The stock camera app with OOS 12 allows selection of 48 Megapixel JPG in regular photo mode with a button labelled "High", but the Hasselblad Pro mode needed to choose RAW or to use manual camera settings does not offer a control to choose 48MP.
Is there another camera app that supports 48MP in RAW on this phone? (I tried the GCAM port discussed in this forum and I get get 48MP at all with that.)
While I know 48MP is overkill for most phots, I find the 48MP JPG actually gets more readable text on a large poster full of small text taken in daylight, so I have a good use case for 48MP.
Thanks
tk_xda said:
The stock camera app with OOS 12 allows selection of 48 Megapixel JPG in regular photo mode with a button labelled "High", but the Hasselblad Pro mode needed to choose RAW or to use manual camera settings does not offer a control to choose 48MP.
Is there another camera app that supports 48MP in RAW on this phone? (I tried the GCAM port discussed in this forum and I get get 48MP at all with that.)
While I know 48MP is overkill for most phots, I find the 48MP JPG actually gets more readable text on a large poster full of small text taken in daylight, so I have a good use case for 48MP.
Thanks
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RAW resolution is 12MP and no other app will help. In fact you can't even get unbinned (full res 48MP) jpegs in any 3rd party app
I know the 48MP JPEGs I can get with the stock camera app are unbinned because I see the results in small type on large format posters is clearly better than 12MP. I do see some JPEG artifacts and would like to get my hands on the 48MP unbinned RAW photos. Is there any way to do it? I have rooted the phone (for other reasons) if they can help in any way.
Can’t be done.
tk_xda said:
I know the 48MP JPEGs I can get with the stock camera app are unbinned because I see the results in small type on large format posters is clearly better than 12MP. I do see some JPEG artifacts and would like to get my hands on the 48MP unbinned RAW photos. Is there any way to do it? I have rooted the phone (for other reasons) if they can help in any way.
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Already told you in the first part of the message - it CAN'T be done. And it's hilarious that you can have better results from upscaled GCam 12MP to 48MP than the stock 48MP shot.
Arcide said:
And it's hilarious that you can have better results from upscaled GCam 12MP to 48MP than the stock 48MP shot.
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You misread what I wrote. It its the STOCK 48MP shot that is giving me the best image of tiny text on posters and those truly appear NOT to be upscaled. I was just hoping to be able to get a RAW 48MP out of this phone.
tk_xda said:
You misread what I wrote. It its the STOCK 48MP shot that is giving me the best image of tiny text on posters and those truly appear NOT to be upscaled. I was just hoping to be able to get a RAW 48MP out of this phone.
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No I didn't misread, I just told you stock is useless as you can very often get better results by upscaling 12MP from GCam than native 48MP from stock. That's how bad stock is due to aggressive processing
Here's a sample to check out. 12 to 48MP upscale in the GCam vs native 48MP stock. Pretty embarrassing for stock... But yeah 48MP RAW would be ideal.
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Is there a way to use 20mpx camera when using arnova Gcam?
No. Only OP5 users can switch to tele lens.
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No. Only OP5 users can switch to tele lens.
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Ok but, anyway, is 20mpx camera exploited by gcam to get better photo in some way or only the 16mpx cam is used in every situation so 20mpx is never "powered on"?
rmroot said:
Ok but, anyway, is 20mpx camera exploited by gcam to get better photo in some way or only the 16mpx cam is used in every situation so 20mpx is never "powered on"?
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In OOS 20MP camera is used only in auto mode and portrait to detect depth. It shoots 20MP photo then magic OP software interpolate it to lower res to "improve quality and decrease noise" and then i don't know why, extrapolates that image back to 20MP. If i'm right it is written in camera HAL so we can't do nothing with it... Test it by Yourself, just type *#*#1597#*#* in dialer and take photo with "tele" and "wide" in sunny day.
I'm not sure 100% about it, correct me if i'm wrong.
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In OOS 20MP camera is used only in auto mode and portrait to detect depth. It shoots 20MP photo then magic OP software interpolate it to lower res to "improve quality and decrease noise" and then i don't know why, extrapolates that image back to 20MP. If i'm right it is written in camera HAL so we can't do nothing with it... Test it by Yourself, just type *#*#1597#*#* in dialer and take photo with "tele" and "wide" in sunny day.
I'm not sure 100% about it, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Dialer? Why using dialer to take photo?
@rmroot You use dialer to input this code I wrote earlier. It opens camera app which now allows You to switch lenses manually.
Siljorfag said:
@rmroot You use dialer to input this code I wrote earlier. It opens camera app which now allows You to switch lenses manually.
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Is this woring also on AOSP?
Hey guys, I found a way to take a 48MP photo with raw. It's very simple.
1- get the app on play store named " Footej Camera"
2- open the app
3- slide to left and go to "RAW" option
4- if you wanna know the resolution just go on the gear top left, go to photo, and resolution. The back camera gets 48MP and the front one gets 32MP.
It's a very nice app, and if you are like me and like to take long exposure photos in the app the iso option it's higher than on official camera app.
Cool! How about Open Camera? I think that can do more tricks ...
How about the quality of the pictures .. cause i'm using GCam and works perfecly fine
MathePro said:
Hey guys, I found a way to take a 48MP photo with raw. It's very simple.
1- get the app on play store named " Footej Camera"
2- open the app
3- slide to left and go to "RAW" option
4- if you wanna know the resolution just go on the gear top left, go to photo, and resolution. The back camera gets 48MP and the front one gets 32MP.
It's a very nice app, and if you are like me and like to take long exposure photos in the app the iso option it's higher than on official camera app.
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Could you share some DNG raw photos in 48mpx ?
Thanks
helder.vice said:
Could you share some DNG raw photos in 48mpx ?
Thanks
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Now I'm see it, when u take a raw photo the max "MP" u can get it's 12MP ??
Any way, here's the raw photos in a zip archive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-WBG---ou4C04agb88Fu86DO8DVHLneo
MathePro said:
Any way, here's the raw photos in a zip archive
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-WBG---ou4C04agb88Fu86DO8DVHLneo
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Thank you for the raw photos.
From analysis, the DNG files have a lot of color noise and purple fringing on the shadows.
These are not good at all for a 48mpx sensor with pixel binning.
Would you be able to use a Gcam apk and take a few DNG raw photos as well ?
I know that gcam does some processing with the raw files.
Obrigado
Hi,
Before buying i'm wondering if you're ale to take 64MP pictures on third party apps? I'm most interested in Open Camera. If yes, does Open Camera allows to shoot 64 MP in RAW format? Could someone with phone check it ?
Its totally normal....stock camera is build for this sensor
Yes, but stock app dosn't support RAW, but phone support camera 2 API, so i'm wondering if you can take 64MP RAW pictures on third party apps ?
Only gcam have 16mp raw on main camera. All others camera applications have same problem with raw, on main camera. "Failed to start camera preview."
Snap Camera HDR also capture RAW 16mp and jpeg 64mp with main cam.
The advantage of GCam is that when it does HDR, does it in JPEG and RAW also. On a Snap cam, when we turn on RAW it no longer capture HDR even it shows that it is on.
Something interesting with a Snap Camera, unlike a stock camera, a Snap Camera can produce an HDR image with 64mp jpeg, like as GCam 6 with 64.xml profile on portrait mode.
what's the quality of RAW format?
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what's the quality of RAW format?
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Raw is ok.
Before and after lightroom.
Can the Redmi Note 8 do RAW/DNG with 48MP?
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With the note 8T I can shoot raw with the 48MP sensor using open camera, and using camera2 api in the app settings.
Sorry for being a dumbo..but why shoot in RAW..what's the advantage
russy23 said:
Sorry for being a dumbo..but why shoot in RAW..what's the advantage
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Not knowing is not being dumb.
Basically, any sensor sends RAW data to the camera app, then the app does some magic (adjusting exposure, colors, details, reducing noise) and gives you a ready to use jpeg: that is what does the xiaomi camera app.
Shooting raw allows you to save the RAW data, and do the magic yourself in a RAW editing software like Adobe Lightroom.
Editing a jpeg image doesn't allow a lot of modification of the image: if you're not happy with the magic the camera app did, there is not really much you can do about it.
Shooting and editing RAW is more time consuming, there is a learning curve, and the result is not instant: you have to edit the RAW. But usually the result is better than the automatic magic from the camera app: you have more room when adjusting shadows, highlights, colors, geometry, lens issues like chromatic aberration, and noise reduction software or plugins all do a better job than any camera app.
modryke said:
Not knowing is not being dumb.
Basically, any sensor sends RAW data to the camera app, then the app does some magic (adjusting exposure, colors, details, reducing noise) and gives you a ready to use jpeg: that is what does the xiaomi camera app.
Shooting raw allows you to save the RAW data, and do the magic yourself in a RAW editing software like Adobe Lightroom.
Editing a jpeg image doesn't allow a lot of modification of the image: if you're not happy with the magic the camera app did, there is not really much you can do about it.
Shooting and editing RAW is more time consuming, there is a learning curve, and the result is not instant: you have to edit the RAW. But usually the result is better than the automatic magic from the camera app: you have more room when adjusting shadows, highlights, colors, geometry, lens issues like chromatic aberration, and noise reduction software or plugins all do a better job than any camera app.
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Well said :good: and informative, not only to RAW dumbo but to most ...
Cool..thanks for answering
I have to add a correction.
I thought I could capture 48MP RAW image with open camera. It turns out the raws are only 3984 x 2984 (11.8MP).
12MPix DNG are better quality than "48Pix" JPG from Xiaomi Camera
modryke said:
I have to add a correction.
I thought I could capture 48MP RAW image with open camera. It turns out the raws are only 3984 x 2984 (11.8MP).
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Since the "48Mpix" chip is kind of PR bull****. When zoomed to 100 % on the JPEGs shoot at so-called 48Mpix the details are hardly better than the same photo on the default 16Mpix.
DNG files produced by Google Camera, after processed with the modified DCR to get reasonable colours in Adobe Camera RAW / Lightroom Classic, can even with the "just 12Mpix" resolution create so sharp pictures that it does not make sense trying to get something more out of it. Yes, perhaps the chip natively has the megapixels but I think based on the close look at the Xiaomi photos that the 48Pix is a hype calculated by using all the RGBG subpixels as if it was a "real" pixel, then the app does some magic in the sense of making 4 pictures in a row (similar to how the HDR mode works) and then extrapolates the resolution out of 4 16MPix photos.
Hello,
What is the best camera app to shot in RAW so as I can edit?
Do you know a better raw files than the original?
Thanks
RAW files are direct from the sensor! Any app capable of shooting RAW will give you the same file!
Only difference is if a third-party app let you save the 64MP RAW images from the telephoto sensor
Edit - it appears I may be wrong in this statement as others have outlined below.
Devhux said:
RAW files are direct from the sensor! Any app capable of shooting RAW will give you the same file!
Only difference is if a third-party app let you save the 64MP RAW images from the telephoto sensor
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Ok I asked because with my older OnePlus 5T with GCam has much better RAW files than stock camera.
DoKaTSuYa said:
Hello,
What is the best camera app to shot in RAW so as I can edit?
Do you know a better raw files than the original?
Thanks
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Lightroom (for Android) is a complete software ..you can don alot from your RAW phone image.
But not free.
DoKaTSuYa said:
Ok I asked because with my older OnePlus 5T with GCam has much better RAW files than stock camera.
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Because it's not true what he says. Gcam for example uses a lot of image processing technologies like even before the demosaicing process, that contribute to a better picture. as far as i remember even burst images are melted into the raw picture. That's why you have much better dynamic range and details and noise as in other RAW-Cameras. As long as this is not standardized and enabled via API for all new Phones/Apps, using RAW in Smartphones beside GCAM does not make any sense.
Ok, so for me the RAW from GCAM is way better than the original RAW.... it's not all the same RAW files finally.
The one of the S20 is not really good to me... What do you think ?
Do you think that it will be possible to shot RAW with the Ultra Wide Sensor and the 64mpx? One day...?