Question What (if any) are the differences (compatibility) between standard Wear OS and this Pixel Watch? - Google Pixel Watch

(Apologies if Mods think this would be better posted in the WearOS Forum please feel free to move it)
I know there are SOME differences between the Pixel Watch and other WearOs devices such as the Pixel being WearOS 3.x and that the Wear OS app most everyone else uses on their phone to deal with the watches is not compatible with the Pixel.
Just wondering if there is anything else I should know about the differences to avoid borking the unit.
(as they say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing! LOL)

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iOS Notifications on the 360

I know I am not the only one who wants iOS notifications on the Moto360. Notifications were made capable with jailbroken iPhones onto the Galaxy Gear via "CloudNotifier" so with reasonable effort, a port to Android Wear platform should absolutely be possible.
The Moto360 is an incredibly sexy piece of hardware. I would absolutely pay for a jailbreak tweak that enabled this functionality. I'm surprised that this hasn't happened yet for the first two AW watches.
Anybody know anything about development of this?
MakeBeatz said:
I know I am not the only one who wants iOS notifications on the Moto360. Notifications were made capable with jailbroken iPhones onto the Galaxy Gear via "CloudNotifier" so with reasonable effort, a port to Android Wear platform should absolutely be possible.
The Moto360 is an incredibly sexy piece of hardware. I would absolutely pay for a jailbreak tweak that enabled this functionality. I'm surprised that this hasn't happened yet for the first two AW watches.
Anybody know anything about development of this?
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yep!! Exactly!! Too bad that damn galaxy gear is hideous lol
Wish i was better acquainted on android wear to develop something like this, no doubt that there is demand
I would be interested too!
IFTTT
MakeBeatz said:
I know I am not the only one who wants iOS notifications on the Moto360. Notifications were made capable with jailbroken iPhones onto the Galaxy Gear via "CloudNotifier" so with reasonable effort, a port to Android Wear platform should absolutely be possible.
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Anybody know anything about development of this?
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Actually, you can already set some recipes involving iOS and Android Wear using IFTTT (dot com, dashboard, and then you explore the channels available)
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[Q] iOS and Moto 360

Hello all moto 360 users
I am sure this is somewhere on the forums but a normal search did not show it ( and I am happy to take links).
I want to know if there are any efforts to make an App that can act as a bridge for Moto360 on iOS.
Basic functionality would do (like just acting as a bridge for internet).
Side-loading should be an option too
Thanks!!
Why would Google want any integration with iOS? There are already more Android devices out there than iOS so its not like they need iPhone users buying their watches, especially as Apple have their own watch coming out. Even if such an app existed I don't think Apple would allow it onto the Apple Store.
I might be completely wrong, in which case I apologise, but I think you'll find this is a no go. Just get yourself an Android phone, you can get one cheap nowadays
MrGuarnere said:
Why would Google want any integration with iOS? There are already more Android devices out there than iOS so its not like they need iPhone users buying their watches, especially as Apple have their own watch coming out. Even if such an app existed I don't think Apple would allow it onto the Apple Store.
I might be completely wrong, in which case I apologise, but I think you'll find this is a no go. Just get yourself an Android phone, you can get one cheap nowadays
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noonas said:
Hello all moto 360 users
I am sure this is somewhere on the forums but a normal search did not show it ( and I am happy to take links).
I want to know if there are any efforts to make an App that can act as a bridge for Moto360 on iOS.
Basic functionality would do (like just acting as a bridge for internet).
Side-loading should be an option too
Thanks!!
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I don't think he was looking for an official app, just a work-around...
I'm pretty sure they got the Gear working to some extent with iPhone, but I haven't seen anything for Android Wear...
He's right, though - you should get an Android phone [emoji106]
Much more fun [emoji12]
Thanks for the reply.
With Microsoft going multi-platform, it would make sense that others may want to steal some market-share way too.
Again, looking for more of a bridge than a tight integration and with Google promoting openness and all, I thought it should be possible to get the Stack and drivers for wear and port it to iOS.
Anyways, I will keep looking.
Take inbox, google now, google maps, they are all over iOS.
Google is ready to make android wear compatible with ios. ..but apple wouldn't let that happen
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Simple solution. Throw away that iOS device and pick a real smartphone (i.e., HTC one M8 GPE)
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crownua6 said:
Simple solution. Throw away that iOS device and pick a real smartphone (i.e., HTC one M8 GPE)
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Or buy the best ...cheap moto G...not hard on wallet and also enjoy android lollipop soon on it
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Thanks for all the tips that I didn't ask for
I know I can get a moto, htc, nexus etc and it will work, this I hope is a no-brainer.
What I wanted to see if there are some skilled Android developers out there wanting to hack it to work (again side-load, or jailbreak).
I am well aware that I can just get a google phone to work with the google watches, similar to that Samsung did with with their first Gear and similar to what Apple will do with the watch.
I have some suspicion that the Apple Watch will be made to work with Google android one way or the other so there is little difference (if you consider side-loading).
Thanks.
Android devs are skilled. .no doubt. .but will not waste their time in something which apple will not approve and then file cases against them..
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Those of you suggesting to get an android phone are not thinking this through. There are millions of people who use iPhones, and the app marketplace is thriving. Why wouldn't iPhone users want to use Android Wear watches? Using an android tablet for configuration of the watch is inconvenient, but for many would not be a deal breaker. But don't expect iPhone users to carry around an extra phone just so their watch will display notifications.
Google and Microsoft are both spending significant resources to support iPhone users. Displaying iPhone notifications on Android Wear devices seems like a really useful thing to me.
These iOS users will just buy the iWatch !
aonanodad said:
Those of you suggesting to get an android phone are not thinking this through. There are millions of people who use iPhones, and the app marketplace is thriving. Why wouldn't iPhone users want to use Android Wear watches? Using an android tablet for configuration of the watch is inconvenient, but for many would not be a deal breaker. But don't expect iPhone users to carry around an extra phone just so their watch will display notifications.
Google and Microsoft are both spending significant resources to support iPhone users. Displaying iPhone notifications on Android Wear devices seems like a really useful thing to me.
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Then why do you think Android Wear doesn't support iOS?
You're right of course, it would be great for people with iphones who want more choice... I have an iPhone for work, so I wish I could pair both with the 360...
Its possible to pair two devices to the Moto 360.
I have two phones and I successfully connected my Moto 360 with Notifications on my iPhone.
You may checkout the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBI8ypRYe4Y
Wow, that looks amazing, how do I install the app?
Do you need Beta testers
/Jonas

GPS Navigators - Discussion Subforum?

Not sure if it's due to popularity or knowledge but there doesn't seem to be a lot, if any, about stand alone Android based GPS Navigators. Brands under the name Jusun and U-Route with Android 4.4.2 or lower as the OS version. I'm speaking of something resembling the devices that came out in the beginning from TomTom and Garmin and are still available but somewhat diminished in popularity.
I'd appreciate it if a Mod or other member(s) could point me to the right forum. I'd like to see if anyone else would be interested or has had progress in hacking and or developing with those particular type of devices.
TIA

OnePlus Vulnerabilities, Security Risks, Backdoors, Hacks ... Or not...

I really liked what I saw in the OnePlus 7 seriese. My HTC 10 has had a rough go of it and since 5G hasn't matured enough, I decided that another multi-year use 4G phone should replace it vs some cheaper hold over. I was bouncing between the 7 Pro and 7T over the Pixel 4 series for all the reasons that everyone else was - better hardware (for the most part) for a cheaper price.
Then I started reading about security concerns and the whole "typical Chinese company" types of posts. I understand that OnePlus is relatively new and made mistakes (like the one just recently...) but how much truth is there in malicious intent? I read discussion of the 3 series and later 5 series had some kind of hidden communication of data occurring outside of user consent. Even so, I would expect more exposure if there was some malicious activity discovered. Is the opinion of this community that the company is trustworthy? Or as trustworthy as any other mainstream player (Apple, HTC, Google, Samsung)? I am not worried about the typical data collection that all phones do for stat gathering or bug reports. I only really care about actual sensitive personal information, passwords for banking apps (your bank, Venmo, PayPal), etc being compromised. I get there are super paranoid people out there that fuss over any data sharing and that tends to get blown out of proportion or confused in threads. Some have suggested that the first thing one should do is install a custom ROM (and firmware!?) to eliminate potential hidden embedded malicious software in their Oxygen OS flavor of Android 10. Is that something that I should actually consider with this device? I have rooted and used custom ROM's on all my HTC phones since the Thunderbolt and planned to eventually play around with the device, but I never would have thought to do it because I didn't trust HTC.
Anyway, I fear I may have read too many uninformed and paranoid posts to make a meaningful decision so I figured I would poll this community for incite. If there was something real being hiding in the bowls of OnePlus 7 series, I am sure the devs would have picked up on it immediately.
Thanks!

Very laggy MTCD PX5

Hi all, I've got a PX5 (MX) in my Hyundai i30, unfortunately it's just very slow. Particularly swiping to type. I know my one only has 2gb of ram, but it's definitely much slower than android phones with similar specs.
Everything just takes long to load. For example Google assistant takes about 3 seconds from when I press the button to when I can talk to it.
I'm currently running a custom Magisc ROM with Android 10, but this problem has definitely also been around when I had stock ROMs installed and across android 8, 9 and 10.
I've done a search and there are some posts from a few years ago, but other than uninstalling all Google services, there weren't really any suggestions.
Given there aren't many people complaining about almost unusable slow units, I'm thinking maybe mine is slower than others.
Any suggestions?
Would love to hear others, and would love if somebody contradicts me, but my unit also became laggy with time. Most noticeable when interacting Google Maps (to the point of becoming annoying) mainly when I need to input a new address. Music works OK, and I do not really use assistant. I went back to Android 8 (Hal9K) but that did not help much.
I think is just the HW and the fact that apps (not only the OS) become more and more resource-hungry with newer versions. I'd challenge that you can find a phone with the same old specs of PX5, and I know Google has launched a web-based "Google Maps"(reduced) to solve complains in old phones.
But would love if somebody can contradict me and provide some hints for a deep-cleaning
In the meantime, praying that some china company will launch new devices on 2022 based on the latest RK with 4xA76 (yea, I know, too new...will taje some time)
maxiauer said:
Would love to hear others, and would love if somebody contradicts me, but my unit also became laggy with time. Most noticeable when interacting Google Maps (to the point of becoming annoying) mainly when I need to input a new address. Music works OK, and I do not really use assistant. I went back to Android 8 (Hal9K) but that did not help much.
I think is just the HW and the fact that apps (not only the OS) become more and more resource-hungry with newer versions. I'd challenge that you can find a phone with the same old specs of PX5, and I know Google has launched a web-based "Google Maps"(reduced) to solve complains in old phones.
But would love if somebody can contradict me and provide some hints for a deep-cleaning
In the meantime, praying that some china company will launch new devices on 2022 based on the latest RK with 4xA76 (yea, I know, too new...will taje some time)
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Thanks for your reply, glad I'm not the only one. Do you mind telling me the specs of your one? 2Gb of RAM as well?
Have you both observed px5 temps?
GnFgr said:
Have you both observed px5 temps?
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Between 42°C and 67°C when I had a look, but changing very rapidly.
Ambient temperature around 28°C, car cabin temperature maybe 24°C.
I know for a PC CPU this would be considered running very cool.
spludgey said:
Hi all, I've got a PX5 (MX) in my Hyundai i30, unfortunately it's just very slow. Particularly swiping to type. I know my one only has 2gb of ram, but it's definitely much slower than android phones with similar specs.
Everything just takes long to load. For example Google assistant takes about 3 seconds from when I press the button to when I can talk to it.
I'm currently running a custom Magisc ROM with Android 10, but this problem has definitely also been around when I had stock ROMs installed and across android 8, 9 and 10.
I've done a search and there are some posts from a few years ago, but other than uninstalling all Google services, there weren't really any suggestions.
Given there aren't many people complaining about almost unusable slow units, I'm thinking maybe mine is slower than others.
Any suggestions?
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Consider FYT uis7862 unit instead
marchnz said:
Consider FYT uis7862 unit instead
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I have been looking at them... but I understand they forcefully remove Google Assistant to use their own assistant, and that is a blocking point for me on two accounts: first I have most of my data on Google (for good or bad), second I am not sure I can trust a HW provider which blocks SW / wants to decide which SW I am allowed to use...
But thanks for the advice. I have heard they are good units and not everybody is aware of them. Other people looking at this thread could benefit by taking a look at them
Hi all, I'm pretty new to this scene and was hoping for some support and guidance from the community. And apologies if I'm hijacking the post but all other threads seemed dead with old replies. I have recently purchased a 2nd hand car which had a PX5 head unit. I will post the device details below, but I was hoping you could point me in the right direction to download a newer and compatible firmware/mcu for my unit. I'm used to flash custom rom/firmwares on android mobile phones so I do understand the process itself quite well, it's just the firmware/mcu compatibility with this device that I'm unsure of. Thank you in advance for the support.
ravipe said:
Hi all, I'm pretty new to this scene and was hoping for some support and guidance from the community. And apologies if I'm hijacking the post but all other threads seemed dead with old replies. I have recently purchased a 2nd hand car which had a PX5 head unit. I will post the device details below, but I was hoping you could point me in the right direction to download a newer and compatible firmware/mcu for my unit. I'm used to flash custom rom/firmwares on android mobile phones so I do understand the process itself quite well, it's just the firmware/mcu compatibility with this device that I'm unsure of. Thank you in advance for the support.
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I am not familiar with KGL Units, but according to this post they are compatible with Dasaita/HotAudio SW, and there is a thread on the MTCD General Questions subforum with links to the latest firmware for the Dasaita/HA MCU (although I haven't really seen any advantage of updating the firmware for several years... I think that since 2018 they have focused more on fixing bugs for MTC-E mainboards and newer ones rather than MTC-D). If you do not know if you have a MTC-D or a MTC-E, check if the board has an actual DSP-daughterboard or not (the "MTC-E" version that is reported on settings indicates that you have a MTC-D/MTC-E SW release and not that your board is really MTC-E)
As for Android itself, I wouldn't recommend to update it to Android 9. I have noticed SOME responsiveness improvement with Hal9K mod in Android 10, but you might loose the Bluetooth as Android 10 is not compatible with some old chipsets (check on the discussion about that in HW-Development, and the proposed solution)

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