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So which NFC tags have you purchased that work well?
EDIT: Probably should've posted this in the Accessories forum. Mods - feel free to move this if it isn't Kosher.
I bought a 5-pack of the Samsung TecTiles and they work great. They allow for 1K storage which is good if you plan on putting a lot of data or things on them.
Purchased some from tag stand a while back, they come in different sizes and they work fine with the s3
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How much did you guys pay? Wondering if there's any real difference between the different brands besides size.
I got them for around $15, they came in different sizes.
something like this: http://www.tagstand.com/collections/nfc-kits/products/nfc-hobbyist-starter-kit-15-stickers
Is it just me or are the official TecTiles almost worthless?
Is seems they can each only do 1 single function and the phone needs to be unlocked to activate them.
For instance, say I have the TT programmed to connect to a specific WiFi network. This only works if WiFi is turned on and the phone isn't already locked. You can't have it:
a) Turn on WiFi first
b) Connect to a specific network.
Instead, you have to unlock phone, and turn on WiFi manually. Makes it kind of pointless to just TAP and be done with it.
Maybe its just the Samsung app, it's extremely limited. Are there better apps?
bob_ross said:
Is it just me or are the official TecTiles almost worthless?
Is seems they can each only do 1 single function and the phone needs to be unlocked to activate them.
For instance, say I have the TT programmed to connect to a specific WiFi network. This only works if WiFi is turned on and the phone isn't already locked. You can't have it:
a) Turn on WiFi first
b) Connect to a specific network.
Instead, you have to unlock phone, and turn on WiFi manually. Makes it kind of pointless to just TAP and be done with it.
Maybe its just the Samsung app, it's extremely limited. Are there better apps?
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Haven't used it yet but this sounds like what you might be looking for:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&hl=en
I got the tiles from Samsung. I'm going to use them for putting my phone into silent when I put my phone on my nightstand. I think that going with Samsung's official ones are the best.
Haven't looked too much into what can be done with tags. But, could I for instance set one up to turn on my bluetooth and pair it with my car when I get into my car? And also unpair and turn off bluetooth when I get out?
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Haven't looked too much into what can be done with tags. But, could I for instance set one up to turn on my bluetooth and pair it with my car when I get into my car? And also unpair and turn off bluetooth when I get out?
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Yes.
Citizen Snips said:
I got the tiles from Samsung. I'm going to use them for putting my phone into silent when I put my phone on my nightstand. I think that going with Samsung's official ones are the best.
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I'm not so sure about that. I've heard some of the aftermarket ones work just fine.
I got mine here http://tagsfordroid.com/tags/Home.html
10 of them plus a free key fob for $16 and fast free shipping. All of them work perfectly. I use NFC task launcher to write them
Wow, I had no clue an nfc chip could do that. So stick one in your car and program it to do certain things! That is great. I need to get some of these.
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Haven't used it yet but this sounds like what you might be looking for:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jwsoft.nfcactionlauncher&hl=en
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Awesome! That is exactly what I was looking for! You can chain many commands! Leaps and bounds beyond the official Samsung app! Thanks!
Is it possible to use my phone as a key fob for my apartment complex? Or say my workplace?
I saw the big confirmed NFC list elsewhere, but was curious of anyone has tried or knows about this.
Thanks
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This has been talked about before, no you cant, its not using the same technology. The easiest way to check this is to get the NFC reader for your phone and try to read whatever your trying to use, like a security card for the building, it will not read it and this will tell you its not the same. I had the same idea as at work I have a Prox II card to get in and around the building, tried to read it and it would not work, I checked the web and sure enough its not the same frequency or something along those lines. At this time its only good for paying at places that have the ability and messing with your own tags.
Where is the actual NFC device? Is it in the Battery?
Im curious if it's upgradable (aftermarket, of course) to add on more frequencies
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Where is the actual NFC device? Is it in the Battery?
Im curious if it's upgradable (aftermarket, of course) to add on more frequencies
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For the S3 it is in the battery as you say. So an aftermarket battery will likely not have the NFC functionality in there that you would like.
pilothaz said:
For the S3 it is in the battery as you say. So an aftermarket battery will likely not have the NFC functionality in there that you would like.
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Unless it specifies that it has a NFC chip in it. I know some do.
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Hey everyone, So I want to get an NFC chip implanted into my hand, don't ask why, ill think of a reason later.
For now I just want somebody more knowledgeable than I to tell me if this tag I am looking at [xM1 [Mifare S50 2x12mm Glass Tag]] Would be compatible with the broadcom NFC chip in my Galaxy S4 I9505?
It says on the page, " 13.56MHz ISO/IEC 14443-A Mifare S50 1K RFID chipset "
I believe there is a rule I cannot post links to pages with products for sale ?
Its from a site called dangerous things, as that's the first I found selling implantable chips..
Share with me your information please And thank you in advance!
And while im at it, Im trying to think of some cool uses for it, Is it possible to write to it something that lets me use it to pay for things ?
I have heard of people that do this..
As far as i know the broadcom nfc chip does not support the mifare protocol. You may be able to write NDEF data to it but i don't think you will be able to use the original mifare protocol.
Also i suggest you look into chips who can run you custom code like javacard
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As far as i know the broadcom nfc chip does not support the mifare protocol. You may be able to write NDEF data to it but i don't think you will be able to use the original mifare protocol.
Also i suggest you look into chips who can run you custom code like javacard
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Hmm, Alright, Thanks for that info!
Cant seem to find any non-Mifare 12x2 glass chips, so looks like ill have to wait :/
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Hmm, Alright, Thanks for that info!
Cant seem to find any non-Mifare 12x2 glass chips, so looks like ill have to wait :/
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We will have an NTAG203 based option coming to Dangerous Things soon... perhaps via a kickstarter. The NTAG203 is a NFC Type 2 compliant tag, meaning it will work with any certified NFC device or mobile phone.
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We will have an NTAG203 based option coming to Dangerous Things soon... perhaps via a kickstarter. The NTAG203 is a NFC Type 2 compliant tag, meaning it will work with any certified NFC device or mobile phone.
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I would be extremely interested in this.
Mifare Classic is a proprietary format, s4 does support mifare ultralight.
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Mach3.2 said:
Mifare Classic is a proprietary format, s4 does support mifare ultralight.
Beamed from my Maguro
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what about samsung s3?
zuluman said:
what about samsung s3?
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A quick Google search will tell you the results. If the s3 uses a NXP NFC controller, then it can read mifare classic cards, of not it will throw a error.
Beamed from my Maguro
Mach3.2 said:
Mifare Classic is a proprietary format, s4 does support mifare ultralight.
Beamed from my Maguro
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sorry duble replly
Mach3.2 said:
A quick Google search will tell you the results. If the s3 uses a NXP NFC controller, then it can read mifare classic cards, of not it will throw a error.
Beamed from my Maguro
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In other words yes.
Please don't do this. It might seem cool, but there are implications far beyond what you can possibly imagine.
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abuttino said:
Please don't do this. It might seem cool, but there are implications far beyond what you can possibly imagine.
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such as ?
God, all these NFC tags are so small. 150ish bytes? What year are we in... Hell, I read a press release about some company 2k type 4 NFC chips, but every tag I find online is a tiny ntag203... I can't even save my contact info on one of those things.
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Casen said:
God, all these NFC tags are so small. 150ish bytes? What year are we in... Hell, I read a press release about some company 2k type 4 NFC chips, but every tag I find online is a tiny ntag203... I can't even save my contact info on one of those things.
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You can get DESfire EV1 tags on eBay, 8k. But it's slow..
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I've got an implant from dangerousthings. The guy who runs it is very intelligent, very well connected to all the right people, tech, body mod, health, etc.
I've had it in for probably about a month, I got it a day before we started our trip to burning man, and even out there with so little time to heal it was fine.
I love NFC and have been writing all kinds if crazy apps that utilize it, so the tag gets a ton of use. I'm planning on getting an NFC door lock and building and NFC auto start for my car. There are soany awesome things you can do with NFC, and having a secure one on you at all times is pretty awesome.
I also have a magnet in theother hand. h
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Please don't do this. It might seem cool, but there are implications far beyond what you can possibly imagine.
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No seriously, please elaborate.
r2DoesInc said:
I've got an implant from dangerousthings. The guy who runs it is very intelligent, very well connected to all the right people, tech, body mod, health, etc.
I've had it in for probably about a month, I got it a day before we started our trip to burning man, and even out there with so little time to heal it was fine.
I love NFC and have been writing all kinds if crazy apps that utilize it, so the tag gets a ton of use. I'm planning on getting an NFC door lock and building and NFC auto start for my car. There are soany awesome things you can do with NFC, and having a secure one on you at all times is pretty awesome.
I also have a magnet in theother hand. h
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What are some uses you can come up with ?
I can't use the mifare S50 chip they sell Dx
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CountParadox said:
No seriously, please elaborate.
What are some uses you can come up with ?
I can't use the mifare S50 chip they sell Dx
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Damn. XDA cut a ton of my reply out.
So, first off, ignore the "implications" guy. I cant tell you how many times ive heard its the mark of the beast, or that its a tracking device, or that its a dna harvester, etc etc. Cant beat crazy.
Anyways, I am an app developer, look up my name on the market. I LOVE NFC, most of my newer apps use NFC in some way. I have an app called NFCSecure that locks your device unless you have the nfc tag you setup as a key. thats a pretty big one.
Also tag a hue. turns tags into light switches for hue lights. i can lay in bed, scan my tag and if my light is off, it goes on and vice versa.
My ltest app is nfcvault. uses the tag as an encryption key for passwords, pins, etc.
https://market.android.com/search?q=r2doesinc&c=apps
r2DoesInc said:
Damn. XDA cut a ton of my reply out.
So, first off, ignore the "implications" guy. I cant tell you how many times ive heard its the mark of the beast, or that its a tracking device, or that its a dna harvester, etc etc. Cant beat crazy.
Anyways, I am an app developer, look up my name on the market. I LOVE NFC, most of my newer apps use NFC in some way. I have an app called NFCSecure that locks your device unless you have the nfc tag you setup as a key. thats a pretty big one.
Also tag a hue. turns tags into light switches for hue lights. i can lay in bed, scan my tag and if my light is off, it goes on and vice versa.
My ltest app is nfcvault. uses the tag as an encryption key for passwords, pins, etc.
https://market.android.com/search?q=r2doesinc&c=apps
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haha yeah, I just wanted to hear what they had to say, xD Dont you find the stories funny ?
Oooh nice, Ill have a look see through some of your apps. They look pretty cool!
You should make one that encrypts data like images or videos or documents that requires an NFC tag to decrypt! /wouldBuy 10/10
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haha yeah, I just wanted to hear what they had to say, xD Dont you find the stories funny ?
Oooh nice, Ill have a look see through some of your apps. They look pretty cool!
You should make one that encrypts data like images or videos or documents that requires an NFC tag to decrypt! /wouldBuy 10/10
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just finished my proof of concept app for file encryption via nfc. will be rolling it into nfcvault in time.
r2DoesInc said:
I've got an implant from dangerousthings. The guy who runs it is very intelligent, very well connected to all the right people, tech, body mod, health, etc.
I've had it in for probably about a month, I got it a day before we started our trip to burning man, and even out there with so little time to heal it was fine.
I love NFC and have been writing all kinds if crazy apps that utilize it, so the tag gets a ton of use. I'm planning on getting an NFC door lock and building and NFC auto start for my car. There are soany awesome things you can do with NFC, and having a secure one on you at all times is pretty awesome.
I also have a magnet in theother hand. h
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I hope you never handle my hard drive.
I recently upgraded the battery to a 3800 mah battery. I understand that the battery does not have an imbedded nfc antenna. Will this effect the function of the google wallet app?
Thanks for your help.
Yes I believe so, need NFC to use wallet tap to pay I'm pretty sure.
I think some company does make NFC capable big ol batteries like the one you got tho.
The NFC chip is located within the battery. Without that nfc will not function.
I haven't used Gwallet for a while though so I do not know if anything has changed in regards to how it operates. I know when I used it it NEED NFC to work. Don't know if that changed
PowurPlayr said:
I recently upgraded the battery to a 3800 mah battery. I understand that the battery does not have an imbedded nfc antenna. Will this effect the function of the google wallet app?
Thanks for your help.
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Yes I believe so, need NFC to use wallet tap to pay I'm pretty sure.
I think some company does make NFC capable big ol batteries like the one you got tho.
The NFC chip is located within the battery. Without that nfc will not function.
I haven't used Gwallet for a while though so I do not know if anything has changed in regards to how it operates. I know when I used it it NEED NFC to work. Don't know if that changed
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Google has blocked the galaxy nexus from using wallet. People have been searching for a work around although none have been found yet.
I suspect the only way we may ever regain functionality is through the 3.4 kernel. It's still got a long way to go. The Devs involved in the porting process have hit a hiccup in getting the display working.
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Google has blocked the galaxy nexus from using wallet. People have been searching for a work around although none have been found yet.
I suspect the only way we may ever regain functionality is through the 3.4 kernel. It's still got a long way to go. The Devs involved in the porting process have hit a hiccup in getting the display working.
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I was wondering about this. I'm on a 4.4 Rom, but Wallet still says tap and pay is "not available". So that's a known issue?
Just curious has anyone heard of an this working. I find it a bit odd that tap and pay works with pay pal, but not with Android pay. Will that come in a future update?
No NFC on the watch, so that will not come to this watch.
Lepa79 said:
No NFC on the watch, so that will not come to this watch.
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How does pay pal tap and pay work?
ShrekOpher said:
How does pay pal tap and pay work?
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No idea. I don't use it.
ShrekOpher said:
Just curious has anyone heard of an this working. I find it a bit odd that tap and pay works with pay pal, but not with Android pay. Will that come in a future update?
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Android pay will never work, no NFC chip on board. I'm tying to find where you see paypal works? Don't be confused by paypals in application purchase and actual live tap to pay. I don't see anywhere that paypal generates bar codes which would be one way to pay in person, so if it uses NFC with this watch it's a no go as well.
Found some additional info on the paypal system. Right now only some samsung watches and pebble have the app that will allow the watch to use the low energy becons to connect with bluetooth. Only the watch is needed and does not have to be connected to a phone. This also lets us know right away some type of app will need to manage the bluetooth connection with the low energy becon, if you find a store that has one?
"When a customer walks into a retail area that is covered by a PayPal Beacon signal inside, they will receive a push notification on their smartwatch."
Actually it's been confirmed that the Huawei Watch DOES have an NFC chip, it's just not functional yet. It has also been confirmed that Android Wear 2.0 will enable that chip and therefore allow us to use Android Pay with it.
rusty.gh said:
Android pay will never work, no NFC chip on board. I'm tying to find where you see paypal works? Don't be confused by paypals in application purchase and actual live tap to pay. I don't see anywhere that paypal generates bar codes which would be one way to pay in person, so if it uses NFC with this watch it's a no go as well."
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vivelafrance said:
Actually it's been confirmed that the Huawei Watch DOES have an NFC chip, it's just not functional yet. It has also been confirmed that Android Wear 2.0 will enable that chip and therefore allow us to use Android Pay with it.
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Source?
Deeco7 said:
Source?
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http://ausdroid.net/2017/04/06/android-wear-2-0-update-huawei-watch-coming-soon/
http://www.gsmarena.com/original_hu...id_wear_20_by_the_end_of_march-blog-23937.php (bottom of the article)
it has also been discussed on PhoneArena between them and Huawei Representatives
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http://ausdroid.net/2017/04/06/android-wear-2-0-update-huawei-watch-coming-soon/
http://www.gsmarena.com/original_hu...id_wear_20_by_the_end_of_march-blog-23937.php (bottom of the article)
it has also been discussed on PhoneArena between them and Huawei Representatives
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Your first source cites your second source, so it doesn't really count. If you follow the citations of the second source (and the subsequent citations from those articles), you eventually get to an article that simply states that NFC will be enabled on watches that have it. Neither source presents credible evidence that the HW has an NFC chip.
TheSt33v said:
Your first source cites your second source, so it doesn't really count. If you follow the citations of the second source (and the subsequent citations from those articles), you eventually get to an article that simply states that NFC will be enabled on watches that have it. Neither source presents credible evidence that the HW has an NFC chip.
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can't you read english???
The Android Wear 2.0 update will bring a redesigned UI, optimized performance, Google Assistant, customizable watchfaces with Android Wear’s “complications”, and best of all, the update will enable the dormant NFC radio found in the Huawei Watch so it may be used for Android Pay.
And as I said, it's not the only source. But I'm not interested in knowing whether you believe it or not, I was just sharing something ffs
vivelafrance said:
can't you read english???
The Android Wear 2.0 update will bring a redesigned UI, optimized performance, Google Assistant, customizable watchfaces with Android Wear’s “complications”, and best of all, the update will enable the dormant NFC radio found in the Huawei Watch so it may be used for Android Pay.
And as I said, it's not the only source. But I'm not interested in knowing whether you believe it or not, I was just sharing something ffs
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Oh hey! That sounds great! They even provided a "via" link so we can see where they got their information! Let's follow that:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...-Huawei-Watch-before-the-end-of-March_id91964
Oh hey! Look at that! This source also says the HW watch has an NFC chip! And they also provide a "via" link so that we can see where they got their info! Let's follow that too:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/huawei-says-android-wear-2-0-hits-huawei-watch-march.html
Oh...wait a second. The term "NFC" only appears once in that article, and it's in this sentence: " With Android Wear 2.0, users will get access to a handful of new features that include things like Google Assistant, Play Store access so they can install apps right to the watch, and Android Pay support for those watches that have NFC." That doesn't tell us anything revolutionary now, does it?
Gasp! A retelling of a retelling of a retelling can get distorted? Who would have thought?
So in conclusion, what you are using as "evidence" that the HW has NFC are claims from two sources that claimed to have received their info from a source that doesn't mention NFC functionality in the HW specifically at all. Just that it will be enabled in watches that have the chip, which is news to no one here. Therefore, your sources do not support your claim.
Verifying sources: it's not just for scientists and students anymore.
And yes, I read English very well.
No NFC o Huawei Watch Original
vivelafrance said:
Actually it's been confirmed that the Huawei Watch DOES have an NFC chip, it's just not functional yet. It has also been confirmed that Android Wear 2.0 will enable that chip and therefore allow us to use Android Pay with it.
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Yeah, sorry, no, you read that wrong. It happens.
Would be so cool if it was true.
BTW, I've seen your responses so I'll tell you now, "I'm letting you know, I'm not asking you."
Huawei Watch micro does have NFC support but the watch itself lacks of a suitable antenna to use it (as far as I know the WiFi one can't be used for that purpose) so no... we'll never have NFC on our first generation Watch and all rumors you can find on the Net are distorted news taken from unreliable sources (or, maybe, Huawei propaganda to justify the shameful delay in releasing the final Wear 2.0 update).
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Oh hey! That sounds great! They even provided a "via" link so we can see where they got their information! Let's follow that:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...-Huawei-Watch-before-the-end-of-March_id91964
Oh hey! Look at that! This source also says the HW watch has an NFC chip! And they also provide a "via" link so that we can see where they got their info! Let's follow that too:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/huawei-says-android-wear-2-0-hits-huawei-watch-march.html
Oh...wait a second. The term "NFC" only appears once in that article, and it's in this sentence: " With Android Wear 2.0, users will get access to a handful of new features that include things like Google Assistant, Play Store access so they can install apps right to the watch, and Android Pay support for those watches that have NFC." That doesn't tell us anything revolutionary now, does it?
Gasp! A retelling of a retelling of a retelling can get distorted? Who would have thought?
So in conclusion, what you are using as "evidence" that the HW has NFC are claims from two sources that claimed to have received their info from a source that doesn't mention NFC functionality in the HW specifically at all. Just that it will be enabled in watches that have the chip, which is news to no one here. Therefore, your sources do not support your claim.
Verifying sources: it's not just for scientists and students anymore.
And yes, I read English very well.
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Actually, these people say they got the statement from Huawei direct...
Huawei confirms the original Huawei Watch has NFC and Android Pay is being tested on it
Not making any judgements on the accuracy or otherwise
Just got a answer from HuaweiGermany.. the Huawei Watch definitly don´t has NFC built-in.. so more speculations about this and Android Pay are not neccessary
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Actually, these people say they got the statement from Huawei direct...
Huawei confirms the original Huawei Watch has NFC and Android Pay is being tested on it
Not making any judgements on the accuracy or otherwise
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I'd trust that source over the ones that were presented earlier. "I heard it from Huawei" is a little more convincing than "I heard it from another article that never actually said it."
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I'd trust that source over the ones that were presented earlier. "I heard it from Huawei" is a little more convincing than "I heard it from another article that never actually said it."
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Then again, raider2k9 above, just heard from Huawei in person that there isn't any NFC. I think if there was an NFC chip in there it would definitely have come to light in the tear downs.
This should clear up any confusion - http://www.androidcentral.com/huawei-watch-nfc-nope