Question LTE Band 20 on K40S? - Xiaomi Poco F4 (Munch) / Redmi K40S

I know this sort of question pops up from time to time, from device to device.
I notice that a Poco F4 is considerable more expensive for me to get over a K40S and this would be perfect. However I notice the K40S doesn't support LTE band 20 out of the box.
I wondered if there was a way to make this happen? As i'm reasonably sure the chipset etc can do it?
I'd be willing to play around using fun grungy tools if it's posslble.
Probably not but I have to scratch my curiousity.
Thankyou!

mhisani said:
I know this sort of question pops up from time to time, from device to device.
I notice that a Poco F4 is considerable more expensive for me to get over a K40S and this would be perfect. However I notice the K40S doesn't support LTE band 20 out of the box.
I wondered if there was a way to make this happen? As i'm reasonably sure the chipset etc can do it?
I'd be willing to play around using fun grungy tools if it's posslble.
Probably not but I have to scratch my curiousity.
Thankyou!
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The difference is in Hardware not Software, Xiaomi is not crazy.

Actually that's not always the case and I have enabled bands on other devices with international variants using qualcomm tools etc. I'm aware of the material differences.

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pixel camera and unlocking bands

Heya guys, I was wondering when the pixel camera will be ported to the mi5s? Can someone tell me what we will need first and the likelihood of it happening out of 10? also what is the chance of unlocking the mi5s's bands if/when the mi5's bands are unlocked out of 10? I'm still wondering if I should purchase this phone or wait for the mi6. The main reason for wanting this phone is the pixels camera and the cheap price tag which i don't think the mi6 will beat. but I would also like to have a device that I could develop on, putting new roms and whatnot. SOOoooo what do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance
Dont buy it! Dont buy it! Dont buy it!
Ok. I'm joking, but its hopeless to wait for Mi 5s to support band 20, but the rest might already work.
I'm also waiting for pixel camera, currently. Don't expect too much, I never knew I can only have lowest iso at 100! Google pixel definitely can have 50 I think. I was naive and thought everything would be solved by software updating, but currently no 3rd party app can make iso lower than 50. Since it's not open sourced yet, I doubt CM or AOSP would have iso 50, even they have, I'm concerned that they won't have as good quality. The preview of Mi 5s in manual mode never changes while changing exposing time (shutter speed). This never happened in my previous phones, and I was wondering why there was only one guy mentioned this (and whenever I brought this up, nobody replied)
forgivemypoorEN said:
Dont buy it! Dont buy it! Dont buy it!
Ok. I'm joking, but its hopeless to wait for Mi 5s to support band 20, but the rest might already work.
I'm also waiting for pixel camera, currently. Don't expect too much, I never knew I can only have lowest iso at 100! Google pixel definitely can have 50 I think. I was naive and thought everything would be solved by software updating, but currently no 3rd party app can make iso lower than 50. Since it's not open sourced yet, I doubt CM or AOSP would have iso 50, even they have, I'm concerned that they won't have as good quality. The preview of Mi 5s in manual mode never changes while changing exposing time (shutter speed). This never happened in my previous phones, and I was wondering why there was only one guy mentioned this (and whenever I brought this up, nobody replied)
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So the camera can't be fully ported? İt's got the exact same hardware though so I see no reason for it not to be fully ported. Can someone else shed some light on this?
Only in Cam2 API can you see a live preview, you can use snap cam or FreeDcam for that. Also using manual cam 1 api on FreeDcam you can achieve 0 ISO, using long exposure. It would be nice to have HDR+ but what we got is just as good when you become used to using it.
bozy09 said:
So the camera can't be fully ported? İt's got the exact same hardware though so I see no reason for it not to be fully ported. Can someone else shed some light on this?
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I had the same idea when I got this phone, but nothing magic happened. Maybe in the future. There are two strange things, firstly Google camera hdr+ hasn't been port to any non Nexus device, by the way MI5s simply fc on 3.x versions,and the working version only has basic functions. Secondly, no camera can lower iso to below 100, so there's definitely difference between pixel and mi 5s I don't know if this can be fixed by replacing libs. The eis should also be different, at least you need system driver and service to use gryo during taking photos
bozy09 said:
Heya guys, I was wondering when the pixel camera will be ported to the mi5s? Can someone tell me what we will need first and the likelihood of it happening out of 10? also what is the chance of unlocking the mi5s's bands if/when the mi5's bands are unlocked out of 10? I'm still wondering if I should purchase this phone or wait for the mi6. The main reason for wanting this phone is the pixels camera and the cheap price tag which i don't think the mi6 will beat. but I would also like to have a device that I could develop on, putting new roms and whatnot. SOOoooo what do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance
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Regarding the pixel camera on Mi5S . This is just wishful thinking, it will never happen.
That's a real bummer, I guess I won't buy it :/ I appreciate your comments so thanks

Why Redmi 5 Plus is my last Xiaomi phone ever ?

After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough.
Once i had Redmi 3S, Redmi 4X, then Redmi 5 Plus. I don't think i will buy a new one and here's why.
1) Well, they had great specs for their price, but they compromise durability by using cheap, weak and low-series aluminum to make their phones. That's why Mi5 and Redmi Note 3 failed Jerry's durability test. Basically, these are one drop phones. Europe is used to durable phones like Nokia, LG or Sony.
2) Software. My Redmi 3s had MIUI 7 out of the box, so i disabled some google poop i don't use and then updated to MIUI 8, unexpectedly bricking my phone for next 3 days until i was allowed to unlocked the bootloader, which was necessary to re-flash the device. MIUI 8 was great, had alot of features and MIUI 9 made things faster, but... My annoyance level is similar to dealing with Meizu phones. Some themes make unwanted changes to my home screen layout. Messenger notifications are quiet, just silent pop sound instead of normal messenger sound when screen is locked and off. On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.
JakeCherry97 said:
2) On Redmi 5 Plus i had YouTube issue, where video as well as whole UI was freezing sometimes. This was ridiculous.
3) Ads ! Ads everywhere ! They started pop up in system apps such as Music, Videos , Themes and Settings after MIUI 9 update. Xiaomi, are you serious ? That is definitely unacceptable.
4) After MIUI 9.5 update themes app disappeard from my phone. To restore it, i had to change region to United States.
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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I don't have any problem with YouTube
Also not have those ads on system apps. Maybe it's something from 3rd party app...
About themes app is something about new laws on European Union. Not have to keep region changed. Change to download and apply theme and then change it back to your country.
Actually, the Redmi 5 plus passed the bend test. Also I don't see any ads on mine, maybe you have the china version?
I do not see any of those issues as well. Also, if you have a problem with MIUI, you can always count on the great community and install an AOSP rom. It is your choice how you use your phone.
JakeCherry97 said:
After having 3 Redmi phones i think i finally have enough ....
I switched back to Windows Phone.
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The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
Miui is cool. I have R5+ with xiaomi.eu rom, rooted with adaway app, and it's without any of these things.
Just read dude, it's not complicated to setup phone.
Other roms are also good choice, why not.
Only semi valid point is one, it's a freaking $ 150 dollars phone, so come on...
2. It's your fault for not learning to use settings properly, none of these problems are problems per se. Just you not getting used to your phone.
3. There are like 2apps that put ads on the system apps, and totally removable, even from the settings
4. Really? You just posted the solution to that problem.
lmao so instead of embracing the value Xiaomi devices and understand compromises you move over to an officially dead phone OS?
Redmi Note 5 is my first Xiaomi phone, and i can say that my next phone will 100% be Xiaomi again, why ? Because i had a Sony phone which i dropped from half a meter and the whole screen came out, couldn't be rooted and nobody bothered to make good roms for it. My note 5 has been dropped 3-4 times on hard cement, just the plastic part got scuffed. I haven't seen an AD during my use with stock MIUI , haven't had any freezes and i could give a rats booty about the theme app.
And now even we have got SOC 710 at 18000 price mi8se :fingers-crossed: :silly: which is seriously awsome :*)
You can deactivate the ads of the system in his settings on apps and system. Look tutorials in Xiaomi officcial forums.
DarthJabba9 said:
The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?
aurocha said:
A good build of LineageOS would be great. What do you recommend?
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At the moment, Liquid Remix or crDroid. When Validus settles down on Vince, and SlimROM moves to Oreo, then my eventual preferences would be (1) SlimROM, (2) Validus.
Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing
fede01_8 said:
Nothing serious then? OP is just *****ing
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Vince is perfectly okay for the price. The problems he is experiencing are mainly with miui. Yes, the components are cheap - but you get what you paid for. For me, it is a brilliant phone. And so is mido. You just need to adjust your expectations. There is no point in having a champagne taste on a coca cola budget.
DarthJabba9 said:
The first thing to do with a Xiaomi device is to replace miui with a more sensible ROM.
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thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.
Talwinder8872 said:
thats what i do, always
before buying a phone instead checking its review i just come on xda and see how good is development. and thats enough for me to make a decision.
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Yes, that is the way to do it.
Redmi Note 3SD, Redmi Note 4X, and now Redmi 5 Plus. Just awesome devices for the price! No problem whatsoever!
I think one of the main reasons I bought a xiaomi phone was to get a very decently specced phone at budget prices, unlock the bootloader of a xiaomi phone > install a custom rom > get a phone that's miles better than the competition at the same price range
DarthJabba9 said:
Yes, that is the way to do it.
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Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.
Mordar said:
Also this, I also check if the phone has a snapdragon processor which increases the chances of getting more development done in the form of custom roms.
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Yep. You don't want to go with the "other" SoC that Xiaomi often uses. I had about 5 different Xiaomi phones with that SoC, and their custom ROM support sucks big time (mainly due to lack of kernel sources).

UK Asus rog 2

Hi anyone from uk purchased a rog 2 chinese phone and what they think is it worth over a uk version
pro4ever said:
Hi anyone from uk purchased a rog 2 chinese phone and what they think is it worth over a uk version
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Yep,, I bought one from giztop. No problems at all but, I'm on ee. Not sure what network ur on but the 128gb version doesn't have band 20, so if ur maybe o2, that could be an issue.. No problems at all with the phone, loving it. Had WW Rom installed, but still needed to change fingerprint to WW to be able to update
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Yep,, I bought one from giztop. No problems at all but, I'm on ee. Not sure what network ur on but the 128gb version doesn't have band 20, so if ur maybe o2, that could be an issue.. No problems at all with the phone, loving it. Had WW Rom installed, but still needed to change fingerprint to WW to be able to update
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Thanks for reply I'm on Vodafone. Only thing is it's on a Chinese rom and will have to install global rom.
Also have you had any screen issues? Red tint when brightness lowered
reg66 said:
Yep,, I bought one from giztop. No problems at all but, I'm on ee. Not sure what network ur on but the 128gb version doesn't have band 20, so if ur maybe o2, that could be an issue.. No problems at all with the phone, loving it. Had WW Rom installed, but still needed to change fingerprint to WW to be able to update
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I have 1906 Rom i think, how can change fingerprint to WW to be able to update ?
tnx very much for your help
pro4ever said:
Thanks for reply I'm on Vodafone. Only thing is it's on a Chinese rom and will have to install global rom.
Also have you had any screen issues? Red tint when brightness lowered
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Yes, there is red tint, but it doesn't bother me so much now. It did at first.
With giztop you choose for them to install WW Rom, but you still need to change fingerprint to WW to update to latest...
reg66 said:
Yes, there is red tint, but it doesn't bother me so much now. It did at first.
With giztop you choose for them to install WW Rom, but you still need to change fingerprint to WW to update to latest...
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i am using 7 pro at moment how does it compare? and also hows the cameras?
pro4ever said:
i am using 7 pro at moment how does it compare? and also hows the cameras?
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Don't have that phone to compare to, so can't comment bud.
I'm not really fussy about pics, as I just need it for work pics. I'm seeing mixed reports tho regarding images.
reg66 said:
Don't give that phone to compare to, so can't comment bud.
I'm not really fussy about pics, as I just needed it for work. I'm seeing mixed reports tho.
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any help about my question ?
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any help about my question ?
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Have edited previous post, have another read, but in short, no, sorry. I have not compared pics with other devices, maybe someone else can chip in?
pro4ever said:
i am using 7 pro at moment how does it compare? and also hows the cameras?
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I have both 7 pro and rog2 (tencent, ww rom).
Oneplus 7 pro pros :
- better screen quality, the colors are more vibrant, but lower max brightness than ROG2.
- software is better, updates in a timely manner, it's on Android10 already and in general they seem to offer much better support than Asus (remember, ROG1 is still on Android8 with no plans for any updates)
- smaller, lighter
- telephoto camera, better overall photo quality in my opinion
ROG2 pros:
- 120Hz screen offers a super smooth experience
- THAT battery
- auto brightness works
- 3.5mm headphone jack with good audio quality, also pretty good amplification
- flat screen
- notification led
- stereo speakers done right
- ultra wide lens is wider than on 7 pro (or any phone I know) at 11mm, although the quality is so-so.
Hope this helps...
albireox said:
I have both 7 pro and rog2 (tencent, ww rom).
Oneplus 7 pro pros :
- better screen quality, the colors are more vibrant, but lower max brightness than ROG2.
- software is better, updates in a timely manner, it's on Android10 already and in general they seem to offer much better support than Asus (remember, ROG1 is still on Android8 with no plans for any updates)
- smaller, lighter
- telephoto camera, better overall photo quality in my opinion
ROG2 pros:
- 120Hz screen offers a super smooth experience
- THAT battery
- auto brightness works
- 3.5mm headphone jack with good audio quality, also pretty good amplification
- flat screen
- notification led
- stereo speakers done right
- ultra wide lens is wider than on 7 pro (or any phone I know) at 11mm, although the quality is so-so.
Hope this helps...
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7pro or rog 2.. Out both if you had to choose 1
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7pro or rog 2.. Out both if you had to choose 1
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I choose rog 2 but mostly out of curiosity. If you really care about software updates, custom roms and stuff, 7 pro is a much better choice.
albireox said:
I choose rog 2 but mostly out of curiosity. If you really care about software updates, custom roms and stuff, 7 pro is a much better choice.
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cam any better with gcam ?
pro4ever said:
cam any better with gcam ?
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Sure it can, but gcam cannot substitute OIS that rog2 lacks on both lens for example. Saying that, I admit although I installed and took a couple of photos with gcam, I'm still far from having any conclusion.
Again, the 7 pro is not a camera phone marvel, but I find it to be a little better/flexible than the rog2 in the camera department (having OIS and telephoto lens also helps). Also, OnePlus made some real steps in making the camera better via software updates since 7 pro launched. Asus on the other hand, is not known for being eager to fix things or keeping the phone up-to-date in the software department and that's what worries me most regarding rog2.
I've just got a Tencent version delivered now in the UK for me, I'm on virgin mobile (virtual network on EE) and I cannot get 4G signal, only HSPA+. My Oneplus5 gets 4G+ here and about 45mbit speeds.
My Asus ROG2 came already with WW firmware, but I'm not sure if it is just the band 20 missing that is the issue. I was expecting at least a tiny bit of 4G, but so far I've got no 4G signal at all.
Mephisto_POA said:
I've just got a Tencent version delivered now in the UK for me, I'm on virgin mobile (virtual network on EE) and I cannot get 4G signal, only HSPA+. My Oneplus5 gets 4G+ here and about 45mbit speeds.
My Asus ROG2 came already with WW firmware, but I'm not sure if it is just the band 20 missing that is the issue. I was expecting at least a tiny bit of 4G, but so far I've got no 4G signal at all.
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In on ee too, hmm, I get 4g at least some of the time (or even most).
Is it set right in Settings under network, mobile network,, preferred network type. Mine is 2g, 3g and 4g
reg66 said:
In on ee too, hmm, I get 4g at least some of the time (or even most).
Is it set right in Settings under network, mobile network,, preferred network type. Mine is 2g, 3g and 4g
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I'm not sure if my phone was "warming up" but it managed to get 4G a bit later even though it was on my desk exactly at the same position when it was on HSPA for a while. I'm getting 4G+ at speed test here that was around 30-40mbits on my oneplus 5 went to 60mbit on the asus rog 2.
I'll take it out tomorrow on the road to see how it goes
I believe this 4g reception issue is only valid with the 128GB version right? 512GB version with 12GB ram should have all the 4G bands in the UK?
henihazbay said:
I believe this 4g reception issue is only valid with the 128GB version right? 512GB version with 12GB ram should have all the 4G bands in the UK?
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Yes, I believe the that one has all bands
the only band missing in the UK is band 20, 800-900mhz ish.
Not sure if the 12gb chinese version has the band 20, it is still for chinese market I guess.

Advice on buying red magic 5

Hello
My phone is oneplus 7t pro, im looking forward to get redmagic, but i have some questions
-How is the phone overall for everyday use (main use not for gaming mainly)?
-should i get 5g or 5s?, i learned that they removed the L shaped cable + the 55w adapter from the 5s
-how is the phone dev support, i dont need much actually as like my op7tp stock rom rooted with my modifications
Do u advice getting this phone or stay with the op7tp
Thank u
Nightf0x_007 said:
Hello
My phone is oneplus 7t pro, im looking forward to get redmagic, but i have some questions
-How is the phone overall for everyday use (main use not for gaming mainly)?
-should i get 5g or 5s?, i learned that they removed the L shaped cable + the 55w adapter from the 5s
-how is the phone dev support, i dont need much actually as like my op7tp stock rom rooted with my modifications
Do u advice getting this phone or stay with the op7tp
Thank u
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Op7t is a good phone already. Personally if i had that phone i'd keep it as is, if you jist plan to use it for phone, browsing, youtube, etc you're not gaining anything.
But benefits of the phone are.
- UFS 3.1
- more ram
- better benchmarks if thats your thing
- excellent gaming
-crazy long range wifi
- 144hz refresh rate ( again if thats your thing) i use 60 to 90hz
- has a fricken cooling fan built in.
The rom is surprisingly stable and seems to work well.
For android 10 there is a bootloader bypass, that allows you to root and install custom recovery without unlocking your bootloader ( unlocking bootloader corrupts your fingerprint reader)
There is already a official beta for android 11, it has a few battery bugs but should be fixed soon, with a global release a few weeks after china official release.
Now not so much.
- not water proof at all. ( There is literally two huge holes on either side for the fan) water = paperweight
- camera post processing could be better
-limited 5G supported bands ( be mindful the 5g does not work great everywhere, and it only has a few bands to support so check eith your current and local Service providors for 5g signal info.
Overall its a great phone. Worth it if you not fussed over 5g support, and the fact its not IP rated at all.
Replacing an already decent phone thsts up to you i replaced a 6 year old phone for it so it was worth it to me.
Patrick Morgan said:
Op7t is a good phone already. Personally if i had that phone i'd keep it as is, if you jist plan to use it for phone, browsing, youtube, etc you're not gaining anything.
But benefits of the phone are.
- UFS 3.1
- more ram
- better benchmarks if thats your thing
- excellent gaming
-crazy long range wifi
- 144hz refresh rate ( again if thats your thing) i use 60 to 90hz
- has a fricken cooling fan built in.
The rom is surprisingly stable and seems to work well.
For android 10 there is a bootloader bypass, that allows you to root and install custom recovery without unlocking your bootloader ( unlocking bootloader corrupts your fingerprint reader)
There is already a official beta for android 11, it has a few battery bugs but should be fixed soon, with a global release a few weeks after china official release.
Now not so much.
- not water proof at all. ( There is literally two huge holes on either side for the fan) water = paperweight
- camera post processing could be better
-limited 5G supported bands ( be mindful the 5g does not work great everywhere, and it only has a few bands to support so check eith your current and local Service providors for 5g signal info.
Overall its a great phone. Worth it if you not fussed over 5g support, and the fact its not IP rated at all.
Replacing an already decent phone thsts up to you i replaced a 6 year old phone for it so it was worth it to me.
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My main reason behind the idea of changing is because that my op7tp battery degraded also much its now 85% battery health, and there is no any op support here in the country where i stay in so thats why im thinking about a change
If you want a game solely for gaming features, then it is a great phone. I wouldn’t use it for daily use as my primary phone though.
The software is not great for everyday use. I get regular restarts and cant share screen captures, laggy when swapping between open apps after using for a while. Call quality is not great, everyone has trouble hearing me no matter what app I use for making the calls, including video calls. I wouldnt say the high refresh screen is any better than my huawei mate 20pro or note 9.
I wont use mine anymore, it was a waste of money as I didnt buy it for gaming. Because of the software issues i wouldn't even give it to my kids.

Question OnePlus 11 vs Motorola x40

I've just received my global op11 a few days ago and I'd like to share my experience after also having a Motorola x40 CN version for a couple of weeks.
I paid 530£ for the Motorola but honestly it's so much better than OnePlus. Better software, more features, Wireless charging, ip68, better speakers(not louder but more bass) and telephoto camera seems better. Unfortunately because it was a Chinese variant, that means no possibility to lock BL on global Rom like OnePlus and no support, warranty etc. Limited Google services. It also seems to warm up a bit more than Motorola
Now for the OnePlus 11.
I pre-ordered and received a 100£ discount and a speaker which I'm planning to sell for 150£ și technically I'm only paying 550£ for the phone itself.
What's better about the OnePlus is the main camera and battery and also much better support because it's a more popular device and I get EU warranty and proper Google services.
Conclusion is:
If the Motorola launches x40 globally and it's in the same price range or has discounts or offers equivalent I would 10000% go for Motorola. It's a much much better phone
XDRdaniel said:
I've just received my global op11 a few days ago and I'd like to share my experience after also having a Motorola x40 CN version for a couple of weeks.
I paid 530£ for the Motorola but honestly it's so much better than OnePlus. Better software, more features, Wireless charging, ip68, better speakers(not louder but more bass) and telephoto camera seems better. Unfortunately because it was a Chinese variant, that means no possibility to lock BL on global Rom like OnePlus and no support, warranty etc. Limited Google services. It also seems to warm up a bit more than Motorola
Now for the OnePlus 11.
I pre-ordered and received a 100£ discount and a speaker which I'm planning to sell for 150£ și technically I'm only paying 550£ for the phone itself.
What's better about the OnePlus is the main camera and battery and also much better support because it's a more popular device and I get EU warranty and proper Google services.
Conclusion is:
If the Motorola launches x40 globally and it's in the same price range or has discounts or offers equivalent I would 10000% go for Motorola. It's a much much better phone
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Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
jody2k said:
Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
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You can't relock bootloader on Global, it'll bricked like Xiaomi chinese phone.
I live in China and I also used moto x40 for a week (then returned it), and now I've used OnePlus 11 for over a month.
There are obviously some reasons that I can't accept with moto x40:
- The screen is easily getting touched by mistakes, especially on the edge of the screen. Sometimes even if I just hold the phone in my hand and do not move my fingers at all, the phone still thinks I'm touching the screen.
- Sometimes the system is stuck while scrolling in a list view, especially in the "global" apps (e.g. twitter, youtube).
Overall the hardware of x40 is good, but the software is less good than I expect.
OnePlus 11 has a higher price, (¥4000 for x40 and ¥4400 for OP 11, both are 256GB models), but it's reasonable because OP 11 has 16 GB RAM (x40 has 12GB).
OP 11 also has a better camera and a longer battery life.
The only downside for OP 11 is the type-c port is running at USB 2.0, which limits it to 480 Mbit/s. x40 has a full-featured USB 3.2 port, including video outputs.
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Hmm okay so that means you cant get official updates anymore if you unlock BL? Need to flash them manually? That's a bit dissapounting indeed but not impossible to do .
Are we sure phone will get bricked on the x40 if we try relock BL? Is this a common issue?
hronro said:
I live in China and I also used moto x40 for a week (then returned it), and now I've used OnePlus 11 for over a month.
There are obviously some reasons that I can't accept with moto x40:
- The screen is easily getting touched by mistakes, especially on the edge of the screen. Sometimes even if I just hold the phone in my hand and do not move my fingers at all, the phone still thinks I'm touching the screen.
- Sometimes the system is stuck while scrolling in a list view, especially in the "global" apps (e.g. twitter, youtube).
Overall the hardware of x40 is good, but the software is less good than I expect.
OnePlus 11 has a higher price, (¥4000 for x40 and ¥4400 for OP 11, both are 256GB models), but it's reasonable because OP 11 has 16 GB RAM (x40 has 12GB).
OP 11 also has a better camera and a longer battery life.
The only downside for OP 11 is the type-c port is running at USB 2.0, which limits it to 480 Mbit/s. x40 has a full-featured USB 3.2 port, including video outputs.
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Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
jody2k said:
Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
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I barely check the SOT...
Basically, I charge it every day and a half. The charging speed is amazing, it only took like 20 minutes for a full charge.
jody2k said:
Interesting thanks for your small review about the moto X40, I also ordered one from china.
Do you think we could just flash the EU rom from the edge 40 when it comes out? As both phones are identical.
I just wonder also what you mean with no possibility to lock BL on global Rom? Does it mean we can't unlock the bootloader of the Moto X40?
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Yea you can flash global Rom . There's already sellers on AliExpress shipping it with global Rom.
I mean that once you flash global Rom you can't lock the bootloader. You can only lock BL on official Rom.
You can easily unlock BL and flash ROMs but you can't lock back unless you're back on original Rom
jody2k said:
Hmm okay so that means you cant get official updates anymore if you unlock BL? Need to flash them manually? That's a bit dissapounting indeed but not impossible to do .
Are we sure phone will get bricked on the x40 if we try relock BL? Is this a common issue?
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100% sure you'll get bootloop if you relock on different Rom. And no, even if you buy from AliExpress a Chinese version with global Rom, you won't get OTA
jody2k said:
Thanks for your opinion, what was your SOT with the x40? I'm having a note 20 ultra and my SOT is pretty bad on this phone I got only around 4hours and mostly I need to charge it second time during the end of the day. Was hoping the moto x40 would have better battery
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Not amazing but not bad either considering the capacity of the battery. I was happy with the sot
Alright perfect thanks for the info guys !
Let's hope we'll get a XDA forum section soon for the moto X40 / edge 40
jody2k said:
Alright perfect thanks for the info guys !
Let's hope we'll get a XDA forum section soon for the moto X40 / edge 40
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There's a section on 4pda
I got my eye on x40 long time, before comming out..
I hope they are not stupid and lounch Global version.
But, i read the Motorola is Bad (to be elegant.) to updates and fixing bugs.
I see many people selling they Edge 30 Ultra., which is a very well equipped (hardware) phone. I am 10.000 % that is the reason.
One thing you are missing is that OnePlus now offers good software updates, whereas with Motorola you will be lucky to get quarterly updates that are buggy. OnePlus 11 also has far superior battery life and better rear cameras, with a more active development community.

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