Anyway around this without rooting the phone?
jefffrom said:
Anyway around this without rooting the phone?
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If your phone version is not Chinese, relock the bootloader.
Don't want to lock the bootloader you misunderstood my question
jefffrom said:
Don't want to lock the bootloader you misunderstood my question
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That is to say that with so many details in your question, it is difficult to answer precisely but if your device is Chinese only root and magisk will allow this.
If available for your device install a https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/22-7-6-7.66275/
Better than stock,certified play store with unlocked bootloader without root.
what's the point of an unlocked bootloader if you aren't going to root?
3zozHashim said:
what's the point of an unlocked bootloader if you aren't going to root?
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downgrade or installing rom,No?
AFAIK no other way than to flash Magisk, enable Zygisk and use Module "SafetyNet-Fix".
If you don't use Root, in Magisk you can set to auto-deny all Root-requests.
So if I installed the EEA stock fastboot rom, I would not pass the Google Play store certification and safetynet if I leave the bootloader unlocked? Just to be sure.
This is the first I've read about this. I was thinking maybe go back to stock for a change.
Can I unlock the bootloader again in the future if I install the rom with clean all and lock?
Yes, simply unlocking the bootloader will fail SafetyNet.
Yes, you can unlock the Bootloader again, at any time.
yes you can unlock again, instantly, you wont need to wait 7 days
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If I were to unlock my bootloader, flash unmodified 8.1 dev preview and relock the bootloader, would I be able to pass safetynet? Or does unlocking the bootloader mean I'll permanently need to find workarounds no matter what I do afterwards?
Magisk rooting hides that. I can confirm that it works all the way up to November security patch. Look at the developer forum for more information.
TheSt33v said:
If I were to unlock my bootloader, flash unmodified 8.1 dev preview and relock the bootloader, would I be able to pass safetynet?
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Yes.
I have a related question. Is locking the bootloader even necessary? I thought having an unrooted rom on an unlocked bootloader phone passes safetynet?
Hobox10 said:
I have a related question. Is locking the bootloader even necessary? I thought having an unrooted rom on an unlocked bootloader phone passes safetynet?
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Safetynet checks for Bootloader Status, unlocked doesn't pass.
Hobox10 said:
I have a related question. Is locking the bootloader even necessary? I thought having an unrooted rom on an unlocked bootloader phone passes safetynet?
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Custom roms often make changes at the kernel level to block safetynet's ability to check the bootloader status, which makes it pass (for now). Magisk also hides bootloader unlock status from safetynet. So there are workarounds.
I've asked this on Reddit already, but thought it was worthwhile to ask here as well
It's been a long time (3 years) since I had a device that I'd been able to root and I wanted to make sure I'm ready to do it on my UK 7T whenever a solution becomes available (I've checked here and it seems a bit hit and miss at the moment). In order to get my device prepped should I just unlock the bootloader and wait for someone to get TWRP and Magisk working? Basically, I want to avoid losing all my stuff in x weeks time when the process becomes safer/simpler and from memory I think unlocking the bootloader causes everything on the device to be wiped.
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2 real questions:
Does the process of rooting the device wipe it, or does that only happen when unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader when I first get the device, will this be me prepped for rooting later on without losing all of my data?
Thanks
If you're not going to install a custom Rom, you're prepared for root without losing your data. I did it too yesterday when my 7T arrived, right after update oxygenos.
lmfao009 said:
If you're not going to install a custom Rom, you're prepared for root without losing your data. I did it too yesterday when my 7T arrived, right after update oxygenos.
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I can't see myself moving from OOS, I just want root. So you're saying if I unlock bootloader from the off I'll be good for rooting in the future?
r0brimmer said:
I can't see myself moving from OOS, I just want root. So you're saying if I unlock bootloader from the off I'll be good for rooting in the future?
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I'm changing from an iPhone 7+ to Oneplus 7T and got it yesterday. Why you don't make a backup when it's time for root? So far I can't see Custom ROMs or a working TWRP for the Oneplus 7T.
r0brimmer said:
I can't see myself moving from OOS, I just want root. So you're saying if I unlock bootloader from the off I'll be good for rooting in the future?
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Yes, i lost data when unlocking the bootloader but then it was okay while rooting. I think you should unlock the bootloader and root as soon as you get the phone, but after updating to latest 10.0.4 version
Unlocked Bootloader / no Magisk Hide
Consider that apps like GooglePay or other apps will refuse working since they detect the unlocked bootloader state as possible security leak. GPay says, that due unlocked bootloader it does not want to initialze it.
So after facing this problems I would recommend, since magisk is limited to patching the actual boot.img, to stay on locked bootloader and unlock it after a secure method exists to install magisk and maybe TWRP. Otherwise, if you donot use these kind of apps, you can stay with unlocked BL.
So I successfully rooted phone, with TWRP, and Magisk. The only problem I'm having is 1) still getting safety net API error,
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2) I don't know which command to use to relock the Boot loader.
It is likely that one will fix the other, or at least I think as Google is detecting my unlocked bootloader. I want to be able to re-un-lock it (I've been seeing forums filled people who can't unlock their bootloaders after locking it.
RimWulf said:
So I successfully rooted phone, with TWRP, and Magisk. The only problem I'm having is 1) still getting safety net API error,
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If your device is not 100% stock when you lock the bootloader it will not boot.
RimWulf said:
2) I don't know which command to use to relock the Boot loader.
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[Guide]Un/locking Motorola Bootloader
UnLocking and ReLocking Motorola Bootloader https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a Moto Bootloader Unlocking site Re-Locking see Post #4 More about bootloader UnLocking Post #2 Can my...
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RimWulf said:
It is likely that one will fix the other, or at least I think as Google is detecting my unlocked bootloader. I want to be able to re-un-lock it (I've been seeing forums filled people who can't unlock their bootloaders after locking it.
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I have not seen this problem reported (much) as long as the device was full stock when relocked.
If your device is not 100% stock when you lock the bootloader it will not boot.
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What do you mean? Can you clarify?
[Guide]Un/locking Motorola Bootloader
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Thanks for that, So I managed to get it locked and got Google services and Pay working. With hide. (Small learning curve)
I have not seen this problem reported (much) as long as the device was full stock when relocked.
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It seems to be a new problem. The the safety net check problem seems to be with magisk 22.1 (and 22.0 reportedly works but I'm too lazy to downgrade) as Hide works and I used alternative app to check safety net (SafetyNet Test) and it passed that. So everything is working as it should accept Magisk's internal safety net check tool.
Also, I finally learned how to add quotes, yay me!
sd_shadow said:
If your device is not 100% stock when you lock the bootloader it will not boot.
[Guide]Un/locking Motorola Bootloader
UnLocking and ReLocking Motorola Bootloader https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a Moto Bootloader Unlocking site Re-Locking see Post #4 More about bootloader UnLocking Post #2 Can my...
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I have not seen this problem reported (much) as long as the device was full stock when relocked.
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Turned out it WAS the magisk build 22.1 was fixed now FOSS works. Thanks with the help about MagiskHide. Now I need a terminal emulator that requests root permission. Any suggestions?
What are the disadvantage of unlocking bootloader? Is there any reason to keep it locked? Do you lose anything by unlocking?
CrushedMango said:
What are the disadvantage of unlocking bootloader? Is there any reason to keep it locked? Do you lose anything by unlocking?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4288121/post-85137959
Read step 7 and step 20.
Honestly the biggest drawback is that generally no L1 support after unlock, but in this phone that doesn't happen, so I would say No drawback at all
Ok thanks. I was thinking of trying miui but I didn't wanna wait 7 days once I decide miui isn't for me. I will unlock as soon as I get the phone
CrushedMango said:
Ok thanks. I was thinking of trying miui but I didn't wanna wait 7 days once I decide miui isn't for me. I will unlock as soon as I get the phone
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No, you must wait 7 days to unlock after you submit the request to unlock bootloader. So you still need to bear with MIUI for at least 7 days.
There's no shortcut (yet).
Most banking apps will not work with unlocked bootloader. This apps consider unlocked bootloader as a root of the system, so a lack of security.
CrushedMango said:
What are the disadvantage of unlocking bootloader? Is there any reason to keep it locked? Do you lose anything by unlocking?
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The warranty will be voided if bootloader unlocked
Alin45 said:
Most banking apps will not work with unlocked bootloader. This apps consider unlocked bootloader as a root of the system, so a lack of security.
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Yes that is true but it's still possible to pass safety nets but as long safety nets are passing u should still be able to use banking apps even if running on custom ROM
Alin45 said:
Most banking apps will not work with unlocked bootloader. This apps consider unlocked bootloader as a root of the system, so a lack of security.
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theres a method to use baanking apps with the bootloader unlocked?
thewitchmerlin said:
theres a method to use baanking apps with the bootloader unlocked?
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As long as your phone stay not ROOTED. Don't get miss leading about Unlock Bootloader and ROOT.
Austinredstoner said:
The warranty will be voided if bootloader unlocked
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This is not always true.
Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco in many countries still have warranty after bootloader unlocked.
Check the local Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco policy yourself.
pl1992aw said:
This is not always true.
Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco in many countries still have warranty after bootloader unlocked.
Check the local Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco policy yourself.
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Yes but if u install any custom ROM it will get voided for sure
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As long as your phone stay not ROOTED. Don't get miss leading about Unlock Bootloader and ROOT.
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Firstly is SafetyNet check. This is the first thing for banking apps.
Some ROMs did not pass SafetyNet out of the box and they have to use Magisk and modules to make them pass. This kind of ROMs mostly will have issues with bank apps.
To sum up:
Bootloader unlock: you can use bank apps, but sometimes not.
Root: you can use bank apps with some adjustments, but sometimes not.
ROMs: you can use bank apps, but sometimes not without the help of Root.
Try and error, life is just like this.
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Yes but if u install any custom ROM it will get voided for sure
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That is not totally correct either.
There are many cases that people had installed custom ROM and bricked their phone, but Xiaomi still give free warranty within the warranty deadline.
If you installed custom ROM and need Xiaomi warranty, simply return to MIUI and you still get Xiaomi warranty within deadline, if the policy said so.
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That is not totally correct either.
There are many cases that people had installed custom ROM and bricked their phone, but Xiaomi still give free warranty within the warranty deadline.
If you installed custom ROM and need Xiaomi warranty, simply return to MIUI and you still get Xiaomi warranty within deadline, if the policy said so.
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Warranty good but even if it does get voided I will still unlock bootloader anyway because of custom ROM and stuff but it's cool that warranty does not get voided after unlocking bootloader
Austinredstoner said:
Warranty good but even if it does get voided I will still unlock bootloader anyway because of custom ROM and stuff but it's cool that warranty does not get voided after unlocking bootloader
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Example as here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/4264715/post-84877435
thewitchmerlin said:
theres a method to use baanking apps with the bootloader unlocked?
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As I said, some bank apps can work. If ur bank app does not work, then the only way to use it is to root the ROM using Magisk (and some other specific magisk modules have to be installed if installing magisk only does not do the trick).
I want to update my phone but it just doesn't work because apparently xiaomi is blocking the update to android 11, I dont get new updates and can't update manually either. I even contacted Xiaomi support and all they said was "you should go to the store where you bought the product." lmao
I know unlocking the bootloader and installing a rom would work, but this way my bank app would be unusable for me, so I can't do it.
Is there any way to flash my device to a new version without unlocking bootloader?
Illyve1 said:
I want to update my phone but it just doesn't work because apparently xiaomi is blocking the update to android 11, I dont get new updates and can't update manually either. I even contacted Xiaomi support and all they said was "you should go to the store where you bought the product." lmao
I know unlocking the bootloader and installing a rom would work, but this way my bank app would be unusable for me, so I can't do it.
Is there any way to flash my device to a new version without unlocking bootloader?
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Just unlock bootloader then lock it again by flash fastboot rom (Clean all and lock option). And just a few bank apps that not work for unlocked bootloader.
Kirasu2080 said:
Just unlock bootloader then lock it again by flash fastboot rom (Clean all and lock option). And just a few bank apps that not work for unlocked bootloader.
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I've read something that said relocking a global phone breaks it, isn't that right?
Also, my bank app is one of those that doesn't work with unlocked bootloader.
Illyve1 said:
I've read something that said relocking a global phone breaks it, isn't that right?
Also, my bank app is one of those that doesn't work with unlocked bootloader.
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It just got error if you try to lock bootloader with some other regions. Example: China phone with other roms. If you lock bootloader with same varient, it will be like a new phone with updated.
And almost bank apps problem is safetynet pass and root related, not unlocked bootloader. Go search online or find other group to check your bank app work or not. You can also join rmn8p group on Telegram with some useful guide over there.
Kirasu2080 said:
It just got error if you try to lock bootloader with some other regions. Example: China phone with other roms. If you lock bootloader with same varient, it will be like a new phone with updated.
And almost bank apps problem is safetynet pass and root related, not unlocked bootloader. Go search online or find other group to check your bank app work or not. You can also join rmn8p group on Telegram with some useful guide over there.
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Thank you, I'm gonna do that.
Illyve1 said:
Thank you, I'm gonna do that.
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I have a redmi device and I have rooted it with bootloader unlocked and safetynet works properly. The only condition is that you need to install it properly. All apps such as Netflix and gpay wotk properly