Question Is there any hack to use/bypass REGULAR S-Pens & disable warnings? - Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 4

So if I hold down buttons (on a forbidden stylus)) I can click and drag in my fold4. It is ABSOLUTELY compatable with older stylus
Its a simple matter of having it allowing the frequency codes of the other stylus. We know it sees them in order to throw up the warnings.
I strongly believe the "will damage your screen" warnings are for gorillas who might use the phone.
I have never warn out a single stylus,
I am a very light pressure drawer and on op of that I have soft nibs & spring nibs from other pens
I want to take the risk and use my standard pens as I have many Wacom devices I use at once and it get annoying swaping pens.
Yes I have the 2-in-1 pro spen. But I dont want the hassle of having to flip the switch 100 times a day.

Same here, hope there is a workaround.

¿Any non samsung spen compatible with our fold 4? I don't want the bt version, just a standar one to have it at home.

kban2000 said:
¿Any non samsung spen compatible with our fold 4? I don't want the bt version, just a standar one to have it at home.
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Nillkin iSketch Adjustable Capacitive Stylus... Bought one a year or so ago. It works on ALL capacitive touch screens...
Cost around $50Aud but work brilliantly...
Quick search found here - https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000379135172.html
You should find a little cheaper if you look as this was 1st hit I found....

I have an old Samsung HM5100 stylus and I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to be able to use it with my fold 4. If anyone can figure out how I can I will be forever thankful.

Came from Note 20 Ultra. There is no reason I shouldn't be able to use it on my Fold4.

Let us all not let this thread die, please.
I have a Note 8 AND a Note 10+.
Both their S-Pen's air gestures can be recognized by the sensors on the Fold 4's inner display.
And I'm gonna be using it with a screen protector anyway.
I don't understand WHY anyone hasn't paid attention to this thread yet.
Come on guys, you'll be collecting blessings out of this.

do the old spens of the note, tab, s series work on fold 4? I have both bt and non bt spen.

peppet said:
do the old spens of the note, tab, s series work on fold 4? I have both bt and non bt spen.
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NO !
SPen Fold edition has an special "retractile nib system" to use with Samsung Folds

Oddly enough, I use the Nilikin Spen on all my devices and it works on the fold 4 even when I turn the SPEN 'off' on the phone, because it is a powered pen (chargeable) .. but- it defeats the purpose. The pen is BIG and has to be carried just as the original SPEN coming from Samsung, and the fold phones do not have WHERE to put them, unless the case has it, and I use the phone naked. Further more- I use a Samsung laptop and it comes with a built in pen that DOES NOT work on the FOLD. Frustration? Hack yeah ! So I have a pen that works on 'all' my devices, but it isn't a reasonable solution. Also - The Nilikin pen has a fairly wide tip compared to the original FOLD SPEN. Not great. Samsung must find a way, with such a bulky phone, to host an SPEN, and better be one compatible to their other devices (laptop and N10/N20 series). Pathetic solution so far for the FOLD 3/4 .

Ok, I won't buy it then!

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[Q]Galaxy S 2 Stylus

what is the best stylus that is available for accurate writing and sketching?
-Is the Samsung Note stylus works with the galaxy S2?
Thank you.
The Note's pen will not work as it is not as stylus, it's a digitizer pen that uses a special system in the screen.
To be honest, and I have more experience with capacitive styli than probably 99.9% of people on here, the S2 is too small to really give you good accuracy with any stylus that is designed for normal capacitive screens. A stylus is even pretty useless for notes and sketching on my 7-inch Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus, and even on my iPad I rely heavily on apps that get around the inherent inaccuracy of capacitive styli with apps that have great zoom or magnification options. Navigating menus etc as an extension of your finger is one thing, but sketching and note taking is something completely different.
If you do decide to get one, stay far far away from those generic brands you find on eBay etc, and far away even from styli from Belkin, Griffin etc that you normally find in electronics stores. The more expensive styli ($20-30 range US) are in a whole other class when it comes to both accuracy and durability. I would suggest a stylus that doesn't look huge next to the S2, which eliminates some of the bigger ones out there that are big to emulate permanent markers. Both the Architect Stylus and Wacom Stylus are great and small. I have both, and they're a bit more sanely sized next to the S2 than e.g. the Cosmonaut, AluPen, Maglus etc. You might however want to look at the Jot stylus first. For accuracy on a small screen, it's probably your best bet, though the disc type tip is not to everyone's taste
Thank you very much you I think i will go with the JOT PRO.
you guys really want to see this.
i know the screen of galaxy is too small when comparing to tab,but that guy is really amazing [video is a part of avdt of stylus]
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
question about the stylus used in the above video
Cptnodegard said:
Yep, it is of course possible to do on such a small screen, but you end up zooming and panning a lot. The Galaxy Note is a whole other beast with that pen it comes with, will be interesting to see what pops up on YouTube in terms of drawings made on it
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Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
verbaltech said:
Hello thank you inadvance for awnsering,
I ask you this question because i im curious if you know wich pen was used in the above video. and if its possible the use that pen with WACOM's drwaing tablets.
als i am currently looking to buy a second hand wacom tablet. Can you pleasse tell me what to look out for when making a secondhand purchase. (maybe the pen is broke of skratches on the screen ect.
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That's a Just Mobile AluPen. Won't work with drawing tablets, completely different technology
Had DAGi Stylus P101 model lying around and tried it since it's winter... have to say it works just fine swiping, scrolling and everything else on my SGS2.
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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OP asked the same question....
Ixdankd said:
does the galaxy note stylus work with the s2?
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Why don't you try it and see if it works... just go to nearby store and have a blast And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
Fevves said:
And where would you get a Note stylus anyways...
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Not that they would work, but they are sold separately. Replacements for Notes, obviously
I ordered a cheap $1 Stylus off ebay some time ago, still waiting for it to arrive. While it may not be as accurate as the higher class ones, I don't really need it that bad to begin with (I've come to accept that taking notes on my SGS2 isn't a viable option).

Should the s-pen have flexible or stiff tip?

I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
lukair1983 said:
I just purchased note 8.0 which is really great, but one thing is starting to annoy me (a little). That's the tip of the s-pen which is flexible (it moves on the sides a milimetr or two) and also if I press it against a surface the tip is pushed a 1/2 mm inside the s-pen.
I would much more preffer a stiff tip, like my pen's, and I was wondering if it's just a faulty s-pen I got, or if it's by design and all you have the same kind of s-pen tip?
If so... is there any way I can make the tip to be still like say... a pencil tip? What would be important is to have it reversible, so gluing the tip to the case is rather out of the question.
Any help from someone who was looking for the same thing as me?
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Doesn't seem that your s-pen is faulty.
The Moving tip is part of Wacom tech and is what detects taps/clicks as well as pressure.
, however a mm or 2 2 sideways is a bit too much and should not happen.
My other Wacom pen for regular pc tablet (intuos) also dips in and out a bit, so that's normal.
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
lukair1983 said:
Thanks for responding. I appriciate taking the time.
But isn't it true that you can use other manufacturers pens with galaxy note series, and some of them have stiff tips?
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I don't think you can use other manufacturer pens with note 8. Even Only few of the pens by wacom are compatible.
There are wacom pens with replaceable tips, but they more or less give a different surface feel as opposed to a rigid tip itself.
Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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Oh, I didn't know that. So the s-pen's for Galaxy Note 8.0 are different than for other note's, in terms of technology? The thing about other pens I was writing in reference to other galaxy devices that use s-pen, where people said they purchased other (bigger) stylus'es.
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as far as i am aware, up to samsung Galaxy Note 3.0 all s-pen enabled devices have same underlying technology by wacom, so it's the same manufacturer (samsung/wacom).
however some pens might work across the board on a lot of devices and some might not due to device specific calibrations.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/overlays/articles/2013/1027-samsung-galaxy-note
I see. Thanks for additional info.

what makes the "S-pen work"

No need to tell you all how much we use the pen, being forced to lose it, Ouch....... So can we get the S7 or S7 active too read the X Y of the pen, I know we can't store the S-pen in the phone, but that's a small price to pay.
i think note series had special digitalizer..very diferent with s7 s7edge
Nope. Won't work.
The Note devices has a Wacom digitizer beneath that works with the S Pen.
You could try getting a Samsung Tablet that comes with the S Pen. The Note 7 Pen should work on it too.
Thanks for the reply guys, its shame it cant be done, I can't let go of my note 7, using the pen on the s/edge7 would have been to convenient huh
✒ SPen. Let me give you my 3 cents.
What is not: resistive or capacitive pen. Meaning aplying pressure (Like and old iPhone) will not make it work like the resistive pens. Nor will holding it with your hand or touching skin-pen combination. You can put it on a vise-grip and it will work.
What it is: It works like the sensor on your car keys. Where it has a coil inside and if you place it close enough to a magnetic source you will get feedback or pen strokes. The Note 7 has a metal sheet used as a magnetic source behind its regular screen.
What you need on a Non-Note phone is a "Capacitive" pen. Made of all metal some with battery and make direct skin-pen to screen contact for it to work like the SPen. Unfortunately nobody wants metal rubbing a glass screen obviously ?
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Question S pen pro? or fold s pen?

Been reading up on both. does anyone have both? Also looking for a case to hold the pen. Looks like we are all waiting for a few places to come out with one that is good.
Excited to get mine. will be here on Thursday.
I don't have both, but the fold SPen is the perfect size in my opinion. I was expecting it to be approximately the same size as the note 20 ultra pen so I ordered the pro model as well. I've since canceled the pro pen order as the fold pen is perfect for what I need. I use it to make notes and navigate on the inner screen.
I own the Fold Edition s pen. I really don't need the added functionality of the Pro model pen on my Fold as I already own other s pen devices with said capabilities. Also, the size of the Pro pen doesn't seem right, doesn't seem comfortable to hold do to its length.
Here are my stylus pens for my Tab S7 Plus, Fold3, wife's Tab S6 and her N20U.
I have both. Was a mistake in ordering.
I only wanted the fold edition.
The pro is thicker and longer. More of a sit down and maybe draw vs the fold edition which is more portable to me.
The only added for the pro is bluetooth. But even when i had my note i never used the bluetooth parts.
I have the fold edition and am waiting on my pro to arrive. I use a ton of the Bluetooth features, along with the basics. I purchased the fold edition, only because the pro wasn't in sock at the places I looked. I will be returning the fold edition and case combo as soon as my pro arrives..
The S pen Pro is significantly larger than the Fold edition and will not fit in the case for Flip cover with the detachable Fold edition S pen
I have both S Pens and for the Fold 3 the simpler cheaper S Pen is fine. The Pro does not seem to have a smaller stylus size than the S Pen with Tab S7 + so not sure why one would want the Pro.
I got both just because they were "free" with credits. One for using at home (Pro), and the other for on the go (Fold Edition) my Fold Edition arrived with the TERRIBLE flip case, but I'm still waiting on my Pro.
I Have the pro... strangely enough it will not connect to my fold 3. (im using nova & Microsoft launchers with the screenscut down to 48 maxhz adaptive for battery)
Fastdrawl4 said:
Been reading up on both. does anyone have both? Also looking for a case to hold the pen. Looks like we are all waiting for a few places to come out with one that is good.
Excited to get mine. will be here on Thursday.
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(Controversial ?) answer... NEITHER! I will never use the S Pen Fold that came free with my Fold3.
I owned every Note from the Note 4 upwards - for the big screen, big storage and latest camera tech
- I never ever used the S Pen and never saw the point of it. RIP Samsung Note range.
The fold spen works on tab s6 just not gestures
exocetdj said:
The fold spen works on tab s6 just not gestures
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Oh really, never heard that, I thought it just works on the Fold
Mr6P said:
Oh really, never heard that, I thought it just works on the Fold
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Obviously just don't try visa versa due to more delicate screen on fold 3 lol
exocetdj said:
Obviously just don't try visa versa due to more delicate screen on fold 3 lol
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Haha of course I won't thanks for the warning anyways
Mr6P said:
Haha of course I won't thanks for the warning anyways
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I defo feel for those that don't bear these things in mind lol
The inner protector also seems to smooth out minor dents also which is sweet
exocetdj said:
I defo feel for those that don't bear these things in mind lol
The inner protector also seems to smooth out minor dents also which is sweet
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I am often annoyed because the S-Pen Fold edition touches the screen, but nothing happens. I'm not even sure if this is on purpose by the software or a bug. Often happens with buttons, like the 4 buttons on top of the notification center (above the quick settings toggles)
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I am often annoyed because the S-Pen Fold edition touches the screen, but nothing happens. I'm not even sure if this is on purpose by the software or a bug. Often happens with buttons, like the 4 buttons on top of the notification center (above the quick settings toggles)
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Hmm sounds odd. I'll give that a test after work. I know the front screen doesn't support the spen but not sure of any areas on the inner screen that don't
Mr6P said:
I am often annoyed because the S-Pen Fold edition touches the screen, but nothing happens. I'm not even sure if this is on purpose by the software or a bug. Often happens with buttons, like the 4 buttons on top of the notification center (above the quick settings toggles)
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It does appear to be behaving for me. I'm able to select all four icons described
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It does appear to be behaving for me. I'm able to select all four icons described
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It's difficult to explain. I can touch them too and they work, when you tap on it with the S-Pen "firmly", but if you just touch it without pressing it won't work lot of times for me. I don't know how to explain that easily. This just happens with some UI elements, that's why I kinda think that it's intentional. But I now this never happened with my Note 10+ and a "real" S-Pen
Mr6P said:
It's difficult to explain. I can touch them too and they work, when you tap on it with the S-Pen "firmly", but if you just touch it without pressing it won't work lot of times for me. I don't know how to explain that easily. This just happens with some UI elements, that's why I kinda think that it's intentional. But I now this never happened with my Note 10+ and a "real" S-Pen
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Defo sounds odd. I'm not sure if we can alter spen sensitivity or not can we?

Question Anyone tried third party stylus??

My son has a stylus with a super soft tip. I linked it below. It's really cheap and works well as far as s responsiveness with the fold 3. I know they tell us not to use anything other than samung-approved spens, but I'm wondering if anyone has used a third party stylus??
https://www.amazon.com/Screens-Universal-Capacitive-Tablets-Multicolor/dp/B086V7BG9F/ref=sxin_18_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?cv_ct_cx=stylus&dchild=1&keywords=stylus&pd_rd_i=B086V7BG9F&pd_rd_r=3cc717cf-ab1b-42f1-9cf8-042a9caa1419&pd_rd_w=bkmen&pd_rd_wg=re0GT&pf_rd_p=405aa184-c196-4cdb-857d-a32dfefe584e&pf_rd_r=1KX48RVTS3A8EHM95M6Q&qid=1632340098&sr=1-2-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExOFpKSDMyWlI2NzkyJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNjI2NTYzMVQ0VU00V1lRV003TiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzE4MTUxSVVXTUszSkQxTTdHJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Fold edition of s pen has a tip that can go in a bit if you push hard. While normal stylus with hard tip that cannot, will cause damage to big screen. One you linked has a soft tip so It should work, but keep in mind the s pen uses a technology for smooth movement and such. I think it's a wacom technology or w.e it's called. So if you want that you need to use s pen and no 3rd party stylus. Since one you linked does not have technology in it.
Samsung uses Wacom EMR technology. The newer fold editions use the same wacom as they always have but they use a different frequency in order to make the device reject the older Spens. The new frequency is actually the same frequency used by wacom emr stylus that have dedicated erasers like the old spen with eraser or the norton jumbo digital pencil. If you hold the eraser end to the screen of the fold it will pick it up as it does the new fold edition spen.
That said im sure someone can come up with a workaround. You have to apply quite a bit of pressure to get the tip to retract on the fold edition spen. I never write that hard and im not sure who does. But i have spent hundreds on 3rd party emr stylus that i cant use anymore. I recently replaced a surface pro with a galaxy book flex just so i could control my pc phone and tablet with one stylus. Now i got a zfold 3 and im carrying multiple stylus. And dont get me started on the difficulty ive had ordering the cross compatable spen pro...

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