Question Android 11 or 12 for MotoG60 - Moto G40 / G60

I currently have my MotoG60 on Android 11 and I'm hesitating to update it to 12 after all the negative reviews I've read online.
I would be grateful for an honest feedback on 12 here, mostly on RAM and battery usage changes.
Android 11 RAM usage ranges typically from 2.5GB to 3.1GB out of total 5.9GB (on moderate usage)
Battery lasts great (about 3 days of moderate usage)
A similar comparison on Android 12 would be great!

Very honest feedback is Stay on 11, Until a completely clean update of Android 12 comes.
Install magisk debloter & disable useless apk & and enjoy with your moto g⁶⁰

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Info about a5 2017 battery autonomy with android nougat

Hello, I would like to buy the samsung galaxy a5 2017 because I read online that the battery life is quite high, only that all the reviews I read refer to the smartphone with android marshmallow so i would like to know if the autonomy of the battery is always the same with the update to nougat , thanks.
Randy_Orton91 said:
Hello, I would like to buy the samsung galaxy a5 2017 because I read online that the battery life is quite high, only that all the reviews I read refer to the smartphone with android marshmallow so i would like to know if the autonomy of the battery is always the same with the update to nougat , thanks.
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7 hrs 31 min SOT if that really helps
moozer said:
7 hrs 31 min SOT if that really helps
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wow thanks really much time! And the overall usage time as it was?
Randy_Orton91 said:
wow thanks really much time! And the overall usage time as it was?
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That is an average since 1st November using GSM battery monitor. Usage varies, but I use the device as usual (SMS, email, browsing, etc) and also some heavy gaming and YouTube viewing. Today, I've done those things plus approximately 6 hours using GPS with High Accuracy.
Please note: I am NOT an advocate of SOT and regard it as a fairly contentious measure of a device's battery consumption. Each device's SOT varies significantly between users and usage. The above SOT that I have shared with you is simply a guide.
Personally, I have noticed with each device I have owned that battery consumption improves with each Android release. My last three devices have been testament to that (Sony Xperia SP - KK, L, M; Moto X Play - L, M, N; Galaxy A5 2017 - M, N).
I hope the above helps.
moozer said:
That is an average since 1st November using GSM battery monitor. Usage varies, but I use the device as usual (SMS, email, browsing, etc) and also some heavy gaming and YouTube viewing. Today, I've done those things plus approximately 6 hours using GPS with High Accuracy.
Please note: I am NOT an advocate of SOT and regard it as a fairly contentious measure of a device's battery consumption. Each device's SOT varies significantly between users and usage. The above SOT that I have shared with you is simply a guide.
Personally, I have noticed with each device I have owned that battery consumption improves with each Android release. My last three devices have been testament to that (Sony Xperia SP - KK, L, M; Moto X Play - L, M, N; Galaxy A5 2017 - M, N).
I hope the above helps.
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ok thank you so much for your help and explanation, however on average it is a smartphone that has a little more autonomy than its direct competitors also with nougat
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I have 30% left on battry on my A7 and it'h 6h screen on time its exelent
Remarq im on android nougat
my SOT after the nougat update is worse than on MM. Now I have around 3h SOT from around 5h SOT before the update
My battery averages 6-8 hrs SOT since I've bought my a5 2017.

Miui 12 Global SOT

Hi guys been using miui 12 for two months and I don't want to go to custom roms. is there anyway to get SOT like miui 11 android 9.
now only getting 5-6hrs at most.
what will i do.
is Chinese rom better than Global?
Using stock MIUI 12.0.3
I have never run the battery down all of the way, but by extrapolation it looks like I can get about 10 hrs, assuming just screen time with minimal standby.
With my normal use, overall I get 2 full days on a charge, each day with 3-4 hrs SOT.
Unplug early in the morning, and plug back in evening the next day.
jshames said:
Using stock MIUI 12.0.3
I have never run the battery down all of the way, but by extrapolation it looks like I can get about 10 hrs, assuming just screen time with minimal standby.
With my normal use, overall I get 2 full days on a charge, each day with 3-4 hrs SOT.
Unplug early in the morning, and plug back in evening the next day.
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Have you optimized apps ART cache through ADB or at least done factory reset after update? Cause I'm getting low SOT (on EEA) too and considering one of those options... or both
parkourz said:
Have you optimized apps ART cache through ADB or at least done factory reset after update? Cause I'm getting low SOT (on EEA) too and considering one of those options... or both
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he is not a heavy user
parkourz said:
Have you optimized apps ART cache through ADB or at least done factory reset after update? Cause I'm getting low SOT (on EEA) too and considering one of those options... or both
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Ever since I upgraded the battery life has been terrible and I tried the ADB method, and honestly I haven't noticed that much of improvements, now I'm considering to format my device.
so it's miui 12 for redmi note 8 pro ****ty? i should stay on miui 11 and not upgrade mine?
ImJacky said:
so it's miui 12 for redmi note 8 pro ****ty? i should stay on miui 11 and not upgrade mine?
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it happens with every major update where the battery life and the performance become a little horrible, a factory reset is always advised.
ImJacky said:
so it's miui 12 for redmi note 8 pro ****ty? i should stay on miui 11 and not upgrade mine?
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For me miui 12 has better battery life then miui 11.
I'm getting 10 hours SOT easily and am very satisfied with the overall performance and gui after debloating.
I kept data but cleaned system, cache, dalvik and vendor.
But clean installation is as always recommended.
Another thing, give battery life a couple of days of use to normalise after upgrading.
In almost every case after upgrading, especially dirty flashing, there's a noticeable increase of battery usage as the system has to rebuild caches and kernel to stabilise.
Especially the media scanner is consuming power in the background depending on data storage. Adding .nomedia files to folders you don't want to be indexed helps a lot.
Overall, don't judge the battery life too soon after upgrading.
Hi,
Did you guys find out a solution?
I have the EU rom 12.0.3.0 on my Mi 9T and I still have a 5-6 hours SOT.
The battery is not draining when I put it on flight mode which is good.
I do have a normal use of my phone: whatsapp, emails, internet...
I have as well restricted many apps in the background.
I dont know what to do more to have a better SOT (2 days without charging my phone), except coming back to miu10... which is a shame because i bought this phone to enjoy last os.

Android 11 performance vs android 10

Is it true that android 10 performance better than Android 11 performance
Hothardware.com said Android 11 performance drops
So do you recommend me staying on Android 10 or Android in terms of performance
Thanks
fox_queen said:
Is it true that android 10 performance better than Android 11 performance
Hothardware.com said Android 11 performance drops
So do you recommend me staying on Android 10 or Android in terms of performance
Thanks
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i tested some A11 roms,the ram usage on some is actually better due to few package
but i faced some unexplained frame drops from time to time (changing kernel also didn't help)
so right now A10 is the way (for ginkgo)
loopypalm said:
i tested some A11 roms,the ram usage on some is actually better due to few package
but i faced some unexplained frame drops from time to time (changing kernel also didn't help)
so right now A10 is the way (for ginkgo)
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EMUI 11.0.0.125 seeding in Mate 20 X AL00 India

My Mate 20 X AL00 updated successfully to EMUI 11 (close to 3 GB) and the initial impressions are good.
November 2020 security patch.
New animation for charging, icons, windows closing-opening, etc.
UI is smoother and fluidic than previous.
Loud Speaker output almost similar to Stock EMUI 9
Battery backup similar to previous.
Petal Search is awesome.
MeeTime
Will post more after using for few days.
Cheers!
myavu said:
My Mate 20 X AL00 updated successfully to EMUI 11 (close to 3 GB) and the initial impressions are good.
November 2020 security patch.
New animation for charging, icons, windows closing-opening, etc.
UI is smoother and fluidic than previous.
Loud Speaker output almost similar to Stock EMUI 9
Battery backup similar to previous.
Petal Search is awesome.
MeeTime
Will post more after using for few days.
Cheers!
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Did anyone else get this update? Cannot find it through VPN :/ Also are you still forced to use stock launcher ?
bonczas said:
Did anyone else get this update? Cannot find it through VPN :/ Also are you still forced to use stock launcher ?
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Yes I am using stock launcher and I am happy with it.
Yep I got it on my AL00 using it in US on T-Mobile and ATT but was on my home wifi used Support app to do update. Still no way to set 3rd party launchers as default.
hey guys, received the update notification for 11.0.0.125 yesterday here in Singapore. Sporting a chinese EVR-AL00 8/256 GB model and was on EMUI 10.1.0.167 previously. Here the details:
So far so good, some of the settings are re-arranged and look different, new animations and vibration patterns, Security Patch got updated, as well as the Kernel version (didnt check previous Baseband but im assuming that got also updated). Lets see how battery life is!
jbmc83 said:
hey guys, received the update notification for 11.0.0.125 yesterday here in Singapore. Sporting a chinese EVR-AL00 8/256 GB model and was on EMUI 10.1.0.167 previously. Here the details:
So far so good, some of the settings are re-arranged and look different, new animations and vibration patterns, Security Patch got updated, as well as the Kernel version (didnt check previous Baseband but im assuming that got also updated). Lets see how battery life is!
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Hows the battery life on it so far?
Deanro said:
Hows the battery life on it so far?
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pretty sweet, averaging 17h15m SOT as per AccuBattery can highly recommend using DuckDuckGo browser and Hibernator Pro to save on data and energy consumption!
jbmc83 said:
pretty sweet, averaging 17h15m SOT as per AccuBattery can highly recommend using DuckDuckGo browser and Hibernator Pro to save on data and energy consumption!
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Hi jbmc,
No offense but I cannot believe you get 17 hours SOT. Not calling you a liar. Probably accubattery is not reading your phone correctly.
I have the L29 from singapore - although I live in USA with both singapore and USA sim cards. Do you know when my phone will get the 11 update?
Deanro said:
Hi jbmc,
No offense but I cannot believe you get 17 hours SOT. Not calling you a liar. Probably accubattery is not reading your phone correctly.
I have the L29 from singapore - although I live in USA with both singapore and USA sim cards. Do you know when my phone will get the 11 update?
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haha i get it, I also had to check my actual usage and the screen active time shown in the settings under battery, it actually pans out! after roughly 8.5 hours SOT i was at around 50% battery left.
as for the EMUI 11 rollout, really no idea my friend. it seems the timings of the regional specific rollouts are all over the place. only thing i can say is that it will surely come in general tho, chinese models usually get served first before the international counterparts-
jbmc83 said:
haha i get it, I also had to check my actual usage and the screen active time shown in the settings under battery, it actually pans out! after roughly 8.5 hours SOT
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Exactly. No one gets past 10 -12 hours SOT on the 20x. Cheers
Deanro said:
Exactly. No one gets past 10 -12 hours SOT on the 20x. Cheers
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read again, it checks out
jbmc83 said:
read again, it checks out
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The hell are you talking about
Deanro said:
The hell are you talking about
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dunno what to tell u man *lol*
but im serious, ive always been one to optimize the heck out of the system to maximize SOT
i.e. settings permissions for ALL apps depending on how i use them, restricting background data as much as possible, using wifi wherever available, tuning in min usable screen brightness, setting battery optimization for all apps, switching off all sensors whenever i dont actively use them (i.e. NFC, BT, GPS, etc.), using apps like Hibernator Pro or Greenify to hibernate all unused apps, using privacy focused browser like DuckDuckGo to save on unnecessary data, using 3G instead of 4G/LTE to minimize energy consumption....
every little bit helps and then u end up with awesome SOT
jbmc83 said:
dunno what to tell u man *lol*
but im serious, ive always been one to optimize the heck out of the system to maximize SOT
i.e. settings permissions for ALL apps depending on how i use them, restricting background data as much as possible, using wifi wherever available, tuning in min usable screen brightness, setting battery optimization for all apps, switching off all sensors whenever i dont actively use them (i.e. NFC, BT, GPS, etc.), using apps like Hibernator Pro or Greenify to hibernate all unused apps, using privacy focused browser like DuckDuckGo to save on unnecessary data, using 3G instead of 4G/LTE to minimize energy consumption....
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Ok youre confusing because before you agreed with me that it was not possible to get sot of 17 hours on android 11. Now youre saying it is possible but only by turning off unneeded background data, wifi, apps etc., not through android 11 alone. You also didnt confirm that you had android 11 installed.
Even if you took all of the steps you mentioned you cannot go from 8 - 9 SOT and double it to 17. Thats impossible.
Deanro said:
Ok youre confusing because before you agreed with me that it was not possible to get sot of 17 hours on android 11. Now youre saying it is possible but only by turning off unneeded background data, wifi, apps etc., not through android 11 alone. You also didnt confirm that you had android 11 installed.
Even if you took all of the steps you mentioned you cannot go from 8 - 9 SOT and double it to 17. Thats impossible.
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ah no, u misunderstood mate, i was agreeing with you that it initially seemed too good to be true, but after checking SOT via different sources i was able to confirm those runtimes
I have EMUI 11 / Android 10 installed, Android 11 is not available on the Mate 20 series.
I was never down to 8-9 hours SOT to begin with...unless maybe at max screen brightness and using Maps with High perf. GPS on 4G mobile data all day long haha.
Before on EMUI 10.1 with Greenify and CM Browser I was at around 12-14h SOT, now im more in the range of 16-18h on EMUI 11 with Hibernator Pro and DuckDuckGo Browser.
Hope that clears things up!
jbmc83 said:
ah no, u misunderstood mate, i was agreeing with you that it initially seemed too good to be true, but after checking SOT via different sources i was able to confirm those runtimes
I have EMUI 11 / Android 10 installed, Android 11 is not available on the Mate 20 series.
I was never down to 8-9 hours SOT to begin with...unless maybe at max screen brightness and using Maps with High perf. GPS on 4G mobile data all day long haha.
Before on EMUI 10.1 with Greenify and CM Browser I was at around 12-14h SOT, now im more in the range of 16-18h on EMUI 11 with Hibernator Pro and DuckDuckGo Browser.
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Hi there,
I have android 10/emui 10.1 on my mate 20x. But you say you have emui 11 but that android 11 isnt available for the mate series. I think you made a typo.
You said you had greenify on 10.1. But how can that be if you cant root the 20x on that version?
With hibernator pro what apps and system services did you freeze? I will do the same with mine.
Its just not possible to get double the SOT on the 20x when max SOT is 10 hours. Hope youre not trolling. Something isnt right here.
Deanro said:
Hi there,
I have android 10/emui 10.1 on my mate 20x. But you say you have emui 11 but that android 11 isnt available for the mate series. I think you made a typo.
You said you had greenify on 10.1. But how can that be if you cant root the 20x on that version?
With hibernator pro what apps and system services did you freeze? I will do the same with mine.
Its just not possible to get double the SOT on the 20x when max SOT is 10 hours. Hope youre not trolling. Something isnt right here.
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Not a typo. EMUI is NOT equal to Android. EMUI 11 for the Mate 20 series is based on Android 10, NOT 11.
You can use Greenify in non-root mode, no problem.
I can provide a list of apps and services on freeze for Hibernator Pro, just give me a bit of time.
Not trolling. Who says max SOT is 10 hours? my current values are in the range of 14-18 hours depending on usage and averaging roughly 15-16.
Edit: I attached a screenshot of Battery usage for the past 7 days as shown in Accubattery. At 5.4%/h for screen on, you would get a total of 100/5.4 = 18.5h of SOT. But of course, that is only if you use a whole battery charge with screen on. So you need to add in the energy consumption during screen off: 300% screen on + 45% screen off = 345 % total.
55h55m total SOT divided by 345% = 16.2h SOT per 100% charge on average.
Btw, when I compare the SOT times measured in Accubattery with the values shown under settings / Battery, they check out, both show the same values (at worst only a few minutes apart).
Also attached preference files for Hibernator Pro, hope this helps!
jbmc83 said:
Not a typo. EMUI is NOT equal to Android. EMUI 11 for the Mate 20 series is based on Android 10, NOT 11.
Not trolling. Who says max SOT is 10 hours? my current values are in the range of 14-18 hours depending on usage and averaging roughly 15-16.
Edit: I attached a screenshot of Battery usage for the past 7 days as shown in Accubattery. At 5.4%/h for screen on, you would get a total of 100/5.4 = 18.5h of SOT. But of course, that is only if you use a whole battery charge with screen on. So you need to add in the energy consumption during screen off: 300% screen on + 45% screen off = 345 % total.
55h55m total SOT divided by 345% = 16.2h SOT per 100% charge on average.
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Hi there,
I dont know if you have emui 11 so I cant confirm if you do or not. If you do indeed have emui 11 theres no way in hell huawei figured out how to double SOT on it since they werent able to before in 10.
Average SOT on 20x is 9 - 11 hours. Not double that. I've been reading this forum on the 20x for a year. I've never come across anyone claiming SOT greater than 12 hours. Never.
Is it possible to install your prefs into my Hibernator Pro?
If Hibernator Pro does that same job as greenify why use greenify at all? Which apps did you freeze in greenify?
Deanro said:
Hi there,
I dont know if you have emui 11 so I cant confirm if you do or not. If you do indeed have emui 11 theres no way in hell huawei figured out how to double SOT on it since they werent able to before in 10.
Average SOT on 20x is 9 - 11 hours. Not double that. I've been reading this forum on the 20x for a year. I've never come across anyone claiming SOT greater than 12 hours. Never.
Is it possible to install your prefs into my Hibernator Pro?
If Hibernator Pro does that same job as greenify why use greenify at all? Which apps did you freeze in greenify?
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yes i have EMUI 11 installed. never said they "doubled" SOT. as mentioned before, on EMUI 10.1 i was at roughly 12-14h SOT, now its about 2-4h more depending on usage. thats not double
tbh, i never fell down to 9-11h SOT unless in crazy circumstances (i.e. 100% screen brightness the whole time). so not sure how others are using their phone...
in any case, i cant do more than show u proof via screenshots. if you dont believe me, thats fine, not forcing anyone to do anything here. just providing info
should be possible by importing the preferences via settings i uploaded in Hibernator Pro. just double check the exception and hibernation lists afterwards, since i probably have different user apps installed than you. system apps should be almost identical though.
I had been using Greenify for years now, mostly on rooted phones. Since im not rooted on the 20x i used it in non-rooted mode. i wasnt aware of hibernator pro until just recently, so i just gave it a try and it works like a charm!
jbmc83 said:
yes i have EMUI 11 installed. never said they "doubled" SOT. as mentioned before, on EMUI 10.1 i was at roughly 12-14h SOT, now its about 2-4h more depending on usage. thats not double
tbh, i never fell down to 9-11h SOT unless in crazy circumstances (i.e. 100% screen brightness the whole time). so not sure how others are using their phone...
in any case, i cant do more than show u proof via screenshots. if you dont believe me, thats fine, not forcing anyone to do anything here. just providing info
should be possible by importing the preferences via settings i uploaded in Hibernator Pro. just double check the exception and hibernation lists afterwards, since i probably have different user apps installed than you. system apps should be almost identical though.
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Ok I'm confused again by your statement. You cannot get 12 - 14h SOT when everyone gets an average of 8 - 10h SOT. Your claim of 17h SOT is roughly double what everyone gets. So in essence you did say "doubling."
Then you outlandishly claim that android 11 isnt available for the mate series which is NOT true. Why do you say that when websites say it will be available for the 20x? Wish you would explain this with proof.
Its not that we dont want to believe you its that we cant believe you because your claims clearly fall far outside the norm. Post as many pics as you want as proof but those are not impossible to alter.

Question Why does Android 12 has higher power consumption?

So I've used MIUI, both global and xiaomi.eu, and also CrDroid custom ROM, all roms in android 11 and 12. What I've observed is that idle power consumption is higher on Android 12, I've used Accubattery but also other apps like Charge Meter to measure current used, and there is around 25-30mA more power used by Android 12, so when I'm doing nothing I can see around 90mA on Android 11 and 120mA on Android 12, both in MIUI or custom ROM, so maybe it's something to do with Android 12 itself, or maybe the firmware used by Xiaomi since Android 12 is just worse.

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