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[Q] [IRGENT] Need a lot of questions answered about unlocking the bootloader.

Hi, I have a few questions...
About Helium Backup..
If I use Helium to backup, how to I access my backup in internal storage? And if I wipe my device, do I keep the Helium backup? If not, then how do I access them before I wipe?
About unlocking the bootloader
Could I unlock the bootloader with wiping everything, then restore my backup with Helium, and then root? Or do I have to root then restore?
This is for the Nexus 7 by the way.
Lastly, is there a way to unlock the bootloader without wipe in a Nexus 7 (2013)?
Please, please please please PLEASE answer this, I want to root soo badly.

3pix said:
If I use Helium to backup, how to I access my backup in internal storage? And if I wipe my device, do I keep the Helium backup? If not, then how do I access them before I wipe?
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Helium backups will just be made to your internal storage (Unless you have the premium version) and these will NOT survive a wipe when unlocking the bootloader.
Connect up your Nexus to a PC and copy the Helium files to it for safekeeping... Or if that fails and you have an FTP Server program on your PC, FTP them to yourself, or use the Airdroid app etc....
IMPORTANT NOTE for Helium.... It may NOT work with everything....
I wanted to move some game backups between tablets and it is a bit hit and miss... For the main, it worked fine, but there are a handful of games I found it could not transfer progress. Quell and GTR Racing 2 spring to mind immediately.
Effectively the backup is successful, but restoration is not. However, it could be as I was moving from Tablet A to Tablet B (albeit both Nexus 7's) that what cocked up these particular games....
3pix said:
Could I unlock the bootloader with wiping everything, then restore my backup with Helium, and then root? Or do I have to root then restore?
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I think you can do it either way to be honest, although you may as well root whilst unlocking the bootloader and installing a Custom recovery etc....
At least that way you don't have to activate Helium with your PC as it doesn't need this step once rooted.
3pix said:
Lastly, is there a way to unlock the bootloader without wipe in a Nexus 7 (2013)?
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No idea, but I suspect not.....

Thanks!
Yuccaman said:
Helium backups will just be made to your internal storage (Unless you have the premium version) and these will NOT survive a wipe when unlocking the bootloader.
Connect up your Nexus to a PC and copy the Helium files to it for safekeeping... Or if that fails and you have an FTP Server program on your PC, FTP them to yourself, or use the Airdroid app etc....
IMPORTANT NOTE for Helium.... It may NOT work with everything....
I wanted to move some game backups between tablets and it is a bit hit and miss... For the main, it worked fine, but there are a handful of games I found it could not transfer progress. Quell and GTR Racing 2 spring to mind immediately.
Effectively the backup is successful, but restoration is not. However, it could be as I was moving from Tablet A to Tablet B (albeit both Nexus 7's) that what cocked up these particular games....
I think you can do it either way to be honest, although you may as well root whilst unlocking the bootloader and installing a Custom recovery etc....
At least that way you don't have to activate Helium with your PC as it doesn't need this step once rooted.
No idea, but I suspect not.....
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Thank you for the information.

Accessing application data... is it possible?

I need the main.db file from the Skype app installed on my HTC One X. The phone is not rooted, and I read that installing a bootloader wipes the phone. Is it at all possible to get ahold of the file in any way? Is it possible to use a recovery tool to view the deleted files after unlocking the bootloader? Would it be possible to buy another HTC phone, bootload that, do a system transfer from the locked phone to the new and be able to access the files then? What about doing a system back-up to the pc? (since HTC writes that it will include free apps in the back-up?).
Thanks for the help!

Spisepinden said:
I need the main.db file from the Skype app installed on my HTC One X. The phone is not rooted, and I read that installing a bootloader wipes the phone. Is it at all possible to get ahold of the file in any way? Is it possible to use a recovery tool to view the deleted files after unlocking the bootloader? Would it be possible to buy another HTC phone, bootload that, do a system transfer from the locked phone to the new and be able to access the files then? What about doing a system back-up to the pc? (since HTC writes that it will include free apps in the back-up?).
Thanks for the help!
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nope there never was a root exploit for locked bootloader.
However there is this app. Helium:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It says it can backup apps with data without the need for root. However this app relies on the fact that the app developer must have the backup flag set to allow. Developers who sell for example a banking app always denies this flag. This is to make it unable to a hacker to just transfer the app and data to another phone and hijack your banking account. Its a free choice to set this flag so its very much a guess if a particular app will be able to backup or not.
Try Helium, backup skype and restore it on some other phone you have and see if the data survives. Or boot a virtual machine with android if you don't have any other android phone.
I've never used the Helium app. I've always stuck with "mybackup pro" since it was first released or titanium. But these apps requires root.
Its been so many years I don't remember how stock rom looks like. But I know there is a backup function that backup apps and etc.
Read this manual: (go to page 104)
http://dl4.htc.com/web_materials/Manual/HTC_One_X/HTC_OneX_plus_User_Guide_MR.pdf
I'm not sure if this backup the app data..? I would not rely on this solution.

Thank you I'll try Helium and cross my fingers, then the HTC back-up if that fails. The back-up says it also transfers program data of free apps, so maybe I'll be lucky. I've seen a thread somewhere on restoring files post-bootloader installation - that'll be my last option if all else fails.

Spisepinden said:
Thank you I'll try Helium and cross my fingers, then the HTC back-up if that fails. The back-up says it also transfers program data of free apps, so maybe I'll be lucky. I've seen a thread somewhere on restoring files post-bootloader installation - that'll be my last option if all else fails.
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Yes I forgot to mention that part. You could use the built in backup tool in stock rom. Once its finished. Unlock the bootloader and then try and restore your data once the phone is back up again and running.
Of course make sure that the backup you made earlier is secure before unlocking the bootloader.
Perhaps it will work I dunno. But at least its worth a try.

Htc 10 root

Hello, i would like to root my HTC 10 and also maybe get some custom ROM. I watched many guides on the internet but every method is different a bit. So i would like to ask here because im bit lost in these guids.
1. Can i root without loosing all my data? If not, what should i use as my backup app or method?
2. Can i somehow backup my apps, so they will install automatically after the root? I mean without 50x clicking on "yes i accept" or something like that.
3. Which roms would u recommend to me and why?
4. What is the best way to root it right now? (all these guids are from year 2016 so it can be outdated i guess)
5. Thanks alot.

FTWDiesel said:
Hello, i would like to root my HTC 10 and also maybe get some custom ROM. I watched many guides on the internet but every method is different a bit. So i would like to ask here because im bit lost in these guids.
1. Can i root without loosing all my data? If not, what should i use as my backup app or method?
2. Can i somehow backup my apps, so they will install automatically after the root? I mean without 50x clicking on "yes i accept" or something like that.
3. Which roms would u recommend to me and why?
4. What is the best way to root it right now? (all these guids are from year 2016 so it can be outdated i guess)
5. Thanks alot.
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1 & 2. If you want to root your phone for free you'll need to unlock your bootloader first, which will wipe your phone anyway. Your apps should automatically be restored from your google account afterwards, if you have automatic backups enabled. You should still backup all of your pictures/music/files manually to your sd card or computer. Also I like to backup my texts and call log using Call Log Backup and Restore. Same for whatsapp, or any other folder you want to restore afterwards.
3. I use stock. Leedroid and Viper are probably the most popular ones. Close enough to stock with many customization options.
4. Best way to root is through Magisk. Doesn't modify your system and you can hide root for apps that don't allow it. If you go straight to a custom rom after unlocking your bootloader, you won't need to root separately.
5. You're welcome.

Tarima said:
1 & 2. If you want to root your phone for free you'll need to unlock your bootloader first, which will wipe your phone anyway. Your apps should automatically be restored from your google account afterwards, if you have automatic backups enabled. You should still backup all of your pictures/music/files manually to your sd card or computer. Also I like to backup my texts and call log using Call Log Backup and Restore. Same for whatsapp, or any other folder you want to restore afterwards.
3. I use stock. Leedroid and Viper are probably the most popular ones. Close enough to stock with many customization options.
4. Best way to root is through Magisk. Doesn't modify your system and you can hide root for apps that don't allow it. If you go straight to a custom rom after unlocking your bootloader, you won't need to root separately.
5. You're welcome.
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Thanks alot for your answer. How did u mean that apps will install automaticaly? I dont know how to enable automatic backups. How can i do that?

FTWDiesel said:
Thanks alot for your answer. How did u mean that apps will install automaticaly? I dont know how to enable automatic backups. How can i do that?
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Settings, Backup and Reset.
Not sure if enabling it will immediately back everything up.
After your phone is wiped, it asks you for your Google account and then which apps you want to restore. Not sure if app data is backed up/restored as well.

Tarima said:
Settings, Backup and Reset.
Not sure if enabling it will immediately back everything up.
After your phone is wiped, it asks you for your Google account and then which apps you want to restore. Not sure if app data is backed up/restored as well.
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Okay, thanks alot again.

Urgent help for backup

Dears, I have nothing but 24 hours to backup my beloved OP3 before the carrier comes to bring it in RMA (burn in problems on display).
Some files have been directly taken from the device (e.g., videos and photos), some others have been backupped by means of OP Switch... but the latter won't save application files and that's it, I need urgently to entirely backup & restore (as they were) some application such as Google Authenticator .
I heard Titanium Backup could do the magic but unfortunately I'm not rooted, and doing this might result in a lose warranty (which is not the case to risk, due to the fact the phone might be repaired in warranty).
Any tip? Tried with adb pull to get the Google Authenticator DB as read in several web pages, but got no luck ( I think it's a permission issue ).
Thanks, your help is highly appreciated.

OnePlus supports device customization so unlocked bootloader and root shouldn't be an issue, so I'd go with Titanium.
That said, there's a Helium app (and desktop program) that's supposed to be able to backup app data without root. Sounds like you'll have to install apps fresh, but then you can restore their data. Never tried it myself though. Here's a link with a quick guide: https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
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THanks,
unfortunately, unlocking the bootloader results in a complete wipe of the device, so that's not an option.... Tried the Helium app, didn't understood that well how it works but when it comes to a backup of 84 apps' data, in the restore phase i can see only 16. That said, probably it's a matter of proper authorization performing the backup (that is to say, root is not necessary, but without root you can backup only 1/10 of your apps data).

How to Backup Data Partition Without Root?

Hi!
Can anyone tell me how to backup the data partition on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10+ 5G without any sort of root or custom recovery that would trigger Knox flag? I am fully stock and I'm pretty sure Samsung has a tool that allows them to do a dd or full data dump of the partitions on the phone
I want to be able to back it up, fully factory reset it, and potentially restore the data partition so it is back into the pre wiped state.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!

Samsung smart switch app is one approach

dyehya said:
Hi!
Can anyone tell me how to backup the data partition on a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 10+ 5G without any sort of root or custom recovery that would trigger Knox flag? I am fully stock and I'm pretty sure Samsung has a tool that allows them to do a dd or full data dump of the partitions on the phone
I want to be able to back it up, fully factory reset it, and potentially restore the data partition so it is back into the pre wiped state.
Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!
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I fail to see the point?
For the purpose of backups such as Titanium Backups with app data included or just download the firmware root files ?
If the later, wouldn't it be easier to just unpack a firmware?
If the first ... without root I don't think you can at first thought. Maybe an Odin Dump? But since root is encrypted (I think as this never crossed my mind) I don't really know if it's possible or maybe Heimdal if it still exists ?

Any tips? I'm looking to do this as well. The purpose is to have an efficient backup process for dozens of apps and their configuration files residing in their appdata directory (which I can view using Solid Explorer). I spent a long time building these configurations and continue to update them so I'd like to regularly back them up once a month.
The problem is I am not rooted otherwise this would be very simple. I'm a bit wary to root when there are still OTA updates being provided.
Without root, the only options are Samsung Switch (doesn't do non-Samsung app data), Google Drive backup (doesn't do data), and Helium (doesn't work).

megamorphg said:
Any tips? I'm looking to do this as well. The purpose is to have an efficient backup process for dozens of apps and their configuration files residing in their appdata directory (which I can view using Solid Explorer). I spent a long time building these configurations and continue to update them so I'd like to regularly back them up once a month.
The problem is I am not rooted otherwise this would be very simple. I'm a bit wary to root when there are still OTA updates being provided.
Without root, the only options are Samsung Switch (doesn't do non-Samsung app data), Google Drive backup (doesn't do data), and Helium (doesn't work).
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I deliberately use apps that allow disk backup like Poweramp, Digi Clock, ColorNote, Samsung Contacts and Package Disabler.
I use SmartSwitch to transfer home settings only so all the icons and shortcuts need to be recreated but at least the base setup is there. I use ApkExport to make installable copies of all my apps including system apps and updates then stash them on the SD card. Everything I need for a full reload is on the SD card. I then redundantly backup the SD card.
Yeah I wish I could clone the drive like I can with a PC...
There's issues rooting a Samsung and the same goes for OTA updates. I don't update my N10+'s and spend very little time doing maintenance. This one in my hand is still running on Pie, its current load is over 2yo; still snappy fast and stable. Security is not an issue. My other N10+ is running on 10, I prefer Pie. Neither will likely ever be upgraded.

blackhawk said:
There's issues rooting a Samsung and the same goes for OTA updates. I don't update my N10+'s and spend very little time doing maintenance. This one in my hand is still running on Pie, its current load is over 2yo; still snappy fast and stable. Security is not an issue. My other N10+ is running on 10, I prefer Pie. Neither will likely ever be upgraded.
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Haha wow, and you haven't rooted either of them? If I had two, I would love to have one rooted for experimenting. What issues exactly are there with rooting? I'm guessing typical hardware issues like thumbprint for some ROMs?
And yeah it sounds like I will have to manually copy things to a synced folder... maybe I'll make a really lengthy macro that exports from my most important apps one-by-one.

megamorphg said:
Haha wow, and you haven't rooted either of them? If I had two, I would love to have one rooted for experimenting. What issues exactly are there with rooting? I'm guessing typical hardware issues like thumbprint for some ROMs?
And yeah it sounds like I will have to manually copy things to a synced folder... maybe I'll make a really lengthy macro that exports from my most important apps one-by-one.
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The one is a backup, that's how much I like them.
They run well, security isn't an issue and they fullfill their mission; I have very little to gain by rooting except lose time and potentially a device.
There's no way to root these except maybe a granting a paid 3rd party vendor complete access to phone to unlock the bootloader, a huge security risk. No.
I don't worry about app data except for the ones I already backup especially Poweramp. Recreating that would take a long time. The other app data is best tossed, and could have been responsible for the reload. This N10+ in my hand was last reloaded over 2 years ago. Still fast and stable; that what Android is capable of.
Going over the settings and apps when reloading helps you to find things you may have overlooked. It also refreshes your memory of the how and why things work on your custom setup.