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which of the custom ROMs are you liking best?

I've been following the ROM dev daily but I've been stuck in the hospital and not been able to flash any of them yet.
I'm getting out today and plan on checking one out asap and am curious as to which one I should go with.
I would appreciate any feedback on them that you can provide!!

scott0 said:
I've been following the ROM dev daily but I've been stuck in the hospital and not been able to flash any of them yet.
I'm getting out today and plan on checking one out asap and am curious as to which one I should go with.
I would appreciate any feedback on them that you can provide!!
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I am still running rooted stock. One of the ROMs that had K9 Mail wouldn't work for me on Exchange 2K10. You could also look at the # of posts in each of the threads, that may ID where most of the peeps are headed.
I really wanted to say that I hope you are doing better. My phone haxoring started with a long hospital stay back during the Razor days.
I do like LG's native e-mail client. Only Samsung's e-mail client is better.

scott0 said:
I've been following the ROM dev daily but I've been stuck in the hospital and not been able to flash any of them yet.
I'm getting out today and plan on checking one out asap and am curious as to which one I should go with.
I would appreciate any feedback on them that you can provide!!
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I currently only used the Domination HD ROM, and it has its goods n bads.
the Goods:
1) Lag is virtually gone! Phone runs really smooth and fast, with almost no stuttering.
2) Some extra visual improvements, like the Roboto Fonts and ICS wallpapers included (although it didn't show up on mine for some reason)
3) ICS sounds/notifications
the Bads:
1) Video Recording (camcorder) is borked as for now. You cannot record a video, the app just freezes at 00:00:00
2) Bootup time is significantly longer (might be closer to 2-3 min bootup time) but someone said that it might be due to the deodexing of files in the phone.
3) the claimed Bravia Engine and Xloud features implemented in the ROM just cannot be seen/heard. Supposedly it is there and running, but to some, nothing looks any different than the usual HD look of the phone and the sound is no louder than default. So those 2 features either are not working or just not noticeable enough.
That's my small review on the Domination HD ROM. I might have missed something and if I did, hopefully the next person will add to it.

SnoopDawg said:
I am still running rooted stock. One of the ROMs that had K9 Mail wouldn't work for me on Exchange 2K10. You could also look at the # of posts in each of the threads, that may ID where most of the peeps are headed.
I really wanted to say that I hope you are doing better. My phone haxoring started with a long hospital stay back during the Razor days.
I do like LG's native e-mail client. Only Samsung's e-mail client is better.
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hey thanks Amigo! I hope all is well with you now as well.
I took your advice and flashed the kernalpan1c ROM and am checking it out now.
aquariuz23 said:
I currently only used the Domination HD ROM, and it has its goods n bads.
the Goods:
1) Lag is virtually gone! Phone runs really smooth and fast, with almost no stuttering.
2) Some extra visual improvements, like the Roboto Fonts and ICS wallpapers included (although it didn't show up on mine for some reason)
3) ICS sounds/notifications
the Bads:
1) Video Recording (camcorder) is borked as for now. You cannot record a video, the app just freezes at 00:00:00
2) Bootup time is significantly longer (might be closer to 2-3 min bootup time) but someone said that it might be due to the deodexing of files in the phone.
3) the claimed Bravia Engine and Xloud features implemented in the ROM just cannot be seen/heard. Supposedly it is there and running, but to some, nothing looks any different than the usual HD look of the phone and the sound is no louder than default. So those 2 features either are not working or just not noticeable enough.
That's my small review on the Domination HD ROM. I might have missed something and if I did, hopefully the next person will add to it.
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super, Thank you eh. nice. I really want to try this one too. I got the impression from following the thread that the video cam issue can't be resolved. Perhaps I read it wrong, I will go back through the posts. I too want that vid cam on this phone. But I am very curious about that Bravia engine and Xloud and if/how much they make a difference on my device.
I am liking the kernalpani1c ROM, it does seem smooth, I uninstalled the GO launcher, sticking with Zeam after comparing the 2 with the new ROM, Zeam is noticeably faster & smoother for me.
The best thing about the custom ROMs for me is I had to use Malninion's unbricking method to fix this phone several weeks ago which uses the SU640, now I am back to the proper one.
I think I'll check out that Domination ROM next.

scott0 said:
hey thanks Amigo! I hope all is well with you now as well.
I took your advice and flashed the kernalpan1c ROM and am checking it out now.
super, Thank you eh. nice. I really want to try this one too. I got the impression from following the thread that the video cam issue can't be resolved. Perhaps I read it wrong, I will go back through the posts. I too want that vid cam on this phone. But I am very curious about that Bravia engine and Xloud and if/how much they make a difference on my device.
I am liking the kernalpani1c ROM, it does seem smooth, I uninstalled the GO launcher, sticking with Zeam after comparing the 2 with the new ROM, Zeam is noticeably faster & smoother for me.
The best thing about the custom ROMs for me is I had to use Malninion's unbricking method to fix this phone several weeks ago which uses the SU640, now I am back to the proper one.
I think I'll check out that Domination ROM next.
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I might switch to kernelpanic's rom next week or so when I have the time to start fresh. I'm gonna format the /data partition so it will a be clean slate.
Well, like i've mentioned, me and some others don't really see any difference either the bravia engine or Xloud is doing to the phone. The image quality on the phone is the same, and the loudness is just as loud as stock. Shrugs, it might just be me I dont know lol. Feel free to try it and let us know what you think about it

aquariuz23 said:
I might switch to kernelpanic's rom next week or so when I have the time to start fresh. I'm gonna format the /data partition so it will a be clean slate.
Well, like i've mentioned, me and some others don't really see any difference either the bravia engine or Xloud is doing to the phone. The image quality on the phone is the same, and the loudness is just as loud as stock. Shrugs, it might just be me I dont know lol. Feel free to try it and let us know what you think about it
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I was wondering about the clean slate starting fresh myself, does that make a difference?
I went to get the other ROMs and such but noticed their instructions were different than kernalpan1c, they did not state to clear caches and wipe system, etc so I stopped there.
so a question- it's safe and correct to always do the following 2 steps when flashing any ROM
3. Format /system in Mounts and Storage
4. Then "wipe cache partition" and "advanced > wipe dalvik cache"
thanks for the inputs

aquariuz23 said:
3) the claimed Bravia Engine and Xloud features implemented in the ROM just cannot be seen/heard. Supposedly it is there and running, but to some, nothing looks any different than the usual HD look of the phone and the sound is no louder than default. So those 2 features either are not working or just not noticeable enough.
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why on earth would anybody need some st1nk'n bravia engine while there already is lg mobile engine in stock ROM? ther U go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3GSzOBuUo

scott0 said:
I was wondering about the clean slate starting fresh myself, does that make a difference?
I went to get the other ROMs and such but noticed their instructions were different than kernalpan1c, they did not state to clear caches and wipe system, etc so I stopped there.
so a question- it's safe and correct to always do the following 2 steps when flashing any ROM
3. Format /system in Mounts and Storage
4. Then "wipe cache partition" and "advanced > wipe dalvik cache"
thanks for the inputs
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So far from what I have followed, the 2 steps you've mentioned are safe to follow. The only thing they've all mentioned is: "DO NOT WIPE/FORMAT /Data Partition" Just making it big, bold and bright so you don't miss it LOL. Kernelpanic figured out that it is some kind of a glitch in CWM that causes data corruption when you wipe/format the /Data partition.
Domination's ROM also states to wipe /system and dalvik cache, it's a standard thing i'm guessing. The only reason I want to start from a clean slate is that I don't want any bugs or system clash when I flash a new ROM over an existing ROM, so I think wiping /data will be essential.
Btw, Kernelpanic has suggested that if you do need to wipe /data, to please first flash back LG's default recovery using the image you've backed up prior to flashing CWM on the phone, and then formatting the phone back to factory settings using it. When factory reset is complete (which means /data is also wiped), you can then flash back CWM and then flash the new ROM.
Hopefully this will help you decide on your steps. Again, wiping /data is not necessary at all, it's just an option that technically should be done but right now is not so safe to do. Be careful and as always, we are not responsible for a gorgeous brick on your desk lol.
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Billy Madison said:
why on earth would anybody need some st1nk'n bravia engine while there already is lg mobile engine in stock ROM? ther U go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3GSzOBuUo
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I like that commercial lol. That is very informative and interesting to watch. Very true wat you said about the Bravia engine. Tbh, like I previously mentioned, I do not see any benefit of the Bravia engine on this phone, and definitely not the Xloud feature. Thus, I'm thinking of trying another ROM that has all capabilities functioning, thus the Camcorder.
Just wondering, if you truly can replace the "visual engine (e.g. LG's engine with Bravia Engine), could that be the reason why the camcorder won't work? It's kinda weird that the camera works but the recording function doesnt.

well,
i flashed the domination ROM and it installed, I poked around and decided I needed the video camera, so shut down, booted in to CWM and flashed the other ROM, it said it installed, i rebooted it would not open, stuck on boot, so i shutdown, booted into cwm and restored the 1st ROM but now i am stuck on a boot loop and cannot access cwm.
derp.
update: flashed the su640 ROM so I am back in biz, gotta root and flash CWM.
so i guess this is a fresh flash after all!
i'm at 32% batt, superoneclick does not want to root atm , letting it charge a bit and will try to reroot.

scott0 said:
well,
i flashed the domination ROM and it installed, I poked around and decided I needed the video camera, so shut down, booted in to CWM and flashed the other ROM, it said it installed, i rebooted it would not open, stuck on boot, so i shutdown, booted into cwm and restored the 1st ROM but now i am stuck on a boot loop and cannot access cwm.
derp.
update: flashed the su640 ROM so I am back in biz, gotta root and flash CWM.
so i guess this is a fresh flash after all!
i'm at 32% batt, superoneclick does not want to root atm , letting it charge a bit and will try to reroot.
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Yeah, that's what I feared, that when flashing another ROM over existing rom and not deleting /data might give an error. Which other Rom were you attempting to flash over Domination?

aquariuz23 said:
Yeah, that's what I feared, that when flashing another ROM over existing rom and not deleting /data might give an error. Which other Rom were you attempting to flash over Domination?
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was trying to flash the RebelRom after the Domination. the switch from kernalpanic to domination went fine but the switch from Domination to Rebel FUBARed the phone, same exact steps followed. it also messes up the phone where a restore does not work then cwm is not accessible.
yup, serious issue that is not pointed out very well anywhere. the phone was ruined. in fact it's now stuck on the su640 ROM rooted but not recognized by adb so no su access, adb shell command returns a dollar sign and stalls, and the su640 wireless issue means no internet access on the phone so I can't get terminal emulator on it to move img files in to place.
ATT is sending me a replacement under the warranty.
my opinion atm on the custom CWM and the available ROMs is the ROI is not there.
The Roms don't perform any better than a rooted and debloated stocker IMO to justify the risk it takes checking them out.

scott0 said:
was trying to flash the RebelRom after the Domination. the switch from kernalpanic to domination went fine but the switch from Domination to Rebel FUBARed the phone, same exact steps followed. it also messes up the phone where a restore does not work then cwm is not accessible.
yup, serious issue that is not pointed out very well anywhere. the phone was ruined. in fact it's now stuck on the su640 ROM rooted but not recognized by adb so no su access, adb shell command returns a dollar sign and stalls, and the su640 wireless issue means no internet access on the phone so I can't get terminal emulator on it to move img files in to place.
ATT is sending me a replacement under the warranty.
my opinion atm on the custom CWM and the available ROMs is the ROI is not there.
The Roms don't perform any better than a rooted and debloated stocker IMO to justify the risk it takes checking them out.
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Damn, seems like there is still some figuring out to do. A lot of the troubles keep pointing to CWM. What did you tell AT&T to get them to send you a warranted phone?

Kaiser_Beef said:
Damn, seems like there is still some figuring out to do. A lot of the troubles keep pointing to CWM. What did you tell AT&T to get them to send you a warranted phone?
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i told them the phone was stuck on the LG boot screen and it would not turn off entirely. if I hold the power button down long enough the screen would flash off but it would instantly reboot itself again. the phone did finally fully boot to the su640 ROM but no data/internet access. then they had me do a factory reset which failed as well, after the reset the phone would still boot to main screen instead of to the setup screen.
It was a long telephone call. but ultimately I was transferred to the warranty dept, the 1st tech agent filled that warranty person in who then just checked a cople things and then agreed to ship me a replacement expedited, scheduled delivery is Monday.

scott0 said:
was trying to flash the RebelRom after the Domination. the switch from kernalpanic to domination went fine but the switch from Domination to Rebel FUBARed the phone, same exact steps followed. it also messes up the phone where a restore does not work then cwm is not accessible.
yup, serious issue that is not pointed out very well anywhere. the phone was ruined. in fact it's now stuck on the su640 ROM rooted but not recognized by adb so no su access, adb shell command returns a dollar sign and stalls, and the su640 wireless issue means no internet access on the phone so I can't get terminal emulator on it to move img files in to place.
ATT is sending me a replacement under the warranty.
my opinion atm on the custom CWM and the available ROMs is the ROI is not there.
The Roms don't perform any better than a rooted and debloated stocker IMO to justify the risk it takes checking them out.
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So out of all the 3 ROMs you've tried which one did you like the most? Well, of course the rebelrom doesn't count cuz it borked your phone lol. Sorry to hear that though. I had this bad feeling when you mentioned that it froze after flashing that you flashed rebelrom, and yup that's what you did lol. Didn't you read through the thread though? Many of them got stuck in boot loops and not being able to recover after it.

yes, of course I read through the thread. I had the time to read through all the threads many times and did, even jotted notes down. I was fully aware of the risks involved and don't recall *****ing. I am patiently awaiting my replacement phone generously provided by ATT.
my conclusion was that none of the ROMs are worth the risk. The first one doesn't perform any better than a stock phone debloated + a better launcher, the second one has a very long boot time, then performs no better than a debloated stocker minus the video recorder.

scott0 said:
my conclusion was that none of the ROMs are worth the risk. The first one doesn't perform any better than a stock phone debloated + a better launcher, the second one has a very long boot time, then performs no better than a debloated stocker minus the video recorder.
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I will say upfront to anyone looking at using my ROM, it is a de-odexed ROM minus bloat, a better launcher, some optimizations (ie ICS app process and system server, build.prop tweaks), and the carrier text removed from the status bar. With that said, de-odexed does run smoother than stock (odexed). CF-Bench scores are for example higher on my ROM than on stock.
We're not going to see dramatic speed improvements past that without custom kernels or CM/AOSP.

scott0 said:
yes, of course I read through the thread. I had the time to read through all the threads many times and did, even jotted notes down. I was fully aware of the risks involved and don't recall *****ing. I am patiently awaiting my replacement phone generously provided by ATT.
my conclusion was that none of the ROMs are worth the risk. The first one doesn't perform any better than a stock phone debloated + a better launcher, the second one has a very long boot time, then performs no better than a debloated stocker minus the video recorder.
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lol scott, I never said anywhere that you were *****ing about bricking. I was just wondering why try when you know you have 80% of bricking? But anyways, it's great that you are getting a replacement from AT&T.

[Q] Some questions on rooting and flashing a new rom

OK, so my AT&T Note 2 is almost here (FedEx tried to deliver it ye3sterday when I was at work) so I want to make sure I am ready when it gets here. So some questions:
1 I downloaded Odin and understand how to root the phone but where do I get the file to use with Odin to do the rooting?
2 After rooting, what program do I use to flash a new rom?
3 Is there a sticky thread somewhere with this information that I could read?
4 Is there a good program to import all of my contacts from my old Windows phone? I'm not sure what format they are stored in so that is why I mention that it is a Windows phone.
5 (opinion) What is the best rom for an AT&T Note 2? I plan on adding lots of applications later and I really don't like re-installing things often so I'll probably stick with whichever rom I choose for quite a while.

rogerbacon50 said:
OK, so my AT&T Note 2 is almost here (FedEx tried to deliver it ye3sterday when I was at work) so I want to make sure I am ready when it gets here. So some questions:
1 I downloaded Odin and understand how to root the phone but where do I get the file to use with Odin to do the rooting?
2 After rooting, what program do I use to flash a new rom?
3 Is there a sticky thread somewhere with this information that I could read?
4 Is there a good program to import all of my contacts from my old Windows phone? I'm not sure what format they are stored in so that is why I mention that it is a Windows phone.
5 (opinion) What is the best rom for an AT&T Note 2? I plan on adding lots of applications later and I really don't like re-installing things often so I'll probably stick with whichever rom I choose for quite a while.
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1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297 - Does not require Odin to root. Just save to your phone, make sure Unknown Sources is checked in your phone's settings, run the file to install, run the app, make sure the exploit boxes underneath the "root" section are unchecked, then select root.
2: Download GooManager from the Play Store and run it. In menu, select Install OpenRecoveryScript. Follow the prompts, and it will download and install TWRP (custom recovery) for you. It will ask to reboot.
3: Simply do a search at the top of the forum.
4: Try Samsung Kies first. It should transfer all your contacts from most devices. Do this before installing a new ROM. Then make sure the contacts are saved to GMail's contacts.
5: It depends on preference. Each one have their own features and functionality, and varies on the version of Android it's using. I would research each one and see what entices you if I were you. Some ROMs may even have features of certain apps that you like built-in, enhancing the phone's performance due to the fact that it doesn't require an extra app to do what you want it to do. Most ROMs won't require you to "reinstall" things with each update of the ROM if you're just doing an update.

BlackPhantomX said:
1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050297 - Does not require Odin to root. Just save to your phone, make sure Unknown Sources is checked in your phone's settings, run the file to install, run the app, make sure the exploit boxes underneath the "root" section are unchecked, then select root.
2: Download GooManager from the Play Store and run it. In menu, select Install OpenRecoveryScript. Follow the prompts, and it will download and install TWRP (custom recovery) for you. It will ask to reboot.
3: Simply do a search at the top of the forum.
4: Try Samsung Kies first. It should transfer all your contacts from most devices. Do this before installing a new ROM. Then make sure the contacts are saved to GMail's contacts.
5: It depends on preference. Each one have their own features and functionality, and varies on the version of Android it's using. I would research each one and see what entices you if I were you. Some ROMs may even have features of certain apps that you like built-in, enhancing the phone's performance due to the fact that it doesn't require an extra app to do what you want it to do. Most ROMs won't require you to "reinstall" things with each update of the ROM if you're just doing an update.
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Thanks.
Maybe I'm making this harder than it needs to be. Looking at some of the roms I notice that some of them say "rooted". If I plan to flash a rooted rom do I have to root first? I assume no, but I thought I should ask.
But to install TWRP I think it has to be rooted and if I use TWRP to flash roms then I guess I'd have to be rooted first even if the rom being flashed is rooted. Now I've confused myself again. I really don't want to turn my $700 phone into a brick by screwing up.

rogerbacon50 said:
Thanks.
Maybe I'm making this harder than it needs to be. Looking at some of the roms I notice that some of them say "rooted". If I plan to flash a rooted rom do I have to root first? I assume no, but I thought I should ask.
But to install TWRP I think it has to be rooted and if I use TWRP to flash roms then I guess I'd have to be rooted first even if the rom being flashed is rooted. Now I've confused myself again. I really don't want to turn my $700 phone into a brick by screwing up.
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Custom ROMs always require root because it relies on a custom recovery such as TWRP and CWM. So, in short, unless you want to stay stock, you need to root.

This post should help to greatly simplify things for you. (4th post in the thread) Instructions are referring to the jedi rom but they will work for almost any other rom. I am on clean rom and have tried several others. Everything works great on clean rom. My advice would be to download all the ones you want to try, flash them and try each one for a day or two until you figure out which you like the best, then get your phone set up how you want on that rom. Once you get the one you like perfect, make a nandroid backup and then you can always flash any new roms you want to try and if they don't work for you, you can flash your backup and not have to worry about setting everything up on your phone all over again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35726061
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda app-developers app

Trust me, the phone is absolutely worth the wait and the money! Also like he said earlier, every ROM is different and my favorite won't necessarily be your favorite, but if you like the look of Stock, I use Jedix8 which has great battery life and performance and some cool extra features. CleanRom also has a great reputation and I'll probably give it a go soon just to see what it's like. PM me if you have other questions or anything at all

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Custom ROMs always require root because it relies on a custom recovery such as TWRP and CWM. So, in short, unless you want to stay stock, you need to root.
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topshelf95 said:
This post should help to greatly simplify things for you. (4th post in the thread) Instructions are referring to the jedi rom but they will work for almost any other rom. I am on clean rom and have tried several others.
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I use Jedix8 which has great battery life and performance and some cool extra features. CleanRom also has a great reputation and I'll probably give it a go soon just to see what it's like. PM me if you have other questions or anything at all
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Thanks all. I think I have it all figured out (and thanks to FedEx's stupid delivery policies I've had 3 extra days to think about it).
I have downloaded Odin and a rooted img file from http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-easiest-method
It will root and install CWM (although I think I would prefer TWRP from what I've rad.
I've doanloaded both the CleanRom for AT&T and the Jedi roms and will try those out. I think once I get the phone rooted and with hte custom recovery on it the actual flashing of new roms will be comparatively easy.

Well, I got my phone last night and charged it. Today I was able to root it, install TWRP, and flass CleanRom all in under an hour. Thanks to all those who offered help. The only issue I had/have is a lack of internet wit hdefault WAP settings: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37478407
I've gotten around it using the Cingular settings but download speed is only 1.9MB. That's OK for now as I consider my options: live with it or talk to AT&T and see is something can be done without losing my unlimited plan.
Overall , this was an easy process thanks to the large databse of information here and friendly helpful people. I would encourage anyone who is thinking of doing this to proceed. It is easy once you start.

How is your Nexus 5x experience with custom ROM/kernel vs. full Stock?

Wasn't sure if this would fit better under Q&A, but wanted to get the opinions of my fellow Nexus 5x users who spent some time with stock, unrooted, locked bootloader and then switched to the custom scene and learn just how much better (or worse) the experience was.
I haven't been in the mod game as much since my Galaxy Nexus and Motorola Droid days, when one click root/unlock, custom recovery, flash ROM and flash kernel all took just a few minutes. The guides for the 5x seem a bit more intimidating, especially when it comes to having all the right ingredients to keep Android Pay working. People seem to be saying some really great things about the Cataclysm+ElementalX combo, as well as other ROMs and kernels.
Anyway, before I dive in to the land of full data wipes and avoiding bootloops, I wanted to ask Nexus 5x nation - how's your custom experience, and was it worth it?

I'm using Cataclysm+ElementalX and this
Awesome battery life and screen on time and still very smooth.

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I'm using Cataclysm+ElementalX and this
Awesome battery life and screen on time and still very smooth.
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That's the route I would be looking to take, I think. Response has been great for the interactive governor mods. Was the whole process (unlock, systemless root, ROM/kernel install) pretty easy, or did you run into a lot of issues? Also, Android Pay still working?

Moonboots said:
That's the route I would be looking to take, I think. Response has been great for the interactive governor mods. Was the whole process (unlock, systemless root, ROM/kernel install) pretty easy, or did you run into a lot of issues? Also, Android Pay still working?
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Fairly easy yes, I followed Heisenbergs guide , but if you want a more automated way you could try Wugfresh Toolkit, The systemless root is basically has the sam install process (flashable zip) and ElementalX doesn't conflict with system partition so Android pay should work. And, I don't use Android Pay as my country doesn't have (or maybe) Google Play yet. Didn't stumble to any issues at all.

Moonboots said:
That's the route I would be looking to take, I think. Response has been great for the interactive governor mods. Was the whole process (unlock, systemless root, ROM/kernel install) pretty easy, or did you run into a lot of issues? Also, Android Pay still working?
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Unlock, Systemless root, ROM/Kernel is extremely easy. That's why I love Nexus Devices. You'll be able to do it in your sleep after the first couple of times. No issues should arise as long as you do everything in the correct order. Android Pay still works with Systemless Root, again, as long as you follow directions.
I'm running Ubermallow and Phasma Kernel, and after trying many different kernels and a few different ROMs, this is definitely my favorite combination. Fast, extremely optimized, just the right amount of customization and Phasma is one of the most feature-rich kernels out there for this phone. Feel free to experiment, though. Everyone has different tastes and usage patterns. So what works for me, may not necessarily be for you. Luckily flashing new ROMs and kernels takes 5 like minutes so you can give them all a shot!
I can safely say that you'll never want to go back to stock after finding the combination that works for you

Thanks for the thoughts and encouragement, all! I do recall the flashing addiction from the old Moto Droid days with Bugless Beast, AOKP and CyanogenMod. Good to know there are some great options here.
Another question I had regarding upgrading to new versions. When 6.0.2 drops, or one of the monthly security updates, etc., it used to just be a dirty flash over the current ROM, clear dalvik/cache, and reboot system. Am I correct in saying it's more involved this time around? The guides seem to point to a lot more steps for your basic ROM upgrades.

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Another question I had regarding upgrading to new versions. When 6.0.2 drops, or one of the monthly security updates, etc., it used to just be a dirty flash over the current ROM, clear dalvik/cache, and reboot system. Am I correct in saying it's more involved this time around? The guides seem to point to a lot more steps for your basic ROM upgrades.
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This was my first phone that I modified, mainly because I use Linux, and my old phones seems to need Windows to do anything. I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206930. It worked perfectly, and when I needed to apply the update, I followed step 10 of that guide; worked perfectly, with no loss of data or settings at all.
Then, I flashed Cataclysm over that update, without erasing anything other than cache, and when I finished and rebooted, I thought it didn't work until I checked settings and found the rom's single entry for settings. Nothing else changed.

Moonboots said:
Thanks for the thoughts and encouragement, all! I do recall the flashing addiction from the old Moto Droid days with Bugless Beast, AOKP and CyanogenMod. Good to know there are some great options here.
Another question I had regarding upgrading to new versions. When 6.0.2 drops, or one of the monthly security updates, etc., it used to just be a dirty flash over the current ROM, clear dalvik/cache, and reboot system. Am I correct in saying it's more involved this time around? The guides seem to point to a lot more steps for your basic ROM upgrades.
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Rom upgrades are easy.
Download the factory image and extract boot.img, system.img, and vendor.img.
Then, run the following:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash vendor vendor.img
Then reboot into TWRP and flash SuperSu again.
Then wipe cache/dalvik and reboot into system.

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Rom upgrades are easy.
Download the factory image and extract boot.img, system.img, and vendor.img.
Then, run the following:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash vendor vendor.img
Then reboot into TWRP and flash SuperSu again.
Then wipe cache/dalvik and reboot into system.
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I assume fastboot flash radio radio.img if a new radio is included with the update, as well?
After reading through all the awesome resources and recommendations provided by you guys, I think I will unlock, root, install TWRP, decrypt, flash Elemental X, and toy with the interactive governor settings thread that's in the general forum.
That way I can keep Android Pay with systemless root and continue to stay up to date on the latest factory images using Tomyk's note above, is that correct?

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I assume fastboot flash radio radio.img if a new radio is included with the update, as well?
After reading through all the awesome resources and recommendations provided by you guys, I think I will unlock, root, install TWRP, decrypt, flash Elemental X, and toy with the interactive governor settings thread that's in the general forum.
That way I can keep Android Pay with systemless root and continue to stay up to date on the latest factory images using Tomyk's note above, is that correct?
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You are correct on the radio.img comment
I personally didn't go the systemless route but I think you're on the right track. I know that a lot of people in other forums have successfully kept Android Pay capabilities after everything so you may want to do a bit more digging. If i find the answer I'll post it for you.

Just as a counter point, stock is working well for me and I feel no need to root at this time. Performance and battery life are already top notch. :good:

N5x, EX kernel, unencrypted, systemless root:
much better performance (both due to EKm and no encryption, and to a lesser extent adaway), worse battery life due to issues with nlpcollectorwakelock from Google play services, which may or may not be related to the rom (Didn't have issues with googleplayservices on stock)
just flashed xposed in an effort to curb these wakelocks by means of Amplify.

2x4 said:
N5x, EX kernel, unencrypted, systemless root:
much better performance (both due to EKm and no encryption, and to a lesser extent adaway), worse battery life due to issues with nlpcollectorwakelock from Google play services, which may or may not be related to the rom (Didn't have issues with googleplayservices on stock)
just flashed xposed in an effort to curb these wakelocks by means of Amplify.
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I've been having problems with Google Play Services battery drain. Since I still haven't taken the leap to unlock and root, I have no way of pinning the wake locks to nlpcollector but that could be my culprit too.
See attached pictures - This happens once every few weeks overnight, and I usually clear apps from memory before going to bed. So much for doze.

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I've been having problems with Google Play Services battery drain. Since I still haven't taken the leap to unlock and root, I have no way of pinning the wake locks to nlpcollector but that could be my culprit too.
See attached pictures - This happens once every few weeks overnight, and I usually clear apps from memory before going to bed. So much for doze.
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it gives me some relief to see that, since that means it's not related to my custom rom, but instead your run of the mill google play services issues..... so hopefully an update to GPS will fix that soon.

2x4 said:
it gives me some relief to see that, since that means it's not related to my custom rom, but instead your run of the mill google play services issues..... so hopefully an update to GPS will fix that soon.
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Play Services goes through weird phases where it just destroys your battery, and without something like amplify to curb the frequent wakelocks, there's no way around it for the average user. It's a shame.

2x4 said:
it gives me some relief to see that, since that means it's not related to my custom rom, but instead your run of the mill google play services issues..... so hopefully an update to GPS will fix that soon.
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FYI - it may have been a recent Snapchat update that made that app even worse than normal. Uninstalled it and smoothness and long battery have returned.

Moonboots said:
FYI - it may have been a recent Snapchat update that made that app even worse than normal. Uninstalled it and smoothness and long battery have returned.
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Thanks for the heads up, I don't have snap chat installed though

TWRP Help

It's been awhile since I've been on any Android forum. But recently I got a Redmi Note 8, and I looked up the whole process on Unlocking, Unlocking the Bootloader, and Rooting. I usually use a Galaxy phone and due to certain features possible being unusable, I refrain some doing any type of mod to it. SO i was excited to mod the gingko. I followed all the steps on the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-unlocking-bootloader-twrp-rooting-t4031831
Did everything succesfully, although I cant get the phone to pass ctsProfile in Magisk, but thats another unrelated problem. Anyway, I am new to using TWRP, previous phones I used to flash mods used CWM so I'm bit unfamiliar with TWRP troubleshooting. I tried searching for this already but couldnt find anything. Im tying to create a backup but whenever it tried to backup the system image, it fails. I tried backing up the boot, data, and system image. System Image fails. I tried backing up all partitions and it still fails on the System Image. I'm excited to flash the roms on here but dont want to revert to full stock everytime something comes up and have to re-configure the phone. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

im like you, im used to flashing samsungs htc's etc, seems like new phone roms are different, to say marshmallow lollipop kitkat etc, im reluctant as you
i used to backup in twrp, system,data(excl storage)cache,boot,modem,efs, now its all different, i have found no definitive answer as to what to backup and not, i read destroyed system etc bricked etc etc, i have never bricked a device, but this new system confuses me, no do's or dont's, or this will happen... it would be nice to have, dont so this or x will happen, flashing homebrew vs xiaomi roms, this will happen, do this for homebrew, this for xiaomi roms seem convoluted compared to the past.

bluefender said:
im like you, im used to flashing samsungs htc's etc, seems like new phone roms are different, to say marshmallow lollipop kitkat etc, im reluctant as you
i used to backup in twrp, system,data(excl storage)cache,boot,modem,efs, now its all different, i have found no definitive answer as to what to backup and not, i read destroyed system etc bricked etc etc, i have never bricked a device, but this new system confuses me, no do's or dont's, or this will happen... it would be nice to have, dont so this or x will happen, flashing homebrew vs xiaomi roms, this will happen, do this for homebrew, this for xiaomi roms seem convoluted compared to the past.
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I definitely believe the earlier days were easier. This was back during the GingerBread days, then HoneyComb was skipped by my device at the time and ICS became the big bad boy on the playground. Less security measures, easier exploits, etc. A lot of stuff has remain the same. I think the hardest part with Xiaomi was waiting the 168 hours to unlock the phone.
Also I think I answered my original question. i had my backup set to go to the sd card and when I changed it to internal storage, it finally backed up all. I did a little research and from what I saw you should be backing up boot, data, and system. I saw system image and not system so I was confused. Looked up a couple more things and just like backing up a computer, it doesnt hurt to backup everything. So I backed up every single partition.
I also know I can backup using adb, just wanna make sure I have a backup on my phone in case I'm nowhere near my computer. 1 backup on phone, 1 backup on computer. Not really worried about bricking my little gingko since it's not the actual phone I used.

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It's been awhile since I've been on any Android forum. But recently I got a Redmi Note 8, and I looked up the whole process on Unlocking, Unlocking the Bootloader, and Rooting. I usually use a Galaxy phone and due to certain features possible being unusable, I refrain some doing any type of mod to it. SO i was excited to mod the gingko. I followed all the steps on the guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...de-unlocking-bootloader-twrp-rooting-t4031831
Did everything succesfully, although I cant get the phone to pass ctsProfile in Magisk, but thats another unrelated problem. Anyway, I am new to using TWRP, previous phones I used to flash mods used CWM so I'm bit unfamiliar with TWRP troubleshooting. I tried searching for this already but couldnt find anything. Im tying to create a backup but whenever it tried to backup the system image, it fails. I tried backing up the boot, data, and system image. System Image fails. I tried backing up all partitions and it still fails on the System Image. I'm excited to flash the roms on here but dont want to revert to full stock everytime something comes up and have to re-configure the phone. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Oh man, CWM recovery, the good old days lol
Which TWRP version are you using? Official? Try unofficial one https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ecovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3997267
If still no luck, try PB recovery or OrangeFox, its based on TWRP with theme and more features.
I suggest you join telegram channel, its more active
t.me/rn8discussions
t.me/rn8updates

haha cwm vs twrp tried both over the years, different phones etc, twrp imho had a better interface, and updates..but it had one glitch, sometimes on versions it would not save region and time, but thats all the by and by now, i assume..we have orangefox now, nad has that fixed the time error?
im still reluctant to root my note 8t, probably sell it, as it has not led notification sadly, probably get the note 8 pro.

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Oh man, CWM recovery, the good old days lol
Which TWRP version are you using? Official? Try unofficial one https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ecovery-unofficial-twrp-xiaomi-redmi-t3997267
If still no luck, try PB recovery or OrangeFox, its based on TWRP with theme and more features.
I suggest you join telegram channel, its more active
t.me/rn8discussions
t.me/rn8updates
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I was using the official one, I think its version 3.3.1.0 or something like that. I think I'm gonna try the unofficial cause I want to flash CrDroid. Seems like the ROM which the least amount of issues but I'll probably flash a new rom every week to see which one is best.
Telegram? Is that like discord? I'll have to look more into this. But yeah good old CWM days. I think the last time I did any flashing was back in like 2013-14.

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I was using the official one, I think its version 3.3.1.0 or something like that. I think I'm gonna try the unofficial cause I want to flash CrDroid. Seems like the ROM which the least amount of issues but I'll probably flash a new rom every week to see which one is best.
Telegram? Is that like discord? I'll have to look more into this. But yeah good old CWM days. I think the last time I did any flashing was back in like 2013-14.
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Unoffical one is 3.3.1.10, just give it a try.
Yeah, like a discord, messanger app basicly.
There is custom roms and kernel which you can only find in telegram group
Oh, every Android 10 custom rom had issue with camera. Yellow tint and aux camera. So, if camera is important to you just stick in miui roms for the moment, xiaomi eu for example.
But, if you just want some adventure for your phone, go for it. Try GSI too, there is alot of it.

arshy said:
Unoffical one is 3.3.1.10, just give it a try.
Yeah, like a discord, messanger app basicly.
There is custom roms and kernel which you can only find in telegram group
Oh, every Android 10 custom rom had issue with camera. Yellow tint and aux camera. So, if camera is important to you just stick in miui roms for the moment, xiaomi eu for example.
But, if you just want some adventure for your phone, go for it. Try GSI too, there is alot of it.
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Camera isnt a big deal. I've seen that all AOSP roms have that camera issues from reading the reads. Kinda sucky for people that want to use daily drivers.

Question Testing roms on p6p

I've had my pixel for some time and still don't fully understand how to test roms on the phone - more specifically how to backup/restore. (I have always used twrp in the past).
Currently I am on the stock rom - I would like to try ricedroid , lineage and possibly go back to stock . I have no issues installing roms, what is unclear is what/how has to be backed up ( i have neo installed) and how to go back to a previous rom ,retaining data. Is it even possible?
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks

Hmm - guess the lack of any response indicates that either my question is too stupid to bother replying to or that there is no simple way to test roms on this device.

I'm not sure of the question in general or how to answer it. I just normally just flash robs and then I will go back and reinstall all my apps again

I guess my question might be confusing.
I have always tested in a twrp environment. Things were simple - do a nandroid backup to an external device and test away. If I ever wanted to go back I would restore the backup in 3 simple steps.
In comparison testing on a pixel is a multistep process which leaves a lot of margin for error. All I was trying to determine is if there is a simpler way of going about it.

StanWiz said:
I guess my question might be confusing.
I have always tested in a twrp environment. Things were simple - do a nandroid backup to an external device and test away. If I ever wanted to go back I would restore the backup in 3 simple steps.
In comparison testing on a pixel is a multistep process which leaves a lot of margin for error. All I was trying to determine is if there is a simpler way of going about it.
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Unfortunately, the old days of nandroid backups are gone. I use swift and google one to backup my data and apps. I clean flash every new rom and restore data. it definitely takes longer than restoring a nandroid backup.

I do know that someone was working on TWRP at some point no ETA with that coming out.

Did someone say TWRP? I'm hopeful that once Android 13 TWRP comes out someone will port it to 6 pro. As for your question, there's no easy way to restore a back up. You have to install everything from scratch most of the time unless you dirty flash a ROM.

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........ You have to install everything from scratch most of the time unless you dirty flash a ROM.
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Sadly I've arrived at that same conclusion - hence this post (hoping). I don't think I'll be testing too many roms on the p6p. I would like to replace the stock rom - now it's a matter of deciding which rom suits my needs best and will be updated for the foreseeable future.
\Ricedroid and lineage are the 2 I've narrowed it down to.
Thanks

StanWiz said:
Sadly I've arrived at that same conclusion - hence this post (hoping). I don't think I'll be testing too many roms on the p6p. I would like to replace the stock rom - now it's a matter of deciding which rom suits my needs best and will be updated for the foreseeable future.
\Ricedroid and lineage are the 2 I've narrowed it down to.
Thanks
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I'd suggest you check CrDroid if you haven't had a look at It yet. You can also load GSI if you don't want to flash everything all the time but support is limited and it may or may not work. Until TWRP is out, our options are limited