Is there anyone developing for the Kindle Fire 2?
As far as I can see, the answer is no but I'm not sure if you're all just been busy and work and don't have much to post yet.
If there is no dev team(s), or devs at all working towards getting this thing with a working Recovery and ROM, I will most likely put together a team this weekend.
Also, assuming there are devs, may you share any findings you have? Why or why not the recovery is being a difficult process and whatnot.
I will probably put together a team just in case, I just can't make promises until I meet this weekend and see if they want to work on this.
If/when i get a team I will make a thread for it and post any news updates as they happen. I really hope we can all get this thing cracked open soon!
Thank you in advance!
UPDATE!:
I hit reply instead of save, so I lost my post sadly, so bullet points!
-I could not contact the main dev.
-I do not plan on making a full dev team anytime soon.
-Powerpoint45 and Hashcode are making progress, moreso Powerpoint, although eventually it seems Hashcode plans to have a workaround, just no ETA or promises from him, but there is more hope than before!
-I will still help and try and offer advice to any newer people, I am not a dev, but I have a decent amount of experience that would be enough to help new people.
Good luck to all!
I too would like to know this. I don't have much but I would donate what I can to the first dev or team to get us past this locked bootloader.
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LegendaryCatalyst said:
I too would like to know this. I don't have much but I would donate what I can to the first dev or team to get us past this locked bootloader.
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Thanks I'll let you all know what gets decided this weekend. One coder agreed so far but their experience with Android is limited. The main person I have yet to talk to but he is the one that constantly messes with his android devices since android first came out. The issue is that he does not have a kindle fire, so I may have to buy them ones or lend mine to them to get the coding started.
I have been flashing ROMs and whatnot for a couple years, done my vibrant, galaxy s2, and a few others, but have no coding or developing skills whatsoever. I imagine everyone starts somewhere but I don't have the slightest idea where to begin. I would love to learn though. A locked bootloader seems like a steep challenge compared to obtaining root or developing a ROM. I might be wrong in that regard too.
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Depends on how the bootloader is signed. The Motorola Droid and Droid X were relatively easy to crack but other devices may never be cracked without help from the manufacturer.
LegendaryCatalyst said:
I have been flashing ROMs and whatnot for a couple years, done my vibrant, galaxy s2, and a few others, but have no coding or developing skills whatsoever. I imagine everyone starts somewhere but I don't have the slightest idea where to begin. I would love to learn though. A locked bootloader seems like a steep challenge compared to obtaining root or developing a ROM. I might be wrong in that regard too.
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Since this device already has Root, I don't know that the bootloader will be an issue. The Gen 1 Kindle Fire has JellyBean running on it already so it may be a (somewhat) simple task to port that to the Gen 2. I'll have to pull it and see what may be device specific to get things running on the Gen 2, but it can be done. We'll need to first get a custom recovery going to allow the ROM to install.
This looks promising from the Gen 1 forum. Perhaps someone can reach out to the dev and see 1) if he's ok with us using it and 2) if he can help get it going on the Gen 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1399889
A locked bootloader generally means no custom kernels. Kexec is the only workaround (that I know of) other than unlocking, to start a new kernel . Root simply gives su access, it can't, in and of itself provide kernel customization.
Didn't the recovery for the KFHD's get put on hold? The stock recoveries won't usually let you flash anything that's not signed.
I'm not a dev but it seems like porting the KF1 ROM over to the KF2 should be pretty easy. Other than the bootloader, the hardware changes were minor, just bumping the CPU/GPU up one model and doubling the RAM. Again, it all hinges on unlocking the bootloader or reverse engineering the key it's signed with. Anybody have access to Amazon's EC2 system?
Antoine.WG said:
Didn't the recovery for the KFHD's get put on hold? The stock recoveries won't usually let you flash anything that's not signed.
I'm not a dev but it seems like porting the KF1 ROM over to the KF2 should be pretty easy. Other than the bootloader, the hardware changes were minor, just bumping the CPU/GPU up one model and doubling the RAM. Again, it all hinges on unlocking the bootloader or reverse engineering the key it's signed with. Anybody have access to Amazon's EC2 system?
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I just toured google today and made a new friend. He doesn't work on the android side, and that building is the most secure on the campus (That and the google+ are the only buildings regular employees can't enter fully without special permissions)
I am hoping he can introduce me to people on the android side of things and see if they would be willing to offer any insight that wouldn't involve an NDA heh.
LaserChicken said:
A locked bootloader generally means no custom kernels. Kexec is the only workaround (that I know of) other than unlocking, to start a new kernel . Root simply gives su access, it can't, in and of itself provide kernel customization.
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This is true, however the question was around custom ROMS, not kernels. You do not need a custom kernel to run a custom ROM, it's just nice to have the flexability.
Has anyone tried a Kindle fire HD rom? I think the specs are identical except for the screen. I'll do a little research and see what I can do. I would like to see otg working on my son's 2nd generation fire. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
I might make a kf2 root app
tjmack3rd said:
Has anyone tried a Kindle fire HD rom? I think the specs are identical except for the screen. I'll do a little research and see what I can do. I would like to see otg working on my son's 2nd generation fire. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
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That's not quite how it works. I would also recommend to NOT TRY ANYTHING ON THE OTHER KINDLE FORUMS. If you check here, people have posted what works. I believe there is one guide for the basic rooting, and another for the steps on using root to make your Kindle do some decent stuff (new launchers, lockscreens, marketplace, all the good stuff!)
However, the issue with the KF2 is not really getting ROMs on, it's the step before it which is getting a working recovery so we can safely flash ROMs onto the device. Once that's done it shouldn't be hard to get a ROM, and it may be even possible to just use a KFHD ROM without any issues, BUT we need the recovery on here first, and getting around the locked bootloader.
To my all caps warning, just check the Q & A forums to see all the people who tried the recovery, rom, and rooting methods for their KF2. Most end up bricked.
If you are experienced in the sort of thing, go ahead and try at your own risk, just be careful. As you may notice, yes, most if not all (can't remember off the top of my head) of the methods we use to root ARE from the KFHD, so yes, some things do work, but way too many times I read about people that tried to put software that wasn't for the KF2 on it and it ends up bricked. Thankfully people seem to be fixing the bricked Kindles, but it's a very unfortunate experience people shouldn't have to go through.
powerpoint45 said:
I might make a kf2 root app
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Forgot to multi quote :\
This would be great I think! We have the tools so far, it's just that none have been made specifically for the KF2.
Good luck on the app as I'm sure many new KF2 users will appreciate it!
iytrix said:
That's not quite how it works. I would also recommend to NOT TRY ANYTHING ON THE OTHER KINDLE FORUMS. If you check here, people have posted what works. I believe there is one guide for the basic rooting, and another for the steps on using root to make your Kindle do some decent stuff (new launchers, lockscreens, marketplace, all the good stuff!)
However, the issue with the KF2 is not really getting ROMs on, it's the step before it which is getting a working recovery so we can safely flash ROMs onto the device. Once that's done it shouldn't be hard to get a ROM, and it may be even possible to just use a KFHD ROM without any issues, BUT we need the recovery on here first, and getting around the locked bootloader.
To my all caps warning, just check the Q & A forums to see all the people who tried the recovery, rom, and rooting methods for their KF2. Most end up bricked.
If you are experienced in the sort of thing, go ahead and try at your own risk, just be careful. As you may notice, yes, most if not all (can't remember off the top of my head) of the methods we use to root ARE from the KFHD, so yes, some things do work, but way too many times I read about people that tried to put software that wasn't for the KF2 on it and it ends up bricked. Thankfully people seem to be fixing the bricked Kindles, but it's a very unfortunate experience people shouldn't have to go through.
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I burnt out my usb port trying to make a fastboot cable. I tied the wrong pin in... I'm waiting on my replacement. I'm going to try to use the revrom to get the cwm on my kf2 if that works, I'm sure we could get someone to make a touch cwm or twrp for the kfhd. If the kfhd cwm works, we could use the touch cwm/twrp. Perhaps it will need to be modified... perhaps not. I suspect that the cwm won't work perfectly and we need to modify it to use the correct partition table.
I should mention that using my current factory cable, I can get to fastboot. I just burnt out the data pin. I tried to use dd to flash the revboot stuff, but I forgot to do the part where you get past the locked bootloader... instabrick
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I burnt out my usb port trying to make a fastboot cable. I tied the wrong pin in... I'm waiting on my replacement. I'm going to try to use the revrom to get the cwm on my kf2 if that works, I'm sure we could get someone to make a touch cwm or twrp for the kfhd. If the kfhd cwm works, we could use the touch cwm/twrp. Perhaps it will need to be modified... perhaps not. I suspect that the cwm won't work perfectly and we need to modify it to use the correct partition table.
I should mention that using my current factory cable, I can get to fastboot. I just burnt out the data pin. I tried to use dd to flash the revboot stuff, but I forgot to do the part where you get past the locked bootloader... instabrick
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I was trying to make a fb cable earlier today but the connectors were too hard to solder so I need a new cable to work with. I had same idea as u. Trying to boot into a recovery like cwm
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Nvm
you should be able to delete a post...
powerpoint45 said:
I was trying to make a fb cable earlier today but the connectors were too hard to solder so I need a new cable to work with. I had same idea as u. Trying to boot into a recovery like cwm
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I bought one on eBay for £3 including free next day delivery. I'll try to find the link as he was selling lots and it was delivered fast (in UK).
EDIT :
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=140893291002
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Not devving yet, but as soon as we have our own recovery...
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Hello everyone,
I recently signed up for a new Sprint contract and got a free Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini (Sprint model -- SPH-L520) however, everything I can find relates to rooting the GT-I9195 and GT-l9190. All I want to do is root it to be able to run apps that require root, I don't necessarily need a custom ROM loaded on it.
I do know some programming, though the languages I know probably wouldn't help much for this, and consider myself an advanced user of many desktop and server operating systems (Windows, Linux, some BSD). Although I am new to Android I'd like to give it a shot, if it's not too far out of my reach.
I'm really just looking for good starting guides and some tips from the pros. I've done a lot of Googling and researching on these forums but I haven't really found any guides that starts from scratch. I'm am willing to take the time to learn even if it takes a while.
d3x^ said:
Hello everyone,
I recently signed up for a new Sprint contract and got a free Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini (Sprint model -- SPH-L520) however, everything I can find relates to rooting the GT-I9195 and GT-l9190. All I want to do is root it to be able to run apps that require root, I don't necessarily need a custom ROM loaded on it.
I do know some programming, though the languages I know probably wouldn't help much for this, and consider myself an advanced user of many desktop and server operating systems (Windows, Linux, some BSD). Although I am new to Android I'd like to give it a shot, if it's not too far out of my reach.
I'm really just looking for good starting guides and some tips from the pros. I've done a lot of Googling and researching on these forums but I haven't really found any guides that starts from scratch. I'm am willing to take the time to learn even if it takes a while.
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Use kingo root
kc6wke said:
Use kingo root
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I've tried, it fails each time.
Screenshot: i.imgur.com/f5ls9ZZ.png
d3x^ said:
I've tried, it fails each time.
Screenshot: i.imgur.com/f5ls9ZZ.png
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Refer to these websites, maybe they will help you..
http://www.andromods.com/root-unlock/sprint-galaxy-s4-mini-reroot-sph-l520-latest-ota-update.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2533867
CWM Recovery for SPH-L20
kc6wke said:
Use kingo root
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Do you know where I can find the software to install CWM recovery for Galaxy S4 mini SPH-L20?
Please advise
I know this may seem redundant, but make sure you have the correct Samsung drivers installed (reinstall them and restart your pc). Make sure your PC recognizes your phone in debugging mode.
Hey xda, I've researched this on and off and could never find a solution or definite answer.
I've been thinking of doing away with Windows instead of dual booting.
Edit. I should state I'm using Linux, specifically Ubuntu mate.
So my question is: Is there a reliable way to flash stock firmware, specifically on the note 4?
Either by heimdal, or Odin in a VM?
I've tried Odin on vm before couldn't get phone recognized. And can't trust the answers I've found about heimdal, being safe or not. So if someone with some experience and a confirmed solution could help, please.
My primary concern is for the safety of the phone, so if Windows&Odin are the safest, or if other options are risky then please let me know.
Thank you all on xda for all that I've learned here!
I would also like to know the answer to this question. My desktop is an iMac. I have a couple of laptops that are dual boot Win 7/Linux. I too, would like to get rid of all my Windoze machines, if I can find a reliable way to flash ROMS. I hardly ever boot into Windows anymore. Thanks to anyone who can enlighten us.
Have a look at my tutorial: Odin on Linux. Hope this helps!
When trying to flash a combination file, using Odin 3.13.
Also saw the same error with "(pit)" at the end.
This is on an A705W variant. (A705WVLU2ASI5). I was mucking about with an outdated cracked version of Z3X but it didnt list my phone, so I was being a bit hesitant
If anybody here has any thoughts on how to get past this, I would be very grateful to hear them.
I really like the phone. In spite of a few small shortcomings, I think it's a darn nice machine. The screen is big. Bright and clear. And it's quite fast, with a ton of storage. BUT I WANT ROOOOTZ!
Even TWRP, too
So any help.. would be awesome please and thank you too!
wyldnewbie said:
When trying to flash a combination file, using Odin 3.13.
Also saw the same error with "(pit)" at the end.
This is on an A705W variant. (A705WVLU2ASI5). I was mucking about with an outdated cracked version of Z3X but it didnt list my phone, so I was being a bit hesitant
If anybody here has any thoughts on how to get past this, I would be very grateful to hear them.
I really like the phone. In spite of a few small shortcomings, I think it's a darn nice machine. The screen is big. Bright and clear. And it's quite fast, with a ton of storage. BUT I WANT ROOOOTZ!
Even TWRP, too
So any help.. would be awesome please and thank you too!
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Hi, sorry to revive an old thread but did you ever resolve this issue?
I don't have a Z3X Box or anything but I'm trying to flash a combination file but have the same problem.
Phone is a A705FN/DS
I downloaded a PIT file for the A705FN and the message changed from
"Please get the approval to use factory binaries (pit)" to
"Please get the approval to use factory binaries (abl))"which to me means it's doing more than before.
Phone is running A705FNXXU5DUI1
Combo firmware i'm trying to use is COMBINATION_FAC_FA90_A705FNXXU5ATA3_FACFAC_CL16099365_QB28522265_REV00_user_mid_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar
Any advice would be appreciated