Hi folks. I have been using the device for a few months, but have not had great speeds on 5g. In fact, the 5g speed is the same as the 4g speed when I test.
I then took the SIM out and put it in the Poco F3 and 5g speed went from 10 to 130 (down).
Has anyone had similar experience with 5g connection? I am not sure if might be the Poco gets a stronger signal strength, or whether there are other issues. Both devices are compatible (and sold by) my carrier.
5G is very dependent on near direct line of sight to the tower, distant and available bandwidth. 5G may not be fully integrated where you are, but it will probably improve over time.
Many websites limit their bandwidth and they end up being the bottleneck even with 4G.
5G requires more energy so disable it if it gives you no speed benefit and boosts your battery life.
5G works well if you have a good signal and are transfering large amounts of data. Otherwise it's wasteful and not needed.
Yes, but Samsung and F3 tested in same location within 5 minutes of each other. Samsung got 10 down. F3 got 130 down. Same network. Same sim
Magic-design said:
Yes, but Samsung and F3 tested in same location within 5 minutes of each other. Samsung got 10 down. F3 got 130 down. Same network. Same sim
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It's probably the local network...
4G works well for me so I deliberately blew off 5G. Lots of problems with 5G, still.
Plus my unlimited data 4G plan is grandfathered.
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Anyone know if tmobile will get the 5g? I really see it as an upgrade from the note 9 if im getting 5G.
Or will the Verizon 5g model work with tmobile future 5G bands?
I believe 5G models for the other carriers will trickle out later this year or early next year. By the time T-Mobile builds out their 5G network to the point I need a 5G phone, I'll be on the N11 or N12. I wouldn't worry about it.
All the other big 3 carriers will get them. Verizon have a 3month exclusive on the 5G handset.
Qualcom is working on newer 5G modem, due to come out in the next few months, maybe it will find it's way into non VZW Notes. Personally I don't care, I'm on 200Mbs Wifi most of the time, which is fast enough for everything I do and otherwise I usually get 50-100 Mbs LTE signal, which is fast enough even to stream 4k video. At least in my experience most of the time limiting factor in download speeds is originating server, not the network speed, so 5G may not make as much difference as some hope. Also, once the 5G networks get expanded and many people start using it, they better upgrade infrastructure beyond 5G network, like servers and interconnects, because any network is as fast as it's slowest part.
Before I get this phone, I have a question about 5G. I currently have an A71 that I will be returning (for a variety of reasons) and the 5G implementation is terrible. I'm hoping this isn't an across-the-board issue for 5G phones this year... Here is the problem I see:
What in 5G mode, I will sometimes get a signal and sometimes not. I'll do a Google search and it says "no internet". Then I turn off 5G and change it to LTE/3G/2G and suddenly I'm fine and surfing the net without any issues. I expected a 5G phone to use 4G LTE whenever 5G isn't strong, seamlessly. Not report 'no internet'.
Anyone experience that here with this phone?
Note: My provider is T-Mobile, that I don't suspect that should make a difference in how network switching occurs.
I live in a fringe area where T Mobile 5G rarely pops up. When in the downtown area I get 5G constantly. I don't see any jaw dropping speed difference between 5G and LTE. What I do notice in either mode is data is received in bursts. This is noticable during app updates and speed tests. I never get a "no internet". Switching between 5G and LTE is seamless.
used to have the same issues but there were some system updates that i think fixed them, also my 5g coverage has improved - so i dont have these issues anymore but i think is something that depends a lot on the network rather than the phone
T-Mobile definitely doesn't have the same coverage in my area as Big Red. It's pretty sporadic. There are times that I show a full 5G signal but pages don't load.
I'm hoping the Sprint merger will improve things. Although I don't think T-Mobile's low frequency 5G will deliver the fastest speeds, I'm hoping it will give better penetration in buildings.
Fortunately, I have Comcast/Xfinity for both home and work Internet, so I can use their hotspots.
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T-Mobile definitely doesn't have the same coverage in my area as Big Red. It's pretty sporadic. There are times that I show a full 5G signal but pages don't load.
I'm hoping the Sprint merger will improve things. Although I don't think T-Mobile's low frequency 5G will deliver the fastest speeds, I'm hoping it will give better penetration in buildings.
Fortunately, I have Comcast/Xfinity for both home and work Internet, so I can use their hotspots.
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From a quick call with Tmo tech people, even when the phone shows the 5G icon, do not expect to have any better speeds than LTE. Only if you are on the mmWAVE frequencies you may see higher speeds, and those are not really deployed anywhere than center of few cities. Then be aware those bands can not go through walls.. so most likely you may be in the 600Mhz band (U71) which is 37 to 100 Mbit only, but at least will have better coverage than LTE.
Bottom line- the 5G era is now a toddler learning to walk, not run.. I get most of my high speed over WiFi as before..
I have a Sprint S20 5G flashed with the U1 firmware, and am just trying to make sure that I am taking full advantage of T-Mobile's Network? I thought that the hardware/radio bands was identical across the different U variants? The icon at the top, which I know can mean nothing, says 5G. But in settings the network is showing up as LTE. The LTE Discovery app is showing I'm on band 66, but it also says 5G NR: Connected! It looks like my area should be well covered in 5G, so I was hoping to make sure that I'm taking full advantage, or at least am able to?
Is there any advantage to flashing the T-Mobile firmware?
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I have a Sprint S20 5G flashed with the U1 firmware, and am just trying to make sure that I am taking full advantage of T-Mobile's Network? I thought that the hardware/radio bands was identical across the different U variants? The icon at the top, which I know can mean nothing, says 5G. But in settings the network is showing up as LTE. The LTE Discovery app is showing I'm on band 66, but it also says 5G NR: Connected! It looks like my area should be well covered in 5G, so I was hoping to make sure that I'm taking full advantage, or at least am able to?
Is there any advantage to flashing the T-Mobile firmware?
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No point in flashing U instead of U1. As soon as the phone boots with a SIM, it performs another session and gets tuned to the network by the SIM. Your channels and speed will not change. BTW , I talked to a TMO service and support, and right now although 5G, speeds in most cases are at the 100M byte range. Only few lucky ones may see 1Gig if they are out in the open on a mmWave channel . However this technology is aimed at the next years for autonomous driving and other new technologies, not so much for phones, and it will not have reception inside buildings (heck, holding the phone will most likely block that signal without external antenna, and it comes from an engineer here)
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Just make sure you allow 5G to connect. Phone might be set to LTE as fastest..
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No point in flashing U instead of U1. As soon as the phone boots with a SIM, it performs another session and gets tuned to the network by the SIM. Your channels and speed will not change. BTW , I talked to a TMO service and support, and right now although 5G, speeds in most cases are at the 100M byte range. Only few lucky ones may see 1Gig if they are out in the open on a mmWave channel . However this technology is aimed at the next years for autonomous driving and other new technologies, not so much for phones, and it will not have reception inside buildings (heck, holding the phone will most likely block that signal without external antenna, and it comes from an engineer here)
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Just make sure you allow 5G to connect. Phone might be set to LTE as fastest..
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no offense but engineers dont always know what theyre talking about.. tnobiles nationwide 5g network penetrates well through buildings and avg speed for it is less than 100mbps.. to get 1gbps needs to be on a different 5g network (i forget what its called) which will not be bationwide or have good penetration since it has low range and needs a lot of towers in a small area so will likely only b used in major cities so seeing as hes getting over 100mbps on tmo 5g is better than average and is definitely 5g
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No point in flashing U instead of U1. As soon as the phone boots with a SIM, it performs another session and gets tuned to the network by the SIM. Your channels and speed will not change. BTW , I talked to a TMO service and support, and right now although 5G, speeds in most cases are at the 100M byte range. Only few lucky ones may see 1Gig if they are out in the open on a mmWave channel . However this technology is aimed at the next years for autonomous driving and other new technologies, not so much for phones, and it will not have reception inside buildings (heck, holding the phone will most likely block that signal without external antenna, and it comes from an engineer here)
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Just make sure you allow 5G to connect. Phone might be set to LTE as fastest..
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Thanks. I found out from another user, and by looking up in the service mode with a dialer code, that I was actually picking up 5G through T-Mobile band 66 connected somehow with band 2 or 71. So all was well. That speed I got was surely plenty fast for me.
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no offense but engineers dont always know what theyre talking about.. tnobiles nationwide 5g network penetrates well through buildings and avg speed for it is less than 100mbps.. to get 1gbps needs to be on a different 5g network (i forget what its called) which will not be bationwide or have good penetration since it has low range and needs a lot of towers in a small area so will likely only b used in major cities so seeing as hes getting over 100mbps on tmo 5g is better than average and is definitely 5g
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You just said what I claimed. The only 1GIG speeds are om mmWave bands, and like 90% of us seeing 5G icon are on the 600Mhz long wave that is 100M speeds, or the medium wave , again 100M speeds. I get 5G all day long, and never more than 200Mbit once, and 60-100Mbit otherwise. No mmWave where I am .. so we say the same thing.
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You just said what I claimed. The only 1GIG speeds are om mmWave bands, and like 90% of us seeing 5G icon are on the 600Mhz long wave that is 100M speeds, or the medium wave , again 100M speeds. I get 5G all day long, and never more than 200Mbit once, and 60-100Mbit otherwise. No mmWave where I am .. so we say the same thing.
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Adding speed tests
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You just said what I claimed. The only 1GIG speeds are om mmWave bands, and like 90% of us seeing 5G icon are on the 600Mhz long wave that is 100M speeds, or the medium wave , again 100M speeds. I get 5G all day long, and never more than 200Mbit once, and 60-100Mbit otherwise. No mmWave where I am .. so we say the same thing.
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Except that T-Mobile isn't implementing mmwave 5G, now or in the future. mmWave is only Verizon. And only Verizon's version of the S20 models has the radio and antennas for mmWave. (That's why the Verizon one has less memory - it needs many more antennas to make sure your fingers don't block the signal, and those antennas take up too much room.) So you will NEVER get mmWave 5G on your T-Mobile, Sprint, or unlocked S20. Even if you put a Verizon SIM in it.
T-Mobile's existing 5G is low band, and slow. They're migrating to Sprint's mid-band network which will be a lot faster than the existing network, but nowhere near Verizon's. But you'll be able to actually USE it, unlike Verizon's which will never exist outside of cities and major suburbs, and doesn't work worth ****e indoors unless you have a repeater.
mmWave is going to go down in history with WiMax as a bet on the wrong technology.
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Except that T-Mobile isn't implementing mmwave 5G, now or in the future. mmWave is only Verizon. And only Verizon's version of the S20 models has the radio and antennas for mmWave. (That's why the Verizon one has less memory - it needs many more antennas to make sure your fingers don't block the signal, and those antennas take up too much room.) So you will NEVER get mmWave 5G on your T-Mobile, Sprint, or unlocked S20. Even if you put a Verizon SIM in it.
T-Mobile's existing 5G is low band, and slow. They're migrating to Sprint's mid-band network which will be a lot faster than the existing network, but nowhere near Verizon's. But you'll be able to actually USE it, unlike Verizon's which will never exist outside of cities and major suburbs, and doesn't work worth ****e indoors unless you have a repeater.
mmWave is going to go down in history with WiMax as a bet on the wrong technology.
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Not sure where you heard all of that but it is incorrect. Tmobile is deploying mmWave and both the Tmobile and Sprint S20s will support it.
AT&T also uses mmWave and on the S20s as well.
https://www.t-mobile.com/content/da...ing-heroes/T-Mobile-5G-Factsheet-May-2020.pdf
S20 Ultra is the only one with mmwave afaik
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S20 Ultra is the only one with mmwave afaik
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The + has it as well. Verizon has a special version if the base S20 that supports it. But all the + and ultra versions support it no matter the carrier.
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The + has it as well. Verizon has a special version if the base S20 that supports it. But all the + and ultra versions support it no matter the carrier.
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Oh interesting, good to know.
I don't really care if I have it. Our LTE+ is roughly 200ish down and good coverage.
5G at this time is for the most part a marketing tool for manufacturers and service providers but lots of prospective users are buying into the hype. LTE is comparable in speed to low and midband 5G and in some cases even faster. Until mmWave is widely avaliable, which won't be anytime soon, 5G's biggest asset is it's marketing appeal. All hat, no cattle!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-google-pixel-6-5g-faster-speed_id137167
According to a report by AndroidPolice, U.S. mobile carrier T-mobile plans to bring even faster lightning 5G connection speeds to the Google Pixel 6 handset, with the arrival of next year.
The speed boost will come to both the Pixel 6 and the Pixel 6 Pro, and was actually first discovered by a fan of the publication who decided to check out the modem log of his own daily driver, the Pixel 6. Both members of the Pixel 6 series carry Samsung's in-house Exynos 5123b wireless connection modem, which was freshly released this year.
The modem log, which he has since submitted and is hosted on 4G/5G Bands & Combos, simply revealed the way that the modem handled both uplink and downlink traffic, employing various channels on multiple different bands of the spectrum. This is known as carrier aggregation, or CA, because use of the available resources is simply optimized to allow for a higher data rate per each cell.
The website 4G/5G Bands & Combos serves to list just such data, which is based on real logs from on-board smartphone modems—since a smartphone or modem maker will never actually tell you their supported combinations for 4G or 5G carrier aggregation as part of your device specs; they simply show you a 4G/5G support category number, and leave it at that.
The new log, when contrasted against the previous one from October, contains a new carrier aggregation combination for two of the 5G bands: n71 and n41. According to AndroidPolice's sleuthing, these are actually a direct match to two of T-Mobile's airwaves, 600 MHz and 2.5 GHZ. T-Mobile has apparently been testing carrier aggregation on these airwaves since 2020, and plans to send it live in 2022.
When T-Mobile finally turns on its 5G network carrier aggregation next year, the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro—which already feature millimeter wave 5G reception—will be all set to boost their wireless connection speeds to even higher limits than before.
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https://www.phonearena.com/news/t-mobile-google-pixel-6-5g-faster-speed_id137167
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It's already pretty fast.
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It's already pretty fast.
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
Fast enough already for me as well
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
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It just depends where you are at. Those speeds are at my home. I've seen speeds of over 800 Mbps in certain areas where I live, and speeds of about 200 Mbps in others. I've seen others, in different places (somewhere in the east coast) get over 1 Gbps.
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600 Mbps?! Jesus .... I'm lucky if I break 100 Mbps where I'm at.
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I'm lucky if I break 20Mbps. All of us people living in densely populated areas struggle with the speeds being slower than molasses sliding down a tree in the Arctic lol.
Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Wow- the best I have gotten is a little over 800Mbs
That's it.... Time to show you guys what's up. 25 Mbps... Beat that! Lol.
It would've been nice if these sites properly credited me for the modem logs.
*looking at XDA in particular*
I've also since proven that the NR-CA works at a live site on Long Island. One of the quickest turnarounds I've ever done for testing.
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Thought I'd just drop in and say I managed to get this speed today with my 6 Pro whilst stopped at the traffic lights in my CBD area (Telstra 5G network in Adelaide, South Australia).
Must have been a really good sweet spot as never seen those speeds before! (My previous record was 700-800Mbps at my workplace with my Oppo Find X2 Pro).
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Holy ****!!! I've only had my phone less than a week and I live in NYC but the fastest I've got was about 500Mbps, with an average of 200
I just tested my ip13 on tmo 5g UC 600-700dl 60up
They just upgraded the tower across the street where I live
My pixel 6 pro is with Big Red
given verizon is not that great at my house and tmo just upgraded.. may be time for "Keep and switch" promo over to tmobile.
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I just tested my ip13 on tmo 5g UC 600-700dl 60up
They just upgraded the tower across the street where I live
My pixel 6 pro is with Big Red
given verizon is not that great at my house and tmo just upgraded.. may be time for "Keep and switch" promo over to tmobile.
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Wise move! I switched years ago and have never looked back!
New highest speed for me! In the suburbs this time, not far from a tower.
I'm on T-Mobile and I constantly have signal issues
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I'm on T-Mobile and I constantly have signal issues
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Where at? Not to bad here in southern Nevada.
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Where at? Not to bad here in southern Ne
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I'm in Central PA
question: has anyone used their p6p from verizon on tmobile and have 5G UC work? I can seem to find a Real answer.
I have the EU version of P6P, the one without mmWave, anyway, not an issue, as mmWave is not supported by my carrier.
I have very good download speed, but upload is no more than 5-6 Mb/s.
Do you have any suggestion, please?
Likely expected behavior. Most mid-band 5G spectrum is TDD and allocated to favor downlink.
My Pixel 5 was significantly faster than my Pixel 6 Pro on 5G but even so i see 70 or 80Mbit uploads, that said i have also seen a 0.69Mbit 5G upload so it isnt always great.
It all depends on what is around you (tower wise) and which phone carrier you are using. Most people who use 5G don't see those lighting fast speeds that are often advertised. It'll presumably take a few more years before a larger chunk of us reach those speeds (due to new towers, new bands being activated and new phone modems being manufactured and utilized).