Hello,
I've installed the BSG Gcam MGC_8.1.101A9_GV2B_ENG on the Redmi Note 11 Pro 5G Snapdragon. And during the day all is fine. Pictures are better than with the stock cam. More details, less noise and grain. But in the night the Xiaomi Cam is still better. I have 2 problems.
1) The noise level on the gcam is worse at the same ISO Level compared to the Xiaomi cam. Can it be enhanced somehow? There are many sharpening, exposure and noise smoothening things in the image processing menu. But it's too much to just try and error a bit. Most of the stuff is deactivated by default.
2) The nightsight uses maximum exposure of 1/4 or 0.25 seconds. Which is too much for me. Almost every picture is blurry due to shaking. I lowered the "Limit Max Exposure" of the sensor to 1/10. But it doesn't work. It keeps using 1/4.
I instead used correction exposure / ISO to x2 ISO which helps reducing the exposure. But it does it quite hard so that the picture is noisy again due to high ISO.
Maybe someone can Help.
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There's a constant debate between OnePlus 5T, its camera.. vs. Google Pixel 2 XL. For myself - I can't justify nearly double the price for the lower megapixel camera and subpar display.
There were also a few camera related enhancements in recent firmwares leading to 4.7.6. Also, for me there was no interest in social media crap - beautifying, etc. I also couldn't make GCam work with back camera on 4.7.6.
All of the photos were made using intentionally difficult conditions.. dim light, photo taken at an angle, etc.
Camera FV5: Creates very noisy pictures, even with optimal lighting
Better Camera - HDR: Too artificial colors with slight red shift, textures are not uniform
Better Camera - Single Shot: Textures are much better, colors are greyed out, some noise still present
Better Camera - Best mode: This seems the most optimal, least amount of blur due to lack of optical image stabilization, as this mode takes 3 shots, and selects the one with the highest focus.
Fotej Camera - HDR: Very poor, spilled ink like effect instead of slight glow
Fotej Camera - HDR off: Also very poor, lack of clarity or details, noise.
Open Camera - Using Camera 2 API, 95% JPEG quality: too much sharpen, textures are not even uneven, but grainy, with blackish dots, loss of texture details
Open Camera - Using Camera 2 API, 97% JPEG quality: same - too much sharpen, but textures are more even, grainy blackish dots are still present but a lot less
Open Camera - Using Camera 2 API, 97% JPEG quality, HDR Mode Always On: Too significant loss of details, loss of texture details
In summary, I think 5T stock camera and Better Camera with Best mode wins. 5T works a bit better with color, textures, does not abuse the image taken, while Better Camera in the Best Mode takes 3 photos, and selects least blurry one - which seems to be the only way to compensate for the lack of optical image stabilization.
Other conclusions:
- HRR still doesn't seem to work well on 3rd party camera apps
- Stock Camera HQ mode still doesn't work, blur and loss of details is significant
What are your findings?
I really don`t satisfy with the camera
We have an early camera test from PC World. After looking at the photos, I don't see major changes in Photos taken with both aperture sizes.
You can hardly say this is taken with f/1.5 and this is from f/2.4!
Both f/1.5 and f/2.4 images look good and similar in all conditions. :cyclops:
Here is the Video:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3257675/mobile/galaxy-s9-camera-test.html
What do you think ?
Killer333 said:
We have an early camera test from PC World. After looking at the photos, I don't see major changes in Photos taken with both aperture sizes.
You can hardly say this is taken with f/1.5 and this is from f/2.4!
Both f/1.5 and f/2.4 images look good and similar in all conditions. :cyclops:
Here is the Video:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3257675/mobile/galaxy-s9-camera-test.html
What do you think ?
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Covered here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/how-to/notice-post-questions-t3754328
f/1.5 allows more light in, so the same scene can be taken at a faster shutter speed and/or lower ISO. Faster shutter speed means the shutter is open for a shorter amount of time, so less chance of blurring due to movement of the camera while the shutter is open. Lower ISO means less gain, so less noise. Both are big benefits for low-light photography. I don't think the scenes used in those pics were the best examples of showing off f/1.5 vs f/2.4.
I have S9 it has very good Camera not great.
I think Samsung should just go to a larger Sensor.
Is this Camera any better than the 16 Megapixel from Note 4 ? Is it 5% better ?
Can any I compare ZUI Cam with Gcam...??
In low light Gcam is much better with very low noise compared to zuicam and better colors as well, gcam also has portrait mode which is not there in zuicam, In good lighting conditions gcam is still better but not by much, but beware that gcam takes quite a bit of HDR+ processing time and lacks pro mode as well
rehankumar said:
In low light Gcam is much better with very low noise compared to zuicam and better colors as well, gcam also has portrait mode which is not there in zuicam, In good lighting conditions gcam is still better but not by much, but beware that gcam takes quite a bit of HDR+ processing time and lacks pro mode as well
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I think it is subjective, because for me the ZUI came is better compared to any other camera.
The speed of the focus, then the speed to take photos, working slow-mo etc.
And I did notice more noise when using gcam in low light situations, even with camera2.
Recently I got my Nokia 6.1, well first thing I did was download Arnova's Google camera and Potter's Night Sight Google Camera.
Maybe it's me buy I wasn't able to find RAW capture in default camera app. Need help with this because I liked stock camera features.
as for Google camera, both cameras with Super photo settings, I noticed high amount of noise. Check photo corners
Both in night sight and HDR+ modes, so I'm sticking with stock camera, and using Gcam HDR+ only for selfies. Disappointed.
In poor light conditions, dslr-s also have noise in the final image, so you can't expect miracles from a sensor, that is as big as needle pin, compared to APS-C or FF sensors, which have way more area for gathering light. Combine that with the poorer high ISO performance, the lack of long exposure time, and the lack of variable aperture - I'm really amazed what the computational technology of GCam ports are capable of doing in low light, HANDHELD!!! Today I made some tests, and with nightmode I got results, that would require a tripod for my camera to make an image with comparable quality.
Stock camera doesn't have RAW support and RAW doesn't "eliminate" noise - on the contrary - in some situations, GCAM copes better than me in editing the noise out and preserving the detail (I do it in lightroom).
So for now, GCam with nightmode is quite a thing, given the limited hardware of every smartphone camera.
bo6o said:
In poor light conditions, dslr-s also have noise in the final image, so you can't expect miracles from a sensor, that is as big as needle pin, compared to APS-C or FF sensors, which have way more area for gathering light. Combine that with the poorer high ISO performance, the lack of long exposure time, and the lack of variable aperture - I'm really amazed what the computational technology of GCam ports are capable of doing in low light, HANDHELD!!! Today I made some tests, and with nightmode I got results, that would require a tripod for my camera to make an image with comparable quality.
Stock camera doesn't have RAW support and RAW doesn't "eliminate" noise - on the contrary - in some situations, GCAM copes better than me in editing the noise out and preserving the detail (I do it in lightroom).
So for now, GCam with nightmode is quite a thing, given the limited hardware of every smartphone camera.
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Well I am photographer myself and I understand what you said, but in my case even with ISO100 and 3 sec shutter with tripod final image has artifacts not noise. I noticed that even in daylight, somehow after phone
restart I got less of that, so possibly it was software bug.
So far I tested Footej Camera and Momento Pro Camera both of same allow saving in RAW , however they don't support long shutter speed above 1 sec.
FV-5 camera also is good, saves RAW format and also is pretty well.
As for Google Cam, I use it for selfies, they are a lot detailed, for video I recommend Cinema 4K , you get decent quality with 200mbps bitrate (sample)
And software stabilisation in that software is quite decent, make sure you shoot in 1080p for stabilisation to work.
I tested with lightroom camera, and sadly, I should agree with you, but I don't think it's a software bug. It's either the capability of the sensor (reason one for the short maximum long exposure time), or just fast overheating of the sensor (less plausible).
I've seen a comparison between pixel 3 night mode vs a7riii camera - it's amazing, and has nothing in common with the noise in 6.1. And this makes me think of a third reason - as this program is a port, it might have special algorithm for cleaning the noise of the pixel sensor, which doesn't work for ours. This theory can be checked by asking someone to take a comparable long exposure with pixel 3 in dng, with a third party program.
Like title.I want to buy p6p but the tele lens just have 20x zoom level,can I change it? I have heard that the imx 586 tele lens is great.
It starts to look kack once you get past about 13x so i wouldn't want to go further than 20X to be honest.
MrBelter said:
一旦超过 13 倍，它就会开始看起来很奇怪，所以说实话，我不想超过 20 倍。
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I am now using pixel 4. To be honest, the imaging effect of instantaneous HDR is sometimes not as good as expected, especially when pulling up the dark exposure bar and higher magnification zoom, which will bring more noise and worse imaging quality I use a Google camera (version 7. X) that supports old-fashioned HDR +, and the image quality is better than the official one. I am willing to sacrifice continuous shooting to obtain better image quality, and the camera supports up to 50x zoom. The following is an example image. which zoom level is 1x 5x 10x. translation from Google form China
Walk closer. ;-)