tracfone/AT&T, I do know outside of Cricket Wireless, a lot of the MVNOs aren't enforcing what AT&T is doing with their direct account holders. But technically since they are under AT&T's network, this will eventually trickle down, but it is yet to be seen how this will be handled by MVNO operators.
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I understand that part, but the above is not entirely true, hence the post. AT&T for example are activating devices based on the IMEI, even if it has the necessary bands they are saying it is not compatible. Some folks have been able to get around this and get them to activate the phone, but some haven't been able to
I don't know how true, but they told me if I were to take the SIM out of my Redmi Note 5, they will not be able to re-activate my phone. I haven't tried this so I can't say if this is actually the case.
It sounds like SafeLink may technically be a MVNO to Tracfone/AT&T, I do know outside of Cricket Wireless, a lot of the MVNOs aren't enforcing what AT&T is doing with their direct account holders. But technically since they are under AT&T's network, this will eventually trickle down, but it is yet to be seen how this will be handled by MVNO operators.
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Yes I am under SafeLink/TracFone which is subsidies of AT&T. But if AT&T shuts off their 3g network I don't think they will leave it on for the SafeLink people. AT&T doesn't have to activate your phone in America their GSM you might have them tell you that like my brother brought the nexus 6 to Walmart for a straight talk card and the lady said it's Verizon we can't activate it. Well they should have stuck a sim card inside because it works on all 4 carries except sprint and Verizon are CDMA which means your phone does have to be put into their system to work but not with GSM networks like AT&T. Just try it once you have a sim card in the us I don't know if your in the US. They will tell you anything to sell you another phone from them.
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I understand that part, but the above is not entirely true, hence the post. AT&T for example are activating devices based on the IMEI, even if it has the necessary bands they are saying it is not compatible. Some folks have been able to get around this and get them to activate the phone, but some haven't been able to
I don't know how true, but they told me if I were to take the SIM out of my Redmi Note 5, they will not be able to re-activate my phone. I haven't tried this so I can't say if this is actually the case.
It sounds like SafeLink may technically be a MVNO to Tracfone/AT&T, I do know outside of Cricket Wireless, a lot of the MVNOs aren't enforcing what AT&T is doing with their direct account holders. But technically since they are under AT&T's network, this will eventually trickle down, but it is yet to be seen how this will be handled by MVNO operators.
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I just got my Poco f3 and it works fine on ATT/SafeLink band 4. I don't have 5G so I don't know but it did show the 5g in the upper right hand on display but I checked the speed and it was the same as before so I didn't notice anything 30 to 50 mbps is usual. It's a great phone for the money bench of almost 700k on AnTuTu
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I just got my Poco f3 and it works fine on ATT/SafeLink band 4. I don't have 5G so I don't know but it did show the 5g in the upper right hand on display but I checked the speed and it was the same as before so I didn't notice anything 30 to 50 mbps is usual. It's a great phone for the money bench of almost 700k on AnTuTu
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Thanks for confirming. How are you liking the phone so far?
I had an interesting conversation with AT&T yesterday on the whole topic. Their device compatibility system is really cracking on International Phones although as mentioned earlier, this isn't the case with a lot of MVNOs. The Global version of POCO F3 I think supports 6 of the 9 AT&T 4G Bands. But it's good that it's working for you nevertheless.
I think the POCO F3 is fully compatible with T-Mobile's network as well at least it is as per their online device compatibility tool, so that's another good option depending on the area.
Got some time to decide what I'm going to do, but it's good to know that the phone does work on US carriers.
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Thanks for confirming. How are you liking the phone so far?
I had an interesting conversation with AT&T yesterday on the whole topic. Their device compatibility system is really cracking on International Phones although as mentioned earlier, this isn't the case with a lot of MVNOs. The Global version of POCO F3 I think supports 6 of the 9 AT&T 4G Bands. But it's good that it's working for you nevertheless.
I think the POCO F3 is fully compatible with T-Mobile's network as well at least it is as per their online device compatibility tool, so that's another good option depending on the area.
Got some time to decide what I'm going to do, but it's good to know that the phone does work on US carriers.
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Well so far so good, I didn't get it til 3pm today and I think I have Covid or the flu so I have been under the weather. But I ran bench scores and it's flagship level power. It charges faster than I was expecting, 5400mA on ampere when my S10 lite is 4500mA on a 45 watt charger so they make more use of less watts. I love it so far I doubt you'll notice a major difference between the Poco f3 and realme gt 5g. I love flashing custom roms and rooting my devices so if realme won't unlock the bootloader and release source codes to build on that makes the Poco f3 more for me.
I think if you buy a snapdragon 870 device if has the same bands as all snapdragon 870 devices and 888 has the same bands as all 888 because the modem is inside the CPU. I could be wrong I'm going to look into it but I think so.
It's a sweet phone the only difference from a flag ship is it's 1080p screen instead of 1440p and it doesn't have a mega good camera.
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Well so far so good, I didn't get it til 3pm today and I think I have Covid or the flu so I have been under the weather. But I ran bench scores and it's flagship level power. It charges faster than I was expecting, 5400mA on ampere when my S10 lite is 4500mA on a 45 watt charger so they make more use of less watts. I love it so far I doubt you'll notice a major difference between the Poco f3 and realme gt 5g. I love flashing custom roms and rooting my devices so if realme won't unlock the bootloader and release source codes to build on that makes the Poco f3 more for me.
I think if you buy a snapdragon 870 device if has the same bands as all snapdragon 870 devices and 888 has the same bands as all 888 because the modem is inside the CPU. I could be wrong I'm going to look into it but I think so.
It's a sweet phone the only difference from a flag ship is it's 1080p screen instead of 1440p and it doesn't have a mega good camera.
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That's some good info. Yeah can't be too picky with a budget phone, for a budget phone outside of the camera it has a lot of close to flagship features.
How are you finding call quality so far? That's one thing that wasn't that great with the xiaomi redmi note 5, but attaching a headset resolves the issue.
Hope you start feeling better while enjoying your new phone. Feel better.
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That's some good info. Yeah can't be too picky with a budget phone, for a budget phone outside of the camera it has a lot of close to flagship features.
How are you finding call quality so far? That's one thing that wasn't that great with the xiaomi redmi note 5, but attaching a headset resolves the issue.
Hope you start feeling better while enjoying your new phone. Feel better.
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I will have to get back with you on call quality because I do use headphones now. I have the master and dynamics MW08 and there awesome for calls. It's to late tonight to call anyone I'll let you know tomorrow. I can't stand the wait to unlock the bootloader. It takes 168 hours after you start the unlock process so 7 days than I can root and install viper4android
I need unlocked/dual sim. If I buy the UK variant, SM-F926B/DS, will it work on AT&T network? Will I get 5G/LTE? Will it update? Thanks!
It should. The spec sheets for the phone does not show any variance in the radio's and frequencies they are compatible with in regards to where it's sold other than the ROM's with the carrier configurations pre-configured.
Doesnt the US version have a mmwave 5g antenna the UK version doesn't have?
If correct, how would this affect me? Thanks!
I would be very careful. In 2020 I bought unlocked Note 20 Ultra in Czech Republic and brought it to USA to be used on AT&T network. Unfortunately the 5G bands are not compatible and I didn't get 5G at all. Otherwise the phone works fine, you get LTE speeds and little bit spotty coverage. If you can live with that, you will be ok.
I use an international note 10+ n975f in USA on ATT and my line was shutoff last month because of a new company policy that will be fully in effect Feb 2022. Only u/u1 variants will work on their network...must have volte working and be a device provided thru ATT...not imported. I recommend a different carrier.
These phones will keep working on AT&T after the 3G network shutdown
AT&T will shut down its 3G network and require HD Voice support by February 2022. Check this list to see if your phone will make the cut.
www.xda-developers.com
It sucks. They did send me a free note 9, but...I need a new carrier.
Interesting. I’m on an unlocked, dual-SIM, Note 8, N950F which came from Singapore. I don’t remember how long I’ve had it, but I think it’s been around 5 years. It’s not a 5G device, but it is 4G/LTE and supports VoLTE. I think AT&T knows about it because I think I had to provide them with a S/N, M/N, and IMEI years ago. I’d like a 5G device and this one isn’t holding a charge for a full day anymore, but otherwise works fine on AT&T for now. I’d really like to stay with an unlocked, dual-SIM.
Fyi, latest rumors...
The OnePlus 11 might get a downgrade in the US
The OnePlus 11 will reportedly offer slightly slower wired charging speeds in the US versus global models, mirroring the OnePlus 10 Pro.
www.androidauthority.com
It is a Downgrade! Unfortunately..
No wireless charging !
Usb 2.0 in 2023..
Chinese version is 699 $ Usa, on Giztop. If i can buy from Giztop with the same price, yes, european/global version, i will buy.
US version only up to 256gb storage & 80W charging. Ixnay.
I'll only buy International variant- hopefully I can still use it on T-Mobile w\o losing triple 5G carrier aggregation.
I'll prolly trade in 10T(which I never used because 8T working fine & 11 specs were leaked soon after), but keeping its 150W charger.
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US version only up to 256gb storage & 80W charging. Ixnay.
I'll only buy International variant- hopefully I can still use it on T-Mobile w\o losing triple 5G carrier aggregation.
I'll prolly trade in 10T(which I never used because 8T working fine & 11 specs were leaked soon after), but keeping its 150W charger.
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Where did you see the US version will only be 256GB?
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Where did you see the US version will only be 256GB?
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Sorry I missed this. Amazon is co-participating in the Feb 7 Live Launch event, and their listing specs are 80W charging, 256\16gb. Two colors- jade green & moonstone black.
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Sorry I missed this. Amazon is co-participating in the Feb 7 Live Launch event, and their listing specs are 80W charging, 256\16gb. Two colors- jade green & moonstone black.
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Ah ok. I'll order directly from OnePlus. I can deal with slightly slower charging and I usually transfer files via WiFi, so USB 2.0 isn't an issue. I'm nearly full on my 8T, and it would be a deal breaker to move to another phone with only 256GB.
I don't know if it's because my 8T is a couple years old, but despite the charger being 65W, it averages 45W when charging.
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Ah ok. I'll order directly from OnePlus. I can deal with slightly slower charging and I usually transfer files via WiFi, so USB 2.0 isn't an issue. I'm nearly full on my 8T, and it would be a deal breaker to move to another phone with only 256GB.
I don't know if it's because my 8T is a couple years old, but despite the charger being 65W, it averages 45W when charging.
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I just visited OP Store US website and they are offering reservations for up to $500 off on trade-in Launch Day, price will be revealed then.
BUT....only offering 8\128 or 16\256gb models- w\ 100W charger- which BTW they also call Super VOOC. So I have hopes 10T's 150W charger will work appropriately faster on 11- it charges 8T a little faster than its own original charger.
Hopefully they add the 512gb model. 256 model still tempting because of tons of advancements + not planning 11 Pro \ the Alert Slider is back \ display back from 9 Pro is also very tempting: QHD 120hz AMOLED LPTO 3 adaptive refresh down to 1hz...that combined with the new Snapdragon & UFS 4 & LPPDR 5 they say uses up 30% less battery + runs cooler. And will support Triple\Quadruple 5G Aggregation.
I never update phone yearly but there're just too many advancements back to back- w\o Samsung \ iPhone pricing.
Re 8T charging- I only got it 9 months ago but use heavily- charge 2-3X daily- going strictly by charging time, I notice no dropoff. I have a theory that none of the charging apps appropriately measure such high capacities. The numbers shown during charging comparing 8T & 10T- whether on 65 or 150W bricks, don't vary much. You only notice the significant differences in the the actual time it takes (And yes, checked & toggled various system settings)
I have noticed a couple of things:
A. The ubiquitous multiple outlet strips provide less capacity than plugging directly into wall- even with only one item plugged in-
B. As stated before, 10T's 150W brick charges @ bit higher power the 8T. Maybe I'll buy another one as spare.
C. Cable can fray & separate internally if not real careful- this occurred with OP Nord N10. (Even in that state still fast charges various Samsung & LG phones & tablets- shows how far behind all others are behind OP)
The price for 12/256Gb in my country, in Europa 846 Euro... Gtotesque !!!
$799 in the US for the 16/256 version. I've seen some places selling the Chinese 16/512 version for $849. Comes with ColorOS though.
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$799 in the US for the 16/256 version. I've seen some places selling the Chinese 16/512 version for $849. Comes with ColorOS though.
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And won't have the proper bands for US carriers nor will it be whitelisted for AT&T.
It's missing B71 as well as n71 and n25 which means poor performance on T-Mobile. It is likely missing 3.45GHz n77 as well because there's no reason to certify that on a Chinese device and T-Mobile is preparing to deploy that at the end of the year.
It's missing B13 which means no Verizon support. The omission of mmWave significantly impacts many larger Verizon markets too.
It's missing B14, B29, B30 as well as their 5G counterparts and likely is missing 3.45GHz n77 as well as mentioned above but unlike T-Mobile, AT&T has already been deploying this as a number of their markets they can't use the rest of their n77 holdings until 2024 (mine included).
Anyone buying these phones for US use will definitely experience problems.
Looks like it supports these bands:
4G: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28A/66.
5G: n1/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28A/n38/n40/n41/n66/n77/n78.
I have both VZW and TMO. The lack of n260/n261 means no ultra wide 5G for either of those companies. Verizon uses n77 for 5G, but I'm not sure how much they've deployed it. My 8T doesn't have n77 so I can't test.
In my area, I see my phone mostly use 2/5/66 for both VZW and TMO, 13 for VZW and 12 for TMO. Verizon's 5G NSA doesn't seem any better than 4G in my area, but it's fast for TMO (600+ Mbps), however, VZW gets service where TMO doesn't.
I guess I'll hold out for the 11T and hope OnePlus increases storage and adds the mmWave bands.
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And won't have the proper bands for US carriers nor will it be whitelisted for AT&T.
It's missing B71 as well as n71 and n25 which means poor performance on T-Mobile. It is likely missing 3.45GHz n77 as well because there's no reason to certify that on a Chinese device and T-Mobile is preparing to deploy that at the end of the year.
It's missing B13 which means no Verizon support. The omission of mmWave significantly impacts many larger Verizon markets too.
It's missing B14, B29, B30 as well as their 5G counterparts and likely is missing 3.45GHz n77 as well as mentioned above but unlike T-Mobile, AT&T has already been deploying this as a number of their markets they can't use the rest of their n77 holdings until 2024 (mine included).
Anyone buying these phones for US use will definitely experience problems.
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I am NYC and using Verizon, I have OnePlus 11 Chinese version in hand and can confirm 4G works but not 5G, hope once I convert to Oos 5G will work
sunxutian said:
I am NYC and using Verizon, I have OnePlus 11 Chinese version in hand and can confirm 4G works but not 5G, hope once I convert to Oos 5G will work
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What if you force the phone to use 5G? (Dial *#4636#*#* > phone information > Set preferred network type: NR/LTE)
I noticed on my phone with the VZW sim, I had to manually set that, whereas with the TMO sim it was automatic (including other 5G related settings that don't appear under the VZW sim). I also recently updated my VZW sim to rule that out as the limiting factor.
replica9000 said:
What if you force the phone to use 5G? (Dial *#4636#*#* > phone information > Set preferred network type: NR/LTE)
I noticed on my phone with the VZW sim, I had to manually set that, whereas with the TMO sim it was automatic (including other 5G related settings that don't appear under the VZW sim). I also recently updated my VZW sim to rule that out as the limiting factor.
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Yeah I did that, if force NR/LTE you get LTE, if force NR only you get no signal, I just switched to Verizon from t mobile, If I remembered correctly t mobile I do have 5g but not positive
sunxutian said:
I am NYC and using Verizon, I have OnePlus 11 Chinese version in hand and can confirm 4G works but not 5G, hope once I convert to Oos 5G will work
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Yep, that's what I expected. Even further, if you tried to activate new service with that phone instead of swapping your SIM, it probably would get rejected, as Verizon doesn't whitelist phones that lack B13.
sunxutian said:
Yeah I did that, if force NR/LTE you get LTE, if force NR only you get no signal, I just switched to Verizon from t mobile, If I remembered correctly t mobile I do have 5g but not positive
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I had to do this to enable 5G for VZW on my phone to use NR/LTE/...., but I'm still on A11. A12 and A13 OOS should already have it. Perhaps the OP 11 with ColorOS doesn't have the proper configuration to connect to North America 5G networks.
I believe TMO focused on 5G NSA whereas VZW focused more on their UltraWide 5G or 5G SA, which is why my VZW 5G speeds aren't much better than 4G. If I set my phone to NR only, I have no signal, so it seems I'm limited to 5G NSA (NR/LTE).
replica9000 said:
Looks like it supports these bands:
4G: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28A/66.
5G: n1/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28A/n38/n40/n41/n66/n77/n78.
I have both VZW and TMO. The lack of n260/n261 means no ultra wide 5G for either of those companies. Verizon uses n77 for 5G, but I'm not sure how much they've deployed it. My 8T doesn't have n77 so I can't test.
In my area, I see my phone mostly use 2/5/66 for both VZW and TMO, 13 for VZW and 12 for TMO. Verizon's 5G NSA doesn't seem any better than 4G in my area, but it's fast for TMO (600+ Mbps), however, VZW gets service where TMO doesn't.
I guess I'll hold out for the 11T and hope OnePlus increases storage and adds the mmWave bands.
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I thought no more 11s- Pro or T planned.
Anywho, even if I'm wrong about T, dollars to doughnuts they'll downgrade something on it.
I'm so ready for e-Sim, 512gb & beefier battery like being done with their tablet- hopefully that won't cost 1K.
Also ready for OP Fold.