AGM G2 Guardian | 5G Unlocked | Qualcomm QCM6490 | Long Range Thermal Monocular | Android 12 | 108MP | 7000 mAh - Device Reviews and Information

AGM G2 Guardian​5G Unlocked Rugged Smartphone | Thermal Monocular Long Detection Range: 500m/yd​
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​Main Features​​
* Qualcomm QCM6490
* Long Range Thermal Monocular
* 6.58' FHD+ 120Hz Display
* 108MP Rear Camera
* 7000 mAh Battery
* Waterproof, shock and dust proof. Certified IP68/IP69K/MIL-STD-810H
* 109dB Loud Speaker
* 8/12GB + 256GB Storage​
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Source: AGM Mobile Website
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5G​
Band: n1, n2, n3, n5, n7, n8, n28, n41, n66,n71, n77, n78,n79
NSA: Support, Option 3x/3a
SA: Support, Option 2
MIMO: n1/n2/n3/n7/n66/n77/n78/n79 Four Downstream, Single Upstream, n41 Four Downstream, Dual Upstream
SRS
SA SRS: n41:2T4R,n77/n78/n79:1T4R NSA SRS:n41/n77/n78/n79 1T4R
HPUE: n41/n78/N79: Total Power 26dBm
EN_DC
CA​
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Chipset​Chipset: Qualcomm QCM6490
CPU: Kryo 670
GPU: Adreno 643​
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Storage​Capacity: UFS2.2, 8G+256G & 12G+256G
Expandable Storage (TF Card):Support , 512G​
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Screen​Size: 6.58'
Resolution: FHD+
Refreshing Rate: 120HZ
Cameras
Pixels
108MP Rear Camera
20MP Infrared night vision Camera
2MP Macro Camera
256*192 Thermal Camera (10mm lens)
sensor: TBD
Flashlight: Support
Front Camera
Pixels: 32M
sensor
Sound
MIC: Dual-mic
PA: 3.5W Speaker
Stereo: Not Support
Motor: Support
Speaker Effect: Default algorithm
Headphone Effect: No
Speaker: AGM Iconic Speaker
Direction: Back
WLAN agreement: 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax
Battery
capacity: 7000mAh
installation method: built-in
Fast Charging: Support, 18W
Dock Charging: Support
Durability requirements
Operating temperature: -20°C~60°C
Degree of protection: IP68/IP69K/810H​
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I pre-ordered the G2 Guardian and received it 4 days ago. I charged it to 100% when I received it and have not since charged it again...4 entire days of pretty heavy usage, still I have 30% battery. Just about to fill the MicroSD up with music. Hopefully by the time it's fully charged again my battery usage metrics will be calibrated and I can work on some proper usage figures for everyone.
Why did I make this purchase/ My use case:
I work in forestry in Northern Australia. It's sweaty as hell, storms develop quickly and whatever I use will get wet multiple times per week through one or the other. Overall I look after my gear with great care, but some things are unavoidable: water, dust, plant matter slowly filling all of my pockets and getting into my gear through whatever orifice is available. Much like Eels, it finds an entrance where it can. I spend much of my week smashing around in the undergrowth. Being able to wash my devices periodically is important, good quality port covers are equally important.
Another must-have for me is a battery that won't let me down. If I manage to hike to the furthest point from my vehicle within a given parcel of land then it's a major problem for me if my battery runs out and I lose the GPS track that I am running, or cannot collect the remainder of my data taking a different path back to my vehicle. My time is wasted, my sweat and exertion are wasted and I've got to climb a bunch of 35+ degree slopes back to the car for no gain. For this reason, the company iphone and ipad are in the bin where they belong. Both devices constantly let me down one way or another, neither of them are designed to do what I do, even in a lifeproof case.
To solve these issues, I ran the Ulefone Power Armor 13 for over a year. It was a great device, I customised the hell out of it but eventually I got tired of carrying a 498gram brick in my pocket. At home without a belt, it would pull my pants down. It was JUST fast enough not to annoy me, and I really enjoyed how deeply I had customised it but I became annoyed with how poor the camera could be sometimes, and with just how heavy it was, but moreso how cumbersome the form factor was and how cheap it looked and felt.
In a flash of brilliance, I replaced the Power Armor 13 with a Galaxy Xcover 6 pro. Paid outright for the device, bought a couple of spare batteries and rubber port covers for the 3.5mm and USB-C ports, and patted myself on the back for being the smartest man alive. The extra speed of the Snapdragon 778G was just what I had been looking for, the retention of an IP68 rating even with a replaceable battery and the moderately rugged construction seemed to be more than enough for my workday, and I could much more easily slip this thing into the pocket of my jeans before heading to the bar on the weekend. No more laughter when producing my phone from my pocket, no more having to explain how I could possibly need a half kilogram phone...I just looked like a normal person, with a normal life.
It lasted 2 months. I got caught in a storm, the Xcover 6 pro was in my backpack. That IP rating is not worth the paper it is written on. Not only did it fail spectacularly, I'm pretty sure it almost caught fire doing so. It got indescribably hot to the point that I knew it was absolutely dead. No amount of time spent in bags of rice would resurrect it, and after a last ditch effort trying to dry it out in direct sunlight I could see that constant exposure to heavy sweat during my work had also managed to penetrate whatever miserable water ingress protection it had. There were literal salt crystals falling out from near the battery terminals: this thing had been getting moisture past the rubber gasket whilst in my pocket for the entire 2 months I'd owned it.
At this point, Samsung can go and boil their bums. I had been a militant supporter of their Galaxy Active lineup, simply unable to understand why anyone would choose their regular lineup when the Active line existed. Once they dropped the Active I had to look elsewhere, but I was over the moon to see that they had done an xcover device that wasn't completely and utterly under powered so I caved. Fool me once... they're dead to me, and so is the possibility of me owning a 'normal' phone. It's just not going to work for me.
After drying my tears I set about scouting out a new rugged phone that would meet all of my needs without pulling my pants down. I have also recently had to start doing koala spotting again, and even though we have a $2400 thermal scope available at my office, there is only 1. I can't carry it with me all the time in case somebody else needs it, and to be perfectly honest I've found it pretty inadequate once the sun rises. Once there's sunlight on the trees it's pretty much useless, and having to peer through a monocular makes it dangerous walking through the bush. The hardware specs of the scope are so low that it is ridiculously clunky to use, and it is endlessly refreshing the sensor. I wasn't happy with it, and I always had to drive back and get it, so the presence of a thermal camera on my everyday phone became appealing. Imagine my joy when I got home to find that pre-orders for the AGM G2 guardian were just about to start. BOLD claims in the promo literature, but I decided to roll the dice.
Initial impressions of the AGM G2 Guardian after 4 days:
I had some serious trepidation about this purchase. I know that AGM have been around for 14 years or so, and I have come really close to buying several of their devices over the years. The AGM X3 was right up my alley, but for $1000USD in 2019, it was a much easier choice to grab a second hand S8 Active for a few hundred bucks.
The purchase experience through AGM's official eBay store felt sketchy. They shipped me an AU power adapter on the day I pre-ordered, marking the device as shipped. Once the adapter was delivered my buyer protection started counting down. Honestly, in spite of their constant assurances I felt like I was about to get scammed especially since I got it for such a comparatively low price as a pre-order.
I was also nervous about the price I had paid for a rugged phone made in Shenzen. Even though AGM have always positioned themselves as the premium offering in this space, often choosing absolute top of the line Snapdragon SOC's rather than poxy mediatek chips, and having a European design team for their entire range it still seemed like an awful lot of money given the competition.
As soon as I held the G2 Guardian in my hands the reason for the additional price tag compared with the competition became obvious. Even before I turned it on this thing felt TIGHT. Not a rattle in sight, and whilst the 400 grams is still very heavy for a phone, it carries the weight well and manages to feel extremely high quality, reliable and a little bit sexy all at the same time. I'm not sure how to describe this, because it's only 98 grams lighter than my Power Armor was, but I barely notice this thing in my pocket. It feels great to hold and even though I acknowledge that I am part of a very small and very weird group of customers...I think it looks cool as hell and the ergonomics are great. Everything is where you want it to be including the fingerprint sensor. Every time I pull it out of my pocket, I get that nugget feeling. It feels built to last and extremely high quality.
Once I powered it up and started going through the setup process I really started smiling. The first thing that really brought home that nugget feeling was the quality of the haptic feedback. I assume a decent quality motor combined with just how solid the body of the device is has given a fairly nice result here.
Overall an absolute 10/10 for satisfaction on the physical characteristics of this device.
Chipset
Qualcomm QCM 6490 industrial processor.
2.7Ghz, 8 cores, 6nm process. 5G, Wifi6/6E. 8 or 12GB ram.
There's not much to say here. This thing absolutely flies, and sips battery whilst it's doing it. It's faster than the competing 778G by a decent margin and has far better multithreaded performance. It also destroys even the best Mediatek Dimensity chipsets in competing rugged phones clocking in at just under 600,000 Antutu score in V9. No, it's not as fast as a snapdragon 8 Gen1, but it also won't get overly hot or need a purpose built animation to see your battery empty whilst playing games or doing demanding processing.
Display
120hz refresh rate (though I have to assume it is adaptive given the battery life and lack of manual setup options) and a very tasty 2408x1080 400ppi results in a fast, flowy and vibrant display. Let me be clear, this absolutely bashes the pants off my previous 2 phones, but I have to assume it wouldn't be in the ballpark of the latest S23 or anything like that in terms of image quality. The 120hz display is a massive bonus here, and a great implementation. I've never seen this thing lag or skip. It's a really rewarding user experience that looks and feels great and is always buttery smooth. AGM have not provided customisation options here. There's no ability to lock it to 60hz or change the resolution. Ordinarily I wouldn't be happy with this, but given the battery life and quality of experience it seems like they've dialed it in exactly where it needs to be.
Cameras
The main camera is a 108mp Samsung lens. Obviously this lens is extremely capable of taking good photos. Plenty of depth and colour, and it is extremely fast. Unfortunately the combination of a lack of image stabilization and a very basic camera app implementation lead to a lot of dud photos unless you get lucky with the natural lighting conditions being absolutely perfect. I find myself having to take 5 or 6 photos of the same scene or subject to guarantee 1 good shot. It is really reliable up-close on stationary objects, and in this use-case it seems to thrive, producing consistently good images.
There is work to do here for AGM. At present, this high-quality and perfectly capable lens is going to waste a lot of the time because the camera app is so basic. You can tell that the hardware is infinitely capable, but it is absolutely screaming for a port of GCAM or a LOT of development on their in-house app. I don't think it even has HDR at present and configuration options are extremely limited.
Front camera is a 32mp unit that provides a really smooth video calling experience, quality is good. Not sure how good it is at selfies because selfies are for children.
There's also a 20MP Sony night-vision camera. This works well, and I believe it is activated by choosing 'infrared detect' in the camera app and probably plays some role in the thermal function I guess (?).
Finally, the last 'normal' camera is a 2MP Macro Camera. This works really well for Macro shots but I have to wonder what kind of insanity led to the inclusion of a macro lens rather than a decent wide-angle sensor in an outdoor focused device. 90% of my photos on my last few phones have been taken with the wide-angle sensor and it is going to take some serious getting used to not having one. Obviously I knew this before purchase, but I miss my wide-angle lenses already.
Thermal Module
Here is the big daddy, and obviously the focal point of this device. A 10mm lens paired with 256x192 thermal image resolution and 25hz video resolution.
AGM have knocked this out of the park. With zero exaggeration, this is the best thermal scope I have ever used. I have used devices with higher thermal detector resolution (384 x 288), but even in devices that cost over $2200AUD, these sensors are paired with absolute garbage processing power. This leaves you with a really clunky user experience. These specialist devices are also often plagued with really terrible battery life, and having to hold it up to your eye is downright dangerous given the understory you are more than likely walking through if you have a use for such a device.
Combining a decent sensor and a 10mm lens with the very respectable hardware at the heart of the G2 Guardian eliminates all of the problems inherent to a standalone thermal monocular. They say the best camera is the one you have with you, and this applies double to thermal scopes. To ALWAYS have this thing available in my pocket is a massive advantage.
Thermal Range (Detection Range VS Recognition Range) and performance
I was pretty dubious of the claims made by AGM here. Well, I was wrong. At night, there is a very comfortable recognition range of around 100 to 200 metres depending on the size of the animal, and a detection range (how far out you can actually identify a heat signature is present) well over 500 metres, again, depending on the size of the object.
The thermal app interface is fast and responsive, and there is an entire galaxy of configuration options including the ability to set up your own custom thermal ribbon colour modes to suit your use. The timelapse function will be awesome for monitoring wildlife, and the analysis tools are crazy good. Both auto-focus and manual focus modes are brilliant, and I find myself wishing they had put a similar amount of effort into the main camera app.
Temperature measurement range is disappointing in the Guardian variant which I believe is only capable of 0C to 150C with accuracy. I believe this was a necessary compromise to allow such an amazing long range thermal camera experience. The G2 Pro variant does not have such impressive long-range thermal capability, but has accurate temperature measurement between -20C to 550C. This was an easy choice for me, it's far more useful for me to be able to detect an animal or heat signature at long range, than to tell the exact temperature of that object up close.
I have had a FLIR sensor previously on the very first CAT phone, and it was not even in the same universe of what the G2 Guardian is capable of. Hands down, this is the best bit of thermal gear I've ever used and I have access to several very expensive standalone units - the implementation on the G2 Guardian is genuinely impressive. They have made the jump from what is a cool gimmick on most phones, to a genuine work or hunting tool. I am blown away here.
The most impressive feature of the thermal experience is how well it works in daylight conditions. Many extremely expensive scopes are completely useless in daylight. As soon as sunlight starts to hit tree trunks, it's time to give up and go home. I'm not exactly sure how AGM have overcome this challenge, and obviously it will always work better at night or in the early morning, but even at 10am in full sun I have been able to ID animals very easily.
Firmware and customization potential
The Android implementation here is completely and utterly bloat free. The only non-google apps AGM have installed is their camera app, their thermal camera app and the AGM service app, where you can input the particulars of your device and purchase date, and submit a help or service request. There is also a third party launcher, but I never touched it - I installed Lynx launcher from my google backup before I even made it to the homescreen...i know what I like at this point.
The remainder of the UI experience is practically untouched, sharing most similarities to the latest Pixel devices including some of the fancier features including the ability to screenshot beyond the current display area of a web site, the juicy larger sized quick settings menu, extra dim mode, bedtime routines etc etc. There are extra settings menus present for the user defined key (though very basic, can't even set a vibration
I have to commend AGM here for providing such a beautiful stock android experience and not going ham with some janky over zealous skin.
Whilst I have not unlocked the bootloader or rooted this device, I have verified that flicking the OEM Unlocking switch in developer options does have the desired result, and that you are able to gain access to the bootloader via ADB reboot bootloader. This is good news for the future, with many devices from mainstream manufacturers now shipping without even the ability to access the bootloader.
It seems like there is potential here, but at present I do not have a reason to proceed any further down this path. Time will tell how well AGM support these devices long term with incremental updates but so far all they have promised is that they will provide regular Android security updates, and that their camera and thermal apps will be developed on an ongoing basis. I would not be surprised if we never see Android 13 or 14 here, but I could be wrong.
It would be a massive roll of the dice to flash a GSI or custom rom here given the amount of device specific, niche hardware. In all likelyhood, unless AGM decide to expend the resources to support this type of development in-house (and why would they?), any attempt to install a non-factory rom will result in the loss of your thermal camera, infrared camera and probably the sick flashlight as well.
At some point in the future I may attempt to root this phone but for now most of the reasons I have for doing so have already been solved in-house.
The battery optimisation and power management is absolutely killer and unobtrusive, giving an outstanding result for daily use. All of the bluetooth codecs you could possibly want are there including APT-X, APT-X HD, LDAC, AAC - so i've no need to force these in via magisk modules.
Activating the amazingly handy 100 lumen flashlight on the top of the phone via hardware key on the side is a default feature...this is one of the big reasons I usually root my phones. If they would add haptic feedback when it's activated, I'm happy and probably won't root at all.
Connectivity
3G and 4G signal reception on this device is better than anything I've owned previously. I was sweating bullets about VoLTE and VoWifi working on this out of the box because I have been completely reliant on wifi calling at home on all my other phones, which generally only manage 1 bar of cellular signal at best.
The great news is that VoLTE and VoWifi did work immediately out of the box, but given that I now have consistently better coverage with the G2 I'm less reliant on it. When it does kick in, it seems to do so seamlessly. All I could really ask for here is clear visible delineation between Wifi calls and HD voice/ VoLTE calls.
Wifi reception is also very good with very little degradation even at considerable distance from my router. Unfortunately I do not have access to 5G or Wifi6 to truly test it. On the previous 5ghz wifi standard it is easily able to hand me the full capacity of my starlink connection. Overall I feel like they really prioritized antenna location and design in this device. All of the other features are cool, but first and foremost this is a GREAT phone.
Tiny touches
AGM G2 Guardian is one of those cases where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. I assumed the 3.5watt speaker on the rear would be a gimmick...wow. This little speaker is worth its bulge. It's loud, clear and gives even the simple act of unlocking the device some serious presence. For podcast listening when I'm out in the shed or out in the bush and don't want to risk headphones masking the early warning signs of any slithery surprises it is absolutely fantastic. For music, I own several small bluetooth speakers that do not have this quality or volume. They have tuned the output in such a way that even at max volume there is no distortion, it's just loud and clear. I thought being on the rear of the device would be a disadvantage but they've overcome this with pure power.
The torch is one of my favourite features. I'm a total torch nerd but this is one less thing that I have to worry about having on my person, and the output is more than enough for most simple tasks at night. To have this with me at all times is a huge boon, and it is a million times better than even the brightest LED flash style flashlight on most phones, and emits from the top so is much more usable.
Bluetooth implementation here is INCREDIBLE. Stability of all bluetooth codecs has been fantastic, with no skipping and fantastic range. Even on my tiny earbuds, I am able to walk to the other end of my house with no skips or disconnects. This is about 25 metres. For comparison, my xcover 6 pro would constantly skip just from facing the wrong way in my pocket, and would give me about 10 metres unobstructed in the house. That's some serious power from the AGM, and decent thought put in to location of the antennas.
Best of all, when connecting any bluetooth audio device, a quick popup appears to inform you which codec is active! This is such a great little touch that saves me jumping through 3 layers of developer options to ensure that I am actually using the codec I want when my headphones connect.
A labour of love
In one of their recent long-form videos on youtube, an AGM representative claims the Bill of Materials cost for parts and labour to bring the G2 Guardian to completion is $740USD owing mainly to the expense of the thermal module.
If this is true, this leaves AGM with a very slim profit margin on this device. It seems their motivation here is purely to grow their brand, get more AGM devices into the hands of users in this small segment of the market and really make a great device to be proud of. You can feel it.
If you have ever considered a rugged device, or are sick of destroying your expensive mainstream ones this may well be the halo product you have been waiting for. The attention to detail here is hard to put into words until you've used one for a few days.
Concerns
-Even the large RAM X-Grip can only just hold this device in a vehicle owing to the bulge on the rear. It is secure in there, but only just. If AGM were to release a purpose built vehicle mount for these, I'd absolutely buy one.
-AGM Specs on their website still claim 10W wireless charging even now. It appears that either A) this is a lie B) it uses some non-standard wireless charging standard or C) They are claiming their dock accessory as wireless charging which I suppose would technically be true...but I have not yet received my dock and seems a bit disingenuous
It turns out there is wireless charging present, it's just very difficult getting it to pick up given the shape of the rear and the thickness of the case. Presently charging at 10W after some very careful balancing. I eagerly await the charging dock!
-Thermal module is fairly exposed and picks up every smudge imagineable. This does not impact use, and I do not have any scratches yet. AGM claim hardness of this glass is very high, but I can't think of a way to protect this lens when it is not in use.
-Main camera software needs some help. As detailed previously, you can get great photos out of this hardware combo, but it doesn't happen often enough. Maybe the in-house team can pull something together, but I can't help but think it would be a better outcome to get a port of GCAM running well, and enjoy all of the software processing and HDR trickery that comes with it. I may start having a mess around here myself.
That's about it. 99% of people won't read my wall of text, but for those seriously considering this purchase I hope this goes some way to helping you make your decision.
I have used rugged devices from every major player in this space. This is by far the best experience I've had with any of them. This phone absolutely slaps.
Camera samples attached with some compression from google photos.
Daylight closeup outdoors under cover
Daylight outdoors closeup subject
Daylight indoors close-up
Daylight sneaking distance, medium size eastern grey kangaroo
Outdoors 9am daylight photography sample
Night. Termite mound in foreground. Cow approx 60m away
Night. Small kangaroo @ 70-75m
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Alright I'm off to the races.
Shamim's Gcam port opens and appears to take photos, doesn't lag. It's night here right now, but this is where I will be starting my customisation journey.
Shamim: SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V4FIX
Download SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V4FIX by Shamim.
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Have you got the gcam port working? And if so how is image quality?

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Have you got the gcam port working? And if so how is image quality?
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Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.

Okay yes I'm thinking this will be my next phone :-D Just need price to drop a bit!

bandario said:
Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
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I'll try to get into the configs, but does gcam give it any image stabilization?

bandario said:
Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
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Okay awesome, I'll get it as my next device and follow this thread I suggest contacting the dev from the gcam link, he can help with configs if he can ask you for files etc. Then once built just attach the apk here!

I installed "SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V5_ENG_PACKAGE" on G2 Guardian and it is working fine on the main camera and the front camera and has software based image stabilization option. However, I don't see any option for Night vision and macro cameras. May be proper config is required.

bandario said:
Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
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Thank you for the review and mentioning of GCAM software. I installed it and It has many more options then the stock AGM G2 Guardian app. Thanks

vicki20july said:
I installed "SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V5_ENG_PACKAGE" on G2 Guardian and it is working fine on the main camera and the front camera and has software based image stabilization option. However, I don't see any option for Night vision and macro cameras. May be proper config is required.
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You never will. It's a small miracle that it works out of the box with main and front cam for stills and video. To get any other lens involved would require huge input from AGM on a non-sanctioned project messing with google code. It won't happen. I'm just grateful they used standard enough hardware calls that we can build from a stable base on main cam.

davecotefilm said:
I'll try to get into the configs, but does gcam give it any image stabilization?
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Yes, AI image stabilisation standard to GCAM. To be honest I actively avoid phones with hardware OIS because vibrations when mounted to my motorbike kill the mechanism leaving me with a dead camera. I'm super happy to have GCAM fake OIS.

Thinks you for all this informations about agm guardian, I want to buy from ebay agm store, I want to ask you about zoom quality of the main camera? Can you post image and videos with zoom at least x8 or x10

samienemy said:
Thinks you for all this informations about agm guardian, I want to buy from ebay agm store, I want to ask you about zoom quality of the main camera? Can you post image and videos with zoom at least x8 or x10
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It does not have a telephoto lens. Max zoom is 8X and it looks as bad as you imagine. If this feature is important to you, buy something with a telephoto lens.

GCAM
AGM Stock CAM

It cost over 1200$ I will wait for less price

samienemy said:
It cost over 1200$ I will wait for less price
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$859USD on Ebay. AGM web shop is wild, changes price if you view it multiple times getting more expensive every time.

bandario said:
It does not have a telephoto lens. Max zoom is 8X and it looks as bad as you imagine. If this feature is important to you, buy something with a telephoto len
bandario said:
It does not have a telephoto lens. Max zoom is 8X and it looks as bad as you imagine. If this feature is important to you, buy something with a telephoto lens.
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There is an option in SGCAM to increase zoom capability. I am able to get it working up to around 35x
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To what end? At 8X it already looks like a psychedelic cartoon.

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CUBOT H2 - Information & Reviews - 5.5" HD | MT6735 | 3GB | 16GB | 5000mAh

Introduction
Just like most Chinese brands, also CUBOT entered the market of the so-called “Battery Smartphones” starting from the CUBOT H1. The CUBOT H2 is entirely based on its previous model, but with an upgraded CPU, increased RAM and a Better Chassis and some other minor differences. Somehow they have removed the IR Trasmitter but this is something that, in my opinion, almost no one uses nowadays with the diffusion of Smart TVs & Home Appliances.
This is the CUBOT H2 Smartphone
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Hardware
The CUBOT H2 Smartphone features a mid-range SOC, MT6735A, that is able to handle every daily task without major issues. It is supported by a plenty amount of RAM, 3 GBs, improving multitasking and device’s reactivity while running heavy apps. Also, just like the latest Xiaomi MI5, it features a screen supported by an ultra-bright 16-LED backlighting, but its resolution is just HD (1280x720), the maximum officially supported by this SOC. Battery Capacity is just a bit lower than the CUBOT H1, 5000mAh instead of 5200mAh, but it doesn’t mean that battery life has been impacted. Follow my next paragraphs to know more.
Unboxing
Packaging comes with many accessories: 1x Screen Protector (Tempered Glass) with Wipes, 1x SIM/MicroSD tray Eject Tool, 1x OTG Cable, 1x Micro-USB Cable (really nice quality), 1x 5V/2A USB Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide and the Smartphone (of course). No Headset included.
CUBOT has focused its attention on the design, the device feels extremely solid (much better than my Galaxy S4) thanks to the Zinc Titanium chassis, there is no Keys Rattling at all and it is Slim enough considering that there is a 5000mAh Battery inside. Sincerely, this is the best-built Smartphone I have ever tried. Well Done CUBOT!
It is just 15.0x76.5x0.9cm, compact enough and it weights 232 g, not so lightweight but with a Metal Chassis and an Huge Battery inside you can’t expect something lighter.
On the front side there is the 2.5D Curved Display, that makes the usage of the device much more ergonomic. The Glass is enclosed in a Metal Frame, which increases the device’s toughness.
The upper front side of the device features a Front-Facing Camera, an Earpiece, a Notification LED and the Sensors hole that includes Light, Proximity and Gesture Sensors.
Just like many other devices, also this LED is an RGB variant, so it supports multiple colors and you can customize them via the Settings app. It is used as for Notifications and Charging status.
The lower front side of the device there are the Soft-Keys Navigation Buttons (not retroilluminated), and an almost hidden Microphone Hole. A nice idea to keep the whole design the most clean possible.
On the back side there is a Curved Plastic Cover, with a nice texture that makes the whole device feel Premium. This cover isn’t hard to remove, making any future battery replacement much more easier that devices with Glass/Metal back cover.
The upper rear side of the device features a protunding Camera supported by a Dual-Flash (Single Tone) configuration.
The lower rear side of the device features a noticeable Brand Logo, some little words about the Device and a big Speaker hole.
As you can see, CUBOT take care of many details, especially regards the Metal Chassis. It is absolutely perfect, without any little defect. Thanks to the CNC treatment, the whole chassis is made to be the most comfortable possible. I’m really impressed, I hope that CUBOT won’t abandon this extreme attention to the details.
Unlike some other Chinese Smartphones, the SIM Card/Micro-SD tray has been well designed to allow the usage of a Micro-SIM and a Micro-SD without having to replace your SIM with a Nano variant. So you can use a Micro-SIM and a Micro-SD in the same time.
Device
Screen
CUBOT choose to include an innovative IPS screen on this device, I still need to find the brand and the model, but they declare that it has an ultra-bright 16-LED backlighting, just like the Xiaomi MI5 then, and I must admit that under direct sunlight I was still able to see the screen without any issue at all.
Under normal usage, the screen is almost everytime bright, even if brightness is set to low-medium. It’s a pity that its resolution is just HD, but Quality is just awesome, you won’t be able to see any pixel at all, it is really sharp and white reproduction is perfect. Comparing the screen with my Galaxy S4, you can see that CUBOT H2 screen looks much better as regards white reliability.
I have used my Galaxy S4 Light Sensor to measure CUBOT H2 maximum brightness. I don’t have a professional Lumen Meter, so this (Lux) is the only value that I can provide you.
About Viewing Angles, the screen doesn’t suffer any kind of issue, it behaves perfect in every single condition.
As you can see, Image Contrast is accurate while Saturation is a bit too high, so Colors look pretty vibrant, similar to Super AMOLED Screens. This is something pretty personal, so I won’t express my opinion about.
Camera
Back Camera performs pretty well, even if I’m not sure that the resolution is interpolated to 13mpx or not, but, just like almost all Chinese Smartphones, the noise level is a bit high. If CUBOT works a bit more on the Camera software, I’m pretty sure that Photos Quality will be improved.
There are no major issues with low-light photos, HDR makes Photos just a bit brighter.
Under medium sunlight Photos looks pretty good, detailed and with Vibrant colors.
Thanks to the Dual Flash configuration, low-light photos gets improved pretty well. As you can see, my cat looks much detailed here. Even without Flash, quality isn’t too bad.
Auto-Focus speed is decent, nothing extremely fast (no PDAF here), but neither extremely slow. It is as fast as on my Galaxy S4. Under low-light conditions it tends to be a bit slow, but I think this is software-related so it can be improved a lot in the future.
About Videos, there is no Optical Stabilization here, but Software Stabilization (if enabled) does its job (but producing that famous fisheye effect), and there are no major issues here too. Maximum Supported Resolution is 1080p (named as Video Quality – Fine). I can say that this is enough for standard medium quality videos, do not expect ultra-high quality.
Front-Facing Camera is much better than what I thought, Brand and Model are unknown yet though. Again, I don’t know if resolution is interpolated to 8mpx or not, but Photos are pretty good. Here you can find a comparision between front (left) & back (right) camera.
Maximum Supported Video Resolution is 720p, and Quality is just fine as you would expect from a Front-Facing camera.
Audio
Speaker’s Sound lacks a bit of Bass, but it is loud and with a nice clarity.
I have measured its loudness using my Galaxy S4 Microphone, here you’ll see its maximum power.
Unfortunately, it is positioned on the back, so if you place the device on a table you could experience volume issues, but this doesn’t mean that it is a bad thing. What matters here is the quality.
Also in-call, it is pretty loud, sound tends to get distorted a bit at maximum volume, but this device doesn’t support VoLTE (Voice Over LTE) so Call Quality is just the standard AMR-WB (16000 Hz) on 3G Network.
Earpiece is absolutely perfect, its sound is much better than my Galaxy S4, it isn’t extremely loud it produces a clean and high-clarity sound. Probably the device i have ever tested as regards in-call quality.
Device’s microphone is perfect too, I have tested it with many calls, and every single person I have called said me that he/she was able to hear me perfectly, better than how my Voice was recorded using my Galaxy S4.
Summarizing these results, I can say that the Audio Sector has been accurately developed by CUBOT.
Telephony and Mobile Network
Thanks to the 4G Band 20 support (some other Chinese Smartphones don’t have it), I’m almost always and everywhere connected to the 4G Network of my Mobile Network Provider (TIM Italy).
Also 3G Signal Reception is accurate, actually I never managed to get connected to the 2G Network of my Mobile Operator because there was always some 3G Signal available. A good quality Antenna has been used.
4G Network Speed is decent, it highly depends on your Mobile Operator and mine isn’t pretty good. While 3G Network Speed, is just fine. (MT6735 supports maximum 21.1mbps)
Battery Life
When you’ll first charge your device, you’ll find more or less 50% of Charge, I recommend you to charge the device completely before you start to use it. That’s to improve battery calibration accuracy.
Battery Life is just awesome, I managed to reach more than 9 hours of Screen-On Time, with Wi-Fi, 4G, Location & Sync ON. I have also turned on screen-off gestures (double-tap to wake), and during the night I have lost more or less 15% of battery so I don’t recommend to enable them if you are interested in improving battery life.
My second full-charge wasn’t pretty accurate, I have charged the device measuring current with a USB Tester and it recorded just ~4750mAh instead of the 5000mAh declared. I’ll measure this value again after more charging cycles and update this review. I know, declared value is always higher than real value, but nearly 300mAh of Battery Capacity is missing here.
For Daily Usage, even if stressed a lot, this device won’t have any issue regarding battery life, it will be able to reach the end of the day even with some residual charge left.
Also, this device support 5V/2A Quick Charge, so you won’t have to worry about charging time. I can confirm that this is working because the USB Tester measured more or less 2A of charging current.
Software
Even if this is a new device, CUBOT choose to use Android 5.1 release instead of latest Android 6.0 for some unknown reason. Anyway, all seems to work fine. They customized some parts of the software such as Lockscreen, Notification Bar, Launcher and Phone/Contacts app.
Lockscreen reminds the old Android Kitkat, with a Ring to unlock the screen or open Phone/Messaging app.
Launcher is similar to MIUI variant, without App Drawer and with some nice possible customizations.
Notification Bar seems to be similar to TouchWiz variant, with many useful toggles. It is pretty smooth too.
The Phone/Contacts app is something that probably you have already seen somewhere. This is extremely similar to the MIUI v5 variant, just with different colors.
The last customized part of the OS is the Recent Apps screen. It included a Task Killer button and a Used/Free RAM Indicator. It works extremely well.
Just like other last-gen Mediatek Devices, there are some typical features such as Gestures (Somatosensory), Scheduled Power On/Off, etc…
The pure and clean Android Experience hasn’t been impacted so much, only some parts of the OS are not like Stock Android, but nothing that can make its usage harder than usual.
Something that I have really appreciated is that CUBOT doesn’t install any third-party app (except Clean Master, removable), and there are no Chinese words anywhere, so the software has been properly developed for foreign markets. Really nice Company Policy.
Also, the UI is always responsive and smooth, with no lags at all. It’s nice to see that a Chinese company focuses its attention on the software, and I can confirm this because they are also providing frequent OTA Updates for their models.
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 3, GFXBench, AndroBench, PCMark (Work) and Vellamo (Browser & CPU Tests) to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – GPU Performance isn’t extremely good, OpenGL 3.1 & 3.0 tests require lots of power, and this is where the GPU falls.
AndroBench – eMMC Performance seems to be pretty high, especially as regards Reading Speed. Pretty good considering that this isn’t the last-gen of eMMC (4.5 instead of 5.0)
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmarks, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – As you can see, Gaming performance isn’t extremely low, there is enough power to handle games without major issues, you just won’t get ultra-high framerates.
GeekBench – CPU Performance is as good as other CPUs with the same configuration (4x Cortex-A53), decent for daily tasks.
GFXBench – Well...GFXBench score is low, really low. This benchmark suite is even more heavy than 3DMark, so you can’t expect a better score here.
PCMark – As you can see, only Video Playback score is a bit low. Pretty good.
Vellamo
Browser score tends to be a bit lower than expected, but Chrome score is just behind another device with an Octa-Core CPU, so this isn’t something that should be ignored.
The same for the CPU score, the device is just behind others with Octa-Core CPUs.
Summaring all results, I can say that this device provides enough power to handle daily tasks and light gaming. You can’t expect more from a Mediatek MT6735 CPU.
Conclusions
Unlike most of all Chinese companies, CUBOT publishes CE, FCC & ROHS certificates about each device, so if you’re interested about CUBOT devices safety, you can just go here: http://www.cubot.net/support/ and read them. This is something rare to find in China, and it makes you think how much a company is interested in foreign markets where Safety comes first. This doesn’t mean that China isn’t interested in Safety, but there are many users that want to know SAR Values, Certificates and so on about a Smartphone before buying it, so this is something pretty useful.
Summarizing all results, I can say that this is one of the best mid-range device available on the market. Great Quality Chassis, Bright and Sharp Display, Superb Battery Life and Excellent Call Quality are the major positive features about this device and I can really recommend it if you are searching for something that satisfies these qualities.
Price is pretty low, the device is sold by almost every shop that sells Chinese Smartphones and it has been certified to work on other markets than China.
Rating: 8.7
Packaging and Accessories: 8.5
Design and Materials: 9.5
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 7.5
Screen: 9
Camera: 7
Sound: 9
Battery Life: 9.5
Software: 9
OEM Support: 8
Price: 10
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/84ZmJ
Official Website: http://www.cubot.net/smartphones/h2
You can buy it on many online shops.​
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wow, nice review, do you have video review?
PetaX8 said:
wow, nice review, do you have video review?
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I don't make Video Reviews yet.
Does Cubot H2 have a notification LED?
Starzi said:
Does Cubot H2 have a notification LED?
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Sure, it has been written.
Battery Updates.
5000mAh Battery Capacity is confirmed.
About Battery Life, i used the device for two days without charging it, and this is the result. (4G On, WiFi almost everytime Off, Used as WiFi Hotspot, Medium/High Signal). I have rebooted the device 2 times, and starting for the first reboot it stopped recording the Signal stats, so don't worry about it. I haven't used Airplane Mode.
Looks good.
20160328 Stock ROM provided by CUBOT:
https://mega.nz/#!NNRHjY4Z!NU1BwEfZ-DlCN_iZgemweFPtsc0UL73bdFqBbRUjksU
Camera, eMMC and other Real Specs (taken from my H2):
It seems that this device won't be updated to Android 6.0.
Have you managed to get your notifications to show up on lock screen? As this is most frustrating and Cubot don't seem to have a fix...
Phr33ky said:
Have you managed to get your notifications to show up on lock screen? As this is most frustrating and Cubot don't seem to have a fix...
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No, that's because they are using a custom lockscreen.
Alberto96 said:
No, that's because they are using a custom lockscreen.
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Is there anyway to rectify this at all?
Phr33ky said:
Is there anyway to rectify this at all?
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I need to check it, but it would take time because this is something implemented in the framework.
Alberto96 said:
I need to check it, but it would take time because this is something implemented in the framework.
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Would be really interested to see if it's possible, as it's had me tearing my hair out, and Cubot seem to think the notifications should be popping up with no solution themselves.
Is there any possibility to instal cm on H2?
Can someone confirm if encrypt phone option (settings>security>encrypt phone) is available? thanks
mefi1 said:
Is there any possibility to instal cm on H2?
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Nope, unless someone works on it.
luks333 said:
Can someone confirm if encrypt phone option (settings>security>encrypt phone) is available? thanks
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Yes, it is.

HomTom HT10 - Hands on review of the budget-friendly Helio X20 device

Hi All,
First review so please be kind. I have also posted this at Mod Edit: Link removed.
HomTom HT10 - The eyes have it?
HomTom is a brand who are trying to make a name for themselves by releasing devices at a low price point with interesting features. In reality, HomTom is a subdivision of DooGee so there is shared experience in making decent devices at a reasonable price. I've owned a few lower spec DooGee phones in the past and have found them reasonable given the price tag so will be interested to see how the HomTom HT10 can make a name for itself with a top end set of specifications.
Key Spec:
SoC MediaTek Helio X20 10 Core
CPU 2 x 2.3GHz, 4 x 2.0GHz, 4 x 1.4GHz
GPU Mali T880, 700MHz
RAM 4GB, 933MHz
Storage 32GB + SD Slot
Screen 5.5 inch, 1920x1080, 401ppi
Camera Rear: 21MP, Front: 8MP
Battery 3200mAh
The HT10 is touted as coming with the same Iris Recognition technology that the ill-fated Samsung Note 7 utilised.
Unboxing
The HT10 comes in a plain dark blue box with HomTom branding and with slight wood effect. Opening the box reveals the phone, charger and cable. You don't get any headphones in the package which I'm fine with but the overall impression of the packaging seems a little dated.
A tab reveals a 'secret drawer' containing a wood-effect flip case, and very rudimentary and superfluous instruction booklet.
The flip case actually replaces the removable back cover so doesn't add a great deal of extra weight or size to the HT10 which was a nice touch, though the front is just a simple flap, there is no magnetic magic to keep it shut. final point to note is that this had a screen protector installed which is a bonus.
On the whole a rather boring retail box, I'm not swayed by such things but may be pretty underwhelming for some.
Hardware
Looks-wise the HT10 reminds me of my old Samsung Galaxy S2. A fairly inoffensive shape, with an array of sensors and notification LED at the top and off screen buttons at the bottom.
The first major whinge here is that the buttons are not back-lit, in this day and age this is only excusable in the cheapest of budget phones and certainly at this price point, for a manufacturers top device this is a total no no.
On the top of the phone is a trusty 3.5mm audio jack, and at the bottom we find a standard micro-usb port, 2 speaker grilles and the microphone. On the right side is the power button and volume control.
The screen features the now obligatory '2.5d' glass curving at the edges, and is a decent size though there is a slight element of cheating as there is probably 1mm of black space around the viewable screen meaning that the visible bezels are artificially small.
The rear of the phone has the camera, another microphone and a single LED flash. Again that is a little disappointing as the standard for a top spec phone these days is to have dual-LED flash at least. The back panel is removable and rather cheap feeling plastic, but there are no creaks or areas which depress under pressure.
The sides of the phone are made from metal and look nice - mainly matte silver with a beveled shiny edge. The power/volume buttons seem to have a little lateral play though and could perhaps be slightly better sized to give a more premium feel.
In terms of look and feel I think HomTom have done a reasonable job here. Nothing groundbreaking or uber premium, but it looks and feels nice enough.
Software
The HT10 runs a skinned version of Android 6.0 which seems to be called HomTom Fire. This has inexplicably altered some of the generic Google App icons, such as Play Store and Maps, and as per the majority of import phones does away with the App Drawer in favour of having all apps accessible from the main screens. Though this is what any iPhone user has to deal with, many Android users find this a difficult concept to deal with, but a solution would be to use a third party launcher such as Google Now or Nova. The other option of course is just dealing with it!
There is not a great amount of bloatware on the device which is refreshing, and the majority of what's there can be uninstalled anyway.
Display
I was impressed with the display HomTom have provided for the HT10. Everything looks crisp and clear. The screen is capable of going very bright and I had it set on auto-brightness defaulting to around 40%, and had no issues both at night or in bright sunlight. I could find no evidence of light bleed on my unit which you might expect from a 'budget' device.
Performance
This is where the HT10 really excels. The HT10 comes out very well against more established flagship phones using the main benchmark apps.
Geekbench results below.
Device - Single Core - Multi Core
Oneplus 3 - 1698 - 4015
HT10 - 1655 - 3298
Huawei Nexus 6P - 1212 - 2848
Antutu results below.
Device - Score
Huawei Honor 8 - 94164
HT10 - 87631
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge - 81087
What this shows us is that the HT10 benchmarks very well against phones that are more than twice the price. The Helio X20 SoC that powers the device definitely seems to hit the sweet spot, and we can presume that it's just the Mali GPU that is hindering the scores, but this shouldn't make too much difference if you're not a hardcore gamer
Obviously statistics don't really tell the full story but I've had no issues whatsoever in daily operation of the HT10. I can run all the apps I want with no discernible slowdown.
Iris Recognition Unlocking
Of course the elephant in the room that I've not discussed as yet is the HT10's USP, the 'Second Generation Iris Recognition Unlocking'. What this means in reality is that to unlock the phone you press the power button, then look at the screen. A small window opens up to show you what the iris recognition camera can see, and will tell you to move closer or further away if required. The iris recognition function was present in the top end Lumias released last year, but they were hardly big sellers, and the less said about the Galaxy Note 7 which also has this feature the better.
Apparently iris recognition is much more secure than fingerprint scanners, though I thought fingerprints were unique so I'm not really sure why the wheel needed to be reinvented. The iris recognition works perfectly well in standard light and even darkness, but is very flaky in even moderate sunlight outside. If the iris recognition is unable to match, you are reverted to the standard pin unlock, however irritatingly you still need to confirm the pin meaning an extra screen press when most devices now will unlock automatically after a the right pin is input.
Another annoyance is that the iris unlock takes precedence on the 'unlock screen', so if you are used to your music app telling you what song is playing on this screen you will need to unlock the phone in order to see this.
Overall, this feature is not a disaster, in fact it is certainly pretty cool and definitely (mostly) unique thing to have. I just wish it worked a bit better, and remain to be convinced that it in any way improves on fingerprint unlocking.
Camera
Unfortunately even though the camera in the HT10 (IMX230 Exmor RS) is the same as the one in the best camera phone I've ever owned, the Honor 7, the results from the HT10 were patchy to say the least.
In a well lit situation I could get some of the best photos I've ever got from an 'import phone' (though still miles away from the Honor 7's quality), but as soon as the lighting conditions were less than perfect the photos suffered massively.
In low light both inside and out photos had very poor detailing, with a flattening of features and a watercolour effect.
Hopefully HomTom will be able to resolve this with a software update, as well as the annoying bug which caused the LED flash to activate all the time in auto-flash mode, even in bright sunlight.
If anyone can advise the best way for me to share images I will do this
Other features
Battery life on the HT10 is pretty good. While I'm no power user I managed to get through every day with plenty to spare, at worst I managed to get it down to around 40%, but through general internet/app use and listening to music you'll have no issues at all. The device does apparently feature 'Pump Express' fast charging, but in reality I found it quite slow to charge the 3200 mAH, it took about 3 hours to complete a full charge from flat, though this may be because the charger supplied was not UK spec so I had to use a different one.
Connectivity is fine, I had no issues with my wireless speeds or range, and could get 4G everywhere that I'd expect. The HT10 is touted as a 'Global 4G' phone so all in all the connectivity gets a thumbs up. Bluetooth connected quickly and worked fine in my car for both music and phone functionality.
GPS worked absolutely fine both driving and walking. MediaTek phones have caused me a lot of woe in the past due to poorly performing GPS so they have clearly upped their game.
Music sounded fine through headphones. The loudspeaker is a little flat for music and could be louder for calls but even still it is acceptable.
Conclusion
Taken as a complete package the HT10 really does take some beating for the price. The Iris Recognition seems slightly pointless, and the camera performance isn't anywhere near flagship standard, but in every other area the HT10 performed well, so much so that it has become my 'daily driver' when not reviewing other devices.
Score: 8.5/10
Price when reviewed £199
Review sample kindly supplied by those lovely chaps at LightInTheBox. Head over to Mod Edit: Selling site link removed. for the cheapest price available!
Got myself a HT10 and I agree in your conclusion, but I experienced some touch freeze and poor LTE reception from time to time.
I really hope they fix the camera software asap. The quality is a deal breaker as for now, but the videoquality is strangely very good.
Thanks for the comment.
I've had one occasion where an area of the screen seemed to be unresponsive but this was resolved with a restart. I've not had any 4g problems but am in built up areas most of the time.
The camera performance is the biggest issue and if not resolved would be the one thing that turns me off this device, fingers crossed that it can be solved by an update.
recently bought the Ht10 super great phone feels amazing but i cannot get it to connect to verizons network to call, text or browse any ideas on how to get it working
My main complaints with the HomTom HT10
HARDWARE ISSUES
compass isn't available
NFC isn't available (it was advertised but removed!)
OTG isn't available (it was advertised but removed!)
network reception is bad (3G/4G)
Wi-Fi reception is bad (3G/4G)
not detecting/connecting 5Ghz Wi-Fi networks
audio speaker quality (distortion and not enough bass)
battery losing energy way too quickly
camera quality is bad on low light situation
SOFTWARE ISSUES
- battery saving mode is too aggressive (cannot easily modified for a bunch of Apps)
languages preferences are lost if IDLE or turned off (if you set french language it will comeback later to Netherlands. it could be because Belgium country has multiple official languages (french/nederlands/dutch) or if because the smartphone was shipped from .nl post)
- defaults apps choice in settings is too limited
- If you choose to protect your device with a password (PIN/password/pattern) for intrusion your device is going to freeze and you will have to reboot !
- hardware navigation buttons cannot be modified / edited
- HomTom OS is much less complete than MIUI8 (or even UMI OS)
MAJOR MISC PROBLEM:
There is no official forum to post bugs reports !
There is no updates or fixes for those issues announced.
There is no tutorials yet to flash/root.
Yes, same problem here....
Very HORRIBLE DEAL!!!
One Solution to ROOT FIND ! ! !
KingRoot apk finally works !!!
I tried this version: V4.9.7
by this file: NewKingrootV4.9.7_C152_B341_xda_release_2016_11_14 _20161115194410_105243.apk
IMPORTANT NOTE:
1) I find some bloatware that doesnt wipe out neither with a factory reset
2) the root is factoryreset resistant.
3) Some issue with Wathsapp only when sending stored images.
Best regards!
If you are happy with this please tnx me!
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Kingroot did not work for me
Westboy82 said:
Yes, same problem here....
Very HORRIBLE DEAL!!!
One Solution to ROOT FIND ! ! !
KingRoot apk finally works !!!
I tried this version: V4.9.7
by this file: NewKingrootV4.9.7_C152_B341_xda_release_2016_11_14 _20161115194410_105243.apk
IMPORTANT NOTE:
1) I find some bloatware that doesnt wipe out neither with a factory reset
2) the root is factoryreset resistant.
3) Some issue with Wathsapp only when sending stored images.
Best regards!
If you are happy with this please tnx me!
If you have trouble, please share!
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This method did not work for me, anyone else has any other suggestions on how to root this device?
Please double check the process, is the only way right now to root our Toilet-phone :fingers-crossed:
PS the updated version of the kingroot is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=22115

Nokia 7.1 First Hands On at the launch.

Hi fellow members, I attended the Nokia 7.1 launch event in London and thought I would share some information with you and give you my first impressions.
Lets start off with the build, it is constructed from a nice flat aluminium frame which is chamfered to give you a seemless blend of matte with a hint of bling. This is sandwiched between 2 panes of glass which Nokia told me comprise of gorilla glass 3 for the screen and a hardened glass around the back. It does look more expensive than the price would suggest, more on that later. There is no mistaking that distinct Nokia look that we have come to recognise in recent years. Weighing in at a mere 160 grams the 7.1 doesn’t feel bulky when using it and infact feels very manageable and easy to get around the phone. The power button and volume rocker are placed perfectly on the right side and Similarly the fingerprint sensor on the back of the 7.1 is comfortable to reach and works very well.
The Nokia 7.1 has a 3.5mm headphone jack up top, so thank you Nokia for not following the heard and of course there is a mono speaker which can be found traditionally on the bottom of the phone, next to that we have a USB type C charging port with support for fast charging capable of delivering 50% charge in just 30 minutes. While we are talking about the charging port lets touch on battery, yes we have a 3060mah battery which on paper doesn’t sound like much admittedly, however when you couple it with the Snapdragon 636 chipset all day battery life shouldn’t be an issue as it is a lot more efficient than the snapdragon 625 it replaces. The Nokia 7.1 also has 3GB of RAM with 32GB of onboard storage or there is also a 4GB RAM with 64GB storage model also available depending on your region and both variants can be expanded via a SD Card.
The Nokia 7.1 boasts a 5.84 inch Full HD+ display which includes HMDs new puredisplay technology, this was created from a partnership with Pixelworks as is said to enhance your viewing experience. Yes we have a notch and yes it has a 19:9 aspect ratio, so what I hear you cry. Well the kicker here is the Screen has HDR 10 support meaning you will get a colour accurate and smooth video experience which can take advantage of services like Netflix. The screen will automatically adjust brightness and contrast to suit the ambient lighting conditions and will also upscale SDR content to HDR in real time resulting in expanded dynamic range, increased brightness and enhanced colours.
Of course no review would be complete without talking about the Zeiss Optics, on the back we have a Dual sensor array comprising of a 12mp f1.8 camera complimented with a 5mp f2.4 depth sensor and around the front we have the 8mp f2.0 selfie camera. The camera app here is far from stock Android, there are various different modes available the most exciting of which is the bothie mode where you can take dual snapshots using the front and rear cameras at the same time. There is also a pro mode available which lets you manually adjust settings such as ISO and of course we have live Bokeh mode which allows you to adjust the blur intensity before taking your photo.
And finally the software, the Nokia 7.1 is an Androidone device, this means you are getting a stock software experience and a bonus is that you won’t have to deal with bloatware from networks or third party apps. It is running Oreo out the box but will be getting Pie by the end of November and being an Androidone device also guarantees software updates for 2 years and security patches for 3.
The Nokia 7.1 will go on preorder on the 5th of October across Europe starting at €319 and in the UK will go on sale from the 17th of October and will retail for £299 from the likes of carphonewarehouse & EE. It will be available to pre-order in the states from the 5th of October for $349 in gloss midnight blue and gloss steel and can be picked up from Amazon, Best Buy and B&H.
Any questions feel free to ask, if you want to see me spend some hands on time with the Nokia 7.1 then check out my video if my written review isn't enough at this link:
Nokia Review
ramheer said:
Hi fellow members, I attended the Nokia 7.1 launch event in London and thought I would share some information with you and give you my first impressions.
Lets start off with the build, it is constructed from a nice flat aluminium frame which is chamfered to give you a seemless blend of matte with a hint of bling. This is sandwiched between 2 panes of glass which Nokia told me comprise of gorilla glass 3 for the screen and a hardened glass around the back. It does look more expensive than the price would suggest, more on that later. There is no mistaking that distinct Nokia look that we have come to recognise in recent years. Weighing in at a mere 160 grams the 7.1 doesn’t feel bulky when using it and infact feels very manageable and easy to get around the phone. The power button and volume rocker are placed perfectly on the right side and Similarly the fingerprint sensor on the back of the 7.1 is comfortable to reach and works very well.
The Nokia 7.1 has a 3.5mm headphone jack up top, so thank you Nokia for not following the heard and of course there is a mono speaker which can be found traditionally on the bottom of the phone, next to that we have a USB type C charging port with support for fast charging capable of delivering 50% charge in just 30 minutes. While we are talking about the charging port lets touch on battery, yes we have a 3060mah battery which on paper doesn’t sound like much admittedly, however when you couple it with the Snapdragon 636 chipset all day battery life shouldn’t be an issue as it is a lot more efficient than the snapdragon 625 it replaces. The Nokia 7.1 also has 3GB of RAM with 32GB of onboard storage or there is also a 4GB RAM with 64GB storage model also available depending on your region and both variants can be expanded via a SD Card.
The Nokia 7.1 boasts a 5.84 inch Full HD+ display which includes HMDs new puredisplay technology, this was created from a partnership with Pixelworks as is said to enhance your viewing experience. Yes we have a notch and yes it has a 19:9 aspect ratio, so what I hear you cry. Well the kicker here is the Screen has HDR 10 support meaning you will get a colour accurate and smooth video experience which can take advantage of services like Netflix. The screen will automatically adjust brightness and contrast to suit the ambient lighting conditions and will also upscale SDR content to HDR in real time resulting in expanded dynamic range, increased brightness and enhanced colours.
Of course no review would be complete without talking about the Zeiss Optics, on the back we have a Dual sensor array comprising of a 12mp f1.8 camera complimented with a 5mp f2.4 depth sensor and around the front we have the 8mp f2.0 selfie camera. The camera app here is far from stock Android, there are various different modes available the most exciting of which is the bothie mode where you can take dual snapshots using the front and rear cameras at the same time. There is also a pro mode available which lets you manually adjust settings such as ISO and of course we have live Bokeh mode which allows you to adjust the blur intensity before taking your photo.
And finally the software, the Nokia 7.1 is an Androidone device, this means you are getting a stock software experience and a bonus is that you won’t have to deal with bloatware from networks or third party apps. It is running Oreo out the box but will be getting Pie by the end of November and being an Androidone device also guarantees software updates for 2 years and security patches for 3.
The Nokia 7.1 will go on preorder on the 5th of October across Europe starting at €319 and in the UK will go on sale from the 17th of October and will retail for £299 from the likes of carphonewarehouse & EE. It will be available to pre-order in the states from the 5th of October for $349 in gloss midnight blue and gloss steel and can be picked up from Amazon, Best Buy and B&H.
Any questions feel free to ask, if you want to see me spend some hands on time with the Nokia 7.1 then check out my video if my written review isn't enough at this link:
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This device Look like iPhone Xs
StarMobileAcessories said:
This device Look like iPhone Xs
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Not really tbh, in reality it is different in person
I just bought one from Chinese market, which is named Nokia X6. It comes without Playstore and even Calculator, Duo, etc. Even worse, it has some pre-installed apps in Chinese that can't be got rid of. I am looking for the international ROM on the forum but it seems to be in vain.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi A3, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi A3 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I was skeptical and very dismissive of it due to the 720p spec of the display. Yet having it changed my opinion. I placed it next to a 2k LCD and found little difference at a typical daily use distance. I can only see pixelation when viewing very carefully, or using lens.
With that concern out of the way, the 720p display was an excellent choice when it comes to saving battery life. In fact it probably has the longest battery run time of the current crop of xiaomi phones, in large part due to the 720p OLED. With the minute visible difference (I don't understand how people can claim it to be obvious inferior, when to me it clearly isn't), I'm actually willing to take the trade off for better battery life. It is far more vibrant than LCD to boot. Most people I showed it alongside with 1080p LCD on the redmi note7 picked the A3 display, due to color vibrancy.
The camera is excellent. I did side by side comparison with the 64mp gm1 on the redmi note 7. I have to say GM1 did a great job catching up to Sony, but the IMX586 still have the clarity edge at low lights with less noise and clearer RAW images (yup I compared using RAW to take post processing out of the way). However, I can't really say it's a clear winner, as IMX results seem to "smudge" a bit. I'm wondering if by using 48mp marketing gimmick that requires pixel binding was actually a step backwards compared to just straight large-cell 12mp sensor (yet lower MP count sells fewer phones evidently). Nevertheless, no complaints with the cameras. Wide angle and front sensor are both excellent as well. A great phone for selfie lovers, and better than most xiaomi phones except maybe mi9.
Loudspeaker is loud but only above around 800-900hz. So even mids are kinda subdued, and shrieking sounds are pretty loud. Mine buzzes at mid range frequencies which is really annoying. Some built in notifications would result in a buzz at the loudest and 2nd loudest volumes. It's not terribly loud and so the loudest volume is easily required when outdoors or in an urban setting. I think mine's probably defective, as it developed after a few days (past the refund period. :-/) It's not exactly malfunctioning, but annoying nevertheless.
I still love the phone, because of the smaller form factor for true one handed handling. It feels thin and light, yet packs a punch in terms of display colors, battery life, and camera quality. If it can be rooted with AOSP rom, or have native gcam support (I use RMN7's port and it works sans wide angle), it'd be even nicer.
It definitely feels like a better build, with better looks and feel over A2. I think it's a great little package, and if you can get it at a good price, it really is bringing the flagship camera and battery life with clean android to the masses. Something Pixel 3a is trying to do but A3 truly does it better in many ways, not the least its price.
Phone is pretty nice, but it needs some custom rom support. I feel stock is not so optimised as it could be, sometimes it slows down opening apps etc.
Also, max screen brigtness is too low. I didn't pay attention to this while buying it, but anything below 400+ nits is too dim on sunlight.
After using both, Miui and Stock Android, i feel stock is getting overrated. Miui is as fast and packed with features and customization, and Miui's dark mode is way better than google's implemetation.
I personally think Cc9/Mi9 Lite is a better buy although it's cost is a little higher.
Absolutely love this phone, resolution doesn't bother as much as you think it would. My only complain with this phone is vibration motor, but apart from that, it's a fantastic phone (probably the best) in this price range. Biggest loving factors for me are
*Super fast storage (UFS 2.1)
*sAmoled screen
*Build quality and size
*Stock Android
Battery life is super. That's very important for many people
I REALLY recommend that phone, it's amazing for the price... the display is not disappointing as a lot of people say (and anyway, who the F really needs a 1080p display??? what for??? it's not as if the phone was the size of a TV!!!). It's rootable, fast, has a great camera, but doesn't have NFC... In my case, I didn't want it anyway (had it on previous phone, and only used it to show off when reading CC details).
After about two weeks of usage, I really like the phone. Really suits my disabled hands. I wish the screen were a little wider than tall because the extra height doesn't help me so much but extra width would make a lot of things bigger and easier.
I got this for the OLED screen and was not disappointed. Would not trade for a better spec'ed LCD screen. I am all in on OLED. Now do I wish it were 1080 so text would be crisper? Sure. That or a non pentile screen. But for this price, it's not happening at this point in time.
Speed and responsiveness is quite good. It does slow down and lags at time but overall I'm happy with it.
Camera is fine. I don't take pictures much so as long as the pictures I do take aren't embarrassingly bad I'm happy. And I think it's way better than not bad.
Where it falls down is in the audio department. I'm coming from a hand me down iPhone 5 and by comparison the speaker is tinny and kind of painful to listen to. The 3.5mm output isn't great either. I notice a real drop in quality with my grado sr60. I've done the af.resampler.quality tweak too. I'm using an equalizer to make it sound better, but wish they hadn't cut this corner.
Overall, if there's a better OLED phone at this price I don't know about it. I would be willing to pay more to get 1080p and better audio, but not like $150 more after tax like the Mi 9T or Samsung S50. I wish Xiaomi had a phone in the middle. I don't need pop up selfie camera or fancy back. I would be happy with a plastic body and have the money go inside the phone. Lighter to boot.
I love u
still loving it. Audio recorder should be available in the next update.
I love my A3 too. Battery life is insane, sadly i find the Finger Unlock sensor very very slow. It takes so long to unlock that i always using a Pin number instead to be faster. :crying:
I love it. Just got mine a week ago and I really like it. Certainly reminds me of Nexus in many ways. A lot better than MIUI iny opinion. Used Redmi 4X before.
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Question Pixel 6 GCam mod?

Hi all,
This may be in the too soon to tell or no one knows category of question but "Does anyone know if there will be GCam mods on the Pixel 6Pro GCam to further improve it's capabilities like is the case with the ports to other phones?"
rav101 said:
Hi all,
This may be in the too soon to tell or no one knows category of question but "Does anyone know if there will be GCam mods on the Pixel 6Pro GCam to further improve it's capabilities like is the case with the ports to other phones?"
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the gcam mods there to enable software features that are not-authorized for older or off-brand phones? Wouldn't really give you anything for the P6 since its the newest and has all the new super magic features already.
96carboard said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the gcam mods there to enable software features that are not-authorized for older or off-brand phones? Wouldn't really give you anything for the P6 since its the newest and has all the new super magic features already.
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Yeah I'm not sure if what they do with gcam takes any of its features and dials up the scale to eleven and therefore would add value on the main Pixel device of the time.
I'm happy either way because as you say, the latest pixel already has amazing goodies!
I loved the modded GCAM on my Pixel 3, because it allowed me to dial down the noise reduction and sharpening for the JPEGs. As the Pixel 6 is again guilty of, the stock JPEGs do not even come close to the level of detail the DNG files allow. But with those tweaks, I did not need to go to lightroom with most pictures, that I deemed important. 95% came out great with the modded GCAM.
I really cannot wait for someone to make this possible for Pixel 6. Such great hardware, such a baaad set up JPEG engine.
I put this on similar threads; it's important that as many people as possible make themselves heard. All of you concerned about the jpeg over-processing issue, please weigh in here, so that Google can see our complaints: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/208860802
The more people who post, the more likely the complaint will be noticed. (Sorry if this appears to be spam; it's strategic.)
Gnaius said:
I put this on similar threads; it's important that as many people as possible make themselves heard. All of you concerned about the jpeg over-processing issue, please weigh in here, so that Google can see our complaints: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/208860802
The more people who post, the more likely the complaint will be noticed. (Sorry if this appears to be spam; it's strategic.)
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I honestly don't think that gooble gives a damn. There are issues in that system that are over a decade old with tens of thousands of responses that have not been addressed.
There's a gcam mod for pixel devices only that works very well.
Has lovely b&w mode and swaps to zoom cam.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-MWP/f/dl14/
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I honestly don't think that gooble gives a damn. There are issues in that system that are over a decade old with tens of thousands of responses that have not been addressed.
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And your Aosp Is better?
96carboard said:
I honestly don't think that gooble gives a damn. There are issues in that system that are over a decade old with tens of thousands of responses that have not been addressed.
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You may be right, but you may not. That page *seems* to be monitored: someone, for instance, has established a hierarchy of priorities. Is this smoke and mirrors? Maybe. But Google gets their bug reports from somewhere, and why wouldn't this be the place?
Also, this new report gives me a tiny bit of hope. On the list of 100 or so fixes in the December update you find this one, specific to the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro:
General image quality improvements in camera preview/capture.
(@Golf c — I had to look up that acronym. I take it you're referring to the American Society of Orthopedic Professionals?)
I purchased the pro and had to return it due to prinicple on the 48 mp being marketed as un-Binned, But it is... but stayed with the 6 because i wanted a new phone over the pixel 2. The pixel 2 camera is in every pixel since it but the 6 and pro.
Day after day i sent this as feedback in my camera app and in the system. If they did care they would have released it with options for all its features... what they want to do is not have yoy recoding and uploading to social media 4k videos that those systems cannot afford to host your needlessly high detail on a day to day.
this is the fedback i sent: "
Pixel 6
Google Camera App Feature Request:
"Enable options to output Photo file resolutions equaling near 50 megapixels OR 100 megapixels for main camera sensor."
"Options to take full resolution photo."
"Output file resolutions larger than 12.5 megapixels."
"Options to disable Pixel Binning."
Samsung clearly stated the sensor is capable of output at these resolutions, source:
"Samsung Electronics, a world leader in advanced semiconductor technology, today introduced Samsung ISOCELL GN1, a new 50-megapixel (Mp) image sensor with large 1.2μm-sized pixels. The ISOCELL GN1 is Samsung’s first image sensor to offer both Dual Pixel and Tetracell technologies. Thanks to the relatively larger pixel size, the GN1 brings image sensor performance to a new level with a combination of elevated light sensitivity for stellar low-light photos and DSLR-level auto-focus speeds, optimized for more dynamic picture-taking experiences.
“With innovative pixel technologies, Samsung has been at the forefront of offering high-performance image sensors that closely cater to increasingly diversifying market needs. The ISOCELL GN1 is part of that commitment to deliver stunning images to consumers in any environment,” said Yongin Park, executive vice president of sensor business at Samsung Electronics. “We will continue to introduce image sensor solutions at the cutting-edge that will lead the next trends in mobile photography.”
Creating desirable images is an indispensable element for today’s smartphone users who are well accustomed to visually grasping and cherishing special moments, wherever they are. To address various imaging preferences of the users, some smartphone makers put more emphasis on extremely detailed images with ultra-high resolutions, while some choose bigger pixels for bright results in low-light environments. The new Samsung ISOCELL GN1 fulfills these multiple needs at once with Dual Pixel and Tetracell technologies.
The GN1 brings best-in-class auto-focusing with 100 million phase detection auto-focus (PDAF) agents. Samsung’s Dual Pixel technology places two photodiodes side-by-side within a single pixel that can receive light from different angles for phase detection. With all of the sensor’s active pixels working as auto-focusing agents, the GN1 can detect and focus onto a desired still or moving object from every corner in an instant, even in low-light conditions. When capturing images, a single pixel output is created by merging the outputs from the two photodiodes within the pixel. Samsung also provides a software algorithm that takes light information from each photodiode to produce image resolutions comparable to 100Mp.
For ultimate low-light photography, the GN1 adopts Tetracell technology, a pixel-merging technique that improves the pixels’ capacity to capture and process more light. By binning four pixel signals into one, Tetracell doubles the image sensor’s pixel size to 2.4μm and quadruples the light sensitivity to take brighter 12.5Mp photographs. With improved light sensitivity combined with a powerful auto-focusing solution, the GN1 is able to focus on an object quickly even in extreme low-light environment to deliver both brighter and sharper results.
In addition to Dual Pixel and Tetracell technologies, the GN1 comes with Smart-ISO that intelligently selects the optimal ISO, real-time HDR that captures the scene in multiple exposures simultaneously, and gyro-based electronic image stabilization (EIS) that takes sharp images and video even when in motion. For premium video quality, the image sensor supports video recording at up to 8K resolution at 30 frames-per-second (fps)."
https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...with-faster-auto-focusing-and-brighter-images
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"Instantly lock in on an area or object and produce sharp images in motion-packed situations. Dual Pixel technology accelerates the speed and boosts the precision of ISOCELL GN1’s autofocus capabilities, making it simpler for users to get clear and crisp pictures. Each pixel in the 50MP image sensor carries two photodiodes, allowing the component to execute ultra-fast autofocus and capture moving objects no matter where they are in the frame. Also, ISOCELL GN1 takes light information from each photodiode to produce a 100MP resolution photograph by a software algorithm."
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/isocell/mobile-image-sensors/isocell-gn1/"
do you think me sending this did anything?
likely a little. but yes it is true that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. if those who don't like it dont speak up then well that is how it will be accepted to be.
whenever google releases the ai bots to build the phone based on what all this feedback should lead them to understand is when you will have a top of the line device built by them... until then they are making budget devices still.
but from my research samsung has locked google out of the software required to complete the upscaling algorithm etc etc. that wasnt in google and samsungs contract or some other bull, becasue it can clearly do it as the manufacture boosts
"produces an output comparable to" does not mean "produces an output of"
This said, though, a 50MP un-binned option in the camera settings would've been cool
Solomon M said:
I purchased the pro and had to return it due to prinicple on the 48 mp being marketed as un-Binned, But it is... but stayed with the 6 because i wanted a new phone over the pixel 2. The pixel 2 camera is in every pixel since it but the 6 and pro.
Day after day i sent this as feedback in my camera app and in the system. If they did care they would have released it with options for all its features... what they want to do is not have yoy recoding and uploading to social media 4k videos that those systems cannot afford to host your needlessly high detail on a day to day.
this is the fedback i sent: "
Pixel 6
Google Camera App Feature Request:
"Enable options to output Photo file resolutions equaling near 50 megapixels OR 100 megapixels for main camera sensor."
"Options to take full resolution photo."
"Output file resolutions larger than 12.5 megapixels."
"Options to disable Pixel Binning."
Samsung clearly stated the sensor is capable of output at these resolutions, source:
"Samsung Electronics, a world leader in advanced semiconductor technology, today introduced Samsung ISOCELL GN1, a new 50-megapixel (Mp) image sensor with large 1.2μm-sized pixels. The ISOCELL GN1 is Samsung’s first image sensor to offer both Dual Pixel and Tetracell technologies. Thanks to the relatively larger pixel size, the GN1 brings image sensor performance to a new level with a combination of elevated light sensitivity for stellar low-light photos and DSLR-level auto-focus speeds, optimized for more dynamic picture-taking experiences.
“With innovative pixel technologies, Samsung has been at the forefront of offering high-performance image sensors that closely cater to increasingly diversifying market needs. The ISOCELL GN1 is part of that commitment to deliver stunning images to consumers in any environment,” said Yongin Park, executive vice president of sensor business at Samsung Electronics. “We will continue to introduce image sensor solutions at the cutting-edge that will lead the next trends in mobile photography.”
Creating desirable images is an indispensable element for today’s smartphone users who are well accustomed to visually grasping and cherishing special moments, wherever they are. To address various imaging preferences of the users, some smartphone makers put more emphasis on extremely detailed images with ultra-high resolutions, while some choose bigger pixels for bright results in low-light environments. The new Samsung ISOCELL GN1 fulfills these multiple needs at once with Dual Pixel and Tetracell technologies.
The GN1 brings best-in-class auto-focusing with 100 million phase detection auto-focus (PDAF) agents. Samsung’s Dual Pixel technology places two photodiodes side-by-side within a single pixel that can receive light from different angles for phase detection. With all of the sensor’s active pixels working as auto-focusing agents, the GN1 can detect and focus onto a desired still or moving object from every corner in an instant, even in low-light conditions. When capturing images, a single pixel output is created by merging the outputs from the two photodiodes within the pixel. Samsung also provides a software algorithm that takes light information from each photodiode to produce image resolutions comparable to 100Mp.
For ultimate low-light photography, the GN1 adopts Tetracell technology, a pixel-merging technique that improves the pixels’ capacity to capture and process more light. By binning four pixel signals into one, Tetracell doubles the image sensor’s pixel size to 2.4μm and quadruples the light sensitivity to take brighter 12.5Mp photographs. With improved light sensitivity combined with a powerful auto-focusing solution, the GN1 is able to focus on an object quickly even in extreme low-light environment to deliver both brighter and sharper results.
In addition to Dual Pixel and Tetracell technologies, the GN1 comes with Smart-ISO that intelligently selects the optimal ISO, real-time HDR that captures the scene in multiple exposures simultaneously, and gyro-based electronic image stabilization (EIS) that takes sharp images and video even when in motion. For premium video quality, the image sensor supports video recording at up to 8K resolution at 30 frames-per-second (fps)."
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-1-2μm-50mp-isocell-gn1-with-faster-auto-focusing-and-brighter-images
AND
"Instantly lock in on an area or object and produce sharp images in motion-packed situations. Dual Pixel technology accelerates the speed and boosts the precision of ISOCELL GN1’s autofocus capabilities, making it simpler for users to get clear and crisp pictures. Each pixel in the 50MP image sensor carries two photodiodes, allowing the component to execute ultra-fast autofocus and capture moving objects no matter where they are in the frame. Also, ISOCELL GN1 takes light information from each photodiode to produce a 100MP resolution photograph by a software algorithm."
https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/isocell/mobile-image-sensors/isocell-gn1/"
do you think me sending this did anything?
likely a little. but yes it is true that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. if those who don't like it dont speak up then well that is how it will be accepted to be.
whenever google releases the ai bots to build the phone based on what all this feedback should lead them to understand is when you will have a top of the line device built by them... until then they are making budget devices still.
but from my research samsung has locked google out of the software required to complete the upscaling algorithm etc etc. that wasnt in google and samsungs contract or some other bull, becasue it can clearly do it as the manufacture boosts
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Dude I think you just need to buy an DSLR pal lol
kevinireland11 said:
Dude I think you just need to buy an DSLR pal lol
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Or, yall could hold these clearly capable companies, to the quality you expect from them.... And unless you do, & many more, do you think they have incentive to put all we want and need in a single device?:
IRDA current optimized for mobile
Wi-Fi a,b,g,n,ac,ax or current hotspot etc etc
Cellular 1,2,3,4,5G
Bluetooth ...that is current tech
Indestructible
Easily repairable for minimal loss to recycle / replace
Etc
A camera [ ...that is current tech and enough pixels that the other binned method could be used in low light or set to max resolution as in "un-binned" which is not just software. Google please give us a capable, quality, customizable camera (like you did with the Pixel 2), then plenty of options to be able to get the image we desire. ]
Etc
NFC etc
FM radio
AM radio
Fm & AM Transmitter
Built-in compatibility for universal Bluetooth keyboard/mouse HID for universal function without dongle...
I dream too big right.... Least I'm not asking for a clear foldable sheet of plastic that is 30 +yrs from now.
Realistically all this capable hardware could be easily implemented into a single device... Even the psp 1000 had IRDA ...
Like whoever holds these patients preventing this hardware from being given to the consumer, a real device capable of what science has to offer (dream bigger with the device you use everyday, and make it know you'd like a feature like ip68, 1080p, but what about all the rest... Where is the build your own cell phones? ...Some people might not like what weight is required for each component:
Image a Google kiosk where you'd like to upgrade your phone:
1: You use you current phone to pay when you get there with nfc
2. You insert your phone.
3. Select the on screen available components and watch it remove the back and upgrade it with robotic arms as you commit the changes.
4. Spits back out your newly upgraded device, same screen if you didn't choose to replace it etc etc.
https://www.onearmy.earth/project/phonebloks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Ara
... one that has a magnet in a coil like those flashlights so to charge you shake it..... Come on people let the ai build it test it in the lab then after multiple continued test release the device to manufacturing... The human brains should start pioneering after they correctly test the ai to their knowledge for integrity. Other than how to see the connections upon all the branches of science to one another shouldn't be hard with access to the resources an ai would.
GOOGLE AND ANYONE ELSE: COVID-19 IS OVER: GET BACK TO BEING SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR QUALITY OF WORK. WE ALL DEPEND ON EACH OTHER TO SURVIVE.
The fact is if we really wanted some futuristic technology in our hand, we have to start requesting it, and not buy otherwise.
We have cool stuff now, I'm excited to see what options we will have when I'm old.
Consider these two:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Voyager (Nov 2007)
https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-z-flip4/ (current)
Great improvement but while looking at current trends doesn't look like much from the Fold3 & 4.
Solomon M said:
Or you all could hold these clearly capable companies to the quality you expect from them.... And unless you do, & many more, do you think they have incentive to put all we want and need in a single device:
IRDA current optimized for mobile
Wi-Fi a,b,g,n,ac,ax or current hotspot etc etc
Cellular 1,2,3,4,5G
Bluetooth ...that is current tech
Indestructible
Easily repairable for minimal loss to recycle / replace
Etc
A camera [ ...that is current tech and enough pixels that the other binned method could be used in low light or set to max resolution as in "un-binned" which is not just software. Google please give us a real camera, then plenty of options to be able to get the image we desire. ]
Etc
FM radio
AM radio
Fm & AM Transmitter
Bluetooth keyboard HID built-in for universal keyboard function...
I dream too big right.... Least I'm not asking for a clear foldable sheet of plastic that is 30 +yrs from now.
Realistically all this capable hardware could be easily implemented into a single device... Even the psp 1000 had IRDA ...
Like whoever holds these patients preventing this hardware form being given to the consumer, a real device .. one that has a magnet in a coil like those flashlights so to charge you shake it..... Come on people let the ai build it test it in the lab then after multiple continued test release the device to manufacturing... The human brains should start pioneering after they correctly test the ai to their knowledge for integrity. Other than how to see the connections upon all the branches of science to one another shouldn't be hard with access to the resources a ai would.
GOOGLE AND ANYONE ELSE: COVID-19 IS OVER GET BACK TO BEING SERIOUS ABOUT YOUR JOB. WE ALL DEPEND ON EACH OTHER TO SURVIVE.
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You never listened to "The Trees" by Rush before. Have you. Like. Heard it? That's possible...but have you listened to it.
That's why.
I have an idea:
People are intelligent enough to constantly do the bare minimum and still get the reward.
Logic says why would they care, since they are still getting the reward if they produce **** or gold.
Solomon M said:
Oh I know what it is:
People are intelligent enough to constantly do the bare minimum and still get the reward.
Logic says why would they care, since they are still getting the reward if they produce **** or gold.
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Don't get me wrong, in a matter of fact:
"Google is my favorite company."
"If Google made each device like the Pixel 2: I would save for it every year, attempt to purchase it, and be excited for it."
--to do this would be a total waste of resources and time, unless they make the parts then cover them in a nanofilm to protect from water --all the internal components, then manufacture those parts to be easily changed and upgraded, But then also actively want them back and expect them back so as to recycle and then reuse the clearly not yet broken parts.... Idk just seems like to me there could be a cycle instead of a line.
rav101 said:
Hi all,
This may be in the too soon to tell or no one knows category of question but "Does anyone know if there will be GCam mods on the Pixel 6Pro GCam to further improve it's capabilities like is the case with the ports to other phones?"
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What I have found is the gcam modded APK here:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-MWP/
I use the beta 3 app because the beta 4 & 5 keep crashing.
Then I set a bunch of custom stuff in the settings to output an average file size of 7.5mb compared to the stock 1.9mb .
I also specifically did not diable the Pixel 6 default camera app because the updates are done internal to the app and I believe it benefits the modded Gcam app, but I Turn Off permission to "modify system settings" for the default camera app ...
I have cleared the data on the gcam modded app multiple times but it is worth it.
Here is the config. But I hon know how to import the config [attached file.]
I do not work with these files and do not know if it will work for you. But if not and you'd like more info I could attempt to list out all my changes after a data clear for the beta 3 I use which fixes a bunch AND WITHOUT ROOT.
Use determination and figure out the best settings for yourself... If you're serious about it then figure it out & then you let me (us) know so we can get images we want as well.
Solomon M said:
What I have found is the gcam modded APK here:
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-MWP/
I use the beta 3 app because the beta 4 & 5 keep crashing.
Then I set a bunch of custom stuff in the settings to output an average file size of 7.5mb compared to the stock 1.9mb .
I also specifically did not diable the Pixel 6 default camera app because the updates are done internal to the app and I believe it benefits the modded Gcam app, but I Turn Off permission to "modify system settings" for the default camera app ...
I have cleared the data on the gcam modded app multiple times but it is worth it.
Here is the config. But I hon know how to import the config [attached file.]
I do not work with these files and do not know if it will work for you. But if not and you'd like more info I could attempt to list out all my changes after a data clear for the beta 3 I use which fixes a bunch AND WITHOUT ROOT.
Use determination and figure out the best settings for yourself... If you're serious about it then figure it out & then you let me (us) know so we can get images we want as well.
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I can't install it to the .xml, could you send screenshots of your configuration. Thank you very much!
EDIT> there I could thank you!
nicobonavento said:
I can't install it to the .xml, could you send screenshots of your configuration. Thank you very much!
EDIT> there I could thank you!
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Yeah sure, here is images of settings and etc.
Hope this helps.
This isn't the best, likely. I am still toying with it to find what I find works best for me.
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Okay, I've been experimenting for months, and these are by far the best setting I've come up with. I'm now doing professional work with this phone, and when it comes to wide-angle images, my editors often prefer the Pixel 6 Pro photos to similar shots taken with a DSLR. (I don't tell them which is which.) The fact is that very few wide-angle lenses on a conventional camera — even the most expensive — can compete with a phone when it comes to distortion, edge sharpness, etc.

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