This is my first post on XDA. Recently, I got a POCO F3. Today, I tried various combinations of mods and custom firmwares and when I check in Franco Kernel Manager, my CPU min and max frequencies are chaging bby themselves. This is just with root and custom recovery installed. I thought a custom kernel may fix this, but it didn't (I tried Immensity-X, WildAngel Performance and NoGravity). As well as that, I'm finding that the GPU cannot handle an overclock or else the min and max frequencies will also fluctuate by themselves. The overclock I tried was to 682 MHz (my F3 isn't a silicon lottery winner). Does anyone have any idea as to what the issue might be?
you try flash last build NoGravity Kernel v1.0.1 + NGK App 6.1.1 (Hotfix) ?
CRNO said:
you try flash last build NoGravity Kernel v1.0.1 + NGK App 6.1.1 (Hotfix) ?
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I'll try it, thx
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This is my first post on XDA. Recently, I got a POCO F3. Today, I tried various combinations of mods and custom firmwares and when I check in Franco Kernel Manager, my CPU min and max frequencies are chaging bby themselves. This is just with root and custom recovery installed. I thought a custom kernel may fix this, but it didn't (I tried Immensity-X, WildAngel Performance and NoGravity). As well as that, I'm finding that the GPU cannot handle an overclock or else the min and max frequencies will also fluctuate by themselves. The overclock I tried was to 682 MHz (my F3 isn't a silicon lottery winner). Does anyone have any idea as to what the issue might be?
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Xiaomi does some crazy ass throttlings that limits cpu freq to 2.7k default and keeps changing with temperature 37*c, 39*c, 41*c and so on
same with gpu, gpu is not limited but it starts throttling at higher temperatures too but the problem with gpu throttling is that it doesnt revert back to highest when the temperature cools down, you'll have to revert it manually.
only way to fix this is if you edit the thermals yourself or use dynamic profile or flash thermal no junk
3zozHashim said:
Xiaomi does some crazy ass throttlings that limits cpu freq to 2.7k default and keeps changing with temperature 37*c, 39*c, 41*c and so on
same with gpu, gpu is not limited but it starts throttling at higher temperatures too but the problem with gpu throttling is that it doesnt revert back to highest when the temperature cools down, you'll have to revert it manually.
only way to fix this is if you edit the thermals yourself or use dynamic profile or flash thermal no junk
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You can fix the freq. of both CPU and GPU to be max, and disable the mi_thermald. Try "extras/jitter-reducer.sh" in USB_SampleRate_Changer which has been developed for hi-fi audio use. But this can disable almost possible battery saving features, e.g., GPU power level, thermal throttling, doze, wireless connectivity optimization, etc., to avoid jitter distortion on all digital audio outputs.
Note: this is tested only on the STOCK kernel.
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Hey guys,
i got a problem adjusting the cpu frequencies on my Galaxy S4 mini GT9195.
For example, i change it to 162mhz minimum and 1026mhz maximum and the smartassV2 govenor. Then that changes ramdomly to some weird frequencies automaticly and out of a sudden. Like 1458mhz minimum and maximum.
I use the cyanogenmod11 M7 rom and the f4ktion 1.5.0 Kernel (the cyanogen kernel does the same btw)
As App for adjusting i use the Kernel Tweaker, but even if i do it in the System settings its doing the same...
I did some undervolting, this stays as i set it.
I hope you guys can help me its annoying to check it every houre and see that it changed again and drains my battery
Sebastian
Devices using a modern qualcomm cpu, relies on two userspace daemons (mpdecision and thermald) to manage frequency and thermal throttling. So mpdecision takes care of the frequencies and cpu hot-plugging (when to engage additional cores or not), and thermald lowers the frequency if the temperature gets too high, in order to protect the cpu from overheating. This is not compatible with the frequency settings in CM or any third party app with similar functionality, as they will always override whatever you set there.
arco68 said:
Devices using a modern qualcomm cpu, relies on two userspace daemons (mpdecision and thermald) to manage frequency and thermal throttling. So mpdecision takes care of the frequencies and cpu hot-plugging (when to engage additional cores or not), and thermald lowers the frequency if the temperature gets too high, in order to protect the cpu from overheating. This is not compatible with the frequency settings in CM or any third party app with similar functionality, as they will always override whatever you set there.
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I see.. Thanks for the answer mate, so there's no way to save battery like this? It just seems sometimes that it's stuck at some frequencies...
Well, you could make a custom boot image that disables those daemons, but it could cause more harm than good.
Sebastianm1989 said:
Hey guys,
i got a problem adjusting the cpu frequencies on my Galaxy S4 mini GT9195.
For example, i change it to 162mhz minimum and 1026mhz maximum and the smartassV2 govenor. Then that changes ramdomly to some weird frequencies automaticly and out of a sudden. Like 1458mhz minimum and maximum.
I use the cyanogenmod11 M7 rom and the f4ktion 1.5.0 Kernel (the cyanogen kernel does the same btw)
As App for adjusting i use the Kernel Tweaker, but even if i do it in the System settings its doing the same...
I did some undervolting, this stays as i set it.
I hope you guys can help me its annoying to check it every houre and see that it changed again and drains my battery
Sebastian
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f4ktion kernel 1.5.0 is not designed for M7. For M7 use 1.4.5.
I'm right now with nightly 0703, kernel 1.5.0, mpdecision disable and MSM Hotplug enable (performance control). With this settings that bug disapeared. 162 mhz - 1728 mhz; smartassh3; ROW.
In M7, and 1.4.5 kernel, the only governor that works with 162 mhz and don't change to 1458 mhz is the Ondemand.
Why doesn't the max cpu remain constant in kernel audiutor??
I have cm 13 and I have tried flashing the Nebula kernel, used their modded kernel audiutor app and max frequency doesn't stick, after I put it at 2457 MHz and try out a benchmark I would get sh**ty scores and go back to Kernel Audiutor app to find out that my new max frequency was 800 MHz (or another, max frequency was totally random) , why??? I tried flashing the 777 Kernel (maybe the kernel was the issue?) and got the same result! Cpu frequency changes after a while, am I doing something wrong? I have disabled hotplug cpu and the thermal to see if it was the case, didnt work... Any solution?
Settings > Battery > Set mode to performance - you can set this in kernel audiutor i believe (sorry my spelling is crap) but i'm not sure what section it's in.
Still doesn't work
I just tried your suggestion after a little bit of googling and finding this thread. What else could I try? I see my CPU change instantly after applying the changes ..... My phone is really lagging so that's why I need to change this stupid setting.
I am getting overheating issues in redmi 1s using beast kernel and causing lag.please help. I am on miui 7 7.1.1
hatim.yunus said:
I am getting overheating issues in redmi 1s using beast kernel and causing lag.please help. I am on miui 7 7.1.1
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I don't use miui nor beast but lets try.
Install kernel adiutor from playstore.
If you already intstall it. Open it and goto cpu section.
Set max frequency to 1190000.
Goto cpu hotplug section set to use msm or intelliplug.
Goto GPU section set max frequency to 320.
Beast make cpu throttling bit cause heating, just try another kernel that not throttling
In KA app go to thermal section and enable VDD restriction.It's main function is to throttle the cpu frequency in case of heating or rising temperature to avoid heating and decreasing temperature and thus acts as a cooling method ..!
-Sourav_8434
Is there an oreo-based kernel to perform cpu underclocking? Or maybe a way to be able to do the underclock on android 8? Because most of them are only on android nougat, but on oreo no one has developed anything yet ...
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Is there an oreo-based kernel to perform cpu underclocking? Or maybe a way to be able to do the underclock on android 8? Because most of them are only on android nougat, but on oreo no one has developed anything yet ...
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There is an app I used on my old phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grarak.kerneladiutor
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AntoKemz said:
Is there an oreo-based kernel to perform cpu underclocking? Or maybe a way to be able to do the underclock on android 8? Because most of them are only on android nougat, but on oreo no one has developed anything yet ...
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You can underclock with stock kernel if I know correctly.
The stock oreo kernel of a520f supports these features and it should apply to (Exynos) most custom kernels, all devices across A 2017, and most related devices.
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq - Max clock of cluster 0, reduce to underclock the CPU.
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq - Max clock of cluster 1, reduce to underclock the CPU.
/sys/power/cpufreq_max_limit - Max clock of both clusters, more forced once permissions are set, watch device temperatures.
/sys/power/cpuhotplug/max_online_cpu - write a number 1 to 8, it is the CPU cores that are online.
Maybe relevant:
/sys/class/misc/mali0/device/dvfs_max_lock - GPU clock, more forced once permissions are set, watch device temperatures.
/sys/class/misc/mali0/device/core_mask - The GPU core combination in use, write a number 1 to 7.
/sys/class/misc/mali0/device/dvfs_governor - GPU governor, write a number 1 to 3.
/sys/class/devfreq/17000010.devfreq_mif/max_freq - could affect cellular and wifi
/sys/class/devfreq/17000020.devfreq_int/max_freq
/sys/class/devfreq/17000030.devfreq_disp/max_freq
/sys/class/devfreq/17000040.devfreq_cam/max_freq
The CPU governor is with scaling_max_freq though only userspace performance interactive.
Reboot to undo changes.
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/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/mp-cpufreq/cluster0_max_freq
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/mp-cpufreq/cluster1_max_freq
Though this should not exceed the max clock, in addition to the governor's settings(/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu[0-7]/cpufreq/interactive/...), the CPU clock is boosted temporarily when the screen is touched, the activity is changed, etc, even when it might not be needed. It's often "touchboost", and could be disabled by enabling medium power saving, or,
/sys/power/cpufreq_min_limit (home, gesture, scroll, app change, unlock)
"644 permissions" - disabled
"664 permissions" - default
check its contents after changing, should be the CPU min clock.
/sys/class/input_booster/level (touch, long touch, multiple fingers, etc)
0 - disabled touchboost
1 - low
2 - default
3 - high
might need the permissions being 464
CPU 4-7 needs to be powered on before cpufreq becomes available in its folder.
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You can underclock with stock kernel if I know correctly.
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Instead of what I understand, with the normal app type cpu master, or no frills cpu you can not change the clock of the CPU and the governor, but with the app Kernel Adiutor, recommended by @iloveoreos is possible, it is very strange this thing. However, despite the underclock of the CPU you can not then earn so much battery, it seems void
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Instead of what I understand, with the normal app type cpu master, or no frills cpu you can not change the clock of the CPU and the governor, but with the app Kernel Adiutor, recommended by @iloveoreos is possible, it is very strange this thing. However, despite the underclock of the CPU you can not then earn so much battery, it seems void
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It doesn't count that much because you rarely use the cpu max freq. Maybe try underclocking the gpu too, if you can but probably not and there's not much else to do
AntoKemz said:
Instead of what I understand, with the normal app type cpu master, or no frills cpu you can not change the clock of the CPU and the governor, but with the app Kernel Adiutor, recommended by @iloveoreos is possible, it is very strange this thing. However, despite the underclock of the CPU you can not then earn so much battery, it seems void
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The cpu and gpu are managed by the OS and its resepective governor settings. Little will be gained by reducing cpu cylcles unless it's correctly managed.
The single biggest battery user is the screen. Either reduce the brightness to the lowest you can stand and limit its on time or use powersave mode which will reduce both screen and cpu/gpu frequency.
Also selecting a more suitable governor helps.
If you frequently use high cpu usage apps its pointless using a conservative governor as you'll just lag the device. An ondemand governor would be better suited.
You can also set apps to be killed the moment you leave them in the developer settings.
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The cpu and gpu are managed by the OS and its resepective governor settings. Little will be gained by reducing cpu cylcles unless it's correctly managed.
The single biggest battery user is the screen. Either reduce the brightness to the lowest you can stand and limit its on time or use powersave mode which will reduce both screen and cpu/gpu frequency.
Also selecting a more suitable governor helps.
If you frequently use high cpu usage apps its pointless using a conservative governor as you'll just lag the device. An ondemand governor would be better suited.
You can also set apps to be killed the moment you leave them in the developer settings.
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The problem is that with the only governors we have in stock are interactive, performance and userspace. The kernel allows me to just adjust the cpu, and on android oreo we do not have custom kernels that allow me to do anything. So in addition to lowering the brightness, really there is nothing that thanks to xposed and the root that allows me to do at least 5 hours of screen? The upgrade to oreo ruined everything, Nougat was too perfect
i've been using this phone for about 2 years now and recently moved (about a few months ago) to using a custom rom (crdroid 7.1.2). it was running smooth and cool until day the clockspeed decided to lock itself at 2000 MHz (checked using cpu-z). I do not know if this is normal but the phone's temperature goes up to 36C on idle. i thought the problem was with the Lspeed app (+custom kernel) so i uninstalled it but it didn't work. I also factory resetting it, but still not luck. will updating the firmware resolve my issue? if not, what other available solutions are there?
have you thought about flashing the stock kernel ?
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have you thought about flashing the stock kernel ?
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I have, but it still gets hot
do you use a case ? does your phone goes over 45 degrees celsius when charging ?
Fytdyh said:
do you use a case ? does your phone goes over 45 degrees celsius when charging ?
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I do use a case, but hasn't been this hot before recently, and it does tend to hit 40C when charging
topsecretasian said:
I do use a case, but hasn't been this hot before recently, and it does tend to hit 40C when charging
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If you are using Fast Charging, that heating is entirely normal (happens to me too)
But heating during idle is not normal. Try changing CPU governor to something else. (like schedutil or powersave)
Canny1913 said:
If you are using Fast Charging, that heating is entirely normal (happens to me too)
But heating during idle is not normal. Try changing CPU governor to something else. (like schedutil or powersave)
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Do you know how to change cpu governor? I tried doing it last night but didn't find a whole lot of information. Schedutil seems to just set it all the way to 2ghz, so I want to change it to powersave
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Do you know how to change cpu governor? I tried doing it last night but didn't find a whole lot of information. Schedutil seems to just set it all the way to 2ghz, so I want to change it to powersave
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use Rootify, select the CPU tab located at the top then change it.
The app sometimes gets stuck at Loading screen though.
Canny1913 said:
use Rootify, select the CPU tab located at the top then change it.
The app sometimes gets stuck at Loading screen though.
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ok so it does work when i change the cpu govenor, but the only option that actually works is 'powersave' (as well as 'userspace'). all the other ones still sets it to 2GHz. 'userspace' seems to have a somewhat of an improvement but it's only setting everything to a constant value. is there a way have it set to balanced mode?
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ok so it does work when i change the cpu govenor, but the only option that actually works is 'powersave' (as well as 'userspace'). all the other ones still sets it to 2GHz. 'userspace' seems to have a somewhat of an improvement but it's only setting everything to a constant value. is there a way have it set to balanced mode?
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powersave forces the processor to work in the lowest frequency availible, thus consuming less power.
userspace allows the app to set the CPU frequency whatever it wants. This isn't supposed to be used in Android since changing CPU speed thorough an app is super uncommon.
Others like ondemand normally keep the power low but starts using the higher frequencies if a processor intensive app is launched.
You can learn which governors do what in this post so you can set the most suitable one for you.
[REF][GUIDE]Saber's guide on CPU governors, I/O schedulers and more!
Collective guide of CPU governors, I/O schedulers and other kernel variables I present to you a wonderful collection of descriptions, comparisons and graphs of common kernel variables. Before continuing on the wonderful journey of Linux kernel...
forum.xda-developers.com
Canny1913 said:
powersave forces the processor to work in the lowest frequency availible, thus consuming less power.
userspace allows the app to set the CPU frequency whatever it wants. This isn't supposed to be used in Android since changing CPU speed thorough an app is super uncommon.
Others like ondemand normally keep the power low but starts using the higher frequencies if a processor intensive app is launched.
You can learn which governors do what in this post so you can set the most suitable one for you.
[REF][GUIDE]Saber's guide on CPU governors, I/O schedulers and more!
Collective guide of CPU governors, I/O schedulers and other kernel variables I present to you a wonderful collection of descriptions, comparisons and graphs of common kernel variables. Before continuing on the wonderful journey of Linux kernel...
forum.xda-developers.com
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I see. Well I guess it does work as a solution.
Thanks for the help!