Hi all, I am not sure if this forum is the best place to ask, my question is not device specific I think. But since I've got a OP 9Pro, and I believe people here may have a higher chance of knowing the root problem, so I am trying my luck here.
So I recently purchased the new Macbook air, and I am setting up adb for my OP9 phone. I discovered something .... very confusing to say the least regarding USB type C cables (or ports?). I already know USB Type C standard is quite messy but this is out of my comprehension. And I really hope someone can shed some light on me.
I have a few USB Type C cables and when I connect them to my phone and the Macbook USBC port, Most won't support data transfer and some won't even charge! So I got curious and tested with 3 different USBC cables, and 2 USBC devices ( My OP9 Phone and a Wacom drawing pad), I also connect a USB-C Hub to my Mac and then repeat the experiment with all those cables again. (The USB-C Hub has a USB-C port marked 'PD + Data', see picture attached)
You can find the result table below. A few explanations:
Red cable is the original OnePlus cable; Black cable is a office supplied data cable (looks good quality); and the white cable I'd say is a cheap USBC cable.
Connect via MacBook USBC means the cable in question is connected to the Macbook USBC port directly
Connect vis Hub USBC means the USBC Hub is connected to the Macbook USBC port, and all other devices are then connected via the USB-C port provided by the HUB
For OnePlus 9 Pro, Data means I can see my devices using `adb devices`
For Wacom, Data means I can move/click the mouse cursor with the pad.
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I understand that not all USB Type-C cables are created equal, but at the very least I'd expect they can all charge a phone? It is not the case here. The questions most confused me are:
The Black cable is marked as a data cable, and it can connect to my wacom when I plug it directly to my Mac. My Wacom works as normal, but how come when I connect it to my phone, it's not even charging my phone?
When the Black cable is connected directly to my Mac from my Phone, I accidentally disconnected my MacBook Air's MagSafe power, and guess what happened? My phone is reverse charging the Macbook. WTF? Is there some sort of one-way charging protocol with this black cable?
Why adding the USB-C Hub causes different behaviour? It is clear that the HUB does support data transfer, although only with the Wacom device.
All 3 cables in question can charge my phone if I plug the other end to the apple white USB-C charger that comes with my Mac
Only using the OP red cable can the MacBook detect my phone, why? shouldn't all USB Type C 'data cables' can do that?
Really appreciate any insights!
I don't understand what you are asking or what your problem is.... The OnePlus red cable seems to be the obvious choice for charging and data transfer...
One of the questions would be what's so special about the op cable? Is there some proprietary protocol/chip in the cable that only allows it to communicate, or even charge my phone?
Well, things do get very confusing with power delivery and USB 2/3.
For instance, a USB 3.0 is required to have the USB 2.0 part functional.
But, you can chop that out and some devices in some circumstances will work just fine.
Also, many Type C cables are only USB 2.0, they are missing the four pairs for USB 3.0.
I would think that anything would charge somewhat but there are two major protocols for power negotiation.
One is pulsing on the CC, the other is a carrier on Vbus.
The best thing to do would be to take scissors to all your cables so that we may understand the problem!
newwaylw said:
One of the questions would be what's so special about the op cable? Is there some proprietary protocol/chip in the cable that only allows it to communicate, or even charge my phone?
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The cable and charger that came with the phone is "matched" to the device. To deviate from that is a choice and a gamble that yields mixed results.
TheGhost1951 said:
The cable and charger that came with the phone is "matched" to the device. To deviate from that is a choice and a gamble that yields mixed results.
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Although the stock red cable supports both WARP charge and data transfer, it's only a USB 2.0 protocol, crippling the transfer speed. FYI.
ekin_strops said:
Although the stock red cable supports both WARP charge and data transfer, it's only a USB 2.0 protocol, crippling the transfer speed. FYI.
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But my charge rates are 30% to 100% is less than 1 hour...my data rates between phone and PC are insignificant as to whether to takes 5 mins or 7 mins to transfer 7gb of data...as long as I can charge my phone in a reasonable amount of time and I can transfer data between my phone and PC reasonable, then what if any problem do I have?
Oh, the One Plus 9 also uses its own proprietary protocol for power negotiation.
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Oh, the One Plus 9 also uses its own proprietary protocol for power negotiation.
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So, really what is your complaint, I was for a long time using Samsung devices, and even though I paid for them, I could not unlock the bootloader. It is my phone, I paid for it, but I can't have a custom bootanimation or do what ever with my phone since I paid for it. It was my phone, but we will limit you as to what you can do is what Samsung was saying. Charging and data rate transfer were the least of my problems. My phone my customizations were more important to me..
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Huh? I was just stating a fact.
I don't own a One Plus, I rarely care how fast something charges, but I am interested in USB.
Renate said:
Huh? I was just stating a fact.
I don't own a One Plus, I rarely care how fast something charges, but I am interested in USB.
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Why are you only interested in USB?
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Why are you only interested in USB?
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I'm interested in a few different things.
I just read a book on the Great Trigonometrical Survey (of India, 1802-1871).
And just this morning I disassembled and patched the kernel on my new tablet.
The gambit of chargers and cables is all over the spectrum. Some cables will charge but not do data transfer. It is sometimes a hit and miss proposition that for the most part is a gamble. Not exactly a monumentous problem. Good luck in your endeavor...
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Why are you only interested in USB?
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What are you talking about? She stated a fact, that's it.
No further comment on this subject, it is pointless!
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So far I have learned how to make a USB host cable and a universal charging cable. I have shared this in a few post but I figured it would be good to have them all in one place with a diagram.
I will update this drawing as I learn how to build the other cables.
Thanks goes out to pokey9000 for sharing how to do the USB host and nudging me the right way for figuring out the charging!
Update:
I guess the titles of each is not enough to properly relay what each does so here is a quick description of each.
1. USB Host - Puts the Tab into host mode so that you can use items like thumb drives and keyboards. If you want to use a USB powered hard drive, you will need to use a powered hub.
2. USB Host w/ Power - Puts the Tab into host mode but also allows you to charge the unit at the same time.
3. Universal Charging - For making a 30-pin cable that will let you charge your Tab off any 5V source so that you don't get the red X over the battery. When doing this, data transfers will not work.
4. Universal Charging Inline cable - For if you don't want to buy a 30pin connector or cut up your OEM cable, you can put this in line with your OEM cable and use any 5V source.
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So far I have learned how to make a USB host cable and a universal charging cable. I have shared this in a few post but I figured it would be good to have them all in one place with a diagram.
I will update this drawing as I learn how to build the other cables.
Thanks goes out to pokey9000 for sharing how to do the USB host and nudging me the right way for figuring out the charging!
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Image link is broken, and I'm crazy interested in this. Can't wait to see it when its up. Good Job man
It is my first time linking a picture which you can't just upload, you need to link to an existing online photo.
I think I fixed the problem use ImageShack but if you still have issues viewing, use the below link
GT Cable layouts
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It is my first time linking a picture which you can't just upload, you need to link to an existing online photo.
Try going here. Hopefully this works for you.
GT Cable layouts
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Worked perfectly, thanks. This stuff is so interesting, I can't wait to get home and play
do you have a picture of a real example of the USB host w/power
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do you have a picture of a real example of the USB host w/power
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Not yet. I haven't built the USB host cable myself as my connectors are in the mail. I built that diagram from a mixture of what pokey9000 discovered plus what the pin outs are for the OEM cable.
Hopefully by the end of the week I will get the connector and will build this into a project enclosure which will also have a switch to change this between charge only, USB slave and USB host.
Cool. Seems like it would be easier to just grab a few of these cables, cut the cable and connect rather than soldering to the naked connectors from Kineteka.
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Cool. Seems like it would be easier to just grab a few of these cables, cut the cable and connect rather than soldering to the naked connectors from Kineteka.
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Mostly likely, like the OEM cable, the connector is not fully populated. You would be able to easily make a charge only cable the will charge off anything, but to do other things like USB hosting, you need another pin, or rearrange the pins that are there which are probably a pain to do too.
Ah, true. Most likely lot of those pins don't have wires connected.
This is good stuff. I am looking forward to learning more. Thanks you for doing this.
I had a brain fart.
I know what the usb host w/ power cable would look like. I have parts orderd for the host mode configuration. I hopefully await a hdmi/usb-host cable.
First off, thanks for this awesome discovery !
But I've still got some questions..
what is the difference between the usb host and the usb host w. charging?
And what should the universal charger do?
Thanks!
snaai8 said:
First off, thanks for this awesome discovery !
But I've still got some questions..
what is the difference between the usb host and the usb host w. charging?
And what should the universal charger do?
Thanks!
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The USB host should be pretty much the same as the OEM dongle. The host with power should allow you to charge the unit when also attached to a power supply. I have not tested this but I expect should work without a problem. The reason people might just opt to not have the power is to make a smaller package.
The universal charge cable puts the unit into charge mode no matter what your 5VDC power source is. Without this, you must use the OEM charger (or aftermarket adapter) else get a red X over the battery.
Anyone know if it would be possible to hack a USB port into the multimedia-dock? It has the 30pin male and female.. probably passthru.. I've yet to take it apart (I suspect there are screws on the bottom). Anyhow I figure the dock should work with the USB adapter, so maybe all the wires are there inside the base. Then it would just be a matter of adding a female USB (with appropriate resistor). And possibly this would allow charging, audio, etc WITH USB attached. Best part is that multimedia docks are available at local bestbuy, etc.
alternatively, i'm considering a keyboard <sigh>.. but only if usb host mode works with it.
-jeff
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Anyone know if it would be possible to hack a USB port into the multimedia-dock? It has the 30pin male and female.. probably passthru.. I've yet to take it apart (I suspect there are screws on the bottom). Anyhow I figure the dock should work with the USB adapter, so maybe all the wires are there inside the base. Then it would just be a matter of adding a female USB (with appropriate resistor). And possibly this would allow charging, audio, etc WITH USB attached. Best part is that multimedia docks are available at local bestbuy, etc.
alternatively, i'm considering a keyboard <sigh>.. but only if usb host mode works with it.
-jeff
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I have the dock and like this idea...I will check out it's assembly in a bit and reply back.
UPDATE: YUP (4) philips screws under the pad on the bottom. Will try to get a pic posted.[/QUOTE]
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Great! I am looking forward to seeing just how you do this.
I want know how one would do the hdmi cable, will that be hard to reverse engineer?
This dock is suppose to allow either the HDMI or the USB connector to plug in the back so that means it does pass all this through. This is going to be interesting....
okay a few questions again..
Would it be hard to make a usb keyboard work on the tab (like cutting up the usb cable and replacing it with a 30pin dock connector?)?
And how much effort would it take to create a hdmi out? or a normal video out if possible..? Because I actually need an old video out port but on the samsung site is says that the video out represented is not compatible with the 10.1..
and where do you solder everything on? I've yet to find a picture of the 30pin connector which tells you where to solder..
Where would I solder in this image? http://shop.kineteka.com/images/thumbs/0000564.jpeg
Or should I just get a tab-out like this:
http://shop.kineteka.com/products/200-samsung-tabbreakout.aspx
Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Check amazon... they have otg cables on there without the cable. Its kinda bulky though.
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Can't that OTG for the Tab work?
Shamrock13 said:
Can't that OTG for the Tab work?
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No! The galaxy tab does not use micro USB, it has a proprietary cable system somewhat like apple ipod
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http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine
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http://www.amazon.com/NOKIA-CA-157-Adapter-cable-Nokia/dp/B0050LO0QE
i just use the one that came with the nokia n8, works just fine
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You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.
Chirality said:
You use that one with the Galaxy Nexus?
Looks like it has a MicroUSB-A plug, which shouldn't fit into the Galaxy Nexus's MicroUSB-B port.
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correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job
I bought a 2$ cable from dealextreme for the Galaxy S2. You can find them at the same price on ebay... they work fine, tested with a USB pen and a SIXAXIS.
Now waiting for franco to update his kernel with the NTFS module to try out my external HDD.
Alpha Class said:
correct, just trim the corners, 2 sec job
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Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?
Chirality said:
Trim the corners on the cable? Or the GN?
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on the cable itself
mind you i did this simply because i had the cable lying around and it wasn't being used
its only a suggestion for the cheap among us , i suppose if i had to buy a cable, i'd just plop down for the micro b
is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.
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is there a usb otg cable capable of allowing charge and being the host at the same time? or is it even possible? i'm reading mixed results on this. that it is possible and it's not. i want to scream.
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What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.
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What you are looking for is a USB Accessory Charger Adapter, which exists in the USB spec but does not seem to actually exist in physical form.
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so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...
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so what you are implying is a usb accessory that is kind of passive but allows charging, and if you boink it with another micro usb accessory, usb otg cable here, that it will allow the necessary usb spec for otg also? hmmm...
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No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.
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Has anyone been able to find a USB-OTG adapter for the Galaxy Nexus similar to the USB adapter for the Galaxy Tab (pictured below), i.e. one that's just a compact adapter without a cable between the two sides?
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Here http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-usb-on-the-go-host-otg-adapter-pair-50774
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No, what it is is a special USB OTG adapter that has three connectors, a micro USB plug to plug into the host device, a USB socket to plug in the peripheral device, and a micro USB socket to plug in a charger. It also supplies a special resistance on the ID pin to the host device to let it know that a charger is connected so the host does not supply a voltage on the VBUS. Without this special adapter with the ID pin resistance, the host will supply a voltage to power the peripheral which will not work with the charger on the VBUS. Thus this special adapter is needed. This is defined in the USB OTG and Battery Charging specs, but so far it doesn't seem like anyone is manufacturing such a thing.
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Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!
IT doesnt work on HTC phones. I tried a gew hours ago, since nkbody knew i was forced to buy myself a usb otg cable. Plugged it in the Sensation, and a logitech G35 on the other side. no result, tried with regular usb stick still no result
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What file system are you guys using?
I can't seem to get the phone to read exFAT.
Also can't find ext4 drivers for Windows
FAT32 is not an option since the movies I want to watch are over 4gb.
derkgates said:
Would anybody be able to help make a cable to allow this functionality? I have Muscular Dystrophy and want to use my HTC Evo 3D with the specialized HID USB mouse emulator that's integrated into my wheelchair. This is how I control my desktop PC.
Because I also use the mouse emulator and voice recognition the battery life of the phone isn't that great. I would like to power the phone with a cigarette lighter adapter plugged into my chair.
Thanks!
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I'll try to do some research and tests and try to make something to help you and other people with similar needs!
I can mount ntfs with "USB Host Controller v0.44" app and 3.0.8-franco.Kernel R140 kernel.
As I've seen in some early reviews, the charger included in the box has a USB-A female while the charger included has a male USB-C output in both sides, so the question is: How the h*** do I charge my device with the included adapter?
The cable that comes with the phone is USB-A (male) to USB-C (male)
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This adapter (Micro USB female>USB-C male) comes with the phone. It'll allow you to use your existing micro USB cables. It definitely won't support 25W USB-C fast charging speeds, you'll need a proper and supported USB-C cable for that. I'd guess it'll support standard (last year's) fast charging though.
At some point, the idea of USB -C is to have the "C" connector at both ends, and eliminate the "A" on one end. However, they clearly have not moved in that direction yet.
This would make USB -c omnidirectional in every direction. No wall side/device side and no up and down.
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At some point, the idea of USB -C is to have the "C" connector at both ends, and eliminate the "A" on one end. However, they clearly have not moved in that direction yet.
This would make USB -c omnidirectional in every direction. No wall side/device side and no up and down.
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It seems like C on both ends is the proper way to migrate over, on the other hand buying A to C cables lets me re-use my wall plugs. Either way it's going to be a mess while my tablet and external battery pack are micro USB and my phone is USB C. What's everyone else planning on doing?
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It seems like C on both ends is the proper way to migrate over, on the other hand buying A to C cables lets me re-use my wall plugs. Either way it's going to be a mess while my tablet and external battery pack are micro USB and my phone is USB C. What's everyone else planning on doing?
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Qi Wireless fast charging is the way to go. Overnight I'll use the Wireless Charging Cradle and in the car I'll use the usb C cable to QC 2.0 Car charger. On the go I'll bring the OEM wall charger and cable. If need be maybe invest in a USB C External Battery Quick Charger.
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It seems like C on both ends is the proper way to migrate over, on the other hand buying A to C cables lets me re-use my wall plugs. Either way it's going to be a mess while my tablet and external battery pack are micro USB and my phone is USB C. What's everyone else planning on doing?
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For wireless charging which I use heavily, nothing. The Note7 will fast charge wirelessly at the same rate as the Note5. I ordered a 1' A>C Orange-E (they're 100% spec compliant) cable to use in my car for Android Auto. When the price drops I'll order a second Samsung OEM adaptive charger and Type C cable which I'll use in the office when I need faster charging than I can get through wireless. I'll use what comes in the box at home and when I travel. The latter is most important to me because that's where 25W charging matters most. A4C.com has the OEM Samsung 10,500 mAh fast charging brick on sale for $29.95 so I ordered one and that'll charge at 2A, last year's fast charging standard. I connect wirelessly 90% of the time for data transfer so Type C doesn't offer a lot of benefit on the data side for me so no need to "cable up." With the adapter that comes with the phone all existing micro USB cables will work fine. The only thing the adapter inhibits is 25W charging speeds. YMMV.
Is the Charge in Box QC Usb 3.0 or 2.0 ?
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Is the Charge in Box QC Usb 3.0 or 2.0 ?
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It will most probably be the same Adaptive Fast Charger we've seen before.
Hello, Everyone, I am new here, I got one question about charging the phone through a laptop. my laptop is ROG GL502VS, it has a usb-c port. When I used Razer phone, I always charge my phone through the laptop (USB-C to USB-C) the charging speed is so fast, i could say the speed equal to use adapter. but, when i change to Google Pixel 3 XL, i use usb type c port to charge my phone. it is really really freaking slow. I am really surprised. i don't know what happens, do you guy have the same problem as me? how to solve this problem?
FYI, Razer Phone have 4000 mAh battery bigger than Pixel 3 XL
Not all USB C is equal.
Pixels use Power Delivery or PD if memory serves.
So if your USB-C is not configured to make use of that bullsh*t proprietary power method then you will not achieve fast charge.
@parakleet, is there any way to configure PD? FYI, I do try maybe type c-c cable such as original pixel XL charger, MacBook type c charger and also razer type c charger.. none of them work
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@parakleet, is there any way to configure PD? FYI, I do try maybe type c-c cable such as original pixel XL charger, MacBook type c charger and also razer type c charger.. none of them work
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No modifcations can be mde to PD that I am aware of.
It should work with all the OEM gear.
When you plug in the OEM charger and cable what does the standby screen say the state of charging is?
Have you made any modifications to the phone?
On my screen said charging rapidly, I put timer for 4 min to test the charging, while my phone at 17%. From my laptop it is 0% gain (still 17%) but f I plugin to my adapter charger it gains 6% (reach 23%). The thing different on screen between in charge from laptop and adapter are:
- from laptop said "charge rapidly"
-from adapter said "charge rapidly+ time reminding till fully charge".
I know USB c-c without PD is charging slow of compare to PD. But this is too slow!!
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On my screen said charging rapidly, I put timer for 4 min to test the charging, while my phone at 17%. From my laptop it is 0% gain (still 17%) but f I plugin to my adapter charger it gains 6% (reach 23%). The thing different on screen between in charge from laptop and adapter are:
- from laptop said "charge rapidly"
-from adapter said "charge rapidly+ time reminding till fully charge".
I know USB c-c without PD is charging slow of compare to PD. But this is too slow!!
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i always thought that "charging rapidly" is shown if the gear used (cable, adapter, etc etc) supports the rapid charge (but may NOT deliver it)
kinda like the wireless charger, you can mod it to say "charging rapidly" on non google wireless stand but it still charges slowly.
Yes you are correct, I don't know if because of source or cable problem. Just like I mention above on the thread, my razer phone also come with PD and I use it with my laptop with no problem. But for Google pixel. It charged too slow even it shown as charging rapidly. Really hate to bring adapter around, coz I always working with my laptop, and I always charge my phone through it.
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Yes you are correct, I don't know if because of source or cable problem. Just like I mention above on the thread, my razer phone also come with PD and I use it with my laptop with no problem. But for Google pixel. It charged too slow even it shown as charging rapidly. Really hate to bring adapter around, coz I always working with my laptop, and I always charge my phone through it.
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Virtyx makes a good point.
Looks more and more like the laptop is not providing the juice.
I do some varies test.. I am sure it is more firmware or software problem than hardware.. I don't know if it is bug or not.. here is the screenshot of my current rate flow between my razer phone and pixel XL 3 from laptop same source and same USB type C-C. I think it is similar problem with wireless charger which pixel only support quick charging from Google dock. Other dock it won't charge fast.
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Charging issue https://imgur.com/gallery/f7uYdO0
Looking for known-good ten foot cables for MSM mode & data transfers.
USB 3.0 to USB C
Please don't respond if you don't know for sure it works in MSM (qualcomm) mode.
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CZ Eddie said:
Looking for known-good ten foot cables for MSM mode & data transfers.
USB 3.0 to USB C
Please don't respond if you don't know for sure it works in MSM (qualcomm) mode.
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Ebay, Amazon
jamescable said:
Ebay, Amazon
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I'm not sure you read my post.
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Ebay
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CZ Eddie said:
I'm not sure you read my post.
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Oh I read it. Cables have nothing to do with msm/fastboot/ADB. If you plug in your cable and msm doesn't work, its driver related. I have a 50 ft USB 3.0 cable extension and it works fine. I even have a USB 2.0 25 foot cable extension, works fine. USB c to USB c, works fine, etc
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Cables have nothing to do with msm/fastboot/ADB
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I'm glad you've had better experience than others (including myself).
Any USB 3.0 or 3.1 works with Fastboot. It's not cable related. The only different thing is the USB protocol.
I personally use a FULL USB 3.1 cable (Type C to Type C) which transfers my files from OP9 Pro to the PC at speed of around 300-400Mb/S. Also MSM tool finishes in around 90-100 Seconds unlike the stock USB 2.0 cable which takes 3x the time.
Edit: Same goes for MSM tool (EDL by Qualcomm), doesn't matter what cable you use. If you have issues, it's driver related or your USB port on the PC.
ekin_strops said:
Edit: Same goes for MSM tool (EDL by Qualcomm), doesn't matter what cable you use. If you have issues, it's driver related or your USB port on the PC.
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Wrong. I've got cables that work with MSM and others that don't work with MSM.
Same driver, same computer, same ports, back-to-back testing.
I don't think I've ever run into issues with FastBoot nor did I mention FastBoot in my OP.
Cheaper cables will not work as well for high speed/data transfers past ~six feet.
If you're not going to post the make/model of a cable you know from experience works with MSM at 10' and has high data transfer speeds, then please don't bother posting on my thread.
CZ Eddie said:
Wrong. I've got cables that work with MSM and others that don't work with MSM.
Same driver, same computer, same ports, back-to-back testing.
I don't think I've ever run into issues with FastBoot nor did I mention FastBoot in my OP.
Cheaper cables will not work as well for high speed/data transfers past ~six feet.
If you're not going to post the make/model of a cable you know from experience works with MSM at 10' and has high data transfer speeds, then please don't bother posting on my thread.
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"It doesn't work for me, therefore, my statement is true". Literally own multiple 3M+ cables that I use for MSM tool.
Not sure why are you instantly this mad. Get a snickers.
ekin_strops said:
"It doesn't work for me, therefore, my statement is true". Literally own multiple 3M+ cables that I use for MSM tool.
Not sure why are you instantly this mad. Get a snickers.
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Are you overly sensitive to constructive responses? lol
You can research for yourself. This isn't a "me issue".
Gonna be putting you on ignore since you're just a troll now.
CZ Eddie said:
Are you overly sensitive to constructive responses? lol
You can research for yourself. This isn't a "me issue".
Gonna be putting you on ignore since you're just a troll now.
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No, just saying that you should calm down, you're literally over-reacting to any reply. Literally just went through your posts, and saw enough.
Calm down guys. It's just a cable.
I think part of the problem is sellers who list the cables as usb3/3.1 and they're not, that's why he's looking for one specifically that works for sure > 10ft. I also have cables that don't work for msm/edl/data transfer at all. They're just low rate charging cables. I have no reason to buy those so they were probably part of something else or listed as usb3 cables and they actually weren't. I suspect they aren't abundant because of the length limitation you're already aware of and people expecting their $4 cables to charge from 7 houses down.
I'm not much help to your thread. I know for sure these work at 6ft https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07TBNDLVW?
You might get away with using a USB coupler. I've had slower than dash/warp but faster than non-dash/warp charging when using two of those together with a coupler. I've not tried to use them for msm or data transfer
Just to update the thread, I ended up buying this cable and it was a poor experience.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZIPYPY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I never got around to testing its speed for transferring files but I didn't notice any issues.
It "seemed" to be fast.
But yesterday I needed to use ADB and it didn't work!
So, I broke out my old three foot USB 3 cable and that worked using the exact same USB port on my computer.
Then, I swapped it for this 10' Anker again and suddenly that now worked for ADB too.
I figured it was a just a fluke.
So, I then kicked off an MSM back to stock on the 10' Anker cable.
And that led to my poor experience.
The 3' cable usually takes about 3-6 minutes to complete MSM.
This cable took seven hundred and seventy seven minutes to complete MSM.
Yes, 777 minutes!!!!
It would go 30 minutes at a time without moving the progress indicator.
I was positive I'd end up with a bricked phone.
But it eventually finished overnight.
CZ Eddie said:
Just to update the thread, I ended up buying this cable and it was a poor experience.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZIPYPY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I never got around to testing its speed for transferring files but I didn't notice any issues.
It "seemed" to be fast.
But yesterday I need to use ADB and it didn't work!
So, I broke out my old three foot USB 3 cable and that worked using the exact same USB port on my computer.
Then, I swapped it for this 10' Anker again and suddenly that now worked for ADB too.
I figured it was a just a fluke.
So, I then kicked off an MSM back to stock on the 10' Anker cable.
And that led to my poor experience.
The 3' cable usually takes about 3-6 minutes to complete MSM.
This cable took seven hundred and seventy seven minutes to complete MSM.
Yes, 777 minutes!!!!
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It would go 30 minutes at a time without moving the progress indicator.
I was positive I'd end up with a bricked phone.
But it eventually finished overnight.
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WOW....of course the description stated charging cable without mentioning sync. I have ran into this when picking up different generic cables. They would charge but would not sync the phone.