Since I don't see that stated clearly and easily accessable, I'd like to share my insight that flashing the Indonesian variant of the firmware indeed changes the CSC to "XID", allowing native call recording with neither rooting nor fiddling with Samkey or other tools.
So far, it runs flawlessly, although it comes at the cost at some additional bloatware aiming at the Indonesian market with mostly can be uninstalled again though (with root access entirely, of course).
Compared to Dr. Ketan's ROM fix which requires root access beforehand and allows call recording independently of the used CSC, the XID one even in conjunction with "rooting anyway" and using his ROM has the advantage of having the call recording menu present in the native calling app which otherwise is missing, leading to an 'a bit nicer and properly integrated accessibility'.
Does Samsung pay work if you use this method?
I cannot say for sure as I don't use it and also had rooted the phone before (not sure if it is now possible to have Samsung Pay running with Knox 0x1), however I can confirm that Samsung Pay is there by default and also Google Pay can be manually added through the Play Store.
I have sm-f926u1 and obviously not rooted because it's not possible on mine. And I'm using the call recorder by skavlex on XDA/Google play store and it works without root on my device and records both sides of the Convo regardless of legality. Just an alternative
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Trying many call recording apps to evaluate if there are anything perfectly working on call recording, particularly incoming voice. as a result, as you may see in the market's comments and some threads on other device at XDA, there seems a bug in Android.
FWIW I can see some efforts on other devices like SGS http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863074, to get this feature working on their device. I'm just wondering if anyone is working on it for arc.
does anyone know about it or is this feature simply working for you?
I don't want to take a way of recording from the mic to get it working, even if it's the only way to go so far.
Hello, like i know, the reason why no one call recorder not record calls from line is the drivers. First of all we shoud wait for the custom firmware, then somebody should write drivers for our phones and integrate them to the firmware, and only after we can record calls from line. All this was made for HTC Desire, Desire HD, and others including SGS
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The reason why none of the recording software work because there is no api in the sdk for that... So you cannot make a software to record inline voice...!!!
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Maybe, but how without api, software "call recording" work perfectly on HTC and Samsung android devices?
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probably they extend an API unofficially since they update Phone apps as well.
This issue is somewhat sensitive since it's relevant to the legal matter, it may be unlikely to get it fixed from google perhaps. I'd like to port their efforts to arc if I can get some kind of information what they have done on their devices.
probably they extend an API unofficially since they update Phone apps as well.
This issue is somewhat sensitive since it's relevant to the legal matter, it may be unlikely to get it fixed from google perhaps. I'd like to port their efforts to arc if I can get some kind of information what they have done on their devices.
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probably they extend an API unofficially since they update Phone apps as well.
This issue is somewhat sensitive since it's relevant to the legal matter, it may be unlikely to get it fixed from google perhaps. I'd like to port their efforts to arc if I can get some kind of information what they have done on their devices.
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Yes because of legal issues, google is releasing such api...
Will have to work on our own to get an api...
After that coding one call recorder software is quite easy...!!!
I wonder what legal issue is that because android is world wide used and I don't think there's any legal issue here in my country to record the line in of my own call/received call.
So the legal issue should meant to be force to use only in USA and some other country who have those issue. While the api that world wide used should have this function so those with out this "legal issue" in there country can use, isn't it ?
Hi there,
Can you please try the app Total Recall Android by Killer Mobile Software for recording calls?
They claim it records calls on Xperia Arc without any modifications or root needed.
I would like to buy this phone to replace a SGS that can record only with 2.2.1 FW...but I would like to know if this realy records bouth sides of the conversation without speaker phone enabled on the actual firmware versions.
Thank you in advance!
I was able to eq/tune the bluetooth audio in my car perfectly using V4A on my last bunch of LG phones that were rooted. I just bought the Pixel 2 XL from Verizon knowing that the bootloader had been locked (WTF Google, why do you allow carriers to do that? - isn't the whole idea of Google phones that they are unadulterated Android?) because it appeared to be the best phone for my other music endeavors (Audio Evolution Mobile multi-track recording).
I saw some mention that it will run if SELinux is in permissive mode. Is there a way to do that manually after each reboot and then enable V4A?
Thanks
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I was able to eq/tune the bluetooth audio in my car perfectly using V4A on my last bunch of LG phones that were rooted. I just bought the Pixel 2 XL from Verizon knowing that the bootloader had been locked (WTF Google, why do you allow carriers to do that? - isn't the whole idea of Google phones that they are unadulterated Android?) because it appeared to be the best phone for my other music endeavors (Audio Evolution Mobile multi-track recording).
I saw some mention that it will run if SELinux is in permissive mode. Is there a way to do that manually after each reboot and then enable V4A?
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The short answer is no. I know you can change selinux with adb, however, V4A needs root to function properly. I definitely agree with you though on the Verizon/Google thing. I'm a Big Red user as well, but haven't purchased a device directly from them in 4 years for the reason you stated. And, unfortunately, it'll likely only get worse! ?
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WTF Google, why do you allow carriers to do that [lock the bootloader]? - isn't the whole idea of Google phones that they are unadulterated Android?
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Just to touch on this, the bootloader has nothing to do with Android itself. The P2XL is still "unadulterated" Android. The Verizon units have the locked bootloader because that was the price Google had to pay in order to get the phone in the Verizon store. AT&T wouldn't have been much better, and the other two carriers aren't large enough to think about.
This "unadulterated" complaint isn't new. The Nexus 6 encountered this in 2014, because models sold in the AT&T store were carrier locked, though the bootloader was unlockable.
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The short answer is no. I know you can change selinux with adb, however, V4A needs root to function properly. I definitely agree with you though on the Verizon/Google thing. I'm a Big Red user as well, but haven't purchased a device directly from them in 4 years for the reason you stated. And, unfortunately, it'll likely only get worse!
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Thanks, good tip on buying from Google next time. I bought this one from Verizon because they knocked $300 off the price and there are 3 other Android users in the family I can pass this one to.
The Pixel 2 XL sound over bluetooth to my car's Pioneer DEH-80PRS is quite good. The highs are clear without harshness, the frequency response is flat. I'm also getting plenty of gain using the supplied dongle with Shure e5c IEM's.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Just to touch on this, the bootloader has nothing to do with Android itself. The P2XL is still "unadulterated" Android. The Verizon units have the locked bootloader because that was the price Google had to pay in order to get the phone in the Verizon store. AT&T wouldn't have been much better, and the other two carriers aren't large enough to think about.
This "unadulterated" complaint isn't new. The Nexus 6 encountered this in 2014, because models sold in the AT&T store were carrier locked, though the bootloader was unlockable.
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As a long suffering Samsung and LG bloatware eradicator I'm grateful that I was able to eliminate the 3 or 4 VZW additions in a few minutes. No NFL running in the background - reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bart claims he is being controlled by MLB until their satellite crashes in the backyard
I use Nova Launcher (although the launcher that came with the Pixel 2 XL seemed OK) so I'm able to tweak the behavior mostly how I want it. I originally started flashing ROMs to get around VZW restrictions placed on the phones. Especially for GPS when I was on Windows phones.
ViPER4Android
You can run Viper4Android without root. However, you need a rooted device to install it.
To install Viper4Android, follow these steps;
1. Download Busybox on your android device.
2. After downloading install Busybox. It will ask permission for root, simply grant the permission. Busybox will be installed on your device.
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As a long suffering Samsung and LG bloatware eradicator I'm grateful that I was able to eliminate the 3 or 4 VZW additions in a few minutes....
I use Nova Launcher (although the launcher that came with the Pixel 2 XL seemed OK) so I'm able to tweak the behavior mostly how I want it....
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Having an unlocked model I genuinely forget that Verizon models install a few apps. The good news is that, as you found out, they're removable.
The P2XL is the first device I own to not have a custom ROM on it, though it is rooted. I, like virtually everyone else who has been here for years, would root Android to add features that were missing. Android 8.1 was the first version of Android to have sufficient features to make a custom ROM unnecessary. There are things I would like to see in a stock ROM such as a reboot menu with the option to reboot into recovery or the bootloader, but those are minor things which apps can compensate for. Like you, I use Nova, not just for its customization features but also because I disable the stock launcher in order to remove the horizontal recents screen.
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You can run Viper4Android without root. However, you need a rooted device to install it.
To install Viper4Android, follow these steps;
1. Download Busybox on your android device.
2. After downloading install Busybox. It will ask permission for root, simply grant the permission. Busybox will be installed on your device.
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Hi Abdul,
I'm looking for clarification. Do the above instructions mean that just by installing Busybox on my VZW Pixel 2 XL which I believe to be "unrootable" that it will temporarily be rooted?
Thanks
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Having an unlocked model I genuinely forget that Verizon models install a few apps. The good news is that, as you found out, they're removable.
The P2XL is the first device I own to not have a custom ROM on it, though it is rooted. I, like virtually everyone else who has been here for years, would root Android to add features that were missing. Android 8.1 was the first version of Android to have sufficient features to make a custom ROM unnecessary. There are things I would like to see in a stock ROM such as a reboot menu with the option to reboot into recovery or the bootloader, but those are minor things which apps can compensate for. Like you, I use Nova, not just for its customization features but also because I disable the stock launcher in order to remove the horizontal recents screen.
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Agreed. It would be great to be able to root my VZW Pixel 2 XL for things like being able to access the Google Play Music playlist database directly (to backup) but other than small things like that I'm very satisfied with Android 8.1.
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try this great app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jazibkhan.equalizer
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I'm fairly computer literate but I have zero experience with rooting phones. I have no idea about modules, or even what they mean. To be honest, I don't even really want to root my device, but Google has forced my hand. Call recording (totally legal where I live) is an essential part of my job, and as you all know by now Google has restricted this feature with Andriod Pie. It was preventing me from getting a new device, but now I simply have to upgrade. Now, I can look all this up given some instruction on how to root, but I can't find anything comprehensive in regards to my specific application.
What I'm looking for is someone to explain to me how to root the Pixel 3xl for the purposes of recording phone calls. Here are my questions:
1. Is there a certain program to use when rooting for this purpose or can I root in any fashion?
2. I don't need instructions on how to root the phone (I know this information exists and I can find it) but what do I do after I root my device in order to get Call Recording to work? Is it as simple as just rooting the phone then downloading a call recorder app?
3. Is one app better than another when downloading to a rooted phone?
4. Can someone explain, step by step what I need to do in order for this to go smoothly? I'd really hate to buy a brand new Pixel, then immediately brick the thing. (eg. Step 1. Root phone. Step 2. download this module Step 3.......etc)
If this information already exists, then please point me in the right direction. I really have searched for a step by step guide, and just cannot find one.
Thanks all for your help.
Before rooting your phone, try call recorder cube acr by Catalina group in the play store.
There is nothing that works as good as rooted call recording, and I've tried a bunch.
Here is the guide you need to root. You will need to unlock bootloaders and then root in that order (note: rooting will delete the data on your phone like a factory reset would so make sure to back everything up first).
Next, what I use is Call Recorder by @skvalex and it's amazing, the best I have found and it syncs to google drive automatically. So I can go back for years and find conversations if I would like to... There used to be two versions, a regular non-root version and a ROOT version, the latter is what you want (he may have combined them both into one now though). I'm not sure if that is what is on his site or not, you will probably need to reach out to him. You will also have to purchase ( a one time fee of $10 in the play store but for me totally worth it and MUCH better than a monthly plan). Then in the settings just make sure you select the ROOT method of recording. (settings>recording method>ROOT). He used to point people here for the root app but looks like he just updated it recently. The version I'm on is 3.2.0
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Before rooting your phone, try call recorder cube acr by Catalina group in the play store.
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That's actually what I use currently on my LG G6. I've heard of some users having absolutely no issue with ACR on the Google Pixel 3xl with Andriod Pie but it seems these cases are rare(ish) and most likely have to do with either the country the user is in or where the phone is from, but I haven't figured that part out yet. I will certainly try it when I buy my Pixel xl3 and report back, but my hopes are low on this.
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Next, what I use is Call Recorder by @skvalex and it's amazing, the best I have found......
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That's awesome info thanks. I've heard people saying a few different apps work but it seems they all have to further modify their system in order to use them. Other than switching the app to "Root Mode" it sounds like this is just as easy as rooting the phone, then installing the app right?
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That's actually what I use currently on my LG G6. I've heard of some users having absolutely no issue with ACR on the Google Pixel 3xl with Andriod Pie but it seems these cases are rare(ish) and most likely have to do with either the country the user is in or where the phone is from, but I haven't figured that part out yet. I will certainly try it when I buy my Pixel xl3 and report back, but my hopes are low on this.
That's awesome info thanks. I've heard people saying a few different apps work but it seems they all have to further modify their system in order to use them. Other than switching the app to "Root Mode" it sounds like this is just as easy as rooting the phone, then installing the app right?
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Yep!
So my user name says it all... I'm older and suffer from short term memory loss. But I was using an app ACR for recording all phones calls ( I even let the callers know). And then I also started using an app called OTTER which puts your calls or Zoom meetings into text format. The ACR app says you can still use a phone with the Android OS 7,8, or 9 OS to use their app to recorder.
Obviously I don't want to use my Samsung Z Fold3 5G under like the 9 OS.
I DO have an iPhone SE 2nd generation (I think I have ios 13 on it).
So, is there some way I can get the recorder to work on my Samsung Z Fold3 5G..or to reset my iPhone and put an earlier ios on it... I need to ask the ACR app person if his app would work on the iPhone then.
Or if you know of a phone recording app that already works on iPhone❓️
It's been reported if you install acr from aptiode instead of the playstore it works. There's a thread on it somewhere in this forum. You can also use samfirmware tool to change csc and enable native call recoding. Again there's a thread on it in this forum
Maybe this is a foolish suggestion but I'm going to offer it anyway: why not get a used Android phone running v8 or v9 that will run the app without requiring tricks? Yes, this might mean that you will be carrying two devices. But on the other hand, you won't have to constantly worry that a software update will abruptly disable the app you depend on.
There are some very dependable compact Motorola and Samsung phones that would be well suited for taking and making calls.
Change the CSC to INU (india) and call recording option appears in the phone app
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It's been reported if you install acr from aptiode instead of the playstore it works. There's a thread on it somewhere in this forum. You can also use samfirmware tool to change csc and enable native call recoding. Again there's a thread on it in this forum
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Hi Andy
I had a friend of mine that's a techie walk through it with me..and it works
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Maybe this is a foolish suggestion but I'm going to offer it anyway: why not get a used Android phone running v8 or v9 that will run the app without requiring tricks? Yes, this might mean that you will be carrying two devices. But on the other hand, you won't have to constantly worry that a software update will abruptly disable the app you depend on.
There are some very dependable compact Motorola and Samsung phones that would be well suited for taking and making calls.
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I appreciate want you said, and had thought if I had to I would. But I already have a very expensive, and fantastic Smartphone by way of my Millennial son
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Change the CSC to INU (india) and call recording option appears in the phone app
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I didn't even know how to start with your idea. But
First Google phone (Pixel 6 Pro) in years! Anyways want to slim down and get rid of Google services on a phone. I am thinking of switching to Graphene OS but also want a ROM that fixes a lot of the bugs this phone has. Better screen color and brightness control and better battery. But would like to use the stock camera if possible. Rather not have to use magisk if it's avoidable.
Would a different ROM make more sense or are there other things Graphene can do that improves on Google's buggy and strangely limited version of Android on the Pixel.
Btw downgraded from a S22 Ultra for the purpose of giving Google's snooping eyes the boot but got use to the saturated colors on Samsung phones!. I am fine with the browser versions of YouTube, YT Music and Gmail.
Any and all suggestions and comments welcome.
To what do you refer when you say "... the bugs this phone has."?
I'd say go with GrapheneOS. You can use gcam if you like, I'd recommend with "gcam-services-provider" photos version, which avoids the need to install gservices.
Magisk should not be necessary unless you want to do something that just won't work without root, like call recording (BCR is the best choice for this), or make proper complete backups (seedvault backup is available, but won't back up any application that tells it not to, with root, neobackup is the best choice)
Youtube software should be replaced with Newpipe (open source youtube client). Gmail can be replaced with Fairemail (preferred) or K9Mail (now Thunderbird? https://k9mail.app/2022/06/13/K-9-Mail-and-Thunderbird.html).
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To what do you refer when you say "... the bugs this phone has."?
I'd say go with GrapheneOS. You can use gcam if you like, I'd recommend with "gcam-services-provider" photos version, which avoids the need to install gservices.
Magisk should not be necessary unless you want to do something that just won't work without root, like call recording (BCR is the best choice for this), or make proper complete backups (seedvault backup is available, but won't back up any application that tells it not to, with root, neobackup is the best choice)
Youtube software should be replaced with Newpipe (open source youtube client). Gmail can be replaced with Fairemail (preferred) or K9Mail (now Thunderbird? https://k9mail.app/2022/06/13/K-9-Mail-and-Thunderbird.html).
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I think i know some 'the bugs this phone has"
google phone navigation bar is terrible, sometimes it will lag and i will have to swipe a few times if i want it to work properly,Even on 4 xl and 6 pro
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To what do you refer when you say "... the bugs this phone has."?
I'd say go with GrapheneOS. You can use gcam if you like, I'd recommend with "gcam-services-provider" photos version, which avoids the need to install gservices.
Magisk should not be necessary unless you want to do something that just won't work without root, like call recording (BCR is the best choice for this), or make proper complete backups (seedvault backup is available, but won't back up any application that tells it not to, with root, neobackup is the best choice)
Youtube software should be replaced with Newpipe (open source youtube client). Gmail can be replaced with Fairemail (preferred) or K9Mail (now Thunderbird? https://k9mail.app/2022/06/13/K-9-Mail-and-Thunderbird.html).
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Maybe bugs was to strong. More like behaviors like the auto brightness being way to dim despite constant adjustment to train it. It has been using Samsung devices for a while now. Android has been getting so good I stopped rooting and installing roms. However Samsung has gotten very irritating and bloated again.
Thanks for the help and suggestions. There where some root apps that allowed you to adjust the displays saturation and contrast. Is there anything like that for the Pixel 6 Plus. Samsung broke my eye with the saturated colors. Lol.
Also is possible to use an Android wear watch without Android wear or will I have to change to a Tizen (Samsung) or maybe a Honor Magic watch. Taking suggestions.
Also is rooting for Magisk necessary as I would like to keep things more secure.
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To what do you refer when you say "... the bugs this phone has."?
I'd say go with GrapheneOS. You can use gcam if you like, I'd recommend with "gcam-services-provider" photos version, which avoids the need to install gservices.
Magisk should not be necessary unless you want to do something that just won't work without root, like call recording (BCR is the best choice for this), or make proper complete backups (seedvault backup is available, but won't back up any application that tells it not to, with root, neobackup is the best choice)
Youtube software should be replaced with Newpipe (open source youtube client). Gmail can be replaced with Fairemail (preferred) or K9Mail (now Thunderbird? https://k9mail.app/2022/06/13/K-9-Mail-and-Thunderbird.html).
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Just an update. Graphenos install was super simple. Using Newpipe but looking for a YouTube Music streaming app since I listen to a lot of kpop which is hard to find elsewhere. Any ideas? Also using Open Camera for more control.
Grapheneos has a Saturated color profile so that fixed my color saturation issue!
Refusing to install even a sandboxes version of GPS.
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Just an update. Graphenos install was super simple. Using Newpipe but looking for a YouTube Music streaming app since I listen to a lot of kpop which is hard to find elsewhere. Any ideas? Also using Open Camera for more control.
Grapheneos has a Saturated color profile so that fixed my color saturation issue!
Refusing to install even a sandboxes version of GPS.
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I'm not sure if it gives you exactly what you're looking for, but newpipe seems to have had some music-specific features since 2020; https://newpipe.net/blog/release/pinned/newpipe-0.19.3-release/
When you hit the search button (magnifying glass, upper-right corner), you then hit the MENU button (3 vertical dots button, upper-right corner) and can pick one of the 4 youtube music filters.
The saturated colors option is part of AOSP and is included in factory images as well. They started adding that in one of the updates for Pixel 2, which is where they started pushing *natural* colors. Some people didn't like natural colors after getting used to cartoon-level saturation and wanted some extra. I keep mine on Natural and have subsequently adjusted to it. It was probably easier for me to adjust to on account of having had no choice initially.