Question My opinion on Vivo x80 Pro - Vivo X80 Pro

I just got a deal (589 Euro) & bought Vivo x80 Pro 12/256 Gb, new, full box. Mine is global with FuntouchOS & SnapDragon processor.
Beautifull phone. Very nice design. Is a little slippery.
The phone have protecion on the screen from factory. I don't like curved screen. At all ! But i can live with it.
Comming from Oneplus (since 2015) i was afraid of difference of OS. But Funtouch have all those gestures/features that i like on OxygenOS.
Phone have a lot of bloatware. I uninstalled almost all of them. remaining 2, 3 i force stop & disabled.
The camera is considerably better than Oneplus.
Funtouch OS 13 works fine for me. I was nervous about bluetooth on A13. On Oxygen 13 not working. But on Vivo works fine.
I want to buy a 50w Vivo wireless charger, to save usb port.
Before this Vivo x80 Pro i use 8, 9 days a Samsung s22 Ultra, european (Exynos creap). S22 is a little puke, garbage compared to x80! The internet was full of horrible advertising. I try dns.adguard.com, Adaway, Blokada, nextdns. With any of these internet was a nightmare ! Slow like a 2010 phone. Bleah !!! Why the hell this garbage costs 1200 euro?..

Honestly, the x80 pro with Dim9000 and origin os is the best phone I've ever had. Why?
- best camera I've ever had
- incredible charging time
- no battery drain at all (I'm getting nearly 2 days out of the battery: reddit, messenger, camera, youtube, web browsing, stock monitoring, podcasts - I'm not a hardcore user)
- bloatware is removable
- fast as oneplus
- chinese version with call recording function
I've never been keen on notifications all day - it's me having the control when to look at the phone, do not want to get disturbed the whole day with notification pop-ups. I have never used google car or hey google commands. All issues have been tackled by Vivo. The only thing what makes me nervous: it's chinese hardware... let's see where politics head the next years.
Before you buy a Vivo, you need to be interested in getting to know the settings in detail - you need to understand the energy saving settings and other stuff, so Vivo is not working like an iPhone "out of the box" - but this is also a great opportunity to learn more about the operating system...
Phone history:
Samsung S2
Samsung Note 4
iPhone 6
iPhone 6s
Oneplus 5/iPhone 11
Vivo x80 pro
-> After Oneplus and Vivo I will never go back to Samsung. Worse than iPhone.

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Redmi Note 8 Indian unit - Plz help - Redmi Note 8 vs Realme 3 pro

Friends - If you already got delivery from amazon or bought from mi store in India. Please help with following details:
1) LCD Panel - Tianma or something else. https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8/help/redmi-note-8-tianma-lcd-panel-t3991425
2) 48 MB - Samsung GM1 or GM2
3) LT FDD and TDD bands supported. 4G+ working? Now is call quality, signal strength, speed?
4) If anyone of you have a realme 3 pro or 5 pro handy, try to compare on Point 3 above.
5) Speaker quality?
6) Fingerprint speed. If you have used RN7pro or realme 3 pro or Realme 5 pro, it may seem slow. That is what I understood from some video reviews on youtube.
Plz help. Nitpicking but very confused between Redmi Note 8 and Realme 3 pro. Ordered both at same price.
Will accept one and cancel another order.
RN8 pros over RM3Pro - Type C, Led Notification, Cameras?, Ir Blaster, MiUI (not a fan, but better than color os)
RM3Pro over RN8 - Processor (Huge difference. SD710 is way ahead. Better ISP, Better core and speed, Better AI, Better LTE (X15). SD665 pubg options are very low ), Better call and network quality (I heard), Vooc Charger.
What do you suggest.
Someone help here with some insights please.
Go with realme 3 pro and flash custom rom processor is important in long run also you can get better software experience with custom Roms what else can one want?
mohitdabas07 said:
Go with realme 3 pro and flash custom rom processor is important in long run also you can get better software experience with custom Roms what else can one want?
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Custom Rom support on 3 pro is not that good. Still no official and stable roms. Multiple bugs. I have researched. I have been using custom roms for 5 years now Moto G1 and then Lenovo Z2 plus.
I consoled myself to adjust with Color OS also as SD 710 at this price is gr8 deal but color os specially on realme 3 pro has serious standby and battery drain issues it seems.
Except processor everything seems better on RN8.
SD665 is in a way downgrade from SD660 than an upgrade.
saurav_k said:
Custom Rom support on 3 pro is not that good. Still no official and stable roms. Multiple bugs. I have researched. I have been using custom roms for 5 years now Moto G1 and then Lenovo Z2 plus.
I consoled myself to adjust with Color OS also as SD 710 at this price is gr8 deal but color os specially on realme 3 pro has serious standby and battery drain issues it seems.
Except processor everything seems better on RN8.
SD665 is in a way downgrade from SD660 than an upgrade.
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If I were you I would have gone with redmi note 7 pro which is at 12k (Sony imx 586 is beast) now but if you don't want that then you should wait for redmi note 9 as their odd no series is much better like redmi note 3,5,7 etc
And if you can't wait for it then gsi's can be installed on realme 3 pro and currently rom development hasn't taken pace for redmi note 8 too so I think little wait should be better.
One more thing realme launches devices more frequently and realme 6 box has came in leaks so whenever realme 6 pro launches you can get realme 5 pro in 10k (which will hardly take 6 months)
Conclusion : little patience and wait will be better if you don't need new device urgently
mohitdabas07 said:
If I were you I would have gone with redmi note 7 pro which is at 12k (Sony imx 586 is beast) now but if you don't want that then you should wait for redmi note 9 as their odd no series is much better like redmi note 3,5,7 etc
And if you can't wait for it then gsi's can be installed on realme 3 pro and currently rom development hasn't taken pace for redmi note 8 too so I think little wait should be better.
One more thing realme launches devices more frequently and realme 6 box has came in leaks so whenever realme 6 pro launches you can get realme 5 pro in 10k (which will hardly take 6 months)
Conclusion : little patience and wait will be better if you don't need new device urgently
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It is urgent. Sold my Lenovo Z2 plus on cashify. Battery would have died any day.
Using a freind's old phone temporarily.
Ordered both Realme 3 pro and Redmi note 8 at 9k. Have to settle with one of these for now.
Did lot of research. Not a single satisfactory phone in midrange without any flaws
So decided to go for less price for now and upgrade later after 1 year maybe.
Then go with realme 3 pro if can bear color os or can flash gsi (phusson sir's gsi's are pretty stable though) . And realme is working on more stock like rom too this is more bang for buck now. Faster charging and faster processor are the things you will notice in day to day life more rather than type c port and for camera gcam will do the job on both so you don't have to worry about cameras as both have capable sensors too
saurav_k said:
Friends - If you already got delivery from amazon or bought from mi store in India. Please help with following details:
1) LCD Panel - Tianma or something else. https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-8/help/redmi-note-8-tianma-lcd-panel-t3991425
2) 48 MB - Samsung GM1 or GM2
3) LT FDD and TDD bands supported. 4G+ working? Now is call quality, signal strength, speed?
4) If anyone of you have a realme 3 pro or 5 pro handy, try to compare on Point 3 above.
5) Speaker quality?
6) Fingerprint speed. If you have used RN7pro or realme 3 pro or Realme 5 pro, it may seem slow. That is what I understood from some video reviews on youtube.
Plz help. Nitpicking but very confused between Redmi Note 8 and Realme 3 pro. Ordered both at same price.
Will accept one and cancel another order.
RN8 pros over RM3Pro - Type C, Led Notification, Cameras?, Ir Blaster, MiUI (not a fan, but better than color os)
RM3Pro over RN8 - Processor (Huge difference. SD710 is way ahead. Better ISP, Better core and speed, Better AI, Better LTE (X15). SD665 pubg options are very low ), Better call and network quality (I heard), Vooc Charger.
What do you suggest.
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i am having Indian Unit.
1. IT has Tianama Panel
2.GM1 sensor
3.It supports all Indian 4G bands. And It has 4G+ (Jio) getting good net speed, signal strength and call quality is good, but ear piece is not that loud so u ill get bit low voice while u r on crowd place.
4. If u doesnt bother about 4G+ then u can go with realme 3 Pro. Their Color OS keep on getting improvements.
5. Loudspeaker is good but on max volume u ill get some distortions. 80% volume is good
6.FP is good no issues.
I am using realme 5 pro.. Color os is Not that bad.. and on debloting its very smooth. And use nova.. U will have good experiemce withsd 710.. And also cameras are good .Gcam improves it.. Also charging speed will definitely gives peace of mind. I like vooc charger.. And reception is better than my previous galaxy devices.. Internet speeds too..

Question OnePlus 9 Pro or Oppo Find X3 Pro

The Oppo Find X3 Pro and the OnePlus 9 Pro are basically the same phone, with very similar specs and almost identical screens / features.
They even run the same OS in China!
The Oppo has received rave reviews, especially for it's camera offering and colour handling; yet the reviews of the OnePlus are still mostly saying the camera, colour, focus etc. experience "could be better".
So, excluding the faster wireless charging time (which most OnePlus fanbois derided as not needed a couple of years ago), what real reasons are there for picking the OnePlus over the Oppo?
stuclark said:
The Oppo Find X3 Pro and the OnePlus 9 Pro are basically the same phone, with very similar specs and almost identical screens / features.
They even run the same OS in China!
The Oppo has received rave reviews, especially for it's camera offering and colour handling; yet the reviews of the OnePlus are still mostly saying the camera, colour, focus etc. experience "could be better".
So, excluding the faster wireless charging time (which most OnePlus fanbois derided as not needed a couple of years ago), what real reasons are there for picking the OnePlus over the Oppo?
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For me it would be ease of root, modding etc., and I'm kind of fond of Oxygen OS despite the changes in Android 11.
This comparison is really difficult between OnePlus and Oppo. I am an oppo user and at the same time, I am a fan of Oneplus. Both of them have a very minute difference, I want to buy a good camera quality phone for my photography, and here I got stuck between Oppo X# Pro and OnePlus 9 Pro. Please write the difference clearly and help me to buy the best one
The Oppo seems to only support 1 out of the 4 5G bands that T-Mobile operates on, and doesn't have band 71 for 4G, if that matters to you.

Question Who going From OnePlus to Pixel 6?

Been with OnePlus since Op6. Getting my Pixel 6 Pro tomorrow. After the reviews and some user comments I don't think I'm going back.
I am currently using a OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren and I am about to switch to the Pixel 6 Pro.
But I am in nor hurry - the 7T Pro is still working great and fast as hell - also the design is just fantastic.
But as I'Ve been using Pixel (and Nexus) phones before, I think I am going to switch back to TeamPixel once again...
I have a OP8 pro,and going to the P6 pro
Still waiting for my device
I have a OnePlus 8 Pro and Samsung Note20 Ultra. The OnePlus 8 Pro running Android 10 was the perfect balance of clean Android with added customizations. OxygenOS 11 feels like a buggy OneUI knockoff and the shift towards ColorOS strays even further from the smooth clean feel. I know one can unlock the bootloader and run an AOSP ROM on OnePlus devices, but the occasional broken features, root incompatible apps, bootloops when upgrading or installing certain modules, having Slot A/Slot B compatibility issues, etc are annoying. I've rooted and ROM'd phones since the original Droid and the hassles now often outweigh the benefits. I actually have enjoyed Samsung's endless customization options, and with using ADB to uninstall bloatware and custom theming, I've got 95% stock Android. That said, I'm looking forward to an even more fluid experience.
With the Pixel 6 Pro, we're getting the clean stock experience and the option to root, if necessary. In many ways, this will feel more like the true upgrade to the OnePlus 8 Pro. On paper, this is the phone tech enthusiasts have been waiting for but there are few quirks that have been mentioned. It's hard to get unbiased opinions from those given free review units. Unless it ships early, I've got a couple weeks before mine arrives so I'll be waiting to hear impressions from the XDA community. Enjoy your new phone and let us know what you think. Cheers
assuming my P6P ever gets here! (Darn Tmo ) I will be finally switching over from the OP6T. This phone has been giving me some issues for the past few months, and the battery has definitely seen better days. Still LOVE this OP6T though. Hopefully the P6P will live up to the hype!
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I'm upgrading from 1+ 8 pro to the 6 pro and I'm getting excited.
I thought I was going to love 1+ and the 8 pro but I missed Google.
The 8 pro camera has been a disappointment, so I'm excited to get back to having a top of the line camera.
With the holidays and a vacation coming up, I'm definitely going to get tons of use out of the new camera.
The 8 pro, otherwise, has been good but not great.
This is the first google phone that I'm not getting unlocked directly from google.
I ordered direct from Verizon and should have it in the coming days.
I know the downside of getting a carrier phone, but the deal was too good to pass up through Verizon.
I have had a few Oneplus devices: Oneplus 1, 3T, 6T and 8 Pro. The update policy left more and more to be desired over time and the merger with Oppo and the expected ColorOS were clearly my reason to switch. What can I say? I have not regretted it yet. The Pixel 6 Pro is a solid device with absolute strength in camera features.
redukt said:
I have had a few Oneplus devices: Oneplus 1, 3T, 6T and 8 Pro. The update policy left more and more to be desired over time and the merger with Oppo and the expected ColorOS were clearly my reason to switch. What can I say? I have not regretted it yet. The Pixel 6 Pro is a solid device with absolute strength in camera features.
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So, you feel like the 6 pro is a definite upgrade to the 1+ 8 pro?
I'm moving from OnePlus 8 pro to Pixel 6 pro ...
The OnePlus 8 pro is a very nice phone overall. My device is rooted and I'm running custom Magisk module to remove the OnePlus bloatware. Even with some extra config which allows apps that normally run on Pixel (e.g. Google's recorder).
I'm a great fan of dark (black) mode ... on my OnePlus 8 pro I have:
- black wallpaper
- substratum with Swift Black (turns almost all of the Google apps into full black)
- OnePlus settings "dark mode" -> this turns other apps (e.g. banking app, strava, ...) into a "dark greyish"
I like this very much since now everything on my phone is either black or darg grey.
Actually that's what I'm slightly concerned about on the Pixel 6 (without root) .. a mixture of black/dark and many other colours ...
Anyway ... we'll see ... Pixel 6 pro will arrive Friday morning so then I'll be able to check it out.
See attached shots.
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So, you feel like the 6 pro is a definite upgrade to the 1+ 8 pro?
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I have had the Pixel 6 Pro since yesterday and cannot give a long-term review accordingly. But yes. My first impressions are absolutely positive. What I absolutely recommend is a more slip-resistant case. The glass back does not tend to grip. And the pure Android 12 is fun, well-designed and the Pixel6 features are useful extensions.
Was always Nexus/Pixel up to the Pixel 4XL, but then I wanted to give OP a try, and went with the 8 Pro. Good phone. I still have it, still like it, but it never quite lived up to the hype. The camera was the biggest disappointment. With the 6 Pro I'm looking forward to straight forward Android, and one of, if not the best, cameras. Now if Google would just hurry up and ship the friggin' thing. My cancel button went away yesterday, so I'm hoping to get a shipping notice today.
OP6T to GP6
Should be a good replacement.
I have had several OP devices in the past. The One was great, 3 and 3T were just as good as One, the 5 was fine till the drama with the last couple updates, 6T was fine and 8T has been a nightmare to support because of their inconsistent Full Global Package Releases on OP's Download site (they moved Global to Google Servers so the only way to get a full package is when OP releases it on their website). I will be moving to the Pixel 6 Pro and hopefully not looking back.
I'm also in the boat of having multiple Oneplus devices in the past. I currently have a Oneplus 9 Pro, but my Pixel 6 Pro is out for delivery today!
I have had a OnePlus since the 3T and will be moving to the Pixel 6 Pro. Currently using a OnePlus 8 running CRDroid. I have had the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 6 in the past and want to get back to Google updates.
I'm coming from the OP6 and I switched because I wanted a better camera and a telephoto lens. So far I'm quite impressed.
Also, the USB port of my OP6 is completely busted and it takes a while to get a connection
What I don't like that much is the fingerprint reader of the Pixel, I have to aim better and I can't really use the sides of my fingers as it doesn't recognize them very well. That was easier with the OP6. Also, I might miss the headphone jack but I'm getting some free Bose headphones with the Pixel so that issue is probably solved soon
The OP6 is holding up really well with LineageOS 18.1 and GCam though, if the USB port was still fine I might have kept it a bit longer.
Ha, me too, OP6 -> P6P.
Is the OnePlus 8 Pro camera really that bad?
I'm coming from a Pixel 3 XL and am happy with my pictures.
Not sure how the OP8P camera compares with the P3XL camera?
Same here. I've had Oneplus since the 5T and am switching from a 7 Pro. I had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 6 and loved those devices and the crazy development options. I hacked the hell out of those things. I won't rule out going back to Oneplus but I need to see how the Oppo/ColorOS reviews are and let that shake out. I was going to get either a 8 Pro or 9 Pro, or the Asus Rog phone 5 which looked super cool, but decided to get the Pixel 6 Pro. I hope I'm not disappointed and that also there will be decent development eventually.

Question S21U exynos to 9 Pro?

Hello
I have a S21U exynos for nearly a year and it's beginning to boring me, I don't dare to root it because of knox
Also I don't like that sometimes I have to double swipe because the screen needs a longer swipe area than OP phone or the s21u screen are just not as responsive. Same goes for the double tap to open anything because Samsung UI doesn't accept to open an app or menu/settings if any even very slight scrolling is still on screen.
Here's why I am tempted by the 9 Pro:
-Snapdragon vs exynos
-The battery is finally nearly the same thanks to A12, no ?
-ROOT freedom, when I am getting bired of the OS I can simple change the custom rom wmabd all that without being afraid of knox
-OP 10 pro unveiled today looks nothing better than 9 Pro besides the cpu/gpu, the mi 12 pro tele lens is catastrophic given the actual reviews, the s22u will be a copy/paste of the s21u but with an spen... Well 2022 is not a wow year
What I am afraid to miss the most though is the 10x telescopic zoom, but over 11 months I only used like 10 times mostly to impress my gf with moon shots lol
So what do you think? Am I crazy?
Anyone had an s21u and got the 9 Pro?
I had the 9 Pro and got the S21U in august
Battery is better BY FAR, my Op9 was laggy and buggy and i couldnt figure out why. OxygenOS is basically dead and that was always the main reason to buy the OP
Sconny said:
I had the 9 Pro and got the S21U in august
Battery is better BY FAR, my Op9 was laggy and buggy and i couldnt figure out why. OxygenOS is basically dead and that was always the main reason to buy the OP
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You are talking about the S21U exynos or snnapdragon?
9 Pro got a better battery since A12 as I heard so I guess it's now pretty close to s21u exynos
vegetaleb said:
You are talking about the S21U exynos or snnapdragon?
9 Pro got a better battery since A12 as I heard so I guess it's now pretty close to s21u exynos
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Exynos. Haven't had A12, but as I said, without OxygenOS OnePlus is dead. ColorOS (what A12 basically is on OP9) is trash
I have the 9 Pro for 5-6 month now. Switched from Pixel 4Xl to iPhone 11 Pro Max to Note 20 Ultra cheated with Xperie 1ii and back to iPhone 12 Pro Max, then i bought the 9 Pro. So i switched a lot last year. I'm not a fanboy of any brand.
My ranking from best to worse -> 9Pro, 11 Pro Max, Xperia 1ii, Pixel 4XL, 12 Pro Max, Note 20 Ultra (exynos).
9 Pro it's not laggy at all by the way. It's the most fluid/smooth phone i've used. Screen is fantastic and by far the best i've used.
Performance is superb. Camera (got major updat) is brilliant. Battery (A11) is great.
Fast Charging 30 Min ...
All the crying about Oxygen vs Color OS... Don't know, kind of childish. With OxygenOS 12 (Color OS with Oxy Skin) you won't feel a difference. It does not matter. It's still a very clean near stock experience.
If you wabt to switch, just try it, i can highly recommend the 9 Pro
JahJah192 said:
I have the 9 Pro for 5-6 month now. Switched from Pixel 4Xl to iPhone 11 Pro Max to Note 20 Ultra cheated with Xperie 1ii and back to iPhone 12 Pro Max, then i bought the 9 Pro. So i switched a lot last year. I'm not a fanboy of any brand.
My ranking from best to worse -> 9Pro, 11 Pro Max, Xperia 1ii, Pixel 4XL, 12 Pro Max, Note 20 Ultra (exynos).
9 Pro it's not laggy at all by the way. It's the most fluid/smooth phone i've used. Screen is fantastic and by far the best i've used.
Performance is superb. Camera (got major updat) is brilliant. Battery (A11) is great.
Fast Charging 30 Min ...
All the crying about Oxygen vs Color OS... Don't know, kind of childish. With OxygenOS 12 (Color OS with Oxy Skin) you won't feel a difference. It does not matter. It's still a very clean near stock experience.
If you wabt to switch, just try it, i can highly recommend the 9 Pro
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Thanks, abd at least if I don't like stock I can try a vanilla google custom rom
Do you think the passage from 6.8" to 6.7" will be obvious or it's pretty much the same size?
Nah TINY bit smaller, 0,1" is nothing... you know what they say about size
Well, i say is not really ultra. Because is Exynos...
My 9 pro works very well. ColorOs 12 stable C.39 is very good. Except some notification i don't have problems.
Oxygen is full of Google BS. That it makes it Bad.
I use bluetooth = smart watch & music 8 h/day at work. For me. battery is very good.
I never have lag or any other screen problems.
xPan mode color/black & white is gorgeous for photos.
You don't feel that 0,1" difference. 100%.
But why don't you wait a little & buy 10 pro?
null0seven said:
Well, i say is not really ultra. Because is Exynos...
My 9 pro works very well. ColorOs 12 stable C.39 is very good. Except some notification i don't have problems.
Oxygen is full of Google BS. That it makes it Bad.
I use bluetooth = smart watch & music 8 h/day at work. For me. battery is very good.
I never have lag or any other screen problems.
xPan mode color/black & white is gorgeous for photos.
You don't feel that 0,1" difference. 100%.
But why don't you wait a little & buy 10 pro?
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10 pro is deceiving, at least for me, same telephoto camera while I hoped for a 5x or 10x, super wide camera is worse than 9 pro, same exact screen in terms of size and brightness...
And the price of new OP flagships here in my country is always overpriced, the 9 Pro 12/256 started at 1150$ now it's at 770$!!
I can sell my 10 months old s21u for 770$ today and pay 0$ for a brand new 9 Pro. When the 10 Pro will be out, the s22u would have been out for 2 months so I couldn't sell the s21u more than 600$
As for the 9 Pro I guess it won't drop too much anymore here, perhaps max 50$
That's the question.. is the 10 pro worth it. Same camera mainsensor, worse ultrawide sensor 1/2.56 (guess it was) on the 10 Pro and 1/1.5x on 9 Pro is a huge size difference. Only thing will be (cam) software.
And better CPU/GPU chip.
If you get the 9Pro with a discount...
vegetaleb said:
Hello
I have a S21U exynos for nearly a year and it's beginning to boring me, I don't dare to root it because of knox
Also I don't like that sometimes I have to double swipe because the screen needs a longer swipe area than OP phone or the s21u screen are just not as responsive. Same goes for the double tap to open anything because Samsung UI doesn't accept to open an app or menu/settings if any even very slight scrolling is still on screen.
Here's why I am tempted by the 9 Pro:
-Snapdragon vs exynos
-The battery is finally nearly the same thanks to A12, no ?
-ROOT freedom, when I am getting bired of the OS I can simple change the custom rom wmabd all that without being afraid of knox
-OP 10 pro unveiled today looks nothing better than 9 Pro besides the cpu/gpu, the mi 12 pro tele lens is catastrophic given the actual reviews, the s22u will be a copy/paste of the s21u but with an spen... Well 2022 is not a wow year
What I am afraid to miss the most though is the 10x telescopic zoom, but over 11 months I only used like 10 times mostly to impress my gf with moon shots lol
So what do you think? Am I crazy?
Anyone had an s21u and got the 9 Pro?
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I hear you as I feel the same about my S21+ exynos except that I plan to switch to Xiaomi 12 because Oneplus is faaar away from the spirit which made its success years ago. It was nearly half the price of the best flagship and with better performance, development was very active with high interactivity with the growing users community, big big choice of custom roms and kernels, ...etc
Lately Oneplus seemed lagging behind in all these aspects and becoming exactly what they were laughing at (they said Never Settle ) and now they are getting Oppofied, uh no thank you.
So what's left for me to get away from samsung and their latest try to punish me for rooting the phone I bought with my money by disabling shealth, blocking connection with my gw4, ...etc plus some other annoyances which persist since day 1? Xiaomi 12 seems to me the best option. I made my mind and I just wait for it to go global in the coming weeks.

Question OP 9 pro or new Norc 2 CE

My OP 6 is slow as hell because of the bad (update) support from OP with updates and the screen just cracked so I am looking to buy a new phone. With the upcoming OP10 and the review from jerryrigseverything I will not spend my money on that thing because my phone will lay everywhere and will be in every pocket. Although the bad reputation OP is getting themselves in {Mod edit} I am not ready to leave the brand yet (Samsungs get slow as hell as well after a few years and other brands ask way above 1k as well for a phone). Thinking about getting the 9 Pro after the 10 is out to get it for cheap but I noticed that de Nord 2 CE is out as well. Is this a better phone (or close to the 9 Pro) in terms of performance and all or not?
Would it be better to get the Nord 2 CE instead of the 9 Pro?
Totally different goals for each device. OP9 Pro has a flagship SoC and Nord CE 2 is focused on average users. The hardware doesn't replicate the same premium features (the body is covered with plastic, the screen isn't so bright and the refresh rating reaches up to 90Hz).
Look at the 9RT else the Iqoo 9 / 9 Pro. The new Mi series is also good. Nord 3 might release soon. My OP6 was working fine but needed a new phone so sold that and got the 9RT. It's good enough.
If the price is close 9 Pro. Just better.
10 Pro Global is still young in OxygenOS, still got some bug's...

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