Question Quick Charging S22 (Exynos) - Samsung Galaxy S22

I'm thinking about getting S22 (Exynos).
I have couple of questions:
* Quickcharging - does the device charge with standard QC3 compatible charges, or is it Samsung proprietary?
* How is Samsung with sources for Exynos kernel these days? I still remember Galaxy S2 Exynos fiasco...
Thanks!

It supports Fast("-ish") charging with non-Samsung chargers and fast charging with Samsung's official charger and 3rd-party chargers which have PPS support.
The kernel source is readily available and the one you build isn't broken in some weird way (which was the case with the S9+, if I remember correctly). I can say that they have definitely improved in that aspect.
Although beware, this is something I would have liked to know instead of sadly finding it out on my own:
Third-party cameras won't be able to record in 60FPS (the highest they can go when "forced" is [email protected]). We can thank Samsung for that. Not to mention they are horrendous with Camera 2 API support (important for GCAM ports), resulting in the front camera photos not working (but you can record videos) unless you have the Ultra (they went out of their way not to let the front camera have e.g. proper RAW support and so on).
Besides that, GSIs are readily available and are IMO fine for daily use (there are some bugs like wifi hotspot, wifi direct and with the proximity sensor "not working" - when you enter a call it will blacken the screen but won't wake it up if you move the phone away from your head).

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Tab S3 as upgrade to Note 10.1 2014 - Your opinions?

The upcoming Tab S3 is the first tablet that I've seen that seems like it would be a good replacement / upgrade for the Note 10.1 2014.
Here are some PROs and CONs as I see it:
PRO:
- battery life
- processor
- "HDR"
- USB-C
- Fingerprint Sensor
- Low weight
- look / feel
- magnetic keyboard option
- 4096 levels pressure sensitivity
- larger rubberized s-pen
CON:
- portrait button orientation
- price
- pen does not fit inside tablet
- pen doesn't have eraser (not important for most, but leaves me using old pens that don't take advantage of the heightened pressure sensitivity)
- Big one: early reviews suggest s-pen input lag
The main con for me is really that custom ROMs have made my Note snappy enough that I don't feel like I really need to upgrade (aside from my aging battery life). With 7.1.1 ROMS (currently on LiquidDeath, but Lineage is great, too) I finally don't get s-pen lag when drawing or writing and would be frustrated to have to deal with that again.
I don't think I can justify the expense right now, but if I had the cash this would seem like a solid choice. Opinions?
I agree with everything you've listed.
I was a bit worried about losing screen size so I calculated some stuff.
Note: 8.6 x 5.4in - 46.44 sq in
Tab: 7.8 x 5.8in - 45.24 sq in
The tab loses a bit of length but gains it back in width. Not going to be as big for widescreen movies and such but hopefully not too bad.
I'm also not a fan of the reduced PPI but I'm going to Best Buy sometime to compare.
The pen not fitting inside is a big issue since it's easy for me to lose them (and the replacement is $60). I would probably put something on its belt clip to keep it attached to me.
However, the pen's gained size may feel nicer in the hand and make it more difficult to lose.
We'll get ROMs eventually. Except if the bootloader is tied down like on the S7 (is it?)
IMO it has 3 big cons not listed here.
Aspect ratio. It's bad for for android. Most iOS apps are optimized for 4:3, so it's a good fit for iPad. Most android apps actually look bad on 4:3 (used Mi tab, apps didn't look good). 4:3 is bad for media consumption. Websites are optimized for widescreen.
Lack of MHL is a big con for me too. I frequently use my tablet as my portable computer (booting linux) or portable media center. I don't find wireless a good alternative (things like chromecast), too much input lag and requires live Internet connection most of the times.
The smaller battery. Sure Note 10.1 has a more power hungry screen and SoC but the difference in battery capacity is so great that with a power efficient rom you always get better autonomy with Note 10.1
Stevethegreat said:
Lack of MHL is a big con for me too. I frequently use my tablet as my portable computer (booting linux) or portable media center. I don't find wireless a good alternative (things like chromecast), too much input lag and requires live Internet connection most of the times
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Does it not support DisplayPort over USB-C? If not, on Reddit there is a guy with a solution that works for the pixel, which also doesn't support DP over USB-C and that may work. Can't post the link since I'm still new but you can google "google pixel is wired output possible" to find the post.
Went to Best Buy recently and tried it. Couldn't do much since it was locked in demo mode (so I couldn't see how badly apps handle the 4:3 screen) but it seemed like a nice device.
Have you guys seen the Chromebook Plus/Pro? It's a Samsung Chromebook with an Spen, Android app support, and it folds into a tablet. It supports DP over USB-C. Downside is no button on pen. Might be a better fit if you are using the tablet as a portable computer and it will run Linux even better than the tab.
pmdevita said:
Does it not support DisplayPort over USB-C? If not, on Reddit there is a guy with a solution that works for the pixel, which also doesn't support DP over USB-C and that may work. Can't post the link since I'm still new but you can google "google pixel is wired output possible" to find the post.
Went to Best Buy recently and tried it. Couldn't do much since it was locked in demo mode (so I couldn't see how badly apps handle the 4:3 screen) but it seemed like a nice device.
Have you guys seen the Chromebook Plus/Pro? It's a Samsung Chromebook with an Spen, Android app support, and it folds into a tablet. It supports DP over USB-C. Downside is no button on pen. Might be a better fit if you are using the tablet as a portable computer and it will run Linux even better than the tab.
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I think only S8 supports video output over usb C at this point. Display output over usb 3 (as per the reddit page) is buggy at best. Tried it to one of my laptops, it's good for quick work, I wouldn't trust it for real work.
Chrome book plus is better for work. But an ultrabook is even better.
It's very bad as a tablet though. I've found out that the further away we are from 500 grams / 1 lbr mark the less people use the said device as a tablet. There is a reason , most books do not weigh more than 1lbr for easier reading. A tablet plays a similar role, the heavier it is the more unusable. Note 10.1 2014 is on the heavy side (would prefer if it had 100 less grams) but still very usable. 1KG tablet/laptops are not though. You may make the occasional tablet use, but no way you get it in the couch for media viewing or reading, or on a trip as a handheld, pretty much why the 2in1 idea never flew (people find that they don't use them as tablets so prefer to go the ultrabook route all the way).

Galaxy S9 LED View case and the pseudo-reverse charging within

On christmas of 2018, I got an LED view case to match my purple Verizon S9. It's a good case, has stopped a few drops, and has cool features, however I've always been intrigued by the technology behind it. Simply by being placed on the phone it can receive and I think even send data for the clock and music controller, and must receive power (3v at 40mA according to the label inside it) for the LED display. My guess as to how this is done is through the use of the phone's NFC, and the wireless charging coil for power transfer. The wireless charging theory is supported by the fact that if you enable the case's display while it's on a wireless charger, the charging will momentarily cease and resume when the display turns back off. Neat, right?
Here's what has me more excited, however. The S10 released with a wireless power sharing feature as you all may be aware of, but it has occurred to me that the S9 may actually be equipped with something very close to the same hardware, or at least similar in principle, since it seems it almost definitely can send power through inductive coupling. Whether it can send the higher volts and amps for charging is another question, though, and if that can be discovered, here's what I'm really wondering and what makes me debate if this falls under development: Could software potentially be altered to fully enable reverse hardware on the S9, S9+ and Note 9? I'm really curious just how much the actual charging coil and driver circuitry in the S9 is capable of, particularly if it's even remotely possible to tweak its operation with ROMs or firmware and suchwhat.

Alldocube X Neo review: media playback king on a budget

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The good:
1. Nice build quality.
2. Vibrant, clear and sharp display.
3. Decent performance.
4. MicroSD card support.
5. 4G and Phone functions.
The bad:
1. Old processor.
2. Big bezels.
3. No fingerprint reader or face unlock.
4. Sub-par battery life.
The Alldocube X released last year enjoyed enormous success on Indiegogo. With its dazzling 10.5-inch 2K Super Amoled display, stereo speakers, and AKM AK4376A powered 3.5mm headphone jack, the X was considered by many to be a perfect choice for media consumption. Unfortunately, it was hold back by a relatively weak processor (Mediatek MT8176 SoC) and poor battery life.
By the end of 2019, Alldocube announced its partnership with Qualcomm, the world’s leading mobile chip maker. Many were hoping that the Chinese brand could release an upgraded version of the X with a Snapdragon processor in it. And here comes the X Neo: An Android tablet with identical design and 10.5-inch Amoled display, but a new Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 AIE processor, and some other minor changes.
Main Specs
Operating system: Android 9.0 Pie
Screen: 10.5-inch Super Amoled display @2560*1600px
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 AIE
CPU: Octa-Core (4*Cortex [email protected] + 4*Cortex [email protected])
GPU: Adreno 512
RAM: 4GB LPDDR4
ROM: 64GB eMMc 5.1 (supports expansion up to 512GB)
Battery: 3.8V/7700mAh Li-Po battery
Cameras: 5MP front / 8MP main
Wi-Fi: 802.11a/b/g/n, 5GHz/2.4GHz dual-band
Mobile networks: 4G (FDD-LTE/TD-LTE), 3G (CDMA/TD-SCDMA/WCDMA), 2G (GSM)
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 5.0
Ports: USB-C port, 3.5mm headphone jack, MicroSD card slot, pogo pin keyboard port.
Buttons: Power/standby key, volume rocker
Size: 245.9*175.4*7.2mm Weight: 491g
Nice, but unimpressive design
Just like last year’s X, the Alldocube X Neo looks neat and elegant. The metallic rear and curved sides give the slate an air of luxury. But for a 2020 tablet, the bezels around the screen are just a little too big. Alldocube made an argument that big bezels give users enough to grip and hold the tablet to avoid accidental touches, which makes sense, but I still think people would prefer modern designs of the Apple iPad Pro and the Huawei MatePad Pro. A front-facing camera and a light sensor can be found above the display, the rest of the front looks clean, and you won’t even find any branding.
The tablet has a frosted aluminum back, which makes it feel much more premium than the price tag would suggest. Apart from Alldocube’s logo, the camera lens is the only distraction. It’s incredibly clean, simple, and stylish.
When holding horizontally, the left and right edge are each home to dual speakers, and there're also a 3.5mm headphone jack, a Type-C charging port on the left.
On the bottom side of the slate you can also find a pogo pin port, which can be connected to the official keyboard case.
The tablet supports 4G, as well as storage expansion. The SIM card tray is able to carry 2 nano SIM cards or the combination of 1 nano SIM card and a MicroSD card.
There are two physical buttons on the right edge of the slate: a power/standby key and a volume rocker.
The X Neo measures 245.9mm * 175.4mm * 7.2mm, and weighs 489g. It does not fit in our hands as well as those 8-inchers do, and you can basically forget about one-handed use, but the device didn’t burden our hands too much, either, thanks to the slim and lightweight build. As thin as it is, the X Neo still feels quite robust, even physically twisting the tablet doesn’t reveal excess movement. The overall build quality of this slate is as good as many high-end products in the market.
One thing that does bother me is the absence of a fingerprint reader, which I loved on last year’s X. I even called Alldocube for their reason regarding the removal of this feature. Their marketing person claimed that the majority of users don’t use their tablets for online payments, so a tablet doesn’t need the same level of security as a smartphone or a laptop. I do understand their point: the absence of a fingerprint reader is not a deal breaker for most tablet users, and the brand can save the cost for more essential features such as 4G connectivity, yet I would have preferred a more convenient way to unlock the screen, instead of having to put in some PIN code or draw a certain pattern.
Stunning Screen, average sound
The Alldocube X Neo sports a gorgeous 10.5-inch Super Amoled display made by Samsung. Resolution clocks in at 2,560 by 1,600, for 287 pixels per inch. With deep, inky blacks and rich colors, the display is really a joy to look at. Color accuracy is also excellent, and the screen is bright enough to use in any scenario.
Although the X Neo’s display uses the standard PenTile RGBW matrix, instead of the more celebrated 'PenTile Diamond Pixel' array, sharpness is still good and, while I don’t think color calibration or the screen architecture match Samsung’s latest flagship smartphones, this is still one of the best screens you’ll find in a tablet, and is definitely superior to the LCD panels used on the Huawei MatePad Pro and the Apple iPad Pro.
Not just videos and photos look great. The lightweight nature means it’s also an excellent ebook reader alternative, and great for gaming. I read for many hours using the Amazon Kindle app, and provided I changed the background color from white to a paper-like tone, it didn’t tire my eyes. The light, easy-to-hold body allows for extended play sessions when gaming, too. Asphalt 9 is fun, and it’s visually enhanced thanks to the stunning colors and screen.
The Alldocube X Neo offers side-firing stereo speakers, which can go very loud. Unfortunately, these built-in speakers can sound a little harsh at the highest volume, and lacks the bass and soundstage produced by the Quad AKG tuned speakers found on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e. Still, they are much better than similarly priced Android slates and are definitely good enough for YouTube and Tik Tok. For audiophiles, headphones or external speakers are still very much needed for music and action films.
Although the X Neo has a 3.5mm headphone jack, it is not powered by the AKM 4376A DAC like last year’s Alldocube X was. The tablet works well with average headphones, only when you plug in a power-hungry professional headset with higher impedance will you start to notice some differences. If you don’t even own headphones above $200, this shouldn’t even be anything to think about.
System & UI
The X Neo ships with stock Android 9 Pie, not the latest Android 10, and there’s customization on top. As much as we love the clean feel of stock Android, it is not optimized for a tablet screen, especially a big, 10.5-inch one.
You won’t find anything similar to Samsung tablets’ DeX mode. The stock screen-split function works fine with most applications, but it doesn’t really give you that kind of computing experience the DeX mode offers when there are serious productivity tasks at hand.
Unfortunately, the Android ecosystem is going towards a direction which is less and less tablet-friendly. Many of the customized tablet applications in Play Store were released years ago and haven’t been updated for a long time. As a result, most of the apps we tried on the X Neo were just phone apps blown up to fill the 10.5-inch screen, with the majority of them only supporting vertical mode. The ideal solution would be something like the Phoenix OS, which turns Android OS into a multi-window desktop style user interface, but Alldocube doesn’t seem too keen on shipping their tablets with that operating system.
Decent performance
The Alldocube X Neo is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 AIE processor, which has an octa-core CPU (4 Cores of Cortex-A72 clocked at 2.2GHz and 4 cores of Cortex-A53 clocked at 1.8GHz) and an Adreno 512 GPU. This chipset was actually released way back in 2017 and built on 14nm process, so it is relatively old, and doesn’t match the performance of the Snapdragon 675 or Kirin 810 found in many entry-level Android smartphones. But compared to the 28nm MediaTek 8176 processor in last year’s Alldocube X, it is still a solid upgrade.
The X Neo notched typical “Snapdragon 660” scores in many benchmark tests I threw at it, but it even bettered the Snapdragon 670 powered Samsung Galaxy S5e in some of those tests, which came as a pleasant surprise.
The built-in storage is eMMc 5.1, which is not comparable to UFS storages in top smartphones, but the X did manage to get a result similar to the readings of more expensive midrange tablets such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e in terms of Sequential Read and Write speeds in the Androbench test.
In the real-world use, the Snapdragon 660 processor and 4GB RAM are actually enough to drive the tablet for the tasks it is intended for. The X Neo is smooth and responsive most of the time, I had no issues watching 4K YouTube videos in Chrome, and scrolling through my best friends’ Instagram posts at the same time. With that said, there will be some noticeable hiccups when you open too many image-heavy webpages, or have several big applications running in the background.
Gaming should not be your main reason to buy a Snapdragon 660 powered tablet. With that said, the tablet can run most games installed from Play Store without issues, but in order to have a smooth visual experience, you need to use moderate settings in big titles such as Asphalt 9 and PUBG. If you insist on going for the highest level of animation and 3D effects, you should expect frameskip and serious delays.
Superb connectivity
The X Neo supports dual-band Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0 and 4G, you can even use it to make phone calls, but you need to hear voices either through headphones or the built-in speakers, since the tablet doesn’t have an earpiece.
With such an amazing display, more users will be tempted to store a lot of media files in their X Neo, thus the 64GB built-in storage might not suffice. Fortunately, this tablet supports storage expansion, you can insert a MicroSD card up to 512GB. Even better, the type-C port can also mount most mobile SSD drives.
Basic cameras
There are two cameras on the X Neo, a front-facing 5MP camera and an 8MP main camera. Those cameras can be useful for video-chatting, and scanning QR code, but you won’t want to “archive your life” with them. Even in perfectly-lit conditions, most photos I took with the main camera were either over-exposed or under-exposed, and there wasn’t much life to them. In low light, the photos were simply horrible. In an era when most entry-level smartphones come with triple or quad camera setups, there is really no place for tablet photography.
Selfie camera shot
Main camera shot
Subpar battery life, decent charging speed
The Alldocube X Neo houses a 7700mAh Li-Po battery, smaller than the X’s 8000mAh. But with a much more efficient processor, the X Neo can give me around 7-8 hours’ screen time on a full charge, while the X could only last around 6 hours.
With display brightness and speaker volume both set at 50%, the X Neo scored 7 hours and 25 minutes in the PCMark 8 Work 2.0 Battery test, which was really not impressive compared to other midrange tablets.
This X Neo supports Qualcomm’s 18W QC3.0 quick charge. With the stock wall charger, you can fully charge the tablet’s 7700mAh battery in around 3 hours, not bad considering how big the battery is. In comparison, the 2020 Apple iPad Pro also supports 18W charging, but Samsung’s Galaxy Tab S6 and S5e only support 15W charging. The MatePad Pro is the reigning king in terms of charging speed, as it supports Huawei’s very own 40W SuperCharge, but the cheaper MatePad 10.4 doesn’t have that feature, as it also ships with an 18W charger.
Verdict: great for media consumption
The Alldocube X Neo isn’t designed to break any new grounds, but it is an Android tablet which gets a lot of essential things right. It has a sharp and colorful display, which makes it perfect for video streaming, web-browsing and even light gaming. The Snapdragon 660 AIE processor is old, but still offers decent performance for basic everyday tasks. 4G connectivity means the tablet won’t be limited to places with connectable Wi-Fi hotspot.
However, the removal of the fingerprint reader is not really a smart move. Also, the Chinese brand doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to after-sale support, most of their tablets stop receiving firmware upgrades a few months after the release. The X Neo will probably never be upgraded to Android 10, let alone Android R, something you need to bear in mind before making a purchase.
To sum it up, if media playback is your main focus, the X Neo is really an easy recommendation, in fact you won’t find anything that’s visually on par with this slate in the same price range. But if you use your tablet for more mixed purposes, there are a few other offerings you should look at before reaching into your pocket to get the X Neo.
Can it install google play or service?
I buy this tablet, try to install google service,but it's error.
Did someone install it successfully?
Hope twrp can support, and there is a new rom
domon1116 said:
I buy this tablet, try to install google service,but it's error.
Did someone install it successfully?
Hope twrp can support, and there is a new rom
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I ran into the same problems, seems the current ROM isn't compatible with GMS. Alldocube is working on it.
Jupit3r said:
I ran into the same problems, seems the current ROM isn't compatible with GMS. Alldocube is working on it.
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you can download the gms rom with google service in this link:https://www.alldocube.com/en/firmware/alldocube-xneot1009-firmware-download/
wangyiling said:
you can download the gms rom with google service in this link:https://www.alldocube.com/en/firmware/alldocube-xneot1009-firmware-download/
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Wow, many thanks!
Hi. Any full tutorial to flash?
I just received today. But the rom no google play.
As i see in tutorial. To connect to Qfill in tutorial. The tablet must boot to 9008 mode (press volume up and down button and power) after i press the tablet goes death black screen. I try to power up no response. Any tips?
Jubet said:
Hi. Any full tutorial to flash?
I just received today. But the rom no google play.
As i see in tutorial. To connect to Qfill in tutorial. The tablet must boot to 9008 mode (press volume up and down button and power) after i press the tablet goes death black screen. I try to power up no response. Any tips?
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the CPU of this tablet is Qualcomm Snapdragon 660. The operation of firmware flashing in the 9008 mode is exactly the same as the other Snapdragon 660 mobile phones. The operation of QFIL tool is universally, and the problems encountered are the same. You can find many references on the xda forum or youtube
If the tablet just enters 9008 mode, the flashing does not started, long press the power button should be able to reset the machine, and boot.
If the flashing has already started, and it was interrupted, as long as the tablet can enter 9008 mode, continue to use QFIL tool to re-flash the firmware
hi to all,
i would use this nice tablet about smart working.
The needed is exporting, via usb-c to hdmi cable, the display on LG 32UL950-W monitor.
But without luck, until now.
Black screen. Any suggests ?
It seems, reading specs on official site at url , that is supported HDMI output.
I've tried with a usb-c HUB and no luck.
Any tips to follow ? Thanks everyone for your patience.
Nicola.
How to unlock bootloader & root device?
sis3002001 said:
How to unlock?
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password
sis3002001 said:
How to unlock bootloader & root device?
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1. go into the Settings > System > Developer options menu and enable the OEM unlocking
2.use adb command let tablet go into fastbootmode:adb reboot bootloader
3.use fastboot command to unlock:fastboot flashing unlock
4.about root,use magsik app to patch the origin boot.img ,and use fastboot command flash the modified boot.img:fastboot flash boot xxx.img,and at last install magisk app.
wangyiling said:
1. go into the Settings > System > Developer options menu and enable the OEM unlocking
2.use adb command let tablet go into fastbootmode:adb reboot bootloader
3.use fastboot command to unlock:fastboot flashing unlock
4.about root,use magsik app to patch the origin boot.img ,and use fastboot command flash the modified boot.img:fastboot flash boot xxx.img,and at last install magisk app.
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Can we update after unlocking and rooting ?
And someone here tryed to get GCAM working ? Perhaps we can get better pictures.
Perhaps an old Stable Gcam can work ? (Camera2api enabled in Hardware).
I just waiting for shipment of this Device.
greatz....
majo3000 said:
Can we update after unlocking and rooting ?
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As is the case with most Android devices that can be unlocked, the unlock persists across updates. The unlocking is of the Bootloader, which is a separate partition from System, Data, etc. When you update the System (OS), the bootloader will remain unlocked. The only exception to this would be perhaps if the OS maintainer wanted to ensure the device was always locked, they may update the bootloader with a re-lock mechanism. But this is rare, and certainly not the case with the Alldocube.
Jupit3r said:
The good:
1. Nice build quality.
2. Vibrant, clear and sharp display.
3. Decent performance.
4. MicroSD card support.
5. 4G and Phone functions.
The bad:
1. Old processor.
2. Big bezels.
3. No fingerprint reader or face unlock.
4. Sub-par battery life.
The Alldocube X released last year enjoyed enormous success on Indiegogo. With its dazzling 10.5-inch 2K Super Amoled display, stereo speakers, and AKM AK4376A powered 3.5mm headphone jack, the X was considered by many to be a perfect choice for media consumption. Unfortunately, it was hold back by a relatively weak processor (Mediatek MT8176 SoC) and poor battery life.
By the end of 2019, Alldocube announced its partnership with Qualcomm, the world’s leading mobile chip maker. Many were hoping that the Chinese brand could release an upgraded version of the X with a Snapdragon processor in it. And here comes the X Neo: An Android tablet with identical design and 10.5-inch Amoled display, but a new Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 AIE processor, and some other minor changes.
Main Specs
Operating system: Android 9.0 Pie
Screen: 10.5-inch Super Amoled display @2560*1600px
Processor: Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 AIE
CPU: Octa-Core (4*Cortex [email protected] + 4*Cortex [email protected])
GPU: Adreno 512
RAM: 4GB LPDDR4
ROM: 64GB eMMc 5.1 (supports expansion up to 512GB)
Battery: 3.8V/7700mAh Li-Po battery
Cameras: 5MP front / 8MP main
Wi-Fi: 802.11a/b/g/n, 5GHz/2.4GHz dual-band
Mobile networks: 4G (FDD-LTE/TD-LTE), 3G (CDMA/TD-SCDMA/WCDMA), 2G (GSM)
Bluetooth: Bluetooth 5.0
Ports: USB-C port, 3.5mm headphone jack, MicroSD card slot, pogo pin keyboard port.
Buttons: Power/standby key, volume rocker
Size: 245.9*175.4*7.2mm Weight: 491g
Nice, but unimpressive design
Just like last year’s X, the Alldocube X Neo looks neat and elegant. The metallic rear and curved sides give the slate an air of luxury. But for a 2020 tablet, the bezels around the screen are just a little too big. Alldocube made an argument that big bezels give users enough to grip and hold the tablet to avoid accidental touches, which makes sense, but I still think people would prefer modern designs of the Apple iPad Pro and the Huawei MatePad Pro. A front-facing camera and a light sensor can be found above the display, the rest of the front looks clean, and you won’t even find any branding.
The tablet has a frosted aluminum back, which makes it feel much more premium than the price tag would suggest. Apart from Alldocube’s logo, the camera lens is the only distraction. It’s incredibly clean, simple, and stylish.
When holding horizontally, the left and right edge are each home to dual speakers, and there're also a 3.5mm headphone jack, a Type-C charging port on the left.
On the bottom side of the slate you can also find a pogo pin port, which can be connected to the official keyboard case.
The tablet supports 4G, as well as storage expansion. The SIM card tray is able to carry 2 nano SIM cards or the combination of 1 nano SIM card and a MicroSD card.
There are two physical buttons on the right edge of the slate: a power/standby key and a volume rocker.
The X Neo measures 245.9mm * 175.4mm * 7.2mm, and weighs 489g. It does not fit in our hands as well as those 8-inchers do, and you can basically forget about one-handed use, but the device didn’t burden our hands too much, either, thanks to the slim and lightweight build. As thin as it is, the X Neo still feels quite robust, even physically twisting the tablet doesn’t reveal excess movement. The overall build quality of this slate is as good as many high-end products in the market.
One thing that does bother me is the absence of a fingerprint reader, which I loved on last year’s X. I even called Alldocube for their reason regarding the removal of this feature. Their marketing person claimed that the majority of users don’t use their tablets for online payments, so a tablet doesn’t need the same level of security as a smartphone or a laptop. I do understand their point: the absence of a fingerprint reader is not a deal breaker for most tablet users, and the brand can save the cost for more essential features such as 4G connectivity, yet I would have preferred a more convenient way to unlock the screen, instead of having to put in some PIN code or draw a certain pattern.
Stunning Screen, average sound
The Alldocube X Neo sports a gorgeous 10.5-inch Super Amoled display made by Samsung. Resolution clocks in at 2,560 by 1,600, for 287 pixels per inch. With deep, inky blacks and rich colors, the display is really a joy to look at. Color accuracy is also excellent, and the screen is bright enough to use in any scenario.
Although the X Neo’s display uses the standard PenTile RGBW matrix, instead of the more celebrated 'PenTile Diamond Pixel' array, sharpness is still good and, while I don’t think color calibration or the screen architecture match Samsung’s latest flagship smartphones, this is still one of the best screens you’ll find in a tablet, and is definitely superior to the LCD panels used on the Huawei MatePad Pro and the Apple iPad Pro.
Not just videos and photos look great. The lightweight nature means it’s also an excellent ebook reader alternative, and great for gaming. I read for many hours using the Amazon Kindle app, and provided I changed the background color from white to a paper-like tone, it didn’t tire my eyes. The light, easy-to-hold body allows for extended play sessions when gaming, too. Asphalt 9 is fun, and it’s visually enhanced thanks to the stunning colors and screen.
The Alldocube X Neo offers side-firing stereo speakers, which can go very loud. Unfortunately, these built-in speakers can sound a little harsh at the highest volume, and lacks the bass and soundstage produced by the Quad AKG tuned speakers found on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e. Still, they are much better than similarly priced Android slates and are definitely good enough for YouTube and Tik Tok. For audiophiles, headphones or external speakers are still very much needed for music and action films.
Although the X Neo has a 3.5mm headphone jack, it is not powered by the AKM 4376A DAC like last year’s Alldocube X was. The tablet works well with average headphones, only when you plug in a power-hungry professional headset with higher impedance will you start to notice some differences. If you don’t even own headphones above $200, this shouldn’t even be anything to think about.
System & UI
The X Neo ships with stock Android 9 Pie, not the latest Android 10, and there’s customization on top. As much as we love the clean feel of stock Android, it is not optimized for a tablet screen, especially a big, 10.5-inch one.
You won’t find anything similar to Samsung tablets’ DeX mode. The stock screen-split function works fine with most applications, but it doesn’t really give you that kind of computing experience the DeX mode offers when there are serious productivity tasks at hand.
Unfortunately, the Android ecosystem is going towards a direction which is less and less tablet-friendly. Many of the customized tablet applications in Play Store were released years ago and haven’t been updated for a long time. As a result, most of the apps we tried on the X Neo were just phone apps blown up to fill the 10.5-inch screen, with the majority of them only supporting vertical mode. The ideal solution would be something like the Phoenix OS, which turns Android OS into a multi-window desktop style user interface, but Alldocube doesn’t seem too keen on shipping their tablets with that operating system.
Decent performance
The Alldocube X Neo is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 660 AIE processor, which has an octa-core CPU (4 Cores of Cortex-A72 clocked at 2.2GHz and 4 cores of Cortex-A53 clocked at 1.8GHz) and an Adreno 512 GPU. This chipset was actually released way back in 2017 and built on 14nm process, so it is relatively old, and doesn’t match the performance of the Snapdragon 675 or Kirin 810 found in many entry-level Android smartphones. But compared to the 28nm MediaTek 8176 processor in last year’s Alldocube X, it is still a solid upgrade.
The X Neo notched typical “Snapdragon 660” scores in many benchmark tests I threw at it, but it even bettered the Snapdragon 670 powered Samsung Galaxy S5e in some of those tests, which came as a pleasant surprise.
The built-in storage is eMMc 5.1, which is not comparable to UFS storages in top smartphones, but the X did manage to get a result similar to the readings of more expensive midrange tablets such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab S5e in terms of Sequential Read and Write speeds in the Androbench test.
In the real-world use, the Snapdragon 660 processor and 4GB RAM are actually enough to drive the tablet for the tasks it is intended for. The X Neo is smooth and responsive most of the time, I had no issues watching 4K YouTube videos in Chrome, and scrolling through my best friends’ Instagram posts at the same time. With that said, there will be some noticeable hiccups when you open too many image-heavy webpages, or have several big applications running in the background.
Gaming should not be your main reason to buy a Snapdragon 660 powered tablet. With that said, the tablet can run most games installed from Play Store without issues, but in order to have a smooth visual experience, you need to use moderate settings in big titles such as Asphalt 9 and PUBG. If you insist on going for the highest level of animation and 3D effects, you should expect frameskip and serious delays.
Superb connectivity
The X Neo supports dual-band Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0 and 4G, you can even use it to make phone calls, but you need to hear voices either through headphones or the built-in speakers, since the tablet doesn’t have an earpiece.
With such an amazing display, more users will be tempted to store a lot of media files in their X Neo, thus the 64GB built-in storage might not suffice. Fortunately, this tablet supports storage expansion, you can insert a MicroSD card up to 512GB. Even better, the type-C port can also mount most mobile SSD drives.
Basic cameras
There are two cameras on the X Neo, a front-facing 5MP camera and an 8MP main camera. Those cameras can be useful for video-chatting, and scanning QR code, but you won’t want to “archive your life” with them. Even in perfectly-lit conditions, most photos I took with the main camera were either over-exposed or under-exposed, and there wasn’t much life to them. In low light, the photos were simply horrible. In an era when most entry-level smartphones come with triple or quad camera setups, there is really no place for tablet photography.
Selfie camera shot
Main camera shot
Subpar battery life, decent charging speed
The Alldocube X Neo houses a 7700mAh Li-Po battery, smaller than the X’s 8000mAh. But with a much more efficient processor, the X Neo can give me around 7-8 hours’ screen time on a full charge, while the X could only last around 6 hours.
With display brightness and speaker volume both set at 50%, the X Neo scored 7 hours and 25 minutes in the PCMark 8 Work 2.0 Battery test, which was really not impressive compared to other midrange tablets.
This X Neo supports Qualcomm’s 18W QC3.0 quick charge. With the stock wall charger, you can fully charge the tablet’s 7700mAh battery in around 3 hours, not bad considering how big the battery is. In comparison, the 2020 Apple iPad Pro also supports 18W charging, but Samsung’s Galaxy Tab S6 and S5e only support 15W charging. The MatePad Pro is the reigning king in terms of charging speed, as it supports Huawei’s very own 40W SuperCharge, but the cheaper MatePad 10.4 doesn’t have that feature, as it also ships with an 18W charger.
Verdict: great for media consumption
The Alldocube X Neo isn’t designed to break any new grounds, but it is an Android tablet which gets a lot of essential things right. It has a sharp and colorful display, which makes it perfect for video streaming, web-browsing and even light gaming. The Snapdragon 660 AIE processor is old, but still offers decent performance for basic everyday tasks. 4G connectivity means the tablet won’t be limited to places with connectable Wi-Fi hotspot.
However, the removal of the fingerprint reader is not really a smart move. Also, the Chinese brand doesn’t have the best track record when it comes to after-sale support, most of their tablets stop receiving firmware upgrades a few months after the release. The X Neo will probably never be upgraded to Android 10, let alone Android R, something you need to bear in mind before making a purchase.
To sum it up, if media playback is your main focus, the X Neo is really an easy recommendation, in fact you won’t find anything that’s visually on par with this slate in the same price range. But if you use your tablet for more mixed purposes, there are a few other offerings you should look at before reaching into your pocket to get the X Neo.
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Thank you for the review
I'd be interested in knowing which version of the device you have had the opportunity to test (of particular interest is the 4G Network Support). The reason for this is that when comparing the information provided regarding 4G Network Support for the Alldocube X Neo tablet, there are significant differences between information provided on the manufacturer's Chinese website and, respectively, the Global (English) one.
Referring to the information provided on the following webpages (though the former in Chinese only, but one can still determine which the listed/enumerated frequency bands in question are)
Chinese:
https://www.51cube.com/parm/xneo-parm/
International:
https://www.alldocube.com/en/parm/xneo-parm/
It has been rather challenging trying to find out which versions there actually are available (e.g. Chinese and/or Global) from the sellers that offers the Alldocube X Neo tablet for purchase, nevertheless based on the information presented and available on the manufacturer's Chinese and Global website respectively, one should be allowed to expect there to exist (at least) two different versions with regard to the 4G Network Support.
Concerning these circumstances I'd like to ask were you able to verify which 4G network bands the shipped device actually supported?
More details on working being done to root with Magisk, install TWRP, and install LineageOS can be found at this forum:
https://hardforum.com/threads/alldocube-x-neo.1998171/
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More details on working being done to root with Magisk, install TWRP, and install LineageOS can be found at this forum:
https://hardforum.com/threads/alldocube-x-neo.1998171/
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Thanks for linking to my thread
I have GCam working.We have Camera2api Level3 . Okay the Camera is not so good.But with GCam i get better details with less Noise.
Also EIS is working with GCAM.
I used Pixelcam-brazil.
I will test more and upload soon my configs for Gcam.
someone knows how to get HDMI via USB-C working ? i buyed a Adapter but it didnt run.
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someone knows how to get HDMI via USB-C working ? i buyed a Adapter but it didnt run.
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i have try also but not working.
Is there already a compatible and optimized custom rom that I can install on this device?

In depth review of the Lenovo Tab P11 and Tab P11 Pro

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The good:
1. Solid build quality.
2. Vibrant, clear and sharp display.
3. MicroSD card support.
4. Amazing battery life.
5. Productivity Mode (PC Mode) is good for office tasks.
The bad:
1. Performance isn’t the best.
2. No fingerprint reader on the Tab P11.
Yes, Android tablet is still a thing in 2020, and we’ve seen a variety of slates being released this year. From solid entry-level slates like the Alldocube iPlay30, to versatile midrange devices like the Honor V6, then to the most cutting-edge powerhouses like the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 Plus, consumers with different budgets could all find the right tablet for themselves.
Lenovo released two Android tablets recently: Lenovo Tab P11 and Tab P11 Pro. The Pro Edition was clearly more celebrated because of its fabulous 11.5-inch OLED display, quad JBL speakers and Snapdragon 730G processor. But both of them come with decent specs for their price tags, and have the potential of being real contenders.
Before we start, I have to say that I bought both tablets, one for myself, and the other for my partner, as they are extremely cheap here in China: the P11 Pro retails for RMB1,999.00 ($305), and the P11 is as cheap as RMB1,299.00($198). So, this review is NOT paid or sponsored in any way, and everything I have written here is based on my real experience.
Impressive design
Both the Tab P11 and Tab P11 pro look neat and elegant. The metallic rear and slim build give the slates an air of luxury.
The P11 has bigger bezels, and is also thicker than the P11 Pro does, but both still look like 2020 tablets which could easily blow the Huawei Matepad 10.8 out of the water in terms of aesthetics.
The Tab P11 Pro has a frosted aluminum back, which makes it feel much more premium than its tag would suggest. Apart from the Dolby Atomos Logo, the camera lens and LED are the only distractions. It’s incredibly clean, simple, and stylish. The P11’s back side looks a little bit more interesting, as half of it is actually plastic. According to Lenovo, the main goal of this design is to allow better WiFi reception, rather than saving cost.
Both tablets have 3 physical buttons: power/standby, volume+, volume-. The power key of the Tab P11 Pro also serves as a fingerprint reader, which makes unlocking the screen a lot easier. Both tablets support 2D face unlock, which is almost as fast as fingerprint recognition, although definitely less secure. The P11 Pro has an infrared camera, which works like a charm in low light conditions. The standard P11 doesn’t have one and, as a result, its front camera often struggles to recognize my partner’s face in low light, and he constantly has to turn to PIN to unlock the screen.
Both tablets have a multi-function USB-C port, which can be used for charging, data transmission, video and audio output. The P11 Pro’s Type-C port is of USB3.1 standard, which allows faster data transfer than the USB2.0 Type-C port on the P11. Also, both of them have a MicroSD card slot which supports cards up to 512GB. Neither tablet has a 3.5mm audio jack, if you intend on using wired headphones on them, you will need an adapter. Fortunately, the Tab P11 Pro comes with one, while the cheaper Tab P11 does not.
The P11 and P11 Pro each has a pogo pin port on its bottom side, which can be connected to their respective official keyboard case. The tablets also support stylus with 4096 levels of pressure sensitivity. I haven’t got one yet because both the official pen and keyboards are out of stock in China.
The build quality of the Tab P11 Pro is extremely solid, and could even rival much more expensive slates such as the iPad Air 4, the Galaxy Tab S7, and the Huawei MatePad Pro. The P11 does feel less premium than the Pro edition, due to its bigger bezels and slightly thicker body, but it still feels a lot studier than other tablets in the same price range, such as the Honor Pad 6 and Teclast M40.
Screen and Sound
Both tablets have wonderful displays.
The Tab P11 Pro sports a gorgeous 11.5-inch OLED display with Dolby Vision and HDR10. Resolution clocks in at 2,560 by 1,600, for 214 pixels per inch (PenTile). With deep, inky blacks and rich colors, the display is really a joy to look at, and the screen has a brightness level of up to 500nit.
The Tab P11’s 11-inch, 2000*1200px IPS LCD panel is undoubtedly less impressive when compared to the Pro edition, but it’s still a good-enough display for almost any scenario. Somehow I even find the P11’s display better suited for reading.
Both tablets come with quad speakers, but the P11 Pro’s JBL certified speakers are not only louder, but offer deeper bass, fuller and more layered midrange, and brighter treble. With that said, even the built-in speakers of the standard P11 can easily beat average laptops in terms of volume and overall sound quality. Even my HP Elitebook 745G, which sported a Bang&Olufsen speaker, delivers smaller and tinnier sound than the Tab P11.
System & UI
I bought both the Tab P11 and Tab P11 Pro in China, so they both came with Lenovo’s very own ZUI, a heavily customized skin on top of Android 10. The international editions of these slates will ship with stock Android OS, with only a few twists here and there. I installed the international firmware on the Lenovo Tab P11 Pro for better support for Google apps, but kept ZUI on the standard P11 as it is a gift for my partner, who can’t care less about YouTube or Netflix as he finds enough joy with Chinese counterparts such as bilibili and Watermelon Video.
Unfortunately, the Android ecosystem is going towards a direction which is less and less tablet-friendly. Many of the customized tablet applications in Play Store were released years ago and haven’t been updated for a long time. As a result, most of the apps I ran on these tablets were just phone apps blown up to fill tablet screens, and many of these apps only support vertical mode.
However, Lenovo has designed ”PC Mode” for its ZUI, and “Productivity Mode” for its international interface, These desktop modes work very much like Samsung’s DeX mode. You will get a taskbar similar to the one on Chrome OS and Windows 10. On the left side of the taskbar are the three classic Android keys: Back, Home and Multi-tasking, you can use them to control the running applications. You will also get a shortcut to open the application drawer. What really makes Productivity Mode/PC Mode so special is their ability to run multiple apps in windows. You can browse through Emails, chat on Skype and watch a movie simultaneously. You will almost feel like you are using Windows instead of Android.
Thanks to the keyboard shortcuts and right-click menus, the Tab P11 and P11 Pro feel much more productive than average smartphones and tablets. For instance, you can copy texts from a webpage and instantly paste them into office apps or social networking apps.
Performance
At the core of the Tab P11 Pro is Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 730G chipset, which is built on 8nm process, has an octa-core CPU (4 Cores of Cortex-A76 clocked at 2.2GHz and 4 cores of Cortex-A55 clocked at 1.8GHz) and Adreno 618 GPU. The Tab P11, on the other hand, is powered by an older, and relatively weaker Snapdragon 662 chipset, which is built on 11nm process and also has an octa-core CPU (4 Cores of Cortex-A72 clocked at 2.0GHz and 4 cores of Cortex-A53 clocked at 1.8GHz) and Adreno 610 GPU. Neither of these two processors are real powerhouses, and benchmarks tell the story.
To help you better understand the performance of these slates, I also listed the benchmark scores of other midrange and entry-level tablets for comparison.
As can be told in the sheets above, the Lenovo Tab P11 Pro’s is in the same ballpark with the Kirin 810 powered Huawei Matepad 10.4 when it comes to overall performance, while the Tab P11’s horsepower is on par with other tablets in the same price range.
Both the Tab P11 and Tab P11 Pro features the same 128GB UFS2.1 storage, which should be much faster than eMMc drives in terms of speed. In the Androbench test, the P11 and P11 Pro handily beats the Huawei MatePad 10.4 and Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite in terms of Sequential Read Speed, but slightly fall short in Sequential Write Speed.
In the real-world use, both tablets can easily handle everyday tablet tasks with ease. I experienced no issues watching videos in the YouTube App, and editing photos in Snapseed at the same time. With that said, the Tab P11 Pro does feel a bit faster opening bigger applications and loading heavier webpages, but differences can only be perceived when I am running the same tasks on them side by side. Each of them feels fast enough for the tasks it is designed for.
Intense gaming should not be your main reason to buy an Android tablet, as most games are designed for phones and will be difficult to control on a 10+ inch screen. With that said, both tablets can run most games installed from Play Store without issues, but in order to have a smooth visual experience, you need to use moderate settings in some of the big titles. The Tab P11 has a weaker GPU of the two, but it is still able to run “Arena of Valor” and “PUBG” in mid settings smoothly.
Cameras
Cameras are not something I would be concerned about when choosing a tablet, with that said, I still want them to be as high-quality as possible. Both the P11 and P11 Pro come with a very decent 8MP selfie camera, but only the latter has an infrared camera by the side. The P11 Pro rocks dual rear-facing cameras: a 13MP main sensor and a 5MP ultra-wide lens, while the P11 only has a 13MP main shooter on the back.
The quality of their selfie cameras is more than enough for video chatting, and both tablets have the capability of taking clear and color-rich photos with their main camera setup in decent lighting conditions. However, as smartphone cameras are getting so good these days, who really need a 11-inch tablet for photography?
Battery Life and Charging
The Tab P11 features a 7,700mAh Li-Po battery, while the P11 Pro has a larger 8,250mAh battery under the hood. With display brightness and speaker volume both set at 50%, the P11 and P11 Pro lasted 11 hours, 37 minutes and 13 hours, 5 minutes respectively in our battery rundown test in which we played a 1080P local video on loop.
Both the P11 and P11 Pro support Qualcomm’s QC3.0 quick charge, and they both come with a 20W wall charger, but only the Snapdragon 730G powered P11 Pro can take full advantage of charging in 20W, the standard P11 only supports 18W charging at maximum.
Both tablets can be fully charged (from 0→100%) in around 3 hours.
Verdict
With Snapdragon 730G and Snapdragon 662 inside their respective shells, neither the P11 Pro nor the P11 is a powerhouse, but they are not really designed to be the best-performing tablets or break any new grounds. With that said, both tablets get a lot of essential things right. They each comes with a wonderful display, amazing speakers, and offers decent performance and perfect software optimization for everyday entertainment and productivity tasks. For me, they are easy recommendations for anyone who needs a new and affordable Android tablet.
Great review and recap! kudos
Hello!
Thank you for your review, very interesting.
How did you do to install the international rom in p11 pro? Is it easy?
Regards
I just picked up the p11 pro today 12% off sitewise sale and another 5% off customer coupon. Less than $500 shipping and taxes included for the 6 GB...
da_ny01 said:
Hello!
Thank you for your review, very interesting.
How did you do to install the international rom in p11 pro? Is it easy?
Regards
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Very easy, takes only a few minutes.
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Very easy, takes only a few minutes.
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Thank you! I will investigate about it. After installing the international rom, will it receive OTA updates normally or is necesary to repit the proccess to get the last rom?
Regards
I would also be interested in learning how to install the international ROM. I've tried once using the Qfil tool, but it beat me. How did you do it?
Also, I'm typing thisnon the Chinese Xiaoxin Pad Pro model of this tablet right now, and I can't get over how grainy text appears on this screen. Noticeably worse than my 4 year old Asus tablet when reading. I thought this screen would be amazing, and I'm considering returning it. Did you experience this at all?
Great review Jupit3r, thank you.
Thirdgenie said:
I would also be interested in learning how to install the international ROM. I've tried once using the Qfil tool, but it beat me. How did you do it?
Also, I'm typing thisnon the Chinese Xiaoxin Pad Pro model of this tablet right now, and I can't get over how grainy text appears on this screen. Noticeably worse than my 4 year old Asus tablet when reading. I thought this screen would be amazing, and I'm considering returning it. Did you experience this at all?
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You can use Lenovo’s Rescue & Smart Assistant (LMSA) software to flash the P11 Pro firmware. I chose the “Power-off Mode Rescue” option > https://support.lenovo.com/uk/en/downloads/ds101291/ . LMSA can download the firmware but you can also manually download it from here > https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/lenovo/Tab_P11_Pro/TB-J706F/
I’ve seen some issues reported with LMSA (seems to be related to having older versions of Windows and/or hardware). If you want to try again with QPST/ QFIL, then this (Google translated) thread is the best information I can find > https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=605&t=6227500
However, the tablet has a different serial number format to the international models and will be identified as a TB-J706F_PRC. The only consequence I’ve noticed (so far) is the need to sideload Netflix, as Google Play lists Netflix as “no longer compatible”. The reason why is perhaps important to note: the Xiaoxin Pad Pro’s “Play Protect Certification” status is “Device Not Certified”. I haven’t found other apps (so far) that refuse to install or work however. Some apps may stop working and/or won’t update in the future though, if app developers choose, or or are forced, to implement this (a CTS profile check).
The other issue I’ve noticed is that the tablet sometimes seems to think my finger is an active pen, if I use it when charging and I'm not holding it. This sort of problem (picking up taps as swipes etc. while charging) isn’t unique to this device though. This issue doesn’t really bother me, other than the fact it may indicate further issues down the track (depending on what the exact cause is, I gather).
The lack of Google Play certification makes it hard to recommend buying the Xiaoxin Pad Pro, if the intention is to flash the international ROM. Aside from the two issues above, I really like this tablet - I much prefer the close to stock Android experience, compared to what Samsung do (for example).
I haven’t noticed the font to be particularly bad – but maybe my eyes aren’t as good as yours. Have you tried changing the display and/or font size?
Hello, this global firmware for the Pad Pro doesn't have DC, dimming. Do you know if with Zui firmware has flicker free?
Thank you
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Thank you! I will investigate about it. After installing the international rom, will it receive OTA updates normally or is necesary to repit the proccess to get the last rom?
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Yes, it will receive OTA upgrades.
Hi, Does the global firmware flashed on this tablet support Netflix in Full HD? Does it still have its widevine l1 certification?
Thank you
elventine707 said:
Hi, Does the global firmware flashed on this tablet support Netflix in Full HD? Does it still have its widevine l1 certification?
Thank you
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Yes and yes. The only caveat is that you have to sideload Netflix; you can’t update the preinstalled app via Google Play.
I found another bug with the Tab P11 Pro/Xiaoxin Pad Pro that may be of interest. Using Productivity Mode with a third party launcher seems to break the Recent Apps functionality with third party launchers.
Steps to reproduce:
Install a third party launcher (I’ve tested Nova & Lean Launcher)
Set it as the default launcher
Turn on Productivity Mode
Use the toolbar buttons and resize some app windows (may not be required)
Turn off Productivity Mode
Open an app/apps and try using Recent Apps
I’ve tried restarting the tablet, reinstalling Nova, clearing the default launcher’s cache/storage. I’ve had to revert to the default launcher for now (Smart Launcher).
Hello!
You could try the following to certificate your device:
How to Fix the "Device is not Certified by Google" Error
Are you having trouble with signing in to your Google account? Can't access the Google Play Store or use Google apps like Gmail, Maps, Play Music, or Photos? Seeing a "device is not certified by Google" error? Here's how to fix that.
www.xda-developers.com
Let us know if it works. I will receive a tab p11 pro soon.
Here is another link about how to install international firmware with QFIL:
【国际版系统·刷机】小新 Pad Pro
前言与联想的朋友聊了几句,对方答应送我一部新出的小新 Pad Pro体验一下,当然体验是有代价的,总得表示表示对不?于是就有了这篇文章——的前身。写完评测的开头我就觉得无聊了,这明明只是一个主打性价比、屏幕不错的平板,并不值得大书特书,除此以外还有什么好夸的呢?思来想去我又问了问有没有操作空间,答复是:有,刷国际版系统,对于Google生态用户而言比国内的预装ZUI好用多了。于是这就有了下面内容,当然在开始教程前,简单介绍这部平板。个人主观体验我用来看完了Netflix的新剧Queen\'s Gambit...
news.axiox.net
Regards
Thanks for that
I should probably have mentioned that I did enter my devices GSF Device-ID at https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/ to see what affect that might have. It doesn’t appear to have had any affect; Netflix still has to be sideloaded.
My experience was not the same as per the article. I never received a “device is not certified by Google” warning prior to completing the GSF Device-ID registration. So, perhaps Google have changed the way this is handled – perhaps the warnings don’t appear immediately after you login to your Google account anymore?
Or, perhaps Google has different categories within the “Device Not Certified” designation. I don’t believe that this situation is what play protect certification is really about – the Xiaoxin Pad Pro tablet has identical hardware and (with the ROW ROM installed) identical software to the certified Lenovo Tab P11 Pro. The device is not rooted nor is the bootloader unlocked. Perhaps there is more leeway because of this, or, for large manufactures in general.
I’m not certain as to the exact reason why a TB-J706F_PRC is not certified, given that the Chinese/ZUI ROM *I think* now supports GSM. I’m guessing it’s because Lenovo didn’t submit the TB-J706F_PRC with the ROW firmware for certification – for legal, political or just cost saving reasons?
These tablets are very interesting, thanks for the review. I wanted to ask you please could you extract the system apk from these tablets (clock, calendar, calculator ...) and upload them here or on apk mirror? On apk mirror the zui apks are old. Then I wanted to ask you one more thing, are these system apps the same in both the "zui" and "international" versions? Or in the international version have they been replaced by the google counterpart? Example zui clock and google clock
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I should probably have mentioned that I did enter my devices GSF Device-ID at https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/ to see what affect that might have. It doesn’t appear to have had any affect; Netflix still has to be sideloaded.
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As someone who is following this thread with interest, could you let me know if the sideloaded Netflix still let's you watch stuff in HD?
I'd be very interested in what it shows under App Settings -> playback specification for your device!
Thanks for your input into the thread - great to understand the options here
Tamlyn said:
As someone who is following this thread with interest, could you let me know if the sideloaded Netflix still let's you watch stuff in HD?
I'd be very interested in what it shows under App Settings -> playback specification for your device!
Thanks for your input into the thread - great to understand the options here
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It seems like a lack of Play Protect certification (failing a ctsProfileMatch check) doesn’t affect Widevine/Netflix DRM. I guess there is no guarantee that this will continue to be the case.
From my understanding, any developer can use the SafetyNet Attestation API to:
Hide their app/not allow it to be installed via the Google Play store (this is what Netflix does), AND/OR
Allow their app to run but block certain functions (such as with Google Pay - you can’t run contactless setup)
Block the app from running at all (I think some banking apps do this, but not the ones I use, fortunately)
I’m not really sure why the TB-J706F_PRC fails a ctsProfileMatch check though. I presume it’s because Lenovo didn’t/couldn’t submit the TB-J706F_PRC variant (the Xiaoxin Pad Pro) for verification.
Reading some Chinese/Taiwanese forums (via Google Translate) it seems like the Xiaoxin Pad Pro’s firmware (the original Chinese ROM with ZUI) didn’t support GMS (Google Mobile Services), but an OTA update has since provided support. I guess supporting GMS does not include passing Play Protect certification though.
The other possibility is that just flashing a different ROM is the cause (even when using Lenovo’s official software to flash their official TB-J706F firmware).
Thanks for that @Mattysa - really informative answer.
Given me lots to think about

How To Guide HP Elite X3 Lap Dock working with Z Fold 4 DeX!

Just thought I'd post a little PSA/review for everyone who still has this useful little lap dock:
Short version: IT WORKS!
Longer version: The experience of using DeX with the HP Elite X3 Lap Dock is considerably better on the Z Fold 4 than it was even on the Note 9, which was the device that was popular when many of us discovered this useful little gadget. Many features now work which were previously buggy, or even outright broken.
Most impressive is that trackpad clicks actually WORK now (both left and right click). Previously, only taps registered. Additionally, all pointer speed issues from the Note 9 days appear to be resolved; cursor moves smoothly and evenly. Two-finger scrolling and pinch-to-zoom are also much more reliable.
Also working are USB, media function keys, and the headphone jack. Phone screen no longer randomly turns on when typing either (at least when using stock Samsung keyboard).
Audio is still buggy, as it ever was in the Note 9 days, but it can be made to work with some fiddling. Most reliable seems to be the following sequence: Connect-->Hold Lap Dock power button for 10 sec until dock reboots-->Switch audio to "Display Device" in Media Output menu (right click on volume icon in taskbar). Do not enable the DeX setting to play audio automatically through attached device, that seems to break it.
Overall, though, this device has gone from "Useful with compromises" to "Solid enough to daily-drive" in my book, and I'm excited about the possibilities it opens up. Until Samsung makes their own DeX lap dock, the HP Elite X3 Lap Dock would now seem to be the best DeX laptop out there. I know these devices are no longer as plentiful or as cheap as they once were, but if you still have one left over from a few years ago, it's definitely worth digging out again.
P.S.: A word of caution. My unit is a North American model, product code V8H07UT. These models were historically more compatible with DeX, and I have no way of knowing if this report applies at all to the other dominant type, product code Y1M48EA. Those models were sold primarily in Europe, and other threads have widely reported issues with DeX compatibility on those model #s. If you have a Y1M48EA, I would be very interested to hear if it works now with DeX...who knows how much they've improved the software since the Note 9?
I will try with f3 and f4. Thx.
And now im looking all over to find a cheap one. It would be so cool to use the phone like this
hi all. tell me please - how can I unlock 120 hz mode in Samsung dex? I know that it used to be, then after the update it became 60, but perhaps some information remained in the old kernels. maybe you need a custom kernel...

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