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LG is showcasing a new display that claims to be the world's first full HD LCD smartphone panel - measuring five-inches and supporting up to 1080p video.
The display boasts a pixel density of 440 PPI with a 16:9 aspect ratio.
According to LG, the display technology is a variant of IPS - or Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching or AH-IPS.
This provides wide viewing angles for the display, faster response time, along with improved efficiency and brightness.
Interestingly enough, LG claims the naked eye is unable to distinguish between individual pixels on the new screen, which promises faster response time and smooth image transitions. The company also says the display is ideal for use in outdoor settings thanks to its improved brightness.
The display is set to be available in the second half 2012, which means smartphones equipped with the new hardware could appear just a few months later.
the icing on the cake is that is right about when i get to upgrade..
derp, i started this in the wrong sub-forum huh!
I have a nexus 7 2013 and I'm thinking of selling it because the screen is too small for me. I'm looking at buying a gpad but there are two things holding me back:
The battery life - I regularly get 10+ hours of screen time with 2 days total usage on my nexus 7, does the gpad have a similar battery life?
The screen brightness - I keep hearing that the screen brightness on this tablet is pretty low, what do you guys think?
Thanks for your help.
JJbdoggg said:
I have a nexus 7 2013 and I'm thinking of selling it because the screen is too small for me. I'm looking at buying a gpad but there are two things holding me back:
The battery life - I regularly get 10+ hours of screen time with 2 days total usage on my nexus 7, does the gpad have a similar battery life?
The screen brightness - I keep hearing that the screen brightness on this tablet is pretty low, what do you guys think?
Thanks for your help.
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I also have a Nexus 7 2013 and just purchased the G Pad. To be fair the G Pad is a very good device but so far the Nexus 7 is by far the better device. Screen is much better on Nexus. Its more of an auto brightness problem on the G Pad, if you manually turn it up its bright, but the auto function does not keep it bright enough. I have a yellow area at the top of the G Pad and Its making me contimplate exchanging it, or returning it altogether, because of the many stories of faulty screens with this thing. If you search further into the Ipad Air forums you will see that they have terrible yellowing issues with there screens and guess who makes those screens for Apple. Some Ipads have an entire side that is yellow.
I have only charged mine twice, but for me the Nexus 7 wins hands down for battery. I have both devices set up exactly the same, except I share the 7 with the wife who has an account on it. I get an easy 6 hours screen time over several days and still have 20% remaining. The G pad I have gotten 5 hours out of it and its been below 10%.
Hope this helps.
If you need the screen size, get the gpad. The fact the bezel is small, fools most people into thinking they are the same size.
To your questions:
Screen is bright enough, auto brightness lacks, but since you are in xda you can find a rom that allows you to correct it.
As for the battery, they have similar mahs, so any difference comes down to screen size/brightness and android version. Maybe the Google edition is closer to your needs?
Not exactly relevant,but have a look at this review: it might address your concerns about the screen
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G-Pad-8.3-vs-Apple-iPad-mini-2-with-Retina-Display_id3527
Ps:I had the old nexus 7, I have spent some time with the new one, and I own the lg gpad. Gpad is in a different category.
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G Pad 8.3 looks like its display brightness is turned down all the way.
I have the G Pad, and trust me when I say this, it is bright enough. Outdoor use & direct sunlight will be a problem, but indoors - Max brightness is almost always too much
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I have the G Pad, and trust me when I say this, it is bright enough. Outdoor use & direct sunlight will be a problem, but indoors - Max brightness is almost always too much
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I completely agree. On my Nexus 4 the brightness is never more than 60% for me. The same for my Note 10.1. At night, in bed I often put the brightness to minimum, and it still feels to much. With the G Pad... Wow, I love the minimum. On sunny days, i do max out the brightness, but I find it perfectly good enough.
I have to say, i absolutely love the auto brightness on the G Pad. You can configure the auto brightness.... Fantastic.
Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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Same here - I run at 35% indoors and down to 20% in the dark, and oftentimes the latter is too bright for me. Also, I have a matte screen protector which dims it a smidge further... No problems for me.
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note sure if you already bought the tablet but here is a comparision between my g pad and tab 3 8.0. Tab 3 is on the bottom and you can see the brightness is higher on it but images look washed out. If you see the g pad, you can see a bit dimmer but the picture is amazing. The tab is only 800 by 1280 but I just wanted to show you the brightness at 100%.
Impromark said:
Same here - I run at 35% indoors and down to 20% in the dark, and oftentimes the latter is too bright for me. Also, I have a matte screen protector which dims it a smidge further... No problems for me.
Mark
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Indoors I run mine at 30% brightness in daylight and 20% with room lights after dark. I have tested outdoors, but never actually used it seriously outdoors, but it seems to cope. I accept that it could be brighter, but it is OK.
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NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
note sure if you already bought the tablet but here is a comparision between my g pad and tab 3 8.0. Tab 3 is on the bottom and you can see the brightness is higher on it but images look washed out. If you see the g pad, you can see a bit dimmer but the picture is amazing. The tab is only 800 by 1280 but I just wanted to show you the brightness at 100%.
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I had mine before I had to RMA and I was shocked it was really bright for me. From all the complaints people get I thought it would be really dim but it was just fine. I never use my electronics outside but yeah direct sunlight will probably greatly reduce visibility. Anyway I found it was pretty bright for me.
Brightness is very low. Bad screen. How to fix?
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Brightness is very low. Bad screen. How to fix?
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You have it set to 100% brightness and it still isn't bright enough? Better get another tablet.
I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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My wife has a mini retina. IMO, it's really boring compared to my G Pad. And crippled in many ways.
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My wife has a mini retina. IMO, it's really boring compared to my G Pad. And crippled in many ways.
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I can see the "boring" part although I was looking forward to eventually trying a jailbreak. Hubby's ALL Apple, sons are mixed, and I'm PC/Android. They will let me do anything to their Androids, but no one will let me "play" with Iphones or Ipads. :'(
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ritchea said:
I had one for a few days. I really like some aspects of the pad, but I found it very difficult to watch a video with dark scenes even with the brightness at 100%. I got a 2013 N7 at the same time. It won out, but it is my fifth google device so I'm biased. I did not think the google edition gpad worth the extra cost. I was hoping it would be closer to iPad mini retina. Yeah, I really considered throwing an apple in the basket.
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yea, it is definitely dim compared to others. I like both the n7 and this one but reason I like lg pad is the 8.3" screen. If nexus comes out with something like that soon, I would buy it..
I have a samsung galaxy s3 and while it's not that bright ive never had any major issues and generally happy at home and out and about such as commute. I note that it has a brightness rating of 224 whereas the lg g pad is rated at 289 cd/m2. Wondering if this is a good comparison when thinking about buying g pad and brightness. This makes the g pad brighter?
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I have a samsung galaxy s3 and while it's not that bright ive never had any major issues and generally happy at home and out and about such as commute. I note that it has a brightness rating of 224 whereas the lg g pad is rated at 289 cd/m2. Wondering if this is a good comparison when thinking about buying g pad and brightness. This makes the g pad brighter?
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Max brightness is difficult to assess on OLED screens like the one in your Galaxy S3 because they dynamically adapt the total output of the panel in order to stay within a power limit (like plasmas do, too), so that means that depending on the way the screen of the GS3 was measured it could produce whites much brighter than 224 cd/m² if the screen isn't entirely white, whereas LCDs max output don't vary depending on what content is displayed.
After about 2 months, I gave up on the G Pad due to its lack of brightness and clarity while viewing movies. Nexus 7 2013 blew it away. People will say there is no difference, but if you do actual side by side you will see what you are missing.
The screen is fine for webpages, but running it at 100% brightness to watch a movie, especially dark or night scenes is not worth the price given the alternatives.
Yeah it does have lower screen brightness but I use screen filter so often on my Atrix 2 to further darken the screen it's not a huge deal for me that this screen can't get super bright it would be nice of course for better visibility outside in the sun but I rarely if ever use my tablet like that but if your looking for that high level of brightness stay away very good tablet otherwise especially for the 284 I paid. The actual screen quality is very good the included HD time lapse videos in the gallery are breath taking to look at and really show off the tablets screen quality. There my go to videos when I show the tablet off to people. Its a shame a lot of the most common source of video streaming I use are so limited in quality on android that they don't do the screen justice but I can get around most of those limitations using a web browser.
Crunchyroll's android app is limited to there lowest quality sd video setting which looks ok on my Atrix 2 but really bad here. I can get around it by using a web browser to login in view the videos in Gorious 1080P and they look really nice on this tablet I actually don't mind watching anime on this over my 1080i Sony Trinitron CRT not as good blacks and overall picture quality but still it's good enough which compared to that t.v is quite a compliment. Also anime looks really sharp on this due to the high ppi and I can view it from real close. There are some compromises but it also does things better and I'm willing To make them before I really didn't like watching on any other screen feeling I was missing out in screen quality.
The YouTube app is also limited to 720p but again I use a browser to view to get around this when quality is a priority not as convenient and with plenty of high resolution tablets out even some above 1080p including Google's own nexus 10 you think Google would allow 1080p streaming if not 4K streaming through the app. Netflix app also seems to be locked at a lower bitrate and non HD and since its silver light no way to view through browser. But I think being only 4.2.2 limits me. Hopefully when the 4.4 updates comes out I can access higher video quality through the app this screen could really benefit from the all bitrate netflix could offer Super HD would look fantastic on this screen. I'm not sure if they offer that on 4.3+ android devices or if it's limited to there regular 1080p bitrate or 720p on android with even Google crippling there own YouTube app I wouldn't be surprised which is a shame.
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Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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It's plenty sharp unless you want to use it for Virtual Reality. The OP3 actually has a higher pixel per inch count than the iPhone. The pentile matrix does make it a little less sharp, but not something you will notice in normal use. I had my Nexus 5 (2013) and OP3 side by side and I could see a difference, if I held the phone at 20 cm from my face. Anywhere further than that, not at all. Also, it uses less battery than e.g. 1440p displays, which is why the battery life on the OP3 is really good.
Finally, the sRGB mode is heaven for me. Almost perfect color calibration with amoled blacks. I'll take that trade-off for pentile everyday. And if you like high saturation, just turn sRGB off and you also get a white balance slider! The choice is yours.
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Actually I do plan on using VR but it's not that big of a deal
Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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Depends on how much you use it I'd say. A friend of mine got the S7 edge with a VR headset. He used it twice in the first week he got it. Now it's gathering dust somewhere... It's mostly still a gimmick. But if you're really into it, YouTube is increasing its VR content and some games can be found on the play store.
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I care about everyday usage (being fast),normal media consumption (like watching videos or using Spotify) more than VR really and I really care about the camera
memo45 said:
Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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I have s7 edge and OP 3 both.. I don't feel OP 3 has bad display! it might not be as good as S7 edge.. but definitely it's not pathetic display. It's very good display for day to day usage..
The display on the OnePlus 3 is pretty awesome, far better than on my One M9 for example. It may not be the best on the market but it surely isn't bad and it is far from sucking, lol.
At medium or high brightness with sRGB mode the display is great. Look really closely and you can see that it isn't perfectly sharp, but it is nonetheless FHD and you shouldn't be looking at your phone with a viewing distance of 5 cm anyway. Normal viewing distances are fine.
The minimum brightness is a bit problematic: if you turn it down all the way the dark colours seem to become actual black, so it becomes harder to see things.
Calling the display trash is surely an overstatement. It's viewing angles, blacks, minimum/maximum brightness, colour accuracy, resolution and pixel density are good to excellent. It's definitely not the best display you can get, but it's far from being terrible.
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Most people say that the oneplus 3's screen is just a piece of crap...I would have bought the axon 7 if its bootloader wasn't locked and it had a better camera. So I have the iPhone 5 and even though it's a 4-inch display it's sharp enough and you can't see any pixels,so how does the pentile screen holds up because the oneplus 3 is one hell of a phone
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The people that say the display sucks are people that don't have the phone. I have a nexus 6p and OP 3 and I couldn't tell a difference between the screen resolution of both. Not even when I'm playing game. 1080p is easily rectifiable compared to 720p, 2k is not that much from 1080p unless you're looking at small text from 3 inches.
The colors on the default mode are over saturated and are a bit over the top but majority of casual users like it more. The display on sRGB is one of the best displays on the market. It's so pleasing to the eyes, it's almost 100% accurate yet the blacks are deep. My nexus 6p has almost as good display on sRGB but it has started to suffer from screen burn because of navigation bar.
I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
What do you guys think about the zte axon 7?
I think its a phone made by a chinese manufacturer that has metal in its build.
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It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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It's strange that all of you guys are saying that it's not a bad display while the whole forum is *****ing about it
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
khaos64 said:
Whole forum? Doubtful. (Seems a fair amount find it OK or better according to the real-life review section)
Personally the display is more than satisfactory. 4.5/5.
Comparing with recent phones iPhone 6/OnePlus 2 and wife's current iPhone 6s.
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IF it's better than an iphone 6 screen then I'm sold ?
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Actually I would love to do a blindfold test with any naysayers. The screen is fantastic and probably more than anyone but a heavy VR user would need. Post #2 was absolutely correct in his description.
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I have seen a review that I could actually see the pixels on oneplus 3 screen's on video,hope it's the camera he was recording with
Not at all, it's pretty good if you do some necessary tweaks. Personally, I'm using Sultan ROM with sRGB mode (Photography mode) and the following calibrations: Red 93%, Green 87%, Blue 100%, Saturation 6%, Intensity 8. It looks great, natural colors, slightly saturated so they don't look too washed, and AMOLED black. I'm quite happy, honestly.
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I have a OP3, LG G4, OPO and LG G3 that I can compare to.
Holding the phone at my normal reading distance or even slightly closer I cannot tell the difference in sharpness between the displays.
The biggest differences are colour saturation and black levels along with screen brightness. The LG G4 and G3 are very saturated and unnatural looking.
Opo with kcal calibration and op3 with sRGB look more neutral.
Min brightness on g3 is high and blacks On op3 is the best.
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So you recommend op3?
I have a g3. I don't want to give up ir blaster sd card or removable batteries. Plus glass screen protector with no issues. But night time use with that AMOLED is nice. I don't like how it doesn't have multiwindow nor one handed view like my g3.
Hopefully it gets nougat quickly. I'll see how the Pixel XL is but if it's $750+ I'm not paying double. The OP 3 is a beast. I'll only consider the Google phone if it's $600. Which it won't be so hopefully I get a OnePlus 3 without screen uniformity issue this time.
I have galaxy note5.. and I can't tell the deference side by side by sharpness.. I can only notice some changing in color. But as I use sRGB on OP3 and basic on GN5 I cant tell any difference!!
Oh maybe the dpi.. but i change it on my op3 to be like gn5...
My only concerns regarding the Realme X2 are (I've never owned a Super AMOLED phone before):
1) I'm really worried about burn-in, and the uneven pixel-wear, which will may lead to a "blotchy" and non-uniform screen in a few months.
2) Modern Super AMOLED screens use the diamond PenTile matrix, two pixels per sub-pixel, each with a green and (a red OR or a blue). For a 1080p panel, this gives a lower "effective resolution" than a 1080p LCD IPS display, it's (very roughly) 840p according to my crude maths of: ((720 R + 1080 G + 720 B) / (1080 R + 1080 G + 1080 B) * 1080). I'm worried this going to be noticeably worse (more grainy / less sharp / more pixelated) than a 1080p IPS LCD phone. Is the difference actually perceivable?
Having said that, I've noticed that on larger IPS LCD phones (6.29 inches and above), the flaws of IPS LCD become more obvious to me, such as noticeable changes in brightness (backlight intensity) between the top and bottom of the phone (even when looking at it head-on), and shadowing / backlight bleeding, and even ghosting/blurring of text when scrolling has become more noticeable.
So, are either of my points 1) and 2) actually things to be worried about on the Realme X2, or is Super AMOLED really better than LCD overall (i.e. In terms of image quality, for reading text and seeing details in photos)?
Perhaps the Realme 5 Pro (albeit with a weaker chipset) is a better choice for someone like me who's worried about the issues above?
Coming from an iPhone 8+, I can honestly say this Realme X2 is the most beautiful mobile screen I've ever watched / looked at / used. Deep blacks, bright whites, no backlight bleed, and quite energy efficient, especially when using dark theme. You choose if you want vibrant or sRGB color in settings, both look good.
Videos look amazing, regardless of whether it's a commercial (streaming / downloaded) product, or something you shot yourself on the ultra stabilized, almost gimbal like rear camera (you didn't ask, but this is an amazing camera for a phone). The screen also looks great monitoring a DJI Osmo Pocket gimbal, and monitoring flight of camera drones. I can't speak of the burn in issues, since I've only had it for a month, but I'm coming at this from the point of view that I can buy 3 or 4 of these phones for the price of a single iPhone plus model, so I simply don't care that much. If it provides me with a solid mobile platform for 1 - 2 years, I'm beyond ecstatic. and if not, oh well, interesting experiment.
In the end though, you've gotta do what is right for YOU. Nobody else can make that choice for you. I see no reason to worry about the screen, but you certainly might.
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Coming from an iPhone 8+, I can honestly say this Realme X2 is the most beautiful mobile screen I've ever watched / looked at / used. Deep blacks, bright whites, no backlight bleed, and quite energy efficient, especially when using dark theme. You choose if you want vibrant or sRGB color in settings, both look good.
Videos look amazing, regardless of whether it's a commercial (streaming / downloaded) product, or something you shot yourself on the ultra stabilized, almost gimbal like rear camera (you didn't ask, but this is an amazing camera for a phone). The screen also looks great monitoring a DJI Osmo Pocket gimbal, and monitoring flight of camera drones. I can't speak of the burn in issues, since I've only had it for a month, but I'm coming at this from the point of view that I can buy 3 or 4 of these phones for the price of a single iPhone plus model, so I simply don't care that much. If it provides me with a solid mobile platform for 1 - 2 years, I'm beyond ecstatic. and if not, oh well, interesting experiment.
In the end though, you've gotta do what is right for YOU. Nobody else can make that choice for you. I see no reason to worry about the screen, but you certainly might.
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Thank you very much for your opinion, that's good to hear, I'm glad you're enjoying it
Using an S21U daily, the phones felt light in the hand even being tethered. Personally, the flat screen and matte rails of the non pro felt and looked the best. Played with some features, but the phones were resetting into demo mode frequently. Similar shots between the Pro & S21U in Best Buy... I preferred the Pixel. Colors on both panels were great in the Adaptive mode, but looks like they lack the NITS vs the S21U. Pro did get quite warm with 10+ mins of mundane use. Best Pixel to date, by miles. Enjoy your devices in good health!
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Wanting a much brighter screen for outdoor use is the only reason I'm keeping tabs on the new pixels.
I'm coming from a pixel 3 XL and auto brightness just isn't quite enough under the bright Texas sun.
Thanks for sharing your experience vs the Samsung.