Why did we abandon our P4 and P4XL? - Google Pixel 4 XL Themes, Apps, and Mods

I just got a new pixel 4 xl from Google. Yes I said new. I had a bad battery batch from my preorder pixel 4 xl and it wasn't as bad but it was sensitive to 70°F Santa Cruz CA weather and over heat while charging in my car. I'm a phone technician myself so I'm savvy on quality charging equipment always used it. But it took this long to convince and my phone finally "not reading meter" not charging. It came with Android 10 still. So its upgraded to 13 and it's the 3rd fastest google phone out so why is my pixel 3xl which started rebooting over and over still getting lineage 13 updates but no android 13 custom roms for the 4 xl? I might have to change that start selling a AWS script to build 13 Roms?

I think maybe it's because it's still supported, and android 13 was launch mast month, so maybe as there isn't a very high demand, and it has been launch recently, devs didn't made the android 13 roms.
I would like to create them but I am working in getting a method to unlock the bootloader of a carrier-locked Pixel.

darkpower_4 said:
I just got a new pixel 4 xl from Google. Yes I said new. I had a bad battery batch from my preorder pixel 4 xl and it wasn't as bad but it was sensitive to 70°F Santa Cruz CA weather and over heat while charging in my car. I'm a phone technician myself so I'm savvy on quality charging equipment always used it. But it took this long to convince and my phone finally "not reading meter" not charging. It came with Android 10 still. So its upgraded to 13 and it's the 3rd fastest google phone out so why is my pixel 3xl which started rebooting over and over still getting lineage 13 updates but no android 13 custom roms for the 4 xl? I might have to change that start selling a AWS script to build 13 Roms?
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hows your battery and SoT in A13?

kmry said:
hows your battery and SoT in A13?
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My battery usually lasts the hole day, with motion sense enabled and the always on display based on motion sense. Medium usage though. For high usage I need to charge it on the middle of the day .
I don't know what SoT means

#mcl said:
My battery usually lasts the hole day, with motion sense enabled and the always on display based on motion sense. Medium usage though. For high usage I need to charge it on the middle of the day .
I don't know what SoT means
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SoT means Screen On time, which is how many hours you really use the phone with the screen ont; you can find more on the battery configuration or with GSAM for example.

kmry said:
hows your battery and SoT in A13?
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Well it's definitely better I've been using soli now that I have a new battery and the battery life has been about the same if I'm comparing it to 6 months before I had to rma it with soli disabled. I've been putting it through its rounds as a doordash driver. It doesn't die as quickly it runs a lot better. Android 11 was the worst I felt like when 12 came out I was robbed a whole year of performance before and 13 is even better I just want there to be security updates.

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android system battery drain

Hi, does anyone know how to fix android system battery drain, i had this since i upgraded to android n and im on oxygen os 4.0.3
Nope.. How is your SoT? How much power does Android system consume? Mine is 403mAh after 4h SoT. As I can see it is not ridiculous high.
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Nope.. How is your SoT? How much power does Android system consume? Mine is 403mAh after 4h SoT. As I can see it is not ridiculous high.
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Same here , i get 3.5 to 4 hours of sot , while i used to get 5 before the update.
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Same here , i get 3.5 to 4 hours of sot , while i used to get 5 before the update.
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That flat line is without airplane mode. WiFi everything on. I found it pretty decent.
ironshadow2 said:
Hi, does anyone know how to fix android system battery drain, i had this since i upgraded to android n and im on oxygen os 4.0.3
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I also have the same issue. Since upgraing to nougat andeoid system drain has always been high even on custom roms although not as high as oos. And yeah based on my usage i too get an sot of 4 hours whereas i used to get 5 hours on similar usage on marshmallow.
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bonham1988 said:
I also have the same issue. Since upgraing to nougat andeoid system drain has always been high even on custom roms although not as high as oos. And yeah based on my usage i too get an sot of 4 hours whereas i used to get 5 hours on similar usage on marshmallow.
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Ok thnx , now i know its because of android n , hope it get better with software update .
Same here.
Battery has seen a big hit since Nougat. Wish I did not update. I can barely get 3h SoT.
I was facing same problem after update... Android OS was eating hell lots of battery.. ive installed custom rom nw my cell us working damn good
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d.a.v.o.r said:
Same here.
Battery has seen a big hit since Nougat. Wish I did not update. I can barely get 3h SoT.
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Have you tried wiping caches? Letting battery go to absolute zero. Then charging without turning phone off?
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MrWilsonxD said:
Have you tried wiping caches? Letting battery go to absolute zero. Then charging without turning phone off?
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I have no interest in doing any such maintenance things. Which is a strange thing to be saying on these boards, I know
I started having issues with the OS using an unusually high amount of power a week ago. I was using EX kernel and manager. I didn't change anything, but I don't morning my phone was noticeably warm and the battery was draining very quickly. I tried a few different OOS based rom/kernel combinations. Anytime I install a custom kernel or even any apps that provide kernel tweaking options (even if I never open them), the issues return. The small cores rarely dip below 1190 MHz and the big cores stay at 1478mhz or higher. It sleeps normally when the screen is off. The only way to get lower speeds with screen on is to set max lower than that, then they just stay maxed out and everything lags. I tried with fresh installs and even went back to ext4. It's strange, as I'd been using the same Experience rom/EX kernel setup for quite some time when the issue arose. Now I'm still on Experience, but with stock kernel and no tweaking apps, and I'm back to 5+hrs SOT.
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I have no interest in doing any such maintenance things. Which is a strange thing to be saying on these boards, I know
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So you'll complain but not do anything to try and fix it. All phones have problems eventually. Just like cars. They all require maintenance.
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So you'll complain but not do anything to try and fix it. All phones have problems eventually. Just like cars. They all require maintenance.
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You expect aunts and uncles and mother and fathers to mess with wiping cache in their phones?
That's insane.
OP3 have themselves said "flagship killer" which means it0s intended for the same audience as GS7 and such phones. So no friking tinkering. it has to just work.
That being said, i'm still happy with my OP3 and Nougat overall. But battery life is somewhat worse.
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You expect aunts and uncles and mother and fathers to mess with wiping cache in their phones?
That's insane.
OP3 have themselves said "flagship killer" which means it0s intended for the same audience as GS7 and such phones. So no friking tinkering. it has to just work.
That being said, i'm still happy with my OP3 and Nougat overall. But battery life is somewhat worse.
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I don't think it's insane. I know a lot of technologically capable older folk. They're definitely the minority xD but seriously, that does not change the fact you came on here, complained about batt life, see things that could improve it that are extremely simple, but won't do it. Leave the aunts and uncles out of you not wanting to do maintenance.
In my experience, I've seen every single phone had problems iPhones every generation, flagship Samsung DEFINITELY, ZTE, etc. I don't think any phone automatically "just works." At the same time, while my note 4 was running at an ambient temperature of 60°C on a daily basis, I've had friends who have faced identical problems and never had their phone get hot. No phone is perfect.
My mom jailbroke our iPhone 3 and 4. When we went to Android, she knew how root and remove bloatware a full year before i did. She's a City bus driver. So i don't think counting out my elders is quite fair. I was introduced to OnePlus by someone well over 55. Back when it was the invite system lol.
These experiences may or may not be considered anecdotal, but i am very happy to hear you still enjoy your OnePlus 3 man.

How is battery life on your Pixel XL? (Oreo 8.1.0)

I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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Same thoughts, except its not Oreo which has degraded the backup, but 8.1 specifically which totally ****ed it up.
liam_davenport said:
Personally I think google gimpped 8.1 to make us all upgrade to Pixel 2's I had no issues with performance/battery life on prior to Oreo suddenly my phone performs like sh!t now I get around 24hr standby with 4-5hrs sot but on N I was getting around 34-35hrs standby with 6-7hrs sot
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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Tell that to Apple.
Shawn haz root said:
Tell that to Apple.
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Apple's reasoning of decreasing performance was to increase device battery longevity, not to increase sales of their next product. In fact, a dead battery which renders a phone unuseable is more likely going to present the idea of purchasing a new device versus someone who barely notices a slowdown in opening an app. I think it's more important to give a customer the option of calling emergency services through a slowdown phone versus a dead phone.
Their idea is great but implementation and transparency could have been better.
As a company, you don't give yourself premium status if you sell inferior products that easily get outdated.
TLDR: Apple products age very well, yet they still are able to empty shelves with their latest products.
I got my Pixel XL from Google as a replacement for a Nexus 6P last September. It came with Oreo 8.0.0* and I was thrilled with the battery life, especially after the dismal battery life of the 6P. After I updated to 8.1.0 in December, my battery now is at 30% at the end of an average day, instead of 50% with 8.0.0. I'm thinking of flashing back to the last versions of 8.0.0 and taking my chances with not having the security updates.
Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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Has anyone flashed back? Can anyone think of a reason (besides the small security risk) that I wouldn't want to do this?
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LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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That doesn't sound right. As a company trying to build a customer base, you don't sell your next product by worsening your current product to try and get users to get the new one. For example, if car manufacturers did that with their cars by making it break down after 3-4 years, nobody would want to buy it again or even try it.
Another example but in the mobile world would be Samsung. Lots of people mention how they won't buy a Samsung product because they start lagging after a period of time. Could this be that they are doing it intentionally to make you upgrade to the next one? Imagine how many more sales they would get if their didn't "intentionally" lag their phones.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
ithehappy said:
LoL of course I did. Went back to 8.0 after 8.1 December release and its pathetic battery backup. Funny thing is, after flashing back 8.0 the backup didn't increase, it was same bad as it was on 8.1. And it stayed the same for first 5-6 charging cycles too, however then I started to get better for the next charging cycles, I started to get the usual 5-6 hours of SoT, but then the January 8.1 update released and I flashed it, now my battery backup is average. 4 hours of SoT with adaptive brightness enabled, 5 hours with it disabled.
If you stay indoors most of the time then absolutely disable the awfully poorly implemented adaptive brightness on 8.1. That will help you gain some minutes of SoT for sure.
Poor battery backup, swiping issues, 8.1 is one hell of a stupid release really.
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LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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I think that google tried to put too many features at once WITHOUT tweaking the features for battery. They are not like apple and if they are, they are a lot less strict with it. I applied some root tweaks and got about 6 hrs of SOT, I am having the same problem after the update, but history says that google's releases slowly patch underlying issues
ithehappy said:
LoL keep believing that. Like these greedy ****s nowadays care about customer base, all they care about is selling their newly released devices by crapping up the old gen ones, because the old gen ones don't get manufactured any more, and the company has already brought in most of the profits from it, so no point in maintaining those phones in a good shape.
When all the 3 releases of 8.0 were fantastic and suddenly 8.1 pops up which is supposed to be an upgrade but all it brings are bugs, a rational mind will always think it's deliberate, which is the case anyway.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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Did any of you jokers even read what he said? He said 12 minutes SOT equals 4% battery. That's 5 hours SOT, in his estimation.
It is very likely that 4% battery in his statement is really 3% battery because his battery ticked down to a lower percent just after he noted the reading.
Now, 3% battery in 12 minutes of SOT is very normal for an optimized Pixel XL usage and medium screen brightness. That literally means 6 hours and 40 minutes of SOT. That is what anyone can get without going to extremes with optimizing battery usage.
The best I have ever gotten with Pixel XL was 6 minutes per 1% of battery or 10 hours SOT and that is just playing youtube videos on wifi with lowest brightness and nothing running in background.
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Of course a company should make it a priority to make a profit as they are in the business to make money. They aren't running a charity after all. But in my opinion, it's wrong to believe that a company is trying to sell their next product by deliberately making their products bad/inferior. Why would someone purchase a product from a company that only lasts a year or two when you can go elsewhere for a reliable product?
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Let us believe what we choose to, you don't need to worry about our beliefs LoL. This belief didn't come from some children story book either, but based on what's been happening of late, a judgement based on real life results.
Why would someone keep buying a company's products? That's not a bright question really, cause even after LG's G3, G4, G5, N5X etc. phones which all had hardware problems people still bought their next releases, and that's just one example out of many. I myself even after knowing, complaining that Google once ****ed up the battery backup of Pixel 2016s deliberately will look into their Pixel 3 whenever it releases, simply because money doesn't matter to me that much, and I'm not even anywhere near that rich.
That battery life sounds fine tbh.
Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
wazza1991 said:
Battery life when connected to mobile data is worse. As soon as i turn on data Google play services starts draining the battery. This doesn't happen when connected to WiFi. It's really annoying. I tried removing my Google account and adding it again, clearing cache etc. Nothing works.
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I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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I have a Pixel XL on January 8.1. I also have Magisk installed. I lose 2 - 3 % overnight. I can easily get 8 hours of sot. I usually don't use that much. I keep away from battery draining apps. Phone last all day. Best phone I ever had as far as battery consumption goes.
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8 hours SoT with 8.1, seems like a day dream for me.
My battery backup remains same, that is poor, still getting 4-5 hours SoT. A full hour less than what I used to get with 8.0. Device is around 8 months old.
Chance Ill said:
In all my years with Android, (since the days of the G1) I've never experienced such great battery life. I'm using the pixel XL 128gb 8.1 Oreo. Some days I finish the day with almost 10 hours screen on time with heavy use. Best battery life I've EVER had on any platform
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Thank you for sharing your experience. Can you please tell us which custom ROM and kernel did you flash? Also, what the health of your battery on AccuBattery? Thank You.
My Battery Life
jericho246 said:
I received a refurbished Pixel XL a few days ago and immediately updated to Oreo. The thing is, the battery life sucks. I probably got a dud because I just lost 4 percent of battery in 12 minutes of SOT while doing nothing heavy. I don't think that's normal. I tried factory reset and stuff like that but battery still drains very quickly. AccuBattery shows that my battery life is at 89%. Before I return it I'd like to hear what is battery life like for you guys on Oreo 8.1.0 Thanks
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I have btw 6:30/7:30 hs of SoT and a day I had 8hs of SoT with netflix and 4g on and wifi too

Android update 8.1 - April update Pixel

What do you guys think of the huge improvements!
https://9to5google.com/2018/04/02/google-pixel-april-18-functional-updates/
Looks very promising for me!
Thrillofit said:
What do you guys think of the huge improvements!
https://9to5google.com/2018/04/02/google-pixel-april-18-functional-updates/
Looks very promising for me!
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Nice! Can't wait for my favourite rom AquariOS to be updated
Thrillofit said:
What do you guys think of the huge improvements!
https://9to5google.com/2018/04/02/google-pixel-april-18-functional-updates/
Looks very promising for me!
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Multi touch didn't get fixed! ???
All sounds good to go on this badboy Pixel XL 2! Let's Rock!!
denism81 said:
Multi touch didn't get fixed!
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Whats wrong with multi touch? I installed a multitouch testing app on mine and it registers 10 fingers with no issues at all when I move them around and games work perfectly?
Hi all,
Quite noob on Pixel 2 XL, just rooted it with Magisk one month ago; so I'm still on February image.
How can I update to April image without losing anything, please? (Already downloaded the image, btw)
(Directly or with Skipsoft tollkit)
Thanks a lot!
dd66 said:
Hi all,
Quite noob on Pixel 2 XL, just rooted it with Magisk one month ago; so I'm still on February image.
How can I update to April image without losing anything, please? (Already downloaded the image, btw)
(Directly or with Skipsoft tollkit)
Thanks a lot!
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Just follow the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/how-to/guide-unlock-flash-root-pixel-2-xl-t3702418
1. Download the image and adb, twrp image and magisk zip
2. Flash the image without the -w parameter
3. Temporarily boot into twrp, flash the magisk zip and you're done, takes 5 minutes
Can someone say if this fixed the proximity sensor issue during calls?
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is the verizon pixel 2 xl bootloader unlockable? on april?
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Can someone say if this fixed the proximity sensor issue during calls?
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What kind of issue? Screen not turning off when covered or screen not turning on when uncovered? Either way, I was on a call earlier and it turned on and off fine.
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Screen not turning back on when you take the phone away from your ear during a call
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I think it's too early to tell the impact of most of those changes in my usage so far. Fingerprint sensor response has improved for me.
The biggest thing I was looking forward to was all the mentions of battery life improvements. Unfortunately battery life doesn't appear to be any better but so far doesn't appear to be any worse. The February and March updates really hurt battery life.
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Screen not turning back on when you take the phone away from your ear during a call
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No issue for me. I don't think that's a software issue. I think it's a hardware issue. The same thing happened on my Nexus 5X
I am on my second day of the April security patch and my battery life has gotten much worse. I got it launch day and I have always gotten 5-6 hours SoT for 18 hours off charge and still have 30% battery left. Yesterday I got 3.5 SoT for 18 hours and was at 4% when I plugged it in. I never had any adverse effect of battery life with the monthly patches until now. I havent factory reset since I bought the phone.
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is the verizon pixel 2 xl bootloader unlockable? on april?
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No. But we still see teaser posts that some whiz just discovered something that Google and Verizon simply don't know.
It's locked down tight on VZN models.
Have people been able to use the tethering module through magisk on the April update?
for me the initial install of April the battery life was better than March by far, but the next few days definitely doesn't seem much better, so pretty scary how quick the fall off was for the battery life fall off when looking the the battery stats pages. Touch responsiveness is much better, and generally the phone now feels like it should have been from the beginning.
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I am on my second day of the April security patch and my battery life has gotten much worse. I got it launch day and I have always gotten 5-6 hours SoT for 18 hours off charge and still have 30% battery left. Yesterday I got 3.5 SoT for 18 hours and was at 4% when I plugged it in. I never had any adverse effect of battery life with the monthly patches until now. I havent factory reset since I bought the phone.
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Usually by the end of the day im left with about 15 -20%. Now im to 15% around 5 or 6PM. Battery definitely draining much faster
My battery life has gotten stupidly better. First day was close to 5 hours SOT with 50% battery left at 20 hours off charger(normally would have been 2-3 hour SOT pre April patch). Right now I'm at 2 hours SOT at 75% battery left with 11 hours off charger. Most of my SOT is games(Clash Royale, Final Fantasy Pocket Edition) so it's not like my usage is lite. Though personally I feel as if the patch has gotten my battery life back to how it was at launch before the first patch. I'm thinking some of those carrier optimizations were for Project Fi as that's what I have.
Has anyone updated their 2 XL with the March release of TWRP since the April update hasn't been released? Any issues?
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Has anyone updated their 2 XL with the March release of TWRP since the April update hasn't been released? Any issues?
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Most twrp users did that the day the Google April update came out. As always, there are always going to be some users that have issues for whatever reason. However, from the majority of things I've read, most users, including myself, have had little to no issues with using twrp :good:

Are you happy with Android 10 on this phone?

I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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I like 10...No issues other then bluetooth connectivity occasionally acts up when connecting to my vehicle and running Pandora. I never cared for 9 and went back to 8.1 on my PH-1 until a stable version of 10 is available.
MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie. Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
Hello,
I have the device since ~ two months. I don't have any special complaint...
Battery is rather good for the moment. September version was quite buggy..!
I think the october release improved the experience a lot...
Actually stock October image + Root + EX Kernel.
Cheers...
Sébastien.
I only have two issues, and both aren't deal breakers, but they are concerning a bit. The first is random reboots like once a week. It doesn't matter what I'm doing as it just decides to reboot. The other is a bit more concerning as it happened twice since 10 was officially released. Again it doesn't matter what I'm doing, and the screen will go black, and become unresponsive. I have to force a manual reboot, and when it tried to boot the splash screen flashes several times, and then it boots into recovery with a message "Could not load Android OS. You can try again, or do a factory resest.". I selected "Try Again", and it booted normally, but I don't like risking that. Other than those two issue it's been super smooth, and very snappy. I have no complaints about performance at all when it's working normally.
Thank you for the responses. I'll try to wipe and reinstall to see if that helps.
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MArtyChubbs said:
I've been running Android 10 since release and I have to say it has been the poorest experience yet since the phone first came out. It is too aggressive closing background processes. I can't have a podcast play to completion without it just closing and even forgetting where I left off. The leg is horrible and my battery life has gotten worse since pie.
Am I alone or is anyone else having a similar experience?
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Glad you've mentioned the podcast problem. Same here. Either stops randomly and when going back in then it's back to the beginning. Are you using Google Podcast app?
Yes, that app has been the most frustrating. Although, iheart has given me the same problem. Nothing like listening to a 4 hour episode of Hardcore History and then losing where I was just for checking how bad I'm doing in fantasy football. Double kick in the nuts...
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I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
droidstyle said:
november update seems to have made some improvements with battery life.
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Battery life has been quite great for me.
Goku80 said:
Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
Rafsxd said:
I liked the Android 10. Don't have problem with apps closing or RAM issues. My problem is with the battery draining. Already done a factory reset after the OTA, but the battery life is getting worse every day. Have no social networks besides WhatsApp, using a few data because I live in small town that every place that I go have wi-fi. Using pie, have 36/38 hours with 4.5/5 hours os screen. With Android 10 now have 30 hours at best with 5/5.5 SOT. Battery is draining like 2% per hour, and it really bothers me. Also, full stock here. Probably will back to Pie soon.
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Have you tried Nov update?
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droidstyle said:
Agree...I am getting almost 2 days of use if I run the device down to 10%.
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Goku80 said:
Battery life has been quite great for me.
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Did you both get the phone at launch?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Did you both get the phone at launch?
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Not for me no. I got the phone back in June.
The battery life on P3XL is garbage. The P3XL is 2 months old. I have a 2 year P2XL with the exact same setup and the exact same apps. The battery life on P2XL is at least 50% better, even though it has been used for 2 years.
With identical usage, the P3XL drains battery twice as fast as P2XL. I've compared multiple scenarios with identical usage on both phones.
So no amount of Vodoo magic will fix the battery in P3XL. It's just terrible. My hypothesis is the battery temperature. I have an app that measures battery temperature and the P3XL seems to have a similar problem as P1XL - it runs WARM.
The P2XL, however runs much cooler in temperature So for ex, browsing Chrome and checking email, the P3XL might be at 35-37 Celsius, but the P2XL will be at less than 25 Celsius in exact same conditions.
Charging the P3XL also make it reach sometimes 40 Celsius, playing game over 45 Celsius. The P2XL almost never goes over 30 Celsius even on heavy load.
The battery in P3XL also drains very quickly with screen usage. I think the phone suffers from poor optimization, bad thermals, overheating and a battery hungry screen.
I'm always stressed out when being out without a charger for the P3XL. With the P2XL - it's never been a problem. I only charge it after 2 days.
to me, Android 10 has been the worst update on the Pixel 3 XL.
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Other than Google headed toward completely locking down recovery, I've been happy with it. Stock, rooted, EX kernel. Not experiencing any memory or lag issues at all.
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This is exactly how I feel. Sad Google decided to lock-down recovery, but it was just a matter of time. Wouldn't be surprised if this is just another step towards eventually removing us from obtaining root. (hope not)
But other than that, I love Android 10.. I love dark mode, bluetooth has been stable for me and stock rom with EX kernel has been great. But that's also been the combo I've had on my phone for years dating back to the Nexus 6P.
Just leaving this here
And I just want a customisable navbar.
Is it so hard Google?

Worst battery on oneui 2 beta

Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
upgradedfazeel said:
Hello XDA developers
I am very surprised to see that after installing one UI 2.0 the battery performance got the worst
I am getting 5 hours plus screen on time on one UI 2 beta while I got 7 hour plus screen on time on the one UI pie
The device care section is pretty disgusting it shows daily screen on time instead of the screen time from the last full charge
Pretty frustrated with this update
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Well what do you expect from a BETA update? You should've just waited for the stable release.
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It is call beta.
We almost need a sticky for everytime a beta is released.
Downloading a beta and then being surprised that it isnt running perfect means you probably shouldn't be on it.
It's like taking an experimental drug and being surprised at unforeseen side effects.
Edit: Then again it's not like anyone would read it.
I don't agree with you and I don't know how you measure it since is not really clear if the new battery usage graph changes something. In my personal daily usage I've been surprised some days, getting more than 6 hours of screen in 30 hours since plugged. Most was on wifi, radio signal influence a lot specially if it's weak.
Anyway I noticed some drains that are typical of samsung software, some days just for using spotify for 2 hours on the buds the phone would lose 30% while others 5% checking it some times
does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
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does the phone or android 10 have to learn battery saving first i know some phones do. and it may be your apps anything can happen. just tell us what you have done to set it up and maybe we can help
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Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
BigE said:
Yes, and battery life gets better after about the 3rd full charge so give it 4 days , and 3 over night charges , before it can be discussed. The latest beta is not bad , in terms of battery, and it is not better than Android 9. I am sure over time it will improve, and the stable release should be at least as good as pie.
Note from the moment the beta was flashed, statistics and predicted time to die where not given. Now that it does, it keeps saying that it will last less than a day (about 22-23 hours) and I have seen 1day+ prediction on pie , but over all it seem to be same SOT and same life of battery between charges, under same conditions and apps for my phone..
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Oh well, over 1 day today..
Battery life is really better with the new update. They've done it well this time

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