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Exynos vs Snapdragon forums. Should they be separate?

I really wish the mods here would separate the exynos and snapdragon s10+ forums. The only thing these phones share is the name. The power plants are completely different. It's so confusing when people talk about root and updates and you have no clue what version of the phone the poster is talking about. Is there any crossover as far as development is concerned? Is there any reason to lump these phones together other than the name? I wouldn't go to a Charger hellcat thread for info on a 6 Cylinder Charger.

+1 for this
The S8 forums are separated, it's much easier to understand what applies to your phone and what doesn't.

I don't think the Snapdragon will have enough content to justify the different forum, they're mostly locked, if anything comes out for the Chinese ones they can just mention it in the title.

Corv0 said:
I don't think the Snapdragon will have enough content to justify the different forum, they're mostly locked, if anything comes out for the Chinese ones they can just mention it in the title.
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If people would actually mention what version they had it would be easier. Most dont.

Corv0 said:
I don't think the Snapdragon will have enough content to justify the different forum, they're mostly locked, if anything comes out for the Chinese ones they can just mention it in the title.
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That's how its always been though. No reason for XDA to change it up now and keep everything together with the vast differences each phone has.

Well other then latin american and HK variants all the snaps are locked so 95% of any talk of root, twrp, roms etc will be for exynos only.
I have never really had an issue with the 2 variants being in one area.
Now if all the snaps were unlocked then yes definitely would need separate forums because many people are too lazy to read and would then end up flashing the wrong things.

force70 said:
Well other then latin american and HK variants all the snaps are locked so 95% of any talk of root, twrp, roms etc will be for exynos only.
I have never really had an issue with the 2 variants being in one area.
Now if all the snaps were unlocked then yes definitely would need separate forums because many people are too lazy to read and would then end up flashing the wrong things.
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My point is that the S8 Snapdragon is locked but has root. The methods to root between the US Snapdragon and other Snapdragon variants are completely different and may cause confusion, or worse - bricking a device.
I agree, users should read the guides thoroughly prior to attempting root but if all the mods had to do was create a US sub forum to prevent that, I think it would be worth it. They don't have to separate the carriers, but at least have one for the US only, since Qualcomm is vastly different.

Corv0 said:
I don't think the Snapdragon will have enough content to justify the different forum, they're mostly locked, if anything comes out for the Chinese ones they can just mention it in the title.
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That may change soon. There is a guy busting his butt to unlock the SD Note 9. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/n960u-u1-t3897797

This subject is already addressed to Admins. :good:

Do we have TWRP yet?

Sorry for wasting space here, everyone. I was just wondering if the 3a XL has TWRP yet. I just ordered one and the first thing I do on a new device is install TWRP and root.
Thanks

You can root, but no TWRP yet. The 3 and 3 XL took just about a month. Shouldn't be too long now.

Troy owned a 3XL making it a sure thing for sooner rather than later. Someone with the knowledge could have made it within a fairly short time period since the work is already partially done over in flagship land:; An example would be the OP7, it already has TWRP, a half dozen ROMs, a couple kernals. I'm not saying it isn't coming to this device, it probably is given time. You do have to have someone working on it though or it never happens. Flar2 for instance has a 3aXL and thanks to him we have his kernal. This is how it works, the benefits of these various ROMs, TWRP, kernals, come from a fairly small pool of developers and if one or more of them does not pick up the gauntlet you've got handy tips on these pages but not much else.
Lets us hope that a few of them have seen the value in these devices...

Pixel 3a and XL will have TWRP.
Even the $100 Android phones have TWRP.
It is a matter of when, my guess would be within the next two weeks from now.
Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk

I keep trying to make time to sit down and do an unofficial TWRP, but Everytime I do, something comes up. It's kinda killing me ...

Sc4ryB3ar said:
I keep trying to make time to sit down and do an unofficial TWRP, but Everytime I do, something comes up. It's kinda killing me ...
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Seems like LOS will come for 3a(XL), so I bet we will see a twrp build soon.

Out of curiosity, because I come from a Samsung: what are the main differences between Pixel's stock firmware and LOS?
As far as I know LOS have a kind of dark mode already enabled (coming to stock with Q) and some privacy option added?
Is there anything more than this?

crian said:
Seems like LOS will come for 3a(XL), so I bet we will see a twrp build soon.
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Out of curiosity, what makes you say it seems like we'll get LOS for the 3a(XL)? It would be a 100% buy for me if that were the case, just wasn't sure if a notable dev has picked one up and mentioned planning to do so or something and I've missed it, thanks!

Skidoo03 said:
Out of curiosity, what makes you say it seems like we'll get LOS for the 3a(XL)? It would be a 100% buy for me if that were the case, just wasn't sure if a notable dev has picked one up and mentioned planning to do so or something and I've missed it, thanks!
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Just take a look at their GitHub
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_kernel_google_bonito
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_google_bonito

crian said:
Seems like LOS will come for 3a(XL), so I bet we will see a twrp build soon.
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crian said:
Just take a look at their GitHub
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_kernel_google_bonito
https://github.com/LineageOS/android_device_google_bonito
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Thanks! Didn't even think to check that, was thinking they seemed to be good devices for LOS but hadn't heard anything yet so now I'm hopeful.

I'm really happy when the custom roms come out

What I was trying to say gents is that this device doesn't appear to be all that popular to me. Right now there are 627 threads open on the OP7 section compared to 62 here and that phone came out after. I'm BTW not counting the advertising section called reviews which will typically have 30, 40, 50 threads for every device.. I have never seen a less active device section on this forum than this one and I go back to before android started and have had all the Nexus devices except one, all the Galaxy S and Note devices accept 2 and I'm not going to list all the rest of the random devices I've had because you get the idea. I'm not sure what this phone is doing in terms of sales volume but I am sure that if they are being sold they are not being sold to enthusiast like us because if they were those owners would be here. I think some of you folks are kidding yourselves about the amount of development that is going to go on here. This is one of those cases where I would like nothing better than to be wrong but I'm not seeing any crow eating in my future.

I certainly hope your wrong but, I am afraid as you are that this device,,,,albeit a great one,,,,isnt getting the attention by devs. I know it is still too soon to tell and all that. But, if you go off past popular devices, and how fast development sprang up since it was released, this one seems lagging. Lets hope the future is bright for this device and dev support.
krabman said:
What I was trying to say gents is that this device doesn't appear to be all that popular to me. Right now there are 627 threads open on the OP7 section compared to 62 here and that phone came out after. I'm BTW not counting the advertising section called reviews which will typically have 30, 40, 50 threads for every device.. I have never seen a less active device section on this forum than this one and I go back to before android started and have had all the Nexus devices except one, all the Galaxy S and Note devices accept 2 and I'm not going to list all the rest of the random devices I've had because you get the idea. I'm not sure what this phone is doing in terms of sales volume but I am sure that if they are being sold they are not being sold to enthusiast like us because if they were those owners would be here. I think some of you folks are kidding yourselves about the amount of development that is going to go on here. This is one of those cases where I would like nothing better than to be wrong but I'm not seeing any crow eating in my future.
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krabman said:
What I was trying to say gents is that this device doesn't appear to be all that popular to me. Right now there are 627 threads open on the OP7 section compared to 62 here and that phone came out after. I'm BTW not counting the advertising section called reviews which will typically have 30, 40, 50 threads for every device.. I have never seen a less active device section on this forum than this one and I go back to before android started and have had all the Nexus devices except one, all the Galaxy S and Note devices accept 2 and I'm not going to list all the rest of the random devices I've had because you get the idea. I'm not sure what this phone is doing in terms of sales volume but I am sure that if they are being sold they are not being sold to enthusiast like us because if they were those owners would be here. I think some of you folks are kidding yourselves about the amount of development that is going to go on here. This is one of those cases where I would like nothing better than to be wrong but I'm not seeing any crow eating in my future.
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I bought the not xl version- I get the same vibe you're picking up. I think it's selling, but probably not to many enthusiasts as other phones. Maybe people are buying it because they actually went to use it as a phone? I think after the nexus line crashed, I think people have looked elsewhere for development phones. I don't have a one plus phone, but they seem to release kernels and factory images, which helps development. I'm sure google will do the same.
In other news, I've built aosp and los for sargo. Full disclosure- I haven't flashed anything yet, I haven't even opened the box; so I can't say how well the ROMs run. I'm sure bonito will build just fine too. aosp just needed the drivers/binaries from the website. For los, I used the extract files script and the stock images. The point is that we seen to have ROM support already, but maybe just low interest from the modding community.

Could it be the forums aren't hopping specifically *because* there's so little dev at this point?
I'd expect it to be light when TWRP isn't even around yet. I would expect it to pick up quite a bit once TWRP drops, though.

PhoenixPath said:
Could it be the forums aren't hopping specifically *because* there's so little dev at this point?
I'd expect it to be light when TWRP isn't even around yet. I would expect it to pick up quite a bit once TWRP drops, though.
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I do wish the forums were consolidated for the two devices. Then it would seem busier . I think there would be a bit of synergy since the two devices share so much. Sorry for the OT. I'll dust off my twrp repos and see if I can cook something up.

I was surprised they didn't combine them and just have two different development sub-sections, I've been on other devices where they did that and it seemed to work well. As to the lack of TWRP or other development I don't really think that's it although it's certainly a contributor. IMO you would have many more people asking general questions as you can see everywhere else, there are a lot of people who come to XDA but don't root. It really appears the either the phone isn't in too many hands or those hands belong to those pesky non phone people.

Actually...
Senaxo said:
I'm really happy when the custom roms come out
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Dirty Unicorns has an RC out for bonito (3a XL) dated 23 May - you can grab it now. (According to IDM, it is 1.197 GB large.)
Nothing new on the TWRP front for bonito - official or otherwise.

Many of the phones out there seem to have come from a T-Mobile trade-in offer that made the devices nearly free after credits. Problem is that for most of these devices, they'll be carrier locked and in turn bootloader locked for a while. Users have resigned themselves to unrooted optimizations until these locks are gone. Hopefully development will mirror all four of the 3rd gen devices as they pretty similar.

Sargo's top of my list right now for a phone upgrade (my S4 got me thru so many years), but without TWRP and LOS I just can't bring myself to buy it.
Never done any work on android before (besides flashing of course), but I'll throw my hat in the ring and try to get a TWRP build together this weekend.
Mind if I DM ya @gee one when I inevitably get stuck somewhere?

Gcam 6.1 for Exynos [Night sight]

SETTINGS REQUIRED***********
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TwQx92Y7eNBVdsNlYsR_tkTFG0b5Ian8/view?usp=drivesdk
DOWNLOAD LINK°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°•°
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/cfiles/gcm1/Gcam_6.1.021_Advanced_V1.7.190716.1800.apk
If apk works please hit thanks button ??

Not working ,
Exynos variant

Thy this
Work perfectly on my N20U Exynos, and on telegram group you can find config files (I use S20U config file)
https://koopahtmaniac.com/index.php

Doesn't work, snapdragon variant, app crashes on start

I've been trying different GCam apks all night trying to find one with astrophotography that actually works. Either they crash, or it doesn't actually save the photo.

Captain_wade_ said:
Doesn't work, snapdragon variant, app crashes on start
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The title of the thread "Gcam 6.1 for Exynos" not SD!

slovik1024 said:
Thy this
Work perfectly on my N20U Exynos, and on telegram group you can find config files (I use S20U config file)
https://koopahtmaniac.com/index.php
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Can you please provide a link on wetransfer or another sharing service of the file as the site koopahtmaniac is TRASH. I tried for 2 hours to download the latest apk but no luck everytime load those silly ads

ggrant3876 said:
The title of the thread "Gcam 6.1 for Exynos" not SD!
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To be fair, I missed that too. LOL

Djmk4 said:
Can you please provide a link on wetransfer or another sharing service of the file as the site koopahtmaniac is TRASH. I tried for 2 hours to download the latest apk but no luck everytime load those silly ads
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The apk is linked in the OP. It's a direct download.

the_scotsman said:
The apk is linked in the OP. It's a direct download.
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The apk linked in the OP is worthless, it crashes immediately on my N20 Ultra 5G...

fonix232 said:
The apk linked in the OP is worthless, it crashes immediately on my N20 Ultra 5G...
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Do you have Exynos or SD?

the_scotsman said:
The apk is linked in the OP. It's a direct download.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Do you have Exynos or SD?
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Exynos. As the title says. Unlike certain others, I read what's in front of me and don't just post out in the wild.

fonix232 said:
Exynos. As the title says. Unlike certain others, I read what's in front of me and don't just post out in the wild.
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Man, I'm sorry you're having such a rough day. I've had them too. I'll be praying for whatever is going on in your life right now.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Man, I'm sorry you're having such a rough day. I've had them too. I'll be praying for whatever is going on in your life right now.
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Eh, there's nothing rough, I just keep forgetting that XDA has become chock-full of people who don't read, just comment (spamming threads with useless bits of "information"), and I'm generally used to communities that are more... Contextually coherent. Such as, when the title says Exynos, and I have a Snapdragon version, it's clear that I shouldn't comment in that thread.

I made a simple mistake, read too quick and didn't notice it said exynos, no need to be so salty. Just point out i missed and move on.
Moving on; Anyone had any luck finding a snapdragon version? I found a 7.2 gcam mod that works for snapdragon devices on a repository that works for astrophotography but can't utilize the full 108mp sensor main, the telephoto, or the front cam for portrait mode

Captain_wade_ said:
I made a simple mistake, read too quick and didn't notice it said exynos, no need to be so salty. Just point out i missed and move on.
Moving on; Anyone had any luck finding a snapdragon version? I found a 7.2 gcam mod that works for snapdragon devices on a repository that works for astrophotography but can't utilize the full 108mp sensor main, the telephoto, or the front cam for portrait mode
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We just need to be patient, in time we'll have the goodies rolling in. I bought the Unlocked N20U directly from Samsung, so I'm hoping I'll finally be able to root and install custom roms again after years of being locked down on Verizon phones.

fonix232 said:
Eh, there's nothing rough, I just keep forgetting that XDA has become chock-full of people who don't read, just comment (spamming threads with useless bits of "information"), and I'm generally used to communities that are more... Contextually coherent. Such as, when the title says Exynos, and I have a Snapdragon version, it's clear that I shouldn't comment in that thread.
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fonix232 said:
Exynos. As the title says. Unlike certain others, I read what's in front of me and don't just post out in the wild.
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imucarmen said:
We just need to be patient, in time we'll have the goodies rolling in. I bought the Unlocked N20U directly from Samsung, so I'm hoping I'll finally be able to root and install custom roms again after years of being locked down on Verizon phones.
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Sadly I had to get the at&t variant, couldn't pass up the $300 deal and semi early delivery (got it roughly last week) but I'm excited to see what devs can do with any of the models, though personally most of the features I rooted my s8 for are on the note 20 ultra now so I'm mostly looking for a working gcam mod, I prefer the image quality especially on portrait mode (much better edge detection from what I've noticed on my s10e)

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Ok folks let's knock it off and bring it down a notch please and thank you. If you haven't done so yet please read xda rules and in particular rule 2.3 and lets just avoid going down this path.
We will take a mulligan on this one and resume discussion on topic in a more respectful manner. As a rule of thumb if someone starts to get you fired up do one of a few things; ignore and keep scrolling, report or just log off and so something else. It's not Facebook and we don't roast people and start wars around here.
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Snap gcam
How long does it usually take for a snapdragon version to be released?

Captain_wade_ said:
I made a simple mistake, read too quick and didn't notice it said exynos, no need to be so salty. Just point out i missed and move on.
Moving on; Anyone had any luck finding a snapdragon version? I found a 7.2 gcam mod that works for snapdragon devices on a repository that works for astrophotography but can't utilize the full 108mp sensor main, the telephoto, or the front cam for portrait mode
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link for the 7,2 that works. i tried a bunch and they all just crash

Why is the (exynos) devlopment so dead & sloppy ?

Wassup Guys,
First of all, I wanna thank every developer in this forum here for providing us with free custom roms and mods for our device. I got a G986B by myself, but I neither rooted my device, nor did I install a custom rom. I wanted to install the latest stock debloated by hmy65, sadly my device type is not supported yet.
This brings me to the question, why there are so less projects in comparison to the amount of people being active here? Besides the reason, that Samsung is not providing every source tree or similar, I am wondering why there are so less custom roms currently ...is it because of massive amount of variety between the model itself? I am a developer too, sadly I am not a pro regarding building custom roms... although I gotta admit that I am interested in learning it. Well, what do you say? I mean like the S8,S9,S10 had plenty roms avaible at that time (speaking about the passed time since the device's release).

Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.

digitaljeff said:
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..

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Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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X04D said:
Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..
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Well, that's true. But I guess I speak for the majority, when I say that Samsung and Snapdragon is not always a perfect combination. Well, I'd actually build something by myself but I doubt that someone can learn that fast ??

General I guess the Pixel 6 is old news

Not listed under new or top device on the Forums Tab .

Not much happening in the 6 forums, but still early...

EYEBALLING ON THE 6 PRO THO

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Not listed under new or top device on the Forums Tab .
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I don't even have the phone (yet) and I already wish they'd give the da*m forum the classic look. It's probably like that because there's not a lot of development yet but Jesus, that AIO look makes me feel like the phones still a rumor