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Worth upgrading from Moto X 2014?

Hi,
I know this question may seem similar and it has already been answered before but those threads are over 5-6 months old so imo they aren't relevant anymore. I have to make a decision ASAP regarding selling my 8 months-old 16GB Moto X 2014 and upgrading to a brand new 32GB Nexus 5X. In the place where I live, the X2 can easily be sold with ~$175 (I bought it new for $250). Now, the 32 gig 5X can be bought at ~ $350. So, do you guys think it's worth the extra $$$? Did the 5X improve since the monthly 2016 updates? Does anyone here tested the N Dev Preview 4 on their 5X? Do the past issues (like overheating) are still there? To me, the "shocking" thing about the 5X is the fact that I tested it in a local store besides my X2 in Geekbench 3 and it was quite of a surprise to see the Moto take the lead in the 2nd attempt. (Both stock, running MM 6.0 - The 5X had the October 1st 2015 security update). After the 2nd run, the 5X's score dipped below the X2's by around 300-500 points.

bv31top said:
Hi,
I know this question may seem similar and it has already been answered before but those threads are over 5-6 months old so imo they aren't relevant anymore. I have to make a decision ASAP regarding selling my 8 months-old 16GB Moto X 2014 and upgrading to a brand new 32GB Nexus 5X. In the place where I live, the X2 can easily be sold with ~$175 (I bought it new for $250). Now, the 32 gig 5X can be bought at ~ $350. So, do you guys think it's worth the extra $$$? Did the 5X improve since the monthly 2016 updates? Does anyone here tested the N Dev Preview 4 on their 5X? Do the past issues (like overheating) are still there? To me, the most "shocking" thing about the 5X is the fact that I tested it in a local store besides my X2 in Geekbench 3 and it was quite of a surprise to see the Moto take the lead in the 2nd attempt. (Both stock, running MM 6.0 - The 5X had the October 1st 2015 security update). After the 2nd run, the 5X's score dipped below the X2's by around 300-500 points.
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Why aren't the 5 month reviews relevant? Why do you have to make a decision asap? I don't think anyone here has tested DP4. Why is anything you see "shocking" ? How do you test at a store with the same software as you have on whatever phone you say you have? Why did you post this? Why did I reply? When is DP5 coming out already? When will TWRP be compatible with Nougat encrypted?

I am asking if N brings improvements to the device. 5 months ago, there wasn't any DP3 or DP4. Jeez, I don't see why you have to be so rude.

bv31top said:
I am asking if N brings improvements to the device. 5 months ago, there wasn't any DP3 or DP4. Jeez, I don't see why you have to be so rude.
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It's my nature.
Asking if dev previews have changed anything is not what you asked or stated.
Edit.. well you kind of asked in a very round about way. Perhaps...
Has dp4 helped with some old reported issues like..
The benchmark thing from a store with your moto x in hand seems kind of weird, no?
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Fine then. It seems I'm not welcomed here. XDA's community has gone to s*** lately.

bv31top said:
In the place where I live, the X2 can easily be sold with ~$175 (I bought it new for $250). Now, the 32 gig 5X can be bought at ~ $350. So, do you guys think it's worth the extra $$$?
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So, basically, you can get a new N5X for ~$175, net? I would take that deal for the guaranteed updates alone, plus the doubling from 16GB to 32GB.
bv31top said:
Did the 5X improve since the monthly 2016 updates? Does anyone here tested the N Dev Preview 4 on their 5X? Do the past issues (like overheating) are still there? To me, the "shocking" thing about the 5X is the fact that I tested it in a local store besides my X2 in Geekbench 3 and it was quite of a surprise to see the Moto take the lead in the 2nd attempt.
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You will never get a consistent answer on performance. Some people claim N5X performance is terrible, others say it is great. I have had it since launch and performance has been flawless for me. If you are a heavy gamer you would probably want better specs, but otherwise the N5X is solid.
My N5X has never overheated, nor has performance suffered due to throttling. But, I don't game, so I wouldn't expect to run into those issues. I don't have the dev preview installed (I rely on my phone too much day-to-day to install a beta OS), but reports have generally been very positive.
Personally, I don't get hung up on benchmarks. They don't reflect real-world usage, in my opinion -- a phone can score great on benchmarks and be crappy in real life usage (particularly if the phone has been engineered to over perform in benchmarks) and vice versa. JMO.

pixel xl 2

Is it worth upgrading to a pixel xl 2 at this time of year? Is it better to hold off and get a new handset from another manufacturer like p20 pro from Huawei

Depends what you're looking for I guess: The latest, fastest hardware... or always running the latest software.
Personally I wanted a trouble-free phone (I'm not even rooting anymore) that will get Android updates very quickly. I don't care that much for the latest hardware as long as my phone is fast, and the Pixel 2 is blazing fast.. so yeah, the choice was obvious for me.
What are you looking for in a phone? The best hardware for 12 months, of the latest software for the 24-36 months to come? Both are valid choices really

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Depends what you're looking for I guess: The latest, fastest hardware... or always running the latest software.
Personally I wanted a trouble-free phone (I'm not even rooting anymore) that will get Android updates very quickly. I don't care that much for the latest hardware as long as my phone is fast, and the Pixel 2 is blazing fast.. so yeah, the choice was obvious for me.
What are you looking for in a phone? The best hardware for 12 months, of the latest software for the 24-36 months to come? Both are valid choices really
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I like the idea of pixel xl 2 but there are new phones getting released in a months time in Paris etc. I just don't want to regret getting the pixel xl 2 knowing it has display problem or should I hold off for the Huawei P20 pro. I don't want a Samsung S9 as it alwsys lags

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Is it worth upgrading to a pixel xl 2 at this time of year? Is it better to hold off and get a new handset from another manufacturer like p20 pro from Huawei
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If it were me, and it's not, and if you can, I would hold out until at least October. By then you'll have a good read on how the new phones are performing, and see what Google has to offer in the Pixel 3. I love my P2XL, having said that, I'm already looking forward to what the P3XL has to offer. And that's my 2 pennies worth ?

Badger50 said:
If it were me, and it's not, and if you can, I would hold out until at least October. By then you'll have a good read on how the new phones are performing, and see what Google has to offer in the Pixel 3. I love my P2XL, having said that, I'm already looking forward to what the P3XL has to offer. And that's my 2 pennies worth ?
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I'm hearing you but I'm due for an upgrade. I don't want to wait till October and make my decision based on that. I'm talking about a months time at the most. I know the Pixel XL 2 is one amazing device but coming from a flawless screen scares me that the pixel xl 2 might irritate me with lower quality screen.
I was expecting sony to release a new 4k device at MWC but that didn't happen as i was looking forward to that. On the other hand the P20 pro is around the corner. Seeing what the mate 10 pro achieved it might be worth getting the P20 pro with 3 cameras and OLED display. I will get the pixel in a heart beat but worried about screen as it is the most used part of the screen.

dieselhazza said:
I'm hearing you but I'm due for an upgrade. I don't want to wait till October and make my decision based on that. I'm talking about a months time at the most. I know the Pixel XL 2 is one amazing device but coming from a flawless screen scares me that the pixel xl 2 might irritate me with lower quality screen.
I was expecting sony to release a new 4k device at MWC but that didn't happen as i was looking forward to that. On the other hand the P20 pro is around the corner. Seeing what the mate 10 pro achieved it might be worth getting the P20 pro with 3 cameras and OLED display. I will get the pixel in a heart beat but worried about screen as it is the most used part of the screen.
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If buying from google they have a two week return if your not happy. No risk to test it.

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If buying from google they have a two week return if your not happy. No risk to test it.
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I'm not getting it directly through google. Its through a carrier. So I can't test the device.

Should I buy this or something newer

It's finally upgrade time, coming from a Lumia 930 after my OnePlus 3 have up the ghost after an impact.
Been looking at options and Pixel 2 XL is coming up at £31 a month with no upfront cost (for comparison Pixel 3 XL is around £60 per month)
Am I going to regret getting this or is it still a worthy upgrade today and for the next 2 years?
Are the reported issues actually issues or just people looking for problems?
Thank you for your time

It's still a great device with a few years of updates to come... Price is Right compared to 2018 flagships...

I had a note 8 for almost a year and a xiaomi mi 8. The Samsung was awesome and the s pen was useful but the pixel experience is so much better. Speed differences are not huge, I don't play too many games so it's fast enough for my needs.
The camera is awesome, no contest compared to current phones tbh and with only one lens.
The phone looks great (I have panda white) and I'd rather have this pixel instead of the latest as I'm fed up of all glass phones.

If you like ugly notches and having to pay $80 for a wireless charger to get full speed wireless charging because Google locked down the phone to use only their wireless charger, get the Pixel 3. Otherwise, get the Pixel 2.
UPDATE: Google backpedaled and said it will start certifying 3rd party wireless chargers. Those that are certified will be able to charge the phone at full speed. Still seems kind of stupid to me considering neither Apple nor Samsung have any such requirement for their wireless chargers, but it's not as dumb as locking them all out.

Still an awesome device by today's standards. Still super fast, will be updated for a while by Google, it will officially get most of the new Pixel 3 features, and unofficially the other features (thanks XDA).
Get it!

I just bought it after the pixel3 release. Couldn't be happier

Buy it. There's no way the 3 is worth another thirty quid a month, especially as many of the upgrades will eventually work on the 2XL. Mine's a year old (Panda white) and it's running like a dream. Best phone I've ever had.

I can see it running fine for the next two years. Unless apps really start increasing their demands on RAM and processor by a lot, it'll age fine.
That being said, I still go with getting a phone within 6 months of release to get the most of it in the long run. Only benefit of anything longer is price being lower so if you can get a great deal for a Pixel 2 XL, then sure go for it.
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I'd look at the OnePlus 6T or possibly even the LG V40. The Pixel 2 XL is great, don't get me wrong, but the 2018 flagships are pulling ahead. I have a feeling with Android 10, the bar will be raised for specs needed for a smooth experience. If you don't run a lot of apps at once and aren't gaming, the Pixel 2 XL might be fine, but as software and apps get more advanced it may start to feel laggy over time.

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I'd look at the OnePlus 6T or possibly even the LG V40. The Pixel 2 XL is great, don't get me wrong, but the 2018 flagships are pulling ahead. I have a feeling with Android 10, the bar will be raised for specs needed for a smooth experience. If you don't run a lot of apps at once and aren't gaming, the Pixel 2 XL might be fine, but as software and apps get more advanced it may start to feel laggy over time.
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After buying an LG G5, I would recommend LG phones only to my worst enemies. The UI looks fugly and isn't as smooth as Google's, it's full of bloatware, the LG apps are worse then the original GApps they replace, updates don't arrive each month and new Android releases take an eternity. Hell, the G5 got Android 8 only recently! On top the developer support gets worse and worse with each new model (if you can unlock the bootlaoder at all), so you hardly can escape LG's version of software hell on earth.
The OnePlus 6T is most likely miles ahead, but it's made of glass. And you need forked versions of the Google camera to shoot nice pictures.
My Pixel 2 XL has been running smooth over the last year, I haven't regretted that I bought it for one second, despite its steep price.
So if you don't want to spend the money for the new version, get a Pixel 2 XL. Or get a OnePlus 6T if you must have more RAM. But don't buy the LG V40, it may seem fine at first, but you'll regret it later on.

Everything up to the G5 and V20 was unreliable, though I've seen good things about the V30 and presumably the V40 as well. The Pixel 2 XL being made by LG shares a great deal in common. That said, it still does appear the OnePlus 6T is the best value for one's money. The aggressive sales on the V40 are tempting too ($200 off).

I just bought a pixel 2xl yesterday and quite frankly I saw no particular reason to go the 3xl route at this point in time. This phone is a beast.

^ yes, it's still a badboy! Welcome aboard

I would recommend a newer handset especially if you can wait for the OP6T. I'm moving from.my Pixel 2 XL to the Mate 20 Pro.

Hazzay88 said:
I would recommend a newer handset especially if you can wait for the OP6T. I'm moving from.my Pixel 2 XL to the Mate 20 Pro.
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Just to have something newer, shinier or are there real reasons? I see no point except the slight blue tint of the display to upgrade this fantastic device.
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Everything up to the G5 and V20 was unreliable, though I've seen good things about the V30 and presumably the V40 as well. The Pixel 2 XL being made by LG shares a great deal in common. That said, it still does appear the OnePlus 6T is the best value for one's money. The aggressive sales on the V40 are tempting too ($200 off).
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uhm nope https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/10/14/lg-v40-review-best-lgs-ever-built-still-isnt-quite-enough/

Thank you for all the replies, made my purchase and couldn't be more pleased with it.
Any hints and tips on changes to make straight away?

mb76 said:
Thank you for all the replies, made my purchase and couldn't be more pleased with it.
Any hints and tips on changes to make straight away?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-2-first-things
You got a case right? Definitely protect it.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

What if you can score one for $300 - $400. Seems like would be a good pick up at that price point even if you only use it for a year.
Rick

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What if you can score one for $300 - $400. Seems like would be a good pick up at that price point even if you only use it for a year.
Rick
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Well the OP got it for a monthly $39.76/month with no up front cost. Pricey but it's a lot less than the Pixel 3 XL for $76.96/month. Either way, both are way more than what we pay in the US
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Yep. It's a gooder. I came from a 2016 Moto z griffin with a battery mod and this gets better battery life.
Still at 78% by the time I get home from work.

Question Google Pixel

Is anyone here thinking of replacing their OP9P with a Pixel 6?

I do but it would be very impractical to spend again on a phone this year. Pixel 7 pro maybe

saisid16 said:
I do but it would be very impractical to spend again on a phone this year. Pixel 7 pro maybe
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You can always sell your OP9Pro

Only if it released worldwide which unfortunately won't happen.

vibrantliker said:
You can always sell your OP9Pro
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I bought the phone in India, and now I'm in Germany. Selling the Indian variant off here is difficult.

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Is anyone here thinking of replacing their OP9P with a Pixel 6?
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Yup, already ordered a 6 Pro. I have the regular OP9 and it's been underwhelming.
No full update zips for international
Bad battery life
Poor RAM management
Poor mobile data signal/reception
No working VoWiFi (carrier won't support OP phones)
And this last one isn't a huge deal for me but the whole throttling stuff
I'm pretty sure the 6 Pro will alleviate all above issues I'm having with my OP9.

Ordered the Pixel 6pro and traded in my OnePlus8Pro.
I'm keeping my OnePlus9Pro!
Cheers

I would like Pixel 6 Pro..., but i Hate google BS, so NO !!!
Users of Pixel 6 complain about overheating doing simple things on the phone..

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I would like Pixel 6 Pro..., but i Hate google BS, so NO !!!
Users of Pixel 6 complain about overheating doing simple things on the phone..
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My OP9P overheats doing nothing. I haven't heard Google does too.

just sold my P9Pro and preordered the P6Pro.
i really wanted to love the OP9Pro. The hardware was amazing and the camera was much better than what the reviews suggested.
But the software experience was mediocre. OOS11 felt like a cheap chinese aosp rom, no special must have features except of the camera software. therefore it felt laggy, cause many apps were only running in 60 fps.
ColorOS was not as bad as what everybody said, but the camera was horrible.
i didn't trust oppo in delivering timely updates once the OP9pro isn't the latest and greatest anymore so i thought it wasn't worth the money and sold it.

I am waiting for October 25th and the tests and if the P6 Pro is as good as it seems to be I will resell my 9Pro.
OnePlus is lost.

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I am waiting for October 25th and the tests and if the P6 Pro is as good as it seems to be I will resell my 9Pro.
OnePlus is lost.
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This I would do too. Im not gonna preorder till the public can test it haha. Considering first inhouse chip is pretty huge deal. Could be a make or break for pixel users. If everything is good as what google says it is, then yes i will go back to pixel. They literally are the new flagship killer considering price and specs. Its gonna be a challenge for samsung to bring their stupid prices down too and apple.

null0seven said:
I would like Pixel 6 Pro..., but i Hate google BS, so NO !!!
Users of Pixel 6 complain about overheating doing simple things on the phone..
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What users of Pixel 6 Pro? Only reviewers have the phones and they are under embargo?!

I like the screen. Looks a little like Note phones.

I will keep my 9Pro.
The phone looks amazing but the charge is to long. That's a no for me :
Testing with multiple third-party PD chargers, the closest to Google's estimated charge time came from a 45W laptop charger, which surpassed 50% charge (enough for a day's use) after approximately 40 minutes, with a full charge still taking 2.25 hours total.
Google Pixel 6 Pro review: The dawn of a new era?
The Pixel 6 Pro offers up a familiar Android experience but dressed with a new look and running new hardware that reaches far beyond anything we've seen from a Pixel before
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Question Would you buy again?

Hi all.
I'm thinking of getting a 9 pro and was wondering, would you buy it again if you had your current experience to help make your decision? I've found a few around $650, used. I'm not worried about insane camera quality. A good screen, solid performance, fast charging and being able to root and ROM it are what is drawing me in. I loved the 7 Pro I had but I've seen some say they don't think anything later has lived up to that and the quality has degraded. It nearly pushed me back to a 7 pro but I take it with a grain of salt, figured I'd ask here and see from some current users.
As for ROM's, /e/ apparently works. And Lineage. Does the color OS merge cause any new privacy concerns? I don't know a lot of how it has progressed, to be honest. I'm planning to ROM and de-google as much as I can.
Anyone who's used a PIxel 5a, might it be a better solution, cheaper?
Thanks for your input!

Honestly if I could go back, I wouldve bought a Galaxy s21 ultra. Android 12 is still so buggy for me and I'm not keen on OnePlus merging with oppo. I love OOS.

Maybe,. It still has been solid, like screen is beautiful, w/ refresh rate. It has the thirty minute 0-100 charge and forty minute wireless charge. It sounds good and looks good so maybe so.
One thing is the fast charging is 65 watts; which I liked the 35 watt on the 8 pro.
One of the drawbacks was the US unlocked version came with one sim slot, instead of two, like it should of been.
Also when the few updates were good , unlocked version usually only received the incremental version on Google server; but the last one, I just flashed in TWRP (which has been a beauty).
So all in all still a solid device with the microg and Gapps option.
If the Samsung can be unlocked, etc, and looking like it will be supported then maybe that might be the way. I've been looking at them the last few years and I really like that foldable phone that opens to a tablet.
The last one I personally owned was the S3 and that was the days. I remember it coming out and being like, "WOW". That was the CyanogenMod era for me on that S3.
Anyway I hope it works out in what you decide. One thing I think by the way is "how easy is it to recover, and which method? How easy to brick, etc?
Take care, and I hope this post is not too much, but I can relate (like I'm sure most of us here on XDA can), and thought I'd add my thoughts.

Semetery said:
Hi all.
I'm thinking of getting a 9 pro and was wondering, would you buy it again if you had your current experience to help make your decision? I've found a few around $650, used. I'm not worried about insane camera quality. A good screen, solid performance, fast charging and being able to root and ROM it are what is drawing me in. I loved the 7 Pro I had but I've seen some say they don't think anything later has lived up to that and the quality has degraded. It nearly pushed me back to a 7 pro but I take it with a grain of salt, figured I'd ask here and see from some current users.
As for ROM's, /e/ apparently works. And Lineage. Does the color OS merge cause any new privacy concerns? I don't know a lot of how it has progressed, to be honest. I'm planning to ROM and de-google as much as I can.
Anyone who's used a PIxel 5a, might it be a better solution, cheaper?
Thanks for your input!
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Yes. I would buy 9 Pro.
One of the best screen on the market. Hardware, same. Charging on Oneplus is awesome. When i buy my phone battery was 0. I charged with my phone Off in 27 minutes, 0-100 %. Than i buy wireless 50w, crazy fast too. I put my phone on the stand . Then i must have my eyes on the watch. It goes to 100% in no time, if i let it.
About ColorOS... Many people forget that Oppo Fiind 7 came out at the same time with OnePlus One (almost same phone). Oppo works on is own processor. Oppo made a foldable already.
Color OS works fine (on my European model phone). I'm glad that we don't have that Stupid cartoon that i see on Pixel 6 phones. Looks llike is made by a 3 years old kid.
Oxygen OS was Awesome, but unfortunately google f*cked up this great OS.
Camera on Oneplus 9 pro is good. I like xPan mode, especially.

the bolt of thunder said:
Honestly if I could go back, I wouldve bought a Galaxy s21 ultra. Android 12 is still so buggy for me and I'm not keen on OnePlus merging with oppo. I love OOS.
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exactly how I feel too.

Yes I would, I'd make sure I know the origin of the phone, I.e. Eu, USA TMobile, India, China. I would then find out which rom it has flashed. Then use these to compare which country you're using it in, to make sure there's no surprise. Also I'd stick with a11 or a12 on a rom you like. My spec's are in the screenshot and I'm in the UK.

I would buy the 9 Pro again, but I'm going to try the 10 Pro when Global model available!
Cheers

I would probably buy unlocked, but I would buy again. I would also have done a little more looking so I didn't end up with my phone stuck on India firmware now.

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the feedback. Still undecided for now.

Another question; would you go to/back to a 7t Pro McLaren? Looks like it's about a $250 difference. I loved my 7 Pro and I'm willing to do a battery change. Or is the 9 Pro just so ahead that it's worth it to you?
Oh, and for those who wouldn't buy a 9 pro, would you mind to elaborate a little more? I'm down to these two and am trying to decide which makes more sense if I'm going to ROM it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!

650 usd for a op 9 pro? I'll take it. IMO no phones are better in this price range. It's not the best phone but it is expected that it will perform the same if not better with those $1000+ flagship phones.

Semetery said:
Another question; would you go to/back to a 7t Pro McLaren? Looks like it's about a $250 difference. I loved my 7 Pro and I'm willing to do a battery change. Or is the 9 Pro just so ahead that it's worth it to you?
Oh, and for those who wouldn't buy a 9 pro, would you mind to elaborate a little more? I'm down to these two and am trying to decide which makes more sense if I'm going to ROM it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!
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7 pro was great ! Mine was blue. NO front camera in display ! Back then Oxygen OS was awesome. And everything was easy : root-unroot-twrp-MSM.
But the screen is Too Curved. And soon you will get no updates.

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I would buy the 9 Pro again, but I'm going to try the 10 Pro when Global model available!
Cheers
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Don't ! Wait a little more. I'm sure you can use/keep your 9 pro few moths more.
I wait for Ultra.

Semetery said:
Oh, and for those who wouldn't buy a 9 pro, would you mind to elaborate a little more? I'm down to these two and am trying to decide which makes more sense if I'm going to ROM it anyway.
Thanks again everyone!
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Latest OOS (buggy Android 12 ColorOS ) is really not for me.

null0seven said:
Don't ! Wait a little more. I'm sure you can use/keep your 9 pro few moths more.
I wait for Ultra.
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Alright, I'll try and wait for the Ultra

I've owned my 9 Pro for about 4 months now. I have very mixed feelings about it.
For me, the pluses:
Unlockable bootloader with good third-party ROM support.
Nice screen, decent camera.
Wireless charging
The minuses:
Buggy factory ROM's. The switchover to Android 12 and a ColorOS-based build was a disaster. ColorOS is just not in the same league as OxygenOS as far as polish or capabilities. It lost most of the nice touches that made OxygenOS good. And the new team is doing a mediocre job of staying on top of security patches. It is now the end of February, and my phone is still at January 1, 2022 security patch level.
No SD-card slot.
I think I'd still pick the OnePlus over a Google phone. Google has had extensive hardware issues, and their customer service is supremely awful.
And I'd pick it over Samsung. Samsung is actively hostile toward unlocked bootloaders and custom ROM's. They also have a lengthy history of battery problems - the Galaxy Note 8 was not an aberration, merely the most severe.
Motorola/Lenovo makes decent hardware, but are completely falling down on updates. My wife's One Action is only 15 months old, and is still running Android 10 at a Nov 1, 2021 patch level. Supposedly the premise of the whole "Android One" program was that it would make it easier for the OEM's to issue timely updates and upgrades. Doesn't seem to be working.
To sum it up: The OnePlus is not great, but in the US market, it's still slightly better than the alternatives.

I bought a 256gb/12gb in mint condition for $550 USD that should be here tomorrow. I almost gave up on the idea but then saw the price and figured I'd give it a shot.
I looked forward to trying it out! Now to decide which ROM. LOS, Derp, Nameless or Stag. It's a fun problem I've missed having.
Thanks for all of the input, it helped a lot actually.

Yes. definitely. I just sold 8T model and bought 9 Pro for a good price. I will stick with Android 11 as long as I can, because IMHO A12 is childish and awful looking (especially these big fonts).

Semetery said:
around $650, used
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yes, i bought the same way, for similar price, it's worth it. you save money and there are no performance differences or use signs.
just make sure the seller is reputable and you will be fine, for me warranties failed me more than resellers. pro phones usually cost too much and aren't worth the cash unless you find sucha discount from resellers, which phones are rarely used and justa s good as factory. i always choose a physical seller so if there was an issue, have them located, AliExpress is not trustworthy.
about the phone, its very good. the main problem is the default ROM which isnt good at all. on the ohter hand, its easier to flash a custom ROM on OnePlus than almost any brand out there, and this will fix all your bugs, double battery time, half internet data consumption, refresh rate and overall performance. totally recommended
EDIT: i see you bought it for just 550$, which is even better. at that price is definitely even more worth it.